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Peter XZ Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.18 06:48:00 - [1] I feel sorry for noobs who collectively loose billions cos the contract window is so confusing, making it ideal for scammers to have their way with unweary victims. CCP stop helping the scammers by making the contract window more clear, instead of having "Cost" followed by the exorbitant scamming amount in red, which noobs dont realise that it'll cost THEM, and Not the sum they will receive, Have instead "You will Pay" Or "Cost to you" , if you dont make the contract window clear, then YOUR HELPING THE SCAMMERS CCP! (And if you're wondering, I've never fallen for those scams myself ) Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona or content directly related to Eve Online. Spitfire
Ildryn X Inc.	Posted - 2010.12.18 06:52:00 - [2] loose? cos? unweary? realise? My god man. My eyes hurt. And the contracts do have a way of letting you know if you are getting money or losing it. Red means you have to pay and green means you get paid. What do they need a map?
Pesky LaRue Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2010.12.18 06:57:00 - [3] Originally by: Ildryn realise? That's actually correct, assuming he's using British English :P .
Peter XZ Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.18 07:01:00 - [4] Originally by: Ildryn loose? cos? unweary? realise? My god man. My eyes hurt. And the contracts do have a way of letting you know if you are getting money or losing it. Red means you have to pay and green means you get paid. What do they need a map? Trust me, most noobs dont take note of the colour of the sum, means nothing to them. They just notice the huge amount of isk and think theyre in the money, the contract window is confusing, was to me, and even now, I have to have a close look at it to make sure its not a scam. Noobs would have no idea what theyre doing if the contract window is unclear. Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona or content directly related to Eve Online. Spitfire
northwesten Amarr Sigillum Militum Xpisti R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.12.18 07:01:00 - [5] Edited by: northwesten on 18/12/2010 07:04:38 Edited by: northwesten on 18/12/2010 07:02:54 OP your are a moron. People who tends to get scram are dumb or dumb or just not paying attention what they doing. Contract is not hard to deal with. It also shows in BIG RED Fing numbers how much it will cost. If they can't work it out then quit EVE and play else where. Contract system has been improved 10x compared years back. Originally by: Peter XZ Trust me, most noobs don't take note of the colour of the sum, means nothing to them. Good they learn fast then and learn to play smart.
Iamien Democracy of Klingon Brothers R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.12.18 07:04:00 - [6] Originally by: Peter XZ I feel sorry for noobs who collectively loose billions cos the contract window is so confusing, making it ideal for scammers to have their way with unweary victims. CCP stop helping the scammers by making the contract window more clear, instead of having "Cost" followed by the exorbitant scamming amount in red, which noobs dont realise that it'll cost THEM, and Not the sum they will receive, Have instead "You will Pay" Or "Cost to you" , if you dont make the contract window clear, then YOUR HELPING THE SCAMMERS CCP! (And if you're wondering, I've never fallen for those scams myself ) Stop accepting private item exchange contracts from. A lot of us get caught by it once. I myself once gave away a 700mil module and paid them 700m for the privilege, NEVER AGAIN! It was really lame too because I was selling the item on behalf of me and 3 other people.
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.18 07:27:00 - [7] Originally by: Peter XZ I feel sorry for noobs who collectively loose billions cos the contract window is so confusing, making it ideal for scammers to have their way with unweary victims. CCP stop helping the scammers by making the contract window more clear, instead of having "Cost" followed by the exorbitant scamming amount in red, which noobs dont realise that it'll cost THEM, and Not the sum they will receive, Have instead "You will Pay" Or "Cost to you" , if you dont make the contract window clear, then YOUR HELPING THE SCAMMERS CCP! (And if you're wondering, I've never fallen for those scams myself ) You fell for the old "That's it, I'm quitting the game! You can have my money for 1 trit" scam, didn't ya? And then you wind up paying 100mil, instead of getting it. Just saw it pasted today in Jita local. You noob! No need to rant at CCP, though. Next time, don't be so horny for cash that you'll click on anything that flashes by without reading first. Your own greed got the better of you. Learn from that. As the saying goes: save yourself, or remain for ever unsaved. --
Peter XZ Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.18 07:28:00 - [8] Originally by: northwesten Edited by: northwesten on 18/12/2010 07:04:38 Edited by: northwesten on 18/12/2010 07:02:54 OP your are a moron. People who tends to get scram are dumb or dumb or just not paying attention what they doing. Contract is not hard to deal with. It also shows in BIG RED Fing numbers how much it will cost. If they can't work it out then quit EVE and play else where. Contract system has been improved 10x compared years back. Originally by: Peter XZ Trust me, most noobs don't take note of the colour of the sum, means nothing to them. Good they learn fast then and learn to play smart. Yure obviously a full time scammer LOL Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona or content directly related to Eve Online. Spitfire
