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Elenorah Inizia
Emporium Investments
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Posted - 2010.12.08 15:20:00 -
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Hello dear fellow podpilots of New Eden.
My name is Elenorah Inizia and I¦ve been a part of this community since 2005 with several characters. I¦ve been east, west, north & south experiencing most of what EVE is all about and it has been a great ride filled with memorable moments.
Emporium Investments is the beginning of a new chapter. No more PVP, diplomacy, mining etc etc. This time I¦m 100% dedicated to trading and a successful entrepeneurship.
I¦ve found a niche wich has proven to deliver some very nice revenues. I don¦t know wheter a more hardened businessmogul would consider my results satisfying but I got 100m ISK transformed into 1bn ISK in exactly one month.
Now I¦d like to do it all over again in a grander scale - together with you.
I invest 100m myself and I¦d like to invite 9 of you to do the same.
When the slots are filled and we got the 1bn inital capital the clock starts ticking. After exactly one month I will return the investment PLUS 8% of the profit.
I will without sweat double the initial capital so expect a 80m profit on your investment. Probably you will get a whole lot more.
You are welcome to participate by sending your investment of 100m isk to Elenorah Inizia. Please inform me if you prefer to have your name secluded. Multiple buyins are accepted. If the slots aren¦t filled in one week from now - the buyins are returned.
I¦m looking forward to your participation in this businessopportunity.
/Elenorah
1. Elenorah Inizia 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10.
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Sandrila
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Posted - 2010.12.08 15:26:00 -
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Reserve 200 mio Contact me ingame.
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Von Bonez
Caldari The Airborne Fleet
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Posted - 2010.12.08 15:55:00 -
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I'll take 3 |
Kira Jung
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Posted - 2010.12.08 16:07:00 -
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Took 2 instead of Sandrila. ISK send
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Punker Adagear
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Posted - 2010.12.08 16:15:00 -
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Reserve 2 have contacted you ingame ------------------------------------------------
Possible Northwest UK meet
Take a butchers and show some interest, |
Elenorah Inizia
Emporium Investments
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Posted - 2010.12.08 16:49:00 -
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Sandrila/Kira Jung: Isk recieved. 2 slots reserved.
Von Bonez: Mail sent.
Punker Adagear: Mail sent.
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2010.12.08 16:55:00 -
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I, too, would like to put 100million isk in the bin. Oh wait, hang on, no I mean I don't want to.
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Cash Equivalent
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Posted - 2010.12.08 17:21:00 -
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Mods and CSM for MD, can we please get a subforum, under the Marketplace, for investment opportunities and updates? These have no business in "Market Discussion" anymore. It's hard to sort the crap from the rare legitimate offering.
This is the 3rd sh!tty fake "Invest with meeee!" thread of the day. they leave MD nigh unreadable.
Thank you.
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Berikath
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Posted - 2010.12.08 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Elenorah Inizia Edited by: Elenorah Inizia on 08/12/2010 16:09:52 Hello dear fellow podpilots of New Eden.
My name is Elenorah Inizia and I¦ve been a part of this community since 2005 with several characters. I¦ve been east, west, north & south experiencing most of what EVE is all about and it has been a great ride filled with memorable moments.
Emporium Investments is the beginning of a new chapter. No more PVP, diplomacy, mining etc etc. This time I¦m 100% dedicated to trading and a successful entrepeneurship.
I¦ve found a niche wich has proven to deliver some very nice revenues. I don¦t know wheter a more hardened businessmogul would consider my results satisfying but I got 100m ISK transformed into 1bn ISK in exactly one month.
Now I¦d like to do it all over again in a grander scale - together with you.
I invest 100m myself and I¦d like to invite 9 of you to do the same.
When the slots are filled and we got the 1bn inital capital the clock starts ticking. After exactly one month I will return the investment PLUS 8% of the profit.
I will without sweat double the initial capital so expect a 80m profit on your investment. Probably you will get a whole lot more.
You are welcome to participate by sending your investment of 100m isk to Elenorah Inizia. Please inform me if you prefer to have your name secluded. Multiple buyins are accepted. If the slots aren¦t filled in one week from now - the buyins are returned.
