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Arekuwa
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Posted - 2005.01.17 17:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Auronof
2-3 Billion? Are you out of your mind? They aren't worth nearly that.
Not my problem that you don't know how much your assets are worth. A little hint.. T2 BPOs are generally valued by how much profit they can generate such that it needs about 4-6 months of production to fund the BPO cost. Each of the most popular ceptor BPOs (Crow and Taranis) can easily generate 400-600 mil profit a month, if you spend a little time on production and sales. If I had the money (and time to spend on production), I'd buy a Taranis BP for 2 bil any day. 
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Rthor
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Posted - 2005.01.17 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Arekuwa
Originally by: Auronof
2-3 Billion? Are you out of your mind? They aren't worth nearly that.
Not my problem that you don't know how much your assets are worth. A little hint.. T2 BPOs are generally valued by how much profit they can generate such that it needs about 4-6 months of production to fund the BPO cost. Each of the most popular ceptor BPOs (Crow and Taranis) can easily generate 400-600 mil profit a month, if you spend a little time on production and sales. If I had the money (and time to spend on production), I'd buy a Taranis BP for 2 bil any day.
Please get off Auronoff. I am much more capitalistic than you and I can tell you that a print is worth whatever it was selling for at the time when it was sold. If you want to talk econ bring it on.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2005.01.17 18:28:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Feta Solamnia
what I have heard from a source I pretty much trust, is that geeklab as also engaged in a t2 bpo theft by exploiting trust.
Nothing substantiated, I'm just throwing a rumour in.
That's a really lame statement. Normal people check two sides of the story before stating something publicly that they did not even check if it were true. Really lame for a business person.
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Wicke
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Posted - 2005.01.17 21:31:00 -
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Although we often fight Geek Lab, I must admit that they are honorable for the most part. They also have good pvp skills and will fight fair fights and uneven odds fights.
Sig Broken but its uber. -.- |
Draconiss
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Posted - 2005.01.17 22:13:00 -
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WoW geeklab you start a silly war with a corp you have never had any bad encounters with,dont know anything about,have never talked to anybody in the corp, all because you dont like small butts.
Now you are airing dirty laundry in the forums,and are looking a little shady I dont know If you are a bunch of cool people or what(geeks ) maby but this war is completly assinine(bad spelling).
So why dont you just retract the dec and we can all go about our respective business...........
after all ET is a good corp no pirates no ore thieves just a bunch of people havin fun playin a game....give me an eve mail and we can yack a bit...
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The1
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Posted - 2005.01.17 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Draconiss
WoW geeklab you start a silly war with a corp you have never had any bad encounters with,dont know anything about,have never talked to anybody in the corp, all because you dont like small butts.
Now you are airing dirty laundry in the forums,and are looking a little shady I dont know If you are a bunch of cool people or what(geeks ) maby but this war is completly assinine(bad spelling).
So why dont you just retract the dec and we can all go about our respective business...........
after all ET is a good corp no pirates no ore thieves just a bunch of people havin fun playin a game....give me an eve mail and we can yack a bit...
Ahh....I think we were the ones attacked here pal. Auronof did what any reasonable person would do when slandered, defend themselves. If you think that makes us look shady, well, whatever. The war is on so deal with it. Maybe you will learn a few things. We got your stupid threat letter ingame which all but assured we will not retract.
One thing funny here though: DRAConiss -DRAC Dragong. Things that make you go...hummmm????
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2005.01.18 04:43:00 -
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empire grief wars are bad enough, i mean war decing a corp for no Role Play or In Game reason should be considered griefing. It isn't like your JQA wars which are based on interaction.
but to steal BPOs from your own members...lame. He certainly didn't take from you guys enough to cover that theft.
he was stupid to trust a pirate corp true, but that kind of low theft should have been beneath even you guys.
respect has now been replaced with disgust, go back to mining with ASS and CK.
