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StalinGrad6
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.13 12:30:00 -
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War. Always a horrible thing. To some, a source of income. To others, a Chance for retribution. To most-a chance for revenge.
To anyone, war has always been a questionable way of life. Industrialists make a fortune off the fighters by making and selling ammunitin and weapons. The fighters prosper by looting and collecting the corpses and remains of thier victims.
And yet.... With all this around us.... In all my years in EvE ive NEVER seen any form of..... how shall I say, Retribution, for the VICTIMS. I ould like to formally request the total number of those abducted or killed due to the actions of Sanshas Nation, and a formal manifest containing the details of those lost, so i may contact thier families and hold memorial services to honour thier loss.
Hopefully, we can forgive ourselves for failing to defend these people. Also, we can remember the ones we lost, the ones whose lives were cut short. Once i have this manifest, I will be moving through Empire Space Collecting Epitaphs, letters and returning personal effects that i find to the families of the lost ones.
These people will never be forgotten. War has changed. But the memory of loss, never will. My Memorial services will begin in 20 days. I will be flying to various systems and stations and anyone who wishes to join my crusade, is more than welcome to join me.
I hope, my message has sunk in.
Peace out ******************** A Question: If a Soldier is too scared to fight, how many people will he kill? The Answer: NONE. The Piont: Psychological Warfare. More powerful that a 3500mm cannon. |

Ber Kan
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.13 15:09:00 -
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I will join you. For the loss of my parents, friends, family, soldiers, and those that I promised to protect.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.13 15:17:00 -
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-Mystral Callibri
-Jasmine Sho
...lost to the brutality of Nation, but not forgotten.
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Raze Valadeus
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.12.13 15:50:00 -
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Hm, this is refreshing to see.
I will do what I am able to assist in this memorial. Though I've lost no one personal to me, my heart and prayers go out to those who have.
- Let us never forget those who have gone before us and in remembering, grant them immortality.
--------------- ~Raze Valadeus |

Lando Storm
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Posted - 2010.12.13 20:05:00 -
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I will join you as well.
Tala and Pacto how i miss you.
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Catlos JeminJees
Gallente Nebraska Mining Consortium Silver Twilight Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.12.13 20:15:00 -
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I remember my wife and son every time i go into battle.. I remember with every dead Sansha.
But i never stoped to think of the others that have been lost.
I will join you in this also. >Security Officer< -Nebraska Mining Consortium- |

Calathea Sata
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Posted - 2010.12.13 22:06:00 -
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FYIO Quote: 11/12/112, after Kubinen Kshatriya Sebtin > Is there a running total on how many have been "uplifted" since the incursions started? Haeldone Dorgiers > Perhaps as many as 20 million.
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Alexis Du'Volle
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Posted - 2010.12.13 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: StalinGrad6
And yet.... With all this around us.... In all my years in EvE ive NEVER seen any form of..... how shall I say, Retribution, for the VICTIMS. I ould like to formally request the total number of those abducted or killed due to the actions of Sanshas Nation, and a formal manifest containing the details of those lost, so i may contact thier families and hold memorial services to honour thier loss.
And no doubt many of them are now available in the form of Quafe Ultra.
What goes around comes around I suppose.
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Casiella Truza
Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2010.12.14 04:52:00 -
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Hey, so what about the victims of all the other wars? I mean, do victims (including families) hurt less because their loved ones were killed by the Empire or the Republic or Federation or State?
Maybe the problem isn't Nation. Maybe the problem is the corrupt notion of nationalism.
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StalinGrad6
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.14 05:05:00 -
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Perhaps you misread. I said that this was a memorial, to remember ALL those lost.
19 Days till the Fleet is operational and im planning for a full visit to all the Empires and as many systems as possible.
Join Channel Memorial Fleet to join this occasion and recieve updates and suggestions.
I dont expect a fleet larger than 7 pilots.
Prove me wrong. ******************** A Question: If a Soldier is too scared to fight, how many people will he kill? The Answer: NONE. The Piont: Psychological Warfare. More powerful that a 3500mm cannon. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Sigma Special Tactics Group Fleet Coordination Coalition
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Posted - 2010.12.14 05:56:00 -
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My ship went down fighting Sansha last night. It took 11 seconds. I lost an entire battle cruiser crew.
Every one of them had a family.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.14 07:50:00 -
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But no one has died; there is no death in Nation.
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Crazey Monkey
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Posted - 2010.12.14 08:51:00 -
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I give my full support, even though I give support to the families that lose there love ones that do not make it off my failing ships. I will still send you their names.
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Syfa
Caldari Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.12.14 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rek Jaiga But no one has died; there is no death in Nation.
Who they were died the moment they were turned into toasters - objects, things less than people. What you're saying is similar to saying that a proud citizen of the Minmatar captured and forcibly addicted to vitoc by an Amarr slaveholder (or any other slaver) doesn't kill what the individual was, that it doesn't break their spirit and change them irrevocably... and that it's not done against their will.
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Raze Valadeus
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.12.14 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Casiella Truza Hey, so what about the victims of all the other wars? I mean, do victims (including families) hurt less because their loved ones were killed by the Empire or the Republic or Federation or State?
Then better to start now than never, wouldn't you agree?
And to the ignorant fool who claims there is no death in Nation, you are either blinded by overpowering ignorance (which would be preferable) or you're a blithering lackey who decides to spout nonsense as if it were some profound truth. Allow me to spell it out for you:
Minds are enslaved, the individual dies. Ships are destroyed, the crew dies.
Wake up or do us all a favor and shut up.
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StalinGrad6
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.14 12:14:00 -
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the service will go ahead as planned, im making arrangements with various families and officers to allow my safe passage through empire.
and to the Sansha morons posting here:
shut up. your mindless drivel means nothing to the dead. either shut up, or get a life. if youre not going to say something useful such as the names of those YOU stole from us-dont say a damn word.
now, with that aside, im hoping that this service will be well recieved (or at least noticed) and that the families of those lost will get some form of relief that those they lost are in a better place. ******************** A Question: If a Soldier is too scared to fight, how many people will he kill? The Answer: NONE. The Piont: Psychological Warfare. More powerful that a 3500mm cannon. |