I¦m looking forward to your participation in this businessopportunity.
/Elenorah
1. Elenorah Inizia 2. Kira Jung 3. Kira Jung 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10.
Quoted for preservation.
As to the actual response
Originally by: Elenorah Inizia
My name is Elenorah Inizia and I¦ve been a part of this community since 2005 with several characters. I¦ve been east, west, north & south...
...I¦ve found a niche wich has proven to deliver some very nice revenues... I got 100m ISK transformed into 1bn ISK in exactly one month...
...I invest 100m myself and I¦d like to invite 9 of you to do the same.
So, you've been in the game for 5 years. In 4 years, 11 months of that time, you managed to live in 0.0 in at least 4 different places, and yet you made a grand total of 100 million ISK to your name. You then took that 100 million ISK, traded with it, and turned it into 1 billion ISK.
Now, you want to put in.... 100 million of that 1 billion you have, get people give you another 900 million to bring yourself to a total of.... the same amount you currently have yourself... and pay people for the privilege of letting 900 million of your (claimed) ISK sit in your wallet doing nothing.
If this is real, rethink your business plan.
If this is a scam (which I find much more likely), rethink your supposed business plan to make sense and propose it (with a different character). *** Wish list for PI:
*One-click input routing *Copy product, inputs & outputs in factories *Launchpad upgrades: twice the space, twice the cost, half the hassle! |
Elenorah Inizia
Emporium Investments
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Posted - 2010.12.08 17:50:00 -
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Menarim: 1 slot reserved.
Punker: 2 slots reserved.
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Fleshbot
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Posted - 2010.12.08 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Berikath
If this is a scam (which I find much more likely), rethink your supposed business plan to make sense and propose it (with a different character).
It's getting to the point where the scams are so far from credible that I feel bad for the posters even trying.
Elenorah, I know TRYING to do something is hard work, and just having people give you things is easier, but you should at least make an effort of not making an effort.
Maybe this individual will inspire you.
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Elenorah Inizia
Emporium Investments
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Posted - 2010.12.08 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Elenorah Inizia on 08/12/2010 19:23:54 I guess I can clearify a few things.
First and foremost, I am swedish so english is not my native language. Please bear that in mind if some phrases seems peculiar.
Yes. I have been in EVE since june 2005. I took my first stumbling steps as a miner in Lonetrek but soon found out that looking into a rock in highsec was not my cup of tea. Then i went off to 0.0 and did the alliancewar-thing. First in Curse... and then pretty much all over the map. Late 2005 I got my second account with another pvp-character.
I am one of those players that think "It was better back in the days". The Big Blob Online pvp of today does not interest me. I prefer smallscale engagements and that is utterly rare today. Instead I wanted a rebirth. I wanted to feel the same excitement I did as a noob once again. The way to do it was to start all over and head for a whole different career. Pvp, mining, production, exploring, missioning, trading. The game is, as we all know, totally different depending on wich way we are heading.
As a salesmanager IRL I spend my days in front of the computer wich suits my market-pvp perfectly and I really enjoy this part of EVE wich I neglected the first years.
Now I have in my possession 2 pvpaccounts plus this one worth a considerable amount of isk. Some day perhaps I¦ll put the pvpchars up for sale.
It has never been my ambition to present to you an ultra-distinguished isk-machine with a cool name (preferrably with *BANK in it ) accompanied with a sparkling, trustworthy website. There have been so many "supersafe investments" turning out to be total scams so ofcourse newcomers will have a hard time and I respect you for being doubtful. If any of you who until now sent me isk would like to step off just tell me and I will be glad to return your isk immediately.
I am simple. This is for fun and I do not need any nberbusinessmodel of doom. I put in X amount of isk. In 30 days I make it grow to a much higher amount. Ofcourse I do not NEED any investors. I would be glad to do it all by myself and sure, I could "cheat" by transfer resources from the other accounts but that would lower the "funpart" of it.
If anyone would like to invest, you are welcome. It is a low amount of isk we are talking about and it would really satisfy me to after a months time return the initial investment along with a fat profit. A bit of a "I told you so"- kind of a feeling.
