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Utremi Fasolasi
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.16 03:08:00 -
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According to Chribba if you reprocess them twice, one of the components is a Sansha decoder that is.. a living head in a jar. 
If you were wondering what the Sansha needed all those civilians for...
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Boma Airaken
White Song
Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2010.12.16 03:13:00 -
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This surprises you? That human components go into their vile machinations? They are monsters, from top to bottom with no exceptions.
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Utremi Fasolasi
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.16 03:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Boma Airaken
This surprises you? That human components go into their vile machinations? They are monsters, from top to bottom with no exceptions.
Well what is odd is that CONCORD got hold of them and distributed them out to all capsuleers, did they know what they were made of? Does this make CONCORD monsters too?
For all anyone knows, one's distant relatives or anyone could be plugged into their new ship. I find this.... distasteful. |
Boma Airaken
White Song
Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2010.12.16 03:24:00 -
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CONCORD has been just as much of a scourge from the day the first drop of ink hit the toilet paper their charter was drawn up on. Should be obvious by now.
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Jaik7
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Posted - 2010.12.16 03:38:00 -
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So long as they are a scourge in my favor, I like them.
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Vendrin
Caldari
Stimulus
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Posted - 2010.12.16 04:05:00 -
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The people are already dead, what does it matter if a few of their neurons that still fire can be useful to us?
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Marenteius
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.16 04:35:00 -
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While the presence of Human heads is quite disturbing, i think we should look on the brightside...
At least the heads aren't animated in any way...
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.16 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Marenteius
While the presence of Human heads is quite disturbing, i think we should look on the brightside...
At least the heads aren't animated in any way...
"It is, however, difficult to ignore the fact that it's also a head in a jar - particularly when it opens its eyes briefly, looks around, and frowns."
Straight from the NeoCom description.
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Marenteius
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.16 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Rek Jaiga
"It is, however, difficult to ignore the fact that it's also a head in a jar - particularly when it opens its eyes briefly, looks around, and frowns."
Straight from the NeoCom description.
Eh... heh, well, i'll admit that i havn't tried the whole getting a head in a jar thing myself, so i was unaware of that little tidbit of information. My mistake.
My revised anyalasis is that we should instead look on the brightside because we so far have no indications of these disembodied heads having any ability to influence the minds of those around them, with the exception of a slight feeling of discomfort from seeing a disembodied head open its eyes and frown. Though, i have to say that i hope that those heads aren't hooked up to Sansha's networks in any way... if they are, then he could have his people watching us even through the eyes of the bodyless...
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What do you want?
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.16 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Marenteius
[Though, i have to say that i hope that those heads aren't hooked up to Sansha's networks in any way... if they are, then he could have his people watching us even through the eyes of the bodyless...
*grins a bit*
But wouldn't that be ironic? A device handed out by CONCORD, containing parts that themselves potentially undermine CONCORD's operations?
Master is a very intelligent man indeed!
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Alain Colcer
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.16 14:06:00 -
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The moment station crews informed me of a package delivery coming from CONCORD, i was suspicious. When i proceeded to check and accept the transaction, realizing it was a ship, inmediately gave the order to move it to a special containment facility with no connection whatsoever to FTL services or my personal network.
If Sansha can hack the CONCORD grid, it would be unwise to use their technology, specially one to counter-hack the Sansha encryption methods.
Personally i just sealed the damn thing and placed detonation charges in case anyone attemps to undock without my authorization, but what you mention is even more disturbing.
That CONCORD chose to deliver the heads of former defeated Sansha agents rises even more the risk of any computer and communication services to be compromised.
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Jaik7
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Posted - 2010.12.16 14:08:00 -
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Rek, admit it, if that happened, it would be a total accident. Your Master doesent seem to be good enough at long term planning to offer the most powerful faction (us) decent rewards for following him, he won't be good enough at long term planning to seed these codebreakers through the galaxy so that they can be used in an external equipment slot with no access to comson a superspecialized ship that nobody will ever fly in anything but a cleanup operation.
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GIGAR
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.16 15:32:00 -
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... Yet the fact that practically every single capsule pilot walks around in someone's dead body doesn't seem to mind anyone.