Niraia
Gallente Starcakes ISK Six
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Posted - 2010.12.14 13:00:00 -
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Will there be photographers? -
eohpoker.com sanshasnation.net
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Festus Planewalker
Amarr G1G5 Mining Refining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.12.14 13:32:00 -
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My crew will be in full dress uniform upon your passage through Amarr space, may god watch over and protect your memorial procession.
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Xaria Silverhammer
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Posted - 2010.12.14 13:39:00 -
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Oops, used the wrong button, so here my post:
I lost many of my ships thanks to pirates and their sense of 'humor', finally something is done although I keep being poor since i keep buying new ships and fitting thats to these... 'people' who think they are funny (to put it very nicely). I recently placed a email with the GM's hoping to get attention for this problem since it can cause people to loose interrest in the game and leave, which means less people online for our corperations, but also less money for them. Which eventually will result in the dead of EVE Online.
I want my latest ship back and the GM's refuse although it's a fair request, they should have fixed these 'holes' a long time ago. I even got trapped in a station for hours which is NOT part of the game, which means making someone a prisoner/slave, which is highly illigal, plus trying to blackmail me, trying to make me their miner in low sec and needing to give them the most of the earnings (which is slavery as well)
So yeah i'm pretty angry to say the least, ill join in! This needs to be corrected! I want my lost ships back and the pirates punished!
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.12.14 13:50:00 -
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Are you on drugs?
Space-drugs?
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StalinGrad6
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.14 13:53:00 -
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((this is an RP forum dude. sry i forgot to tell you earlier but this thing is an RP a role play thing.))
as for photographers-because i work for the scope-you automatically think that im gonna publicize the screams and crying of people from over the entire galaxy? pfft.
i dO NOT work for the scop or ANY of thier journalistic idiocies. i have my own corporation but due to a war, im taking asylum in the Scope until the war is over.
you can come with and take pjotos or record videos, if you want, but stay out of my way because i will probably kill you if you spit on my good intentions one more time, like youve been doing at every turn of late. ******************** A Question: If a Soldier is too scared to fight, how many people will he kill? The Answer: NONE. The Piont: Psychological Warfare. More powerful that a 3500mm cannon. |

Niraia
Gallente Starcakes ISK Six
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Posted - 2010.12.14 14:16:00 -
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So you're a pathetic coward. Got it! -
eohpoker.com sanshasnation.net
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StalinGrad6
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.14 14:27:00 -
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for your information you stupid Sansha scumsucking pig, i killed 2 of your kind by myself just after i left.
coward? the fact youre sitting there shouting at me instead of doing something is more of a reinforcement that YOU are a coward.
enough of this bull****. if youre not joining in, i request you shut the **** up and leave me to my business.
good day. ******************** A Question: If a Soldier is too scared to fight, how many people will he kill? The Answer: NONE. The Piont: Psychological Warfare. More powerful that a 3500mm cannon. |

Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.14 15:11:00 -
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StalinGrad...if you think it appropriate, the 21st will offer you one of our banners (which bears the names of our lost back to the beginings of the 21st) to carry in your fleet in memory of them....the last name added so far is that of Jasmine Sho.
Let us know when you are enroute to our area of operations.
Regards,
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Nick Bete
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Posted - 2010.12.14 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Niraia So you're a pathetic coward. Got it!
Ignore this sad little provocateur. She's worth about as much as that pathetic excuse of an alliance of hers; six isk and that's being charitable. |

External Factors
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Posted - 2010.12.14 19:57:00 -
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They are just humans. Who cares if they live or die.
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Casiella Truza
Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2010.12.14 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Raze Valadeus
Originally by: Casiella Truza Hey, so what about the victims of all the other wars? I mean, do victims (including families) hurt less because their loved ones were killed by the Empire or the Republic or Federation or State?
Then better to start now than never, wouldn't you agree?
Absolutely, Razey. My point is that the original post referred specifically to victims of the recent incursions by Nation. I'm glad to see a clarification that it applies to more types of conflict, though.
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Ber Kan
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.14 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Syn Callibri StalinGrad...if you think it appropriate, the 21st will offer you one of our banners (which bears the names of our lost back to the beginings of the 21st) to carry in your fleet in memory of them....the last name added so far is that of Jasmine Sho.
Let us know when you are enroute to our area of operations.
Regards,
If it is anyworth, I can hunt down and see about other units that have lost troops. And see if we can get their banners as well.
This way, All those who lost their troops, and their pilots, and their families, will be known.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.15 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: StalinGrad6
and to the Sansha morons posting here:
shut up. your mindless drivel means nothing to the dead. either shut up, or get a life. if youre not going to say something useful such as the names of those YOU stole from us-dont say a damn word.
It's good to see a starship captain who is in control of many countless lives other than his own has the maturity level of around a secondary school student.
Before throwing around words and phrases such as "morons" and "get a life", please realize who you're dealing with.
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StalinGrad6
Gallente Black Mesa Mavericks
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Posted - 2010.12.15 14:25:00 -
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Rek, your apparent lack of morals will be ignored.
the memorial will go ahead on schedule and will begin in Caldari Space, moving to Gallentean space, then Amarr, Minmatar and finally Khanid space.
The trek will be around 30 to 40 systems and Small Secure Containers, each one will have a Pax Amarria, a Written Letter of Apology and a datalog containing a list of those lost.
join my channel "Memorial Fleet" so i can arrange the necessary fleet operations. ******************** A Question: If a Soldier is too scared to fight, how many people will he kill? The Answer: NONE. The Piont: Psychological Warfare. More powerful that a 3500mm cannon. |

Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.16 02:09:00 -
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Edited by: Rek Jaiga on 16/12/2010 02:08:49
Originally by: StalinGrad6 Rek, your apparent lack of morals will be ignored.
I do not lack morals. I simply have different morals. There's a difference; see also: moral relativism.
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StalinGrad6
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.16 13:43:00 -
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the date has been set. i will be making the arrangements for the fleet within the next week. ******************** A Question: If a Soldier is too scared to fight, how many people will he kill? The Answer: NONE. The Piont: Psychological Warfare. More powerful that a 3500mm cannon. |

Niraia
Gallente Starcakes ISK Six
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Posted - 2010.12.16 14:42:00 -
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See you there guys, looking forward to it! -
eohpoker.com sanshasnation.net
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.16 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Niraia See you there guys, looking forward to it!
Great minds think alike; I'll be there too!
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StalinGrad6
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.16 18:10:00 -
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due to terrorist actions, the memorial has been delayed a few days.
i will update when i can. ******************** A Question: If a Soldier is too scared to fight, how many people will he kill? The Answer: NONE. The Piont: Psychological Warfare. More powerful that a 3500mm cannon. |

Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.16 23:10:00 -
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Wow, I didn't even have to blow anything up!
Was it you, comrade Niraia?
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StalinGrad6
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.20 07:05:00 -
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Memorial set to 5th January.
Join my channel "memorial fleet" to find the exact location and time of the fleet.
NO fleet members will be accepted without my approval through this channel.
Loyalists and terrorists WILL be removed from this channel. ******************** A Question: If a Soldier is too scared to fight, how many people will he kill? The Answer: NONE. The Piont: Psychological Warfare. More powerful that a 3500mm cannon. |

Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.20 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: StalinGrad6
Loyalists and terrorists WILL be removed from this channel.
Heh, I did give away my intentions when I strolled into your channel, didn't I?
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StalinGrad6
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.20 07:48:00 -
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no s**t sherlock
you arent welcome.
provide me with a list of names of those your "master" has killed....
then, MAYBE.... i'll consider possibly allowing you back in. ******************** A Question: If a Soldier is too scared to fight, how many people will he kill? The Answer: NONE. The Piont: Psychological Warfare. More powerful that a 3500mm cannon. |

Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.20 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: StalinGrad6 no s**t sherlock
you arent welcome.
provide me with a list of names of those your "master" has killed....
then, MAYBE.... i'll consider possibly allowing you back in.
But they've not been killed. There's no death in Nation.
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StalinGrad6
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.20 08:22:00 -
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im not in the mood for quoting people so i'll just say this:
BULLS**T if i ever heard it.
stay away, stay out, stay gone. ******************** A Question: If a Soldier is too scared to fight, how many people will he kill? The Answer: NONE. The Piont: Psychological Warfare. More powerful that a 3500mm cannon. |

Lucius Vindictus
Amarr East Khanid Trading
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Posted - 2010.12.20 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: StalinGrad6 stay away, stay out, stay gone.
I'm starting so see a pattern here. Just a friendly piece of advice since you seem to be slow to catch on:
This doesn't work the way you think. If you open several topics on the IGS on a regular basis, people are going to start probing that little wormhole of yours to see what the fuss is about. If on top of that you roll onto your back at the first mention of violence someone will wedge something in there just to hear you squeal, which you always do. New Eden isn't the paradise the name suggests, poppet. Getting onto your soapbox may have worked on the crystal boulevard, but it will get you in trouble here. People expect a little more substance from a self stated space pimp, you know. At this rate you are going to end up in someone's slave pen soon.
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StalinGrad6
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.20 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lucius Vindictus Edited by: Lucius Vindictus on 20/12/2010 14:05:47
Originally by: StalinGrad6 stay away
I'm starting so see a pattern here. Just a friendly piece of advice since you seem to be slow to catch on:
This doesn't work the way you think. If you open several topics on the IGS on a regular basis, people are going to start probing that little wormhole of yours to see what the fuss is about. Then they will proceed to wedge something the size of a cruiser inside when your response is to roll right onto your back at the first mention of violence. There are some very bored people out there who's hobbies include genocide on a galactic scale and who will brighten their day just by making you squeal, which doesn't seem like a hard thing to accomplish.
you know something...
people like you, Lucius, remind me of how ashamed i am, of the fact i am a human being.
im not a barbarian, like you, which is why i prefer to avoid conflict at any cost, NOT because i dont have the resources or lack of morals to fight with. say what you wish, but id prefer you left these comments to yourself or post them on another thread of your own.
this is a message to remind us of what vicious beasts we have become, a message to remind us of the dead and what THEY did to put us where we are.
this is not a place to flex our muscles, i kindly request you do so elsewhere. im no coward, im a human being and im ashamed of those around me and of whom ive become because of the words of others.
if you think honoring the dead is not a worthy cause, i beg of you to either go away or join my fleet, to honour the dead. your words are harsh, but despite this, i do not believe you are the man you seem to be. you have a lot of talk. show your merit and show that you actually have a soul, and come and pay your respects to the dead.
for now however, ive had enough of this smacktalk and i will no longer respond or read your loathful messages and hateful spite. quite frankly im sick of it. i have more on my mind, but im keeping it to myself.
i shall say no more until until i need to.
good day Sir. ******************** A Question: If a Soldier is too scared to fight, how many people will he kill? The Answer: NONE. The Piont: Psychological Warfare. More powerful that a 3500mm cannon. |

StalinGrad6
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.20 15:31:00 -
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Fleet will Assemble in Alikara System in Caldari space and will take a trade route to the core worlds of each empire.
if you want information, join the channel. ******************** A Question: If a Soldier is too scared to fight, how many people will he kill? The Answer: NONE. The Piont: Psychological Warfare. More powerful that a 3500mm cannon. |

Lucius Vindictus
Amarr East Khanid Trading
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Posted - 2010.12.20 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: StalinGrad6 wathing others kill eachother, is entertainment.
Originally by: StalinGrad6 how ashamed i am, of the fact i am a human being.
Don't be too ashamed now. Men do what men do. With that I'll let you return to your soapbox.
And a good day to you too, sir.
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