/Elenorah
[EDIT incomplete sentence removed]
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Kei Darker
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Posted - 2010.12.08 19:48:00 -
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I'd like to reserve 2 spots. Please contact me ingame.
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Elenorah Inizia
Emporium Investments
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Posted - 2010.12.08 20:31:00 -
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Punker: 1 slot removed
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Cournai
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Posted - 2010.12.08 21:26:00 -
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Are you accepting more investors or are you capping it at 10?
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Elenorah Inizia
Emporium Investments
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Posted - 2010.12.08 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cournai Are you accepting more investors or are you capping it at 10?
I cap this at 10. However if reservations are not covered with isk within 12 hours they are up for grabs and still we have a few not yet payed for.
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Elenorah Inizia
Emporium Investments
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Posted - 2010.12.08 21:56:00 -
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Punker: 100m recieved. Thankyou and welcome.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2010.12.08 23:34:00 -
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I would like to repeat the questions that Berikath asked, and which you did not answer.
Particularly, your business model is not rational. You claim to have made a billion isk, but you are only going back in with a hundred million of your own money [which you anyway say is enough to make a billion].
Also, your thread title is misleading. You are not asking for 100 million but 900 million. Your other accounts and posting history should also have been declared.
I'm surprised that anyone invested in this to be honest.
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Berikath
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Posted - 2010.12.09 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Liberty Eternal I would like to repeat the questions that Berikath asked, and which you did not answer.
Particularly, your business model is not rational. You claim to have made a billion isk, but you are only going back in with a hundred million of your own money [which you anyway say is enough to make a billion].
Also, your thread title is misleading. You are not asking for 100 million but 900 million. Your other accounts and posting history should also have been declared.
I'm surprised that anyone invested in this to be honest.
Lots of no-corp players who I've never seen before supposedly invested.
Now, I say supposedly because we have no independent verification that any money changed hands, much less that it changed hands from separate players (instead of just transferring to alts then back to main, making it look like 1 bil was given when it was just shuffled).
Given the plan and the number of random people who agreed to send several hundred million ISK, I am currently of the opinion that this is a more involved and longer-term scam than I initially expected. I kind of think he had a bunch of his alts "invest" in the project, and in a month he'll come back, have all his alts say he paid them back on time (maybe even with some EXTRA!!!), then try and use that to get ACTUAL other people to send him, say, 2 billion this time. *** Wish list for PI:
*One-click input routing *Copy product, inputs & outputs in factories *Launchpad upgrades: twice the space, twice the cost, half the hassle! |
Elenorah Inizia
Emporium Investments
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Posted - 2010.12.09 03:19:00 -
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Von Bonez: 300m recieved. Thank you for your investment and welcome.
To the couple of haters above. I understand that there is a way to twist everything. As long as I haven¦t posted a thousand insightful posts in this forum I will probably be regarded a scam.
Elenorah is over two years old with a snowwhite record. Why waste such a char to scam just 900mil? That would be stupid. I¦m quite fond of both Elenorah and Emporium Investments and would not want them soiled.
Elenorah is an isk-maker feeding other accounts where stuff tends to go *splat*. It¦s easy.
Yes, it is correct that it is very irrational to ask for 100m when my level is far above. I thought that since this is my first coop-project of this kind and I am unknown to this forum - it would be an easier investment. Look at how you react even at this lowlevel of business. That answers your question.
When the 30 days are over and I return the investment plus profit - I understand that you will regard this as a way to build positive reputation to make way for a bigger scam. In that case there is just no way to please you. Am I right?
Somewhere I need to start and this is it. I¦m looking forward to getting the two last slots payed so this project can have a liftoff.
I will report progress once a week in this thread and in mail.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2010.12.09 03:34:00 -
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Edited by: Liberty Eternal on 09/12/2010 03:38:25 I'm not being a hater EI, I asked you a few questions and you once again posted a long wall of text in which you didn't answer a single one of them, or even acknowledge the need to recognise and deal with them.
I'm calling you a scammer. Feel free to get an audit and prove me wrong.
Edit: For fairness, I will pay for your audit if you decide to get one.