Besides, it's not Sansha that's using these "decoders", it's pod pilots. (Unless you count living Sansha)
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.17 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jaik7
Rek, admit it, if that happened, it would be a total accident. Your Master doesent seem to be good enough at long term planning to offer the most powerful faction (us) decent rewards for following him, he won't be good enough at long term planning to seed these codebreakers through the galaxy so that they can be used in an external equipment slot with no access to comson a superspecialized ship that nobody will ever fly in anything but a cleanup operation.
Master Kuvakei has nothing to offer those who side with Nation? I guess you haven't heard of the infamous Slave Set implants; many capsuleers in nullsec alliances who fly supercapital ships pay fortunes for them.
And wouldn't you like to own a Nightmare-class battleship, if you could?
Master is quite adept at planning for the long-term; he planned ahead for his own supposed death, didn't he?
But these are material rewards, which pale in comparison to the non-material rewards.
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar
Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2010.12.18 15:24:00 -
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If people are dead, I see no fuzz in reanimating their dead parts as cheap replacement for robotics, which were, as you all well know, skyrocketing in prices the moment the production was left for capsuleers.
What is dead is dead. And even if I can make a robotic head raise an eyebrow there is no brain left that is representing the feeling of it. This is the reason why I deliver Wildfire Recyclobotics with masks and not with faces. To give the user the distance they have to keep from the product. It's just a robot, not a human. Dead is dead. Wasting valuable and highly developed bodyparts is a decadence we can only leave to the riches. The poor can't afford it if they want to be able to compete.
Anyway, my parts decay after a few months and cease function. Which is why there is no guarantee on them. But they are cheap.
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FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Doctor Carbonatite
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Posted - 2010.12.19 01:28:00 -
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This is one of the most uncouth things CONCORD has ever done. These are in fact living True Slaves (the rest of their bodies are temporarily irrelevant to their tasks) who have been deprived of purpose and contact with Nation. Their distribution to capsuleers by CONCORD is a grievous desecration and amounts to nothing short of torture. If you have any compassion, I beseech you all to collect these modules and return then to Master Kuvakei in Stain, that he may alleviate the suffering of these True Slaves that CONCORD has endorsed and that all of you abet by "owning" this hardware. |
Rek Jaiga
Minmatar
Crimson Path
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Posted - 2010.12.19 01:47:00 -
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I must agree with Doctor Carbonatite. True Slaves enjoy working for Nation and being Integrated. Being ripped from their duties and comrades as they have been by CONCORD's distribution of these modules must surely be distressing to the True Slaves involved.
It's been said that if one could experience things through another individual's mind they would become enlightened; I believe this happens in Integration. To be de-Integrated is...horror.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
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Posted - 2010.12.20 12:14:00 -
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All the more reasons to stay far away from Sansha tech if you ask me. Not really surprised CONCORD didn't bother to check on this.
Diary of a Pod Pilot |
Chell Charon
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Posted - 2010.12.20 13:59:00 -
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"True slaves are an abomination with death as the only mercy available to them!"
"All slavery should be abolished!"
"True program is even more horrific than the Amarrian practice!"
Apparently only when the Nation does it? At least Nation has a better excuse than their profit margin.
Pathetic.
People are crying about some novelists publicity stunt while happily using and trading with technology they claim abhorrent.
If you will excuse me, I will go retch from the decaying stench of hypocrites here.
Charon.
I really thought IGS had immunized me already..
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Hephaestus nu
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Posted - 2010.12.20 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Utremi Fasolasi
According to Chribba if you reprocess them twice, one of the components is a Sansha decoder that is.. a living head in a jar.
If you were wondering what the Sansha needed all those civilians for...
yar.
Im so confused.....
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Traidir
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Posted - 2010.12.20 22:32:00 -
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Fascinating, I wonder what the results of Invention using these code breakers as a component would be. Perhaps such research could lead to a solution to the Sansha brainwashing.
I would also be willing to pay for a clone contract for one of these heads. Perhaps if a slave's physical form is freed of the nanites, they would be able to provide additional intel.
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