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2010.12.18 07:34:00 - [9] Edited by: Tres Farmer on 18/12/2010 07:34:33 Originally by: Peter XZ I feel sorry for noobs who collectively loose billions.. Which noob has got billions? Or even just hundreds/tenth of millions? If they really make that much isk that fast today, then it won't hurt them that much, or? Also, if the contract actually has money for the guy who looks at it, it clearly states.. Money Offered: blabla And another hint for you. The Contract which actually costs money to get something states RIGHT BELOW THE Cost: blabla part, what is being offered. Anyone who falls for this is just plain old STUPID and you can't save them all! Next thing you demand is a 'real value' field for those WTB contracts, hu? support Public Idea Tracker \| 24hr PLEX
Aiwha Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.18 07:39:00 - [10] Originally by: Peter XZ I feel sorry for noobs who collectively loose billions cos the contract window is so confusing, making it ideal for scammers to have their way with unweary victims. CCP stop helping the scammers by making the contract window more clear, instead of having "Cost" followed by the exorbitant scamming amount in red, which noobs dont realise that it'll cost THEM, and Not the sum they will receive, Have instead "You will Pay" Or "Cost to you" , if you dont make the contract window clear, then YOUR HELPING THE SCAMMERS CCP! (And if you're wondering, I've never fallen for those scams myself ) You mean... Like a popup window that says "You will pay" and lists and amount of isk? Like the one that exists? Gullible
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.12.18 07:50:00 - [11] Originally by: Aiwha You mean... Like a popup window that says "You will pay" and lists and amount of isk? Like the one that exists? that part helps. "are you really sure?"
Peter XZ Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.18 07:51:00 - [12] Originally by: Ranka Mei Originally by: Peter XZ I feel sorry for noobs who collectively loose billions cos the contract window is so confusing, making it ideal for scammers to have their way with unweary victims. CCP stop helping the scammers by making the contract window more clear, instead of having "Cost" followed by the exorbitant scamming amount in red, which noobs dont realise that it'll cost THEM, and Not the sum they will receive, Have instead "You will Pay" Or "Cost to you" , if you dont make the contract window clear, then YOUR HELPING THE SCAMMERS CCP! (And if you're wondering, I've never fallen for those scams myself ) You fell for the old "That's it, I'm quitting the game! You can have my money for 1 trit" scam, didn't ya? And then you wind up paying 100mil, instead of getting it. Just saw it pasted today in Jita local. You noob! No need to rant at CCP, though. Next time, don't be so horny for cash that you'll click on anything that flashes by without reading first. Your own greed got the better of you. Learn from that. As the saying goes: save yourself, or remain for ever unsaved. What?? I been playing this game for 8 months, and that is the oldest trick in the book, no I wasnt scammed, what gave you that idea ?? Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona or content directly related to Eve Online. Spitfire
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.18 07:57:00 - [13] Originally by: Peter XZ What?? I been playing this game for 8 months, and that is the oldest trick in the book, no I wasnt scammed, what gave you that idea ?? Because you're ranting and raving about it like a noob. :) Most folk who do that have been personally affected by the scam (but pretend to speak in name of other, unnamed noobs, or hypothetical friends). If you're 8 months old, and not affected, then why suddenly get your panties in a twist? --
Peter XZ Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.18 07:59:00 - [14] Edited by: Peter XZ on 18/12/2010 07:59:59 Originally by: Ranka Mei Originally by: Peter XZ What?? I been playing this game for 8 months, and that is the oldest trick in the book, no I wasnt scammed, what gave you that idea ?? Because you're ranting and raving about it like a noob. :) Most folk who do that have been personally affected by the scam (but pretend to speak in name of other, unnamed noobs, or hypothetical friends). If you're 8 months old, and not affected, then why suddenly get your panties in a twist? Whats wrong for standing up for "noob rights" and speaking up for them, you never know, may save a few from rage-quitting, and those saved may eventually become valuable members of the CSM Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona or content directly related to Eve Online. Spitfire
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2010.12.18 08:13:00 - [15] Originally by: Peter XZ snip Whats wrong for standing up for "noob rights" and speaking up for them, you never know, may save a few from rage-quitting, and those saved may eventually become valuable members of the CSM Yeah sure.. I will rule for someone who uses 12 question marks in the title and who mostly writes silly questions on the forums. Might wanna use 'eve-search' next time and use the appropriate forums: Skill Discussions - Discuss skills and training plans for your EVE character. support Public Idea Tracker \| 24hr PLEX
Aiwha Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.18 08:14:00 - [16] Edited by: Aiwha on 18/12/2010 08:14:36 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Aiwha You mean... Like a popup window that says "You will pay" and lists and amount of isk? Like the one that exists? that part helps. "are you really sure?" Obviously that's not enough. I propose we have two additional windows. U srs? Followed by Supr srs? Will that suffice to protect you from the nasty scammers OP? Gullible
Rashmika Clavain Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.18 08:21:00 - [17] Scamming is part of EVE. If you don't like it, leave.