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Kei Darker
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Posted - 2010.12.09 03:47:00 -
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ISK sent.
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Elenorah Inizia
Emporium Investments
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Posted - 2010.12.09 10:14:00 -
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Kei Darker: Isk recieved. Welcome aboard.
I¦m pleased to see all slots filled. Now we have our 1bn and can get this project running.
End date: 9 jan 11.
Reports will be given on a weekly basis.
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2010.12.09 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Elenorah Inizia I got 100m ISK transformed into 1bn ISK in exactly one month. [..]
I invest 100m myself
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I will [..] double the initial capital [..]
So what happened to those 900m you made in the first month? Did you "double them away"? lol
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2010.12.09 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Berikath I am currently of the opinion that this is a more involved and longer-term scam than I initially expected. I kind of think he had a bunch of his alts "invest" in the project
I'm pretty sure similar/the same stuff is going on for long in MD and this is just an attempt to find out on how dumb this can be possibly played in general.
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Berikath
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Posted - 2010.12.10 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Elenorah Inizia To the couple of haters above. I understand that there is a way to twist everything. As long as I haven¦t posted a thousand insightful posts in this forum I will probably be regarded a scam.
Elenorah is over two years old with a snowwhite record. Why waste such a char to scam just 900mil? That would be stupid. I¦m quite fond of both Elenorah and Emporium Investments and would not want them soiled.
Elenorah is an isk-maker feeding other accounts where stuff tends to go *splat*. It¦s easy.
Yes, it is correct that it is very irrational to ask for 100m when my level is far above. I thought that since this is my first coop-project of this kind and I am unknown to this forum - it would be an easier investment. Look at how you react even at this lowlevel of business. That answers your question.
There's your problem.
I'm not hating; really, I'm not. I'm saying that given the information you have provided so far, if you had the intent of running a legitimate business ad infinitum, your proposal IS irrational. Sure, people may be irrational frequently, but they still have reasons which make sense to them and they'll probably tell you them if you ask.
As I see it, the possibilities here are:
A. You are someone prone to acting irrationally with no rhyme or reason. I don't want to lend to you because you may do something irrational, waste my money, and then I don't get paid. B. You are actually acting rationally, but you do not want to share your reasons. If your reasons were ones that were good for investors (or even neutral to them), you being a rational person would share them to ease potential investors' doubts and get your money. Since you won't share them, I have to assume it is because your reasons run contrary to potential investors' interests, and the risk involved go way, way, way up. I don't like risk, so I don't want to invest with you.
If you want to shut me up, it's easy; just give good reasons why getting a loan is the rational thing to do in your situation which don't involve investors getting robbed. *** Wish list for PI:
*One-click input routing *Copy product, inputs & outputs in factories *Launchpad upgrades: twice the space, twice the cost, half the hassle! |
Kei Darker
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Posted - 2010.12.16 21:34:00 -
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How's that weekly report looking?
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Berikath
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Posted - 2010.12.17 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kei Darker How's that weekly report looking?
Now that it has rolled over so it is actually more than a week, I feel I can safely say this.
Here, I'll do the weekly report for ya:
"I am continuing to happily spend your ISK. Thanks for it, *insert sap's name here*.
Love, Your friendly neighborhood scammer"
*** [ SIG] ***
Wish list for PI:
*One-click input routing *Copy product, inputs & outputs in factories *Launchpad upgrades: twice the space, twice the cost, half the hassle! [ /sig ] |
Kei Darker
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Posted - 2010.12.17 17:17:00 -
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Meh, I suppose it's no worse than losing the same amount in one hand of EOH poker. Or winning it. Whatevs. Always worth a shot. I don't even see the point in scamming for so little.
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Corcyrus Endymion
Caldari Excessum Corporation Excessum Gaming
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Posted - 2010.12.17 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kei Darker Meh, I suppose it's no worse than losing the same amount in one hand of EOH poker. Or winning it. Whatevs. Always worth a shot. I don't even see the point in scamming for so little.
I'm afraid that it might have been just you sending some actual isk Kei. If that's the case, this scam attempt became that much more trivial.
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