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PDS001Sniper
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.12.17 00:59:00 -
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Raven class is so ugly. It give me feeling it's fat, and short. Because of the unbalanced shape with a big head on the front.
Give it a comparison to the Caldari battleships, it is the worst ship ever. (Even before the scorpion overhaul)
Also, I noticed the new ships that came out recently went a completely different design path, just wordering when is the turn for Raven class  # CPU brand: Phenomx4 II 965 3.71Ghz # Motherboard: ASUS M4A78T-E # Memory: Mushkin Enhanced 4G DDR3 1333 # Video card: EVGA GTX 295 CO-OP # Operating system: Windows 7 Home 64-Bit
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.17 01:04:00 -
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<----Favorite ship in the game.
Fly something else you big baby and leave my sexy bird alone.
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Under Construction.
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Zeru Adelheid
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Posted - 2010.12.17 01:14:00 -
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While it certainly isn't a priority, I personally feel the Raven is fugly as well, and that is the primary reason I have avoided training up Caldari BS. 
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PDS001Sniper
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.12.17 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm Fly something else you big baby and leave my sexy bird alone.
I'm a L4 mission runner, Golem is the best ship so far I tried. (But it just incredible ugly) # CPU brand: Phenomx4 II 965 3.71Ghz # Motherboard: ASUS M4A78T-E # Memory: Mushkin Enhanced 4G DDR3 1333 # Video card: EVGA GTX 295 CO-OP # Operating system: Windows 7 Home 64-Bit
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.17 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: PDS001Sniper
I'm a L4 mission runner, Golem is the best ship so far I tried. (But it just incredible ugly)
L2Vargur or Mach and Golem is a giant Asymetical Bird of Prey that spams Torps.
Don't be touching my bird and if you do keep her Asymetrical.
-- I can not decide on a sig yet.
Under Construction.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.12.17 05:26:00 -
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I like the way the raven looks, now if only they would bring back the old cnr model, that thing was awesome. black with some big ass launchers on the front, god damn I miss that ship.
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.12.17 05:33:00 -
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I feel confident that CCP can deliver fantastic art assets for every ship in the game, and that those art assets will be superior to the previous ones. Eventually. I for one do not miss the old Scorpion hull. Also, do not speak of the 'Helios'. My poor ****d ship model. 
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2010.12.17 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren Also, do not speak of the 'Helios'. My poor ****d ship model. 
-Liang
Sigh. I miss her so. 
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AdZc
Caldari Legio Prima Victrix
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Posted - 2010.12.17 10:41:00 -
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Edited by: AdZc on 17/12/2010 10:41:47 I would like to see Raven shape changed.
On another note, if you like shape or not atm, can we all agree that the textures reallly need an upgrade, i think they look hideous....mind you that is the case with most of the ships.
Try looking up the front of the hurricane from the nose!!
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1.In r/l blasters actually hit the target becoz they were made better after the web nerf 2.Minny grls wil do pretty-much anything. 3.Quafe tastes like ass*(I know this becoz of 2.
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Absolom Hues
Gallente Trans-Solar Works
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Posted - 2010.12.17 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren ...I for one do not miss the old Scorpion hull... -Liang
Indeed! I like how it even resembles the shape of a scorpion now
I guess CCP could make the Raven look like a large black bird? , but then what would they need to do for the Black Bird Cruiser?   _______ Originally by: "Andracin" "you must realize the truth...there is no ship...then you will find that it is not the ship you fly that sucks...it is yourself..."
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Caleidascope
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.12.17 17:08:00 -
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Get the F out.
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Diesel47
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Posted - 2010.12.17 18:03:00 -
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Raven is disgusting.
Redesign please.
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Isaac Apylon
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2010.12.17 18:08:00 -
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Get out of this forum. The Raven is a sexy torp spewing shield tanking upturned wings bird of death. It looks great, and I fully intend to train Caldari BS V as soon as I can just for it.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.12.17 18:19:00 -
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I feel like they replaced the very ugly scorpion with an ugly scorpion 
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Major Stuart
The Green Cross Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.12.17 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: Major Stuart on 17/12/2010 18:26:19 Edited by: Major Stuart on 17/12/2010 18:25:21 I have caldari BS 5 and I refuse to use the raven, it makes me wana spew when i see it, Rokh is where its at, needs to be bigger tho :P
New scorpian isnt that great either, i thought caldari were about **** being made well and for a purpose, not looks (i know i did just complain about the ravens but i dont care). I think theres a huge ****ing flaw in having that tail thing, just shoot that and the ship loses all ecm or whatever thats for, and imagine trying to get to the top floor from the mess hall at the bottom when some ship warps in and attacks them. Would be spending atleast 10 mins in the elevator while being pew pewed. Drop the tail lower and the shield systems wouldnt have to work so hard either 
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Nora Skuld
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Posted - 2010.12.17 18:30:00 -
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The Raven needs better textures but I think it's also possible to improve the model, while keeping the asymmetry typical of most Caldari ship designs, of course.
The new symmetrical Scorpion is nice, though. But there's a critical flaw in its new design: its edges are hugely beveled. This makes what should be a huge spaceship appear like a frigate. The scorpion-like shape isn't ideal to convey the sense of hugeness to begin with (observe that bigger RL vehicles tends to be very long, not just scaled up version of the smaller ones) but I didn't mind that much for the sake of variety. Now the softer edges and fewer details makes this worst.