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The1
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Posted - 2005.01.18 08:44:00 -
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Edited by: The1 on 18/01/2005 08:44:40
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
empire grief wars are bad enough, i mean war decing a corp for no Role Play or In Game reason should be considered griefing. It isn't like your JQA wars which are based on interaction.
but to steal BPOs from your own members...lame. He certainly didn't take from you guys enough to cover that theft.
he was stupid to trust a pirate corp true, but that kind of low theft should have been beneath even you guys.
respect has now been replaced with disgust, go back to mining with ASS and CK.
What part of you have no idea what you are talking about do you not understand? Auronof has only scratched the surface with the facts he presented. He has only said the things he has said to try and help people like you to remember there are two sides to every story.
Sadly, your post clearly demonstrates you have an agenda and thats expected. I would never expect you to be objective considering how many of you we have blown up. Think what you want to think, but I promise you are wrong.
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WHOSYADADDY
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Posted - 2005.01.19 03:53:00 -
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GeekLab is a Real good PVP corp. I will fight with them anytime.
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Powder
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Posted - 2005.01.19 07:50:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
empire grief wars are bad enough, i mean war decing a corp for no Role Play or In Game reason should be considered griefing. It isn't like your JQA wars which are based on interaction.
but to steal BPOs from your own members...lame. He certainly didn't take from you guys enough to cover that theft.
he was stupid to trust a pirate corp true, but that kind of low theft should have been beneath even you guys.
respect has now been replaced with disgust, go back to mining with ASS and CK.
they havnt always been "pirates" you know
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Saberhawk
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Posted - 2005.01.19 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
go back to mining with ASS and CK.
lol pwned 
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nomlasmit
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Posted - 2005.01.19 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Feta Solamnia
what I have heard from a source I pretty much trust, is that geeklab as also engaged in a t2 bpo theft by exploiting trust.
Nothing substantiated, I'm just throwing a rumour in.
I, from personal experience, can substantiate this claim. It wasn't t2 BPO's, but it could have been. In this case it was equipment. It was "theft by expoiting trust".
We have the evidence that it was geek as well and no, I'm not going to share it with a load of forum w***es!
Therefore, Feta, I agree with you and it is not a rumour! 100% guaranteed that they are theives through exploiting trust!
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The1
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Posted - 2005.01.19 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: nomlasmit
Originally by: Feta Solamnia
what I have heard from a source I pretty much trust, is that geeklab as also engaged in a t2 bpo theft by exploiting trust.
Nothing substantiated, I'm just throwing a rumour in.
I, from personal experience, can substantiate this claim. It wasn't t2 BPO's, but it could have been. In this case it was equipment. It was "theft by expoiting trust".
We have the evidence that it was geek as well and no, I'm not going to share it with a load of forum w***es!
Therefore, Feta, I agree with you and it is not a rumour! 100% guaranteed that they are theives through exploiting trust!
OMFG, so let me get this straight....
You can slander us on the forums, but you cant share the suposed evidence??  Because it does not exist. You people are worse than sad.
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The1
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Posted - 2005.01.19 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Saberhawk
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
go back to mining with ASS and CK.
lol pwned
How, exactly?
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Draconiss
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Posted - 2005.01.19 20:09:00 -
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The 1 have no Idea about any ingame threat letter ,Sure you just not making it up to justify this braindead war....and we will deal with the war just fine....as for the last part of your post still havent quite figured out WTF you were attenpting to say.
CU in space.
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Princess Sela
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Posted - 2005.01.19 20:28:00 -
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Seriously guys STOP!!!
LET THE THREAD DIE!!
If you have something to prove to eachother, do it in game, not like babies on a forum. Please
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Rthor
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Posted - 2005.01.19 22:18:00 -
[47]
Originally by: nomlasmit
I, from personal experience, can substantiate this claim. It wasn't t2 BPO's, but it could have been. In this case it was equipment. It was "theft by expoiting trust".
We have the evidence that it was geek as well and no, I'm not going to share it with a load of forum w***es!