RaTTuS BIG Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.12.18 08:24:00 - [18] noobs will not have billions -- Join BIG
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.18 08:28:00 - [19] Edited by: Ranka Mei on 18/12/2010 08:34:11 Originally by: Peter XZ Whats wrong for standing up for "noob rights" and speaking up for them, you never know, may save a few from rage-quitting, and those saved may eventually become valuable members of the CSM Harsh as it may sound, there's a certain kindness in letting noobs fall for certain things. Like getting scammed. Because they'll never make that same mistake twice. Much like losing a valuable ship, due to one's own fault, is a valuable lesson. Noobs will just have to learn restraint and how to read. You overly protect them from scam A, then tomorrow they'll just fall for the 1x tritanium for 1,000,000,000.00 ISK on the local market scam (presumably because it was listed as top-entry, and they couldn't be bothered to read). Or some other scam. The loving thing to do, really, is to tell noobs to be vigilant, and to read, and to not be so stupid as to think people will just give them hundreds of millions of ISK for free. Teach them those skills, and you'll never have to protect them from getting scammed, ever again. --
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2010.12.18 08:34:00 - [20] Nothing wrong with 'taxing' the stupid.
Marchocias Snatch Victory	Posted - 2010.12.18 08:50:00 - [21] Because 12 question marks are always better than 1, amirite???????????? This thread is now about punctuation abuse!!!!!! ---- I belong to Silent Ninja (Hopefully that should cover it).
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.18 08:58:00 - [22] Originally by: Marchocias Because 12 question marks are always better than 1, amirite???????????? This thread is now about punctuation abuse!!!!!! No, I believe Tres was arguing that using 12 question marks does not make one's argument 12x better. Much like one or two exclamation marks generally suffice. --
Arthur Frayn Dafoen Industries	Posted - 2010.12.18 09:34:00 - [23] Edited by: Arthur Frayn on 18/12/2010 09:35:38 Originally by: Peter XZ I feel sorry for noobs who collectively loose billions The only "noobs" with "billions" are the ones who never figured out how to earn those billions the smart way, and thus never learned how the system works and the various methods by which they can be screwed over. They're usually the ones who are dumb enough and persistent enough to mine or grind missions 18 hours a day, or they're lazy enough to buy stacks of GTCs. Such noobs and their isk are soon parted, as nature intended. -- Eventus stultorum magister.
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2010.12.18 09:54:00 - [24] Originally by: Ranka Mei Because you're ranting and raving about it like a noob. :) So because he doesn't like it, he must have been a victim? I rant about scams, never been scammed. I rant about gates, but have only twice in five years been killed at a gate. I rant about the margin trade problem, but have never fallen for it. I rant about how rats drop too much refinable loot, and I don't mine very much. I don't mean to single you out Ranka, so much as pointing to this attitude on the forums how anyone who desires a change must be motivated by their own selfish interests or must be a "troll". There are people out there that do see a problem and desire to see it fixed for no other reason than wanting to make the game better. /rant :) The Real Space Initiative - V7
Marchocias Snatch Victory	Posted - 2010.12.18 10:04:00 - [25] Originally by: Ranka Mei Originally by: Marchocias Because 12 question marks are always better than 1, amirite???????????? This thread is now about punctuation abuse!!!!!! No, I believe Tres was arguing that using 12 question marks does not make one's argument 12x better. Much like one or two exclamation marks generally suffice. Understand, ffs. ---- I belong to Silent Ninja (Hopefully that should cover it).
Halcyon Ingenium Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact	Posted - 2010.12.18 10:34:00 - [26] Originally by: Peter XZ (And if you're wondering, I've never fallen for those scams myself ) Lies. Originally by: Ranka Mei Next time, don't be so horny for cash that you'll click on anything that flashes by without reading first. This is good advice. Originally by: Samuel Langhorne Clemens I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it.
insanebe Caldari Cruentus Invicta	Posted - 2010.12.18 11:03:00 - [27] lol follow one simple rule, if its jita its a scam
Arthur Frayn Dafoen Industries	Posted - 2010.12.18 11:07:00 - [28] Originally by: insanebe lol follow one simple rule, if its broadcast in local anywhere its a scam Fixed. -- Eventus stultorum magister.
Kalle Demos Amarr Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2010.12.18 11:09:00 - [29] Lets be real here if a person is dumb enough to fall for a scam, chances are he will lose alot more for unrelated things, like auto piloting a jump freighter through 0.0 Originally by: Kool StoryBro <--- Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed. Random forum moments ftw
extended downtime	Posted - 2010.12.18 11:25:00 - [30] a) I call it natural selection b) the contract window is fine as it is c) don't feed the trolls ;)

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