Don't get me wrong, it's a nice model... for a frigate. 
I hope other redesigns will take those details into account.
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Khors
Amtek Inc
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Posted - 2010.12.17 18:42:00 -
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Posting in yet another my-perception-can't-comprehend-asymmetry thread
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Keras Authion
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Posted - 2010.12.17 19:21:00 -
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I love the raven model. It's bulky, ugly and full of utilitarian goodness ready to dispense bright explody dots for the minimum price. It does what you expect from a battleship without any extra chrome the other races have spent on their ships, which fits the caldari design philosophy.
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.17 19:35:00 -
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The Raven is fugly when you first see it. But it slowly grows on you until you realize it's a monstrous slow moving demon spiked bird of prey.
Besides, if you really want to fix ugly, do something about the Brutix. It looks like a giant poo with tampon wings.
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Joss56
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.12.17 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton I feel like they replaced the very ugly scorpion with an ugly scorpion 
ugly? are you serious? realy???
Take a Domi instead
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.12.17 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: stoicfaux Besides, if you really want to fix ugly, do something about the Brutix. It looks like a giant poo with tampon wings.
DIAF, In Game. The Brutix is a sexy ship of lean mean muscle and powah.
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Kai Yuen
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Posted - 2010.12.17 19:46:00 -
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Don't even touch the Raven until you fix the Blackbird, the single ugliest ship in the game. Then the Dominix, then MAYBE the Raven.
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Kyo Haku
Minmatar Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2010.12.17 19:51:00 -
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Confirming that the Raven is hideous and makes my eyes bleed in a million pieces whenever I see it. -- "Far be it from me to stand in judgment. I prefer to sit." -Stephen Colbert |

Ghengis Tia
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Posted - 2010.12.17 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm <----Favorite ship in the game. leave my sexy bird alone.
This ship-killer extraordinaire is one of the most intimidating looking ships in the game. It'll be the last ship CCP re-designs, if ever.
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2010.12.17 23:50:00 -
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Navy Scorp, there is your cool looking Raven.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Aaron Barton
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Posted - 2010.12.18 01:54:00 -
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Here's how I'd like to see the Raven hull changed. All minor, in my opinion.
1) Make equal the wings. The left should be the same size as the right. Though perhaps move that protuberance from the right to the left, to kinda balance it out against those spiky radial things beneath the right wing.
2) Pull in those spiky radial things beneath the right wing just a bit, to make them smaller and less distracting from the size of the right wing - the two shouldn't compete for space or attention in my opinion.
3) Make thinner or perhaps remove or replace those two tubes, one beneath in the front right of the ship and the other beneath in the rear left. The size of the tubes makes the ship feel smaller. Also, they give a vulnerability to the ship as they look relatively delicate when compared to the rest of the ship.
4) Remove the giant windshield like texture on the apparent ****pit of the ship and replace it with rows of smaller windows. Would greatly enhance the sense of size and scale to the ship.
5) Maybe thicken the neck connecting the ****pit. It looks far to thin and delicate.
6) Center the model along the central line running from ****pit to engine.
Just my 2 ISK. For the record, I do love the Raven hull. I feel the use of the word "majesty" in the description is appropriate.
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PDS001Sniper
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.12.18 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Barton Here's how I'd like to see the Raven hull changed. All minor, in my opinion.
1) Make equal the wings. The left should be the same size as the right. Though perhaps move that protuberance from the right to the left, to kinda balance it out against those spiky radial things beneath the right wing.
2) Pull in those spiky radial things beneath the right wing just a bit, to make them smaller and less distracting from the size of the right wing - the two shouldn't compete for space or attention in my opinion.
3) Make thinner or perhaps remove or replace those two tubes, one beneath in the front right of the ship and the other beneath in the rear left. The size of the tubes makes the ship feel smaller. Also, they give a vulnerability to the ship as they look relatively delicate when compared to the rest of the ship.
4) Remove the giant windshield like texture on the apparent ****pit of the ship and replace it with rows of smaller windows. Would greatly enhance the sense of size and scale to the ship.
5) Maybe thicken the neck connecting the ****pit. It looks far to thin and delicate.
6) Center the model along the central line running from ****pit to engine.
Just my 2 ISK. For the record, I do love the Raven hull. I feel the use of the word "majesty" in the description is appropriate.
Good ideas # CPU brand: Phenomx4 II 965 3.71Ghz # Motherboard: ASUS M4A78T-E # Memory: Mushkin Enhanced 4G DDR3 1333 # Video card: EVGA GTX 295 CO-OP # Operating system: Windows 7 Home 64-Bit
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Penjual Sayur
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Posted - 2010.12.18 05:25:00 -
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Oh noes, not another "symetrical caldari ship request". Leave mah raven alone~!
If you want sexiness fly amarr.
Also what's up with the helios? fix that first. /distaction
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Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
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Posted - 2010.12.18 09:10:00 -
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After seeing what happened to the scorpion (Went from being distinctive to being a coat hanger) I'd rather not have CCP redesign the Raven.
Symmetry is for suckahs!
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Staggerr
Broski North
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Posted - 2010.12.18 10:22:00 -
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Since when are all spaceships supposed to look good? Its a ****ing combat game, not a fashion contest.
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