Therefore, Feta, I agree with you and it is not a rumour! 100% guaranteed that they are theives through exploiting trust!
when was it, what was it, and who? eve mail me if you dont want to say on forums. or at least explain what you mean by "equipment theft through exploiting trust" because I just dont get it.
I used to be geeklab's director of logistics so I think that if you really know something then I would have some idea if it could be possible, whatever it is you are accusing geek of. And you are NORAD so maybe you should disclose that along with your allegations at least.
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2005.01.19 22:31:00 -
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If I produce witness, and prove to be right, will that ceptor be returned?
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2005.01.19 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Feta Solamnia on 19/01/2005 22:57:18
Edited by: Feta Solamnia on 19/01/2005 22:50:16
on the other hand, I did go over the line.
hell, I didn't even remember if I ever posted this reply untill I saw it in my characters post list. Alcohol does do strange things to me.
But I have commited myself on this now, and will make a formal apology if I fail to produce evidence.
Gimme a day or two.
EDIT: I just saw Auronofs reply.
Yes I AM referring to drac. He left the print in your hands and for one reason or the other you decided to keep maybe one of the most valuable prints in the t2 production.
I do consider such a move trason, for whatever the reasons that may be, and I have refrained from ever dealing with Geeklab since then (before that I was suppying you components).
I do not care what the inter-corp problems were, all corps have many. But that was dead-wrong imho.
On the other hand yes, I did not have much reason to interfere in this apart from editing my standings.
I do apologise for bringing this up at the wrong moment, and in a wrong form that was slanderous. I had no reason to.
On the other hand, I should not apologise for wrongly accusing Geeklab, since Auronof pretty much substantiates my call.
I will give this thread more consideration tommorow, since I've been drinking again
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Rthor
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Posted - 2005.01.19 22:56:00 -
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If I am not mistaken the ceptor print is owned by the corporation for which the ceptor researcher was selling BS prints while not telling geek about it and keeping all the dough, even though that corporation thought that the money was going to help geek, and it was at that time substantial amount of money and it was going on for a while.
While this is not very smooth business I think that in the end the researcher was getting that dough from that corporation for free in the beginning via free blueprint copies, and that was money to support a corporate war against NORAD, and right now that corporation that was giving him free BS BPCs is benefiting from the print which it got for a good price from geek so I think that maybe it is rough justice but maybe it is poetic justice. He can always ask that corporation for the print back if he can convince them.
Also he gave the print to the corporation and we took in his corporation which frankly was comprised of people who drained geek and left after getting into battleships thanks to our mining ops and corporate resources. I gave things to corporation also. We all do when we play this game. I am not sure if that means that I could ask for things from them even if I wanted to do that, it just does not seem righ to do that. But I think that I can confirm that he gave it and he did not get it back. Having said that, while I was director of logistics I always had to weigh whether it was benefit enough to have the researcher of the print and the print in our copr or whether to kick him with the print, which is not a good thing for corporate morale. I chose to leave geek instead and challenged him to produce ships from that print himself, and the corp soon after kicked the researcher and kept the print, which probably means that he did not do much production. So for him to be made whole by getting the print now, hmm I am not sure if that would be justice. He did a lot of damage to geek and he did give it to geek so I dont see how it was stolen in the first place.
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Auronof
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Posted - 2005.01.20 03:24:00 -
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We miss you R  . But I think I understand why you left .
Nomlasmit - You're who's alt again? Shivaja? Equipment from you? I don't remember you outside of Norad...uh...was the misplaced trust getting within warp scramble range of me? and the theft me blowing your sorry butt out of your ship and taking something? Dood...really....How can a member of an alliance we have been against since it's inception have trusted us with something?
Which one of these ships that we blew up had said equipment?
Saturday, February 21, 2003:
Kestrel
Tuesday, March 2, 2003:
Kestrel
Merlin
Thursday, March 4, 2003:
Merlin
Saturday, March 13, 2003:
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Rthor
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Posted - 2005.01.20 03:38:00 -
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Stop making up dates Bill.
