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Two Shots
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.01.27 03:30:00 -
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Shamans. Are. Fine.
Learn. To. Play.
Two Shots
Goonwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Ace Echo
Gallente
The Shadow Raiders
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Posted - 2011.01.27 04:45:00 -
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Edited by: Ace Echo on 27/01/2011 04:50:38
hmph... I strongly disagree when people say 'Destroyers are a bad pvp ship' or 'Destroyers are nerfed'.
Granted, they are a typical choice for newer players after a frigate, due to cost and sp requirements. Although that is the case, they are almost completely wrongly identified as being a worse ship class, and, what I disagree with most, the fact that they should be boosted, or in even more influential symantics, Fixed.
Although I hardly know about Minmatar, Amarr, and Caldari Destroyers, I do know that the Catalyst is an excellent ship when flown right, against even large cruiser fleets. It is designed as being an anti-frigate gunboat, and it does that job exceedingly. I've flown with a pro catalyst pilot, and during a deadspace he was consistently killing frigates and light cruisers faster than I could target them in my thorax.
Alas, hardly anybody flies them right anymore. The ship hasn't been nerfed. The pilots have.
I'm going to get a actual destroyer pilot to write an article about it in the ships 'n fittings section, and link it all for you to see, and to learn.
I hope CCP knows that still.
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Falk vonTreskow
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Posted - 2011.01.27 09:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Ace Echo
Edited by: Ace Echo on 27/01/2011 04:50:38
hmph... I strongly disagree when people say 'Destroyers are a bad pvp ship' or 'Destroyers are nerfed'.
Can't really speak to PvP, but I've been doing OK knocking off Sansha frigs with my catalyst.
They are one-shottable by many cruisers, though, and this really limits them in what I think their planned role was (anti tackle & anti drone in fleet fights).
As long as you remember that it is neither a big frigate or a small cruiser, they deliver good bang for your buck.
If anything, maybe a slight sig radius reduction and perhaps adjust PG a little upwards.
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Ace Echo
Gallente
The Shadow Raiders
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Posted - 2011.01.27 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Falk vonTreskow
Originally by: Ace Echo
Edited by: Ace Echo on 27/01/2011 04:50:38
hmph... I strongly disagree when people say 'Destroyers are a bad pvp ship' or 'Destroyers are nerfed'.
They are one-shottable by many cruisers, though, and this really limits them in what I think their planned role was (anti tackle & anti drone in fleet fights).
As long as you remember that it is neither a big frigate or a small cruiser, they deliver good bang for your buck.
If anything, maybe a slight sig radius reduction and perhaps adjust PG a little upwards.
This is where proper flight comes into play. I'm still awaiting my corp's catalyst pilot to write a proper flying guide, (Who flies an eris at incursions taking down frigates, and took all aggro once and didn't get popped), so you can see how to fly one and NOT get killed. |
Envy IX
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Posted - 2011.01.29 01:25:00 -
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Honestly I look forward to seeing a good article regarding effective PVP piloting of any destroyer including fittings and tactics would be a welcome solution to this conversation.
I personally still think that destroyers should actually be resized but that is a personal view because I do not think they should be the same basic size as most cruisers
Personally I just want destoryers to actually be considered a viable PVP threat.
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lwxsky oli
FACTS on EVE
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.29 02:56:00 -
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I want destroyers have a special ability to detect cloaked ships. Like in RL destroyers hunt down submarines with sonar.
Use a special scanner to detect approximate position of cloaked ship in system, and take about 3 min to find one cloaked ship within system standing still.
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Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
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Posted - 2011.01.29 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: lwxsky oli
I want destroyers have a special ability to detect cloaked ships. Like in RL destroyers hunt down submarines with sonar.
Use a special scanner to detect approximate position of cloaked ship in system, and take about 3 min to find one cloaked ship within system standing still.
Your idea will just cause the creation of afk cloaky macros. See: The Cold War
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