I think that you are on the right path now though. I miss you too.
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Auronof
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Posted - 2005.01.20 03:41:00 -
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Edited by: Auronof on 20/01/2005 03:47:08
I'm not making up dates:
Tuesday, March 2, 2003:
Our Losses:
1 x Merlin(Hungry *****) - Ttam
1 x Rifter - Freyett
Their Losses:
1 x Mammoth - Boogaloo
1 x Armageddon - Kaba Tron
3 x Kestrel - Nomlasmit, EvilWezal, Serra Nex
2 x Blackbird - Dark Reaktor, Kanaan
1 x Merlin - Nomlasmit
You must remember that list...the one I made as we went to keep track of how we were doing? Your login for the geeklab forums should still be active if you think I'm faking those...you can see that I haven't edited the posts since over a year ago. |
lordgod denny
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Posted - 2005.01.20 03:46:00 -
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auronof was most likely jokeing when he started the war over love of small butts. However when said CEO of said corp sends stupid email to Us then we will most likely make good on the war. Your lucky right now as we are Busy in noncivlized space. when we make are way to empire we will kill you. If you doubt this now use a agent to figure out where our members are and come get us. It saves us alot of hassle. If you would like to save yourselves some hassle our CEO would probley retract if he were allowed to duel your CEO with both parties in agreement not to run away. Just a suggestion.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2005.01.20 03:47:00 -
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game did not go retail until may 2003 you old fool
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Auronof
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Posted - 2005.01.20 03:49:00 -
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Edited by: Auronof on 20/01/2005 03:52:11
Edited by: Auronof on 20/01/2005 03:51:18
½ Reply #20 on: Mar 2nd, 2004, 10:21am + Quote Modify Remove
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Monday, March 1, 2003:
Our Losses:
1 x Blackbird - Swaffer
1 x Merlin - Freyett
Their Losses:
3 x Mammoth - 3 x Desmodus
1 x Industrial - Anquilus
1 x Caracal - EvilWezal
1 x Scorpion - Powder
HAHAHA...So yeah...all of my dates on that were a year off  ...funny we don't notice that until now...
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Powder
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Posted - 2005.01.20 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Auronof
Edited by: Auronof on 20/01/2005 03:52:11
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Monday, March 1, 2003:
1 x Scorpion - Powder
wow thats a blast from the past
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nomlasmit
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Posted - 2005.01.20 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: nomlasmit on 20/01/2005 15:15:17
Originally by: Rthor
Stop making up dates Bill.
Hehe. Pirate Bill . Sounds good that!
Rthor - The evidence you require is confidential, and I'm pretty certain that Geek wouldn't admit to it anyhow so there's no point in continuing. My corp knows what happened and someone in Geek knows what they did, so I'll leave it at that. If your desperate to know, eve mail me.
Auro - blowing me up (as you have done on a number of times) is not theft, its what happens in warfare. Funny, thought you knew that! Anywho, I'm not Shivaja's alt either. Nor am I posting to try and put a dent in anyone's over blown egos or trying to prove my abilities on the warfield or trying to prove how much a man I am. gggrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
Thats enough smack from me.
Have fun kids. Night night.
editted - Thanks Mal, with the benefit of hindsight - the1 statement retracted as it does sound crap.
Thats enough from me. Don't want to get involved in handbags at 10 paces!
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Malificus
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Posted - 2005.01.20 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: nomlasmit
Originally by: Rthor
Stop making up dates Bill.
The1 - your not are you really. The Zero maybe!
Thats enough smack from me.
Have fun kids. Night night.
*Holds up a small paper* And the award for the most unfunny comment made in this forum goes to:...Nomlasmit! Come on man, take a bow!
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MrMorph
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Posted - 2005.01.20 15:20:00 -
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They eat children, and drink Quafe Light.
They r bad bad guys 
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Trishys cookies they are !
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