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Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.12.20 17:30:00 - [1] EvE Online: Equilibrium The Jovian Fourth Empire is, as they always have been, suffering from depression and genetic degradation. This ever exponentially increasing problem is being met with constant experimentation to find a solution. Most Jovians are convinced the only possible correction is to return to the birthplace of the human race through the Eve Gate. The Dissonance Stability Array aims to stabilize the Eve Gate's chaotic nature and allow for the reopening of the wormhole. NOTE: Eve Gate is blockaded by the Jovians. The only major test of the DSA failed completely and infected the entire stargate network in a chain reaction, shutting it down entirely. All stargate function ceased for a period of three hours, throwing the rest of the galaxy into turmoil which did not end when stargate function resumed. The Amarr Empire declared martial law and directed the Imperial Navy to blockade all Empire space. The Caldari State assumed the Gallente Federation had orchestrated this and declared open war. The Gallente Federation was caught with its pants down in a Pleasure Hub and lost several systems to the State before the Federation Navy was able to muster a comprehensive defense. The Minmatar Republic did not even realize anything had happened (something about tribal council and needing to vote someone off a planet?) until the Imperial Navy blockade came pouring into the border systems. CONCORD moved to secure Genesis and consolidated forces, pulling out of the bulk of the four empires' space leaving local law enforcement to the locals. DED's Capital Fleet now patrols Genesis directly. The list of changes this proposed expansion would bring: * Stargates now have a 20% chance to be offline entirely and 30% chance to send you to the wrong destination during any given hour. There is no way to tell without activating the gate and jumping through. * All ships gain a Fuel Bay standardized for all ships of that hull class. * All ships gain Transwarp Drives (require fuel). * Transwarp speed is based on a given ship's warp speed (yes, warp speed rigs affect transwarp): 3.0 au/s warp speed becomes 3000 au/s transwarp speed. That is about 21 seconds to go 1 ly. * Transwarp can only be navigated from one star to another star. You can't engage Transwarp from a station for example. * Transwarp can not skip a system. If your course from A to B takes you within 0.5 ly of C, you have to Transwarp to C before continuing on to B. This will happen automatically and there will be ample notification of the course routing. That means you WILL drop out of Transwarp at the star in C. * Larger ships should have more effective range, but smaller ships should be faster overall. Titans can Transwarp across the galaxy without refueling, but a Malediction would have to stop for fuel several times. But the Malediction will probably still arrive first. * Transwarp 'tackling' follows the same rules as Jump Drives. * Jump Drive Skills will be rebadged Interstellar and will apply to Jump Drives and Transwarp Drives. * Transwarp has no minimum skill requirement. * Capitals traversing hi sec space in Transwarp will be permitted through if all of their weapon modules are offline and drone bays are empty and they do not try to warp away from the star. Capital pilots failing to heed this will be destroyed by the Faction Dreadnought and Carrier security forces. The Veldnought will be fine Chribba, just don't warp it to the star and try to warp away again. * Fleets transwarping together will do so manually. * As a result of the stargate network problems, the Jovians are offering low end Jovian exploration ships through Outer Ring Excavation. The Intrepid is a BC class hull with cruiser combat rating, but warps at 15 au/s and transwarps at 15000 au/s with a double size fuel bay and 300 m/s base speed with 75% mass of a normal BC. The ship bonuses should reflect more efficient use of engines across the board as well as planetary interaction enhancements. Continued Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.12.20 17:32:00 - [2] * Covert Ops ships cannot Transwarp cloaked. Recloaking delay after exiting Transwarp is 60 seconds. * Black Ops BS should have Transwarp enhanced stats such as more speed and range. Possibly even allow for Transwarping from anywhere and not having to stop en route like normal ships. * Interceptors can follow a ship into Transwarp if they are within 10 km of it and have a target lock. * Transwarp Drives use a secondary capacitor, which is only filled by draining the ships primary capacitor. The secondary capacitor cannot drain the primary capacitor if the primary is below 20%. The energy stored in the secondary capacitor is refunded if the Transwarp is canceled. * Transwarp transition is punch in and punch out. Not the way warp gradually accelerates now. * Transwarp drops you at the destination star in a random bubble with a 100 km radius from the star's 'BM'. * Transwarp uses the same fuels as Jump Drives. Other necessary changes to the game to make this work are welcome to be suggested here. I for one like the idea of unreliable gate functionality, it takes carebear pvpers and shoves them into the mincer. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation	Posted - 2010.12.20 18:04:00 - [3] If you really hate the game that much... so much that you wish to break it... then please... quit the game already. I couldn't even begin to pick apart your foolish proposal[s]... As it is. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.12.20 18:10:00 - [4] Originally by: Drake Draconis I couldn't even begin to pick apart your foolish proposal[s]... As it is. So basically you support it due to not having a reason not to. As for killing Eve, I salivate at the day Eve actually solves the most fundamental of its problems... but I suppose that could be killing it.... Maybe this expansion should be called Phoenix. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation	Posted - 2010.12.20 18:17:00 - [5] If I support a thread....I would click the support flag. But since your trolling so badly your coming across as a total fool... I suspect your unable to grasp such a concept. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.12.20 18:27:00 - [6] Edited by: Anubis Xian on 20/12/2010 18:27:52 As far as I'm concerned, you either debate the topic or you have no reason to post in it. Eve today is hardly what Eve was when I started playing, so there already exists a precedent that precludes argument against this sort of change happening. So essentially you are trolling and have yet to address the topic. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Ephemeron Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.12.20 19:13:00 - [7] Anubis Xian finally went off the deep end. I think it's time you took a break from EVE
DeftCrow Redriver Gallente Best Path Inc.	Posted - 2010.12.20 19:37:00 - [8] Quote: (snip) ...Transwarp... ...The Intrepid... ...punch in and punch out... Star Trek Online infecting Eve Online? No thanks.
Mr LaForge	Posted - 2010.12.20 19:45:00 - [9] Voyager is that you? GO BACK TO THE DELTA QUADRANT!!
Ben Johnson Gallente Deep Space Constructions	Posted - 2010.12.20 20:16:00 - [10] I couldn't find a more obvious and terrible troll in my entire history of EVE... shame on you Anubis, shame on you ___________________________________________

Bagehi Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.12.20 21:32:00 - [11] Star Trek Online is that way -> This signature is useless, but it is red.
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.12.20 22:10:00 - [12] Hey look it's your BS change thread that was already shouted down with a few more, even worse changes.
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2010.12.21 00:10:00 - [13] i stopped reading at stargates might send you somewhere you don't wanna go. the storyline makes sense ( other then slavematar voting people off planet) but all of your proposals are bad. take the same backstory, jovians succeed in opening the wormhole but not back to earth or its galaxy it's too "insert menacing faction here" they have sleeper AI, and are as technologically advanced as jove. jove + capsuleers team up to kill them
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.12.21 02:27:00 - [14] Stargates are the absolute worst thing about Eve. They could at least have been like stargates in Stargate, but no it had to be some arbitrary transit mechanic that is really just a clever way to cover up bad game design. What does any of this have to do with Star Trek or STO? Not a single one of those ideas is bad. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.12.21 04:35:00 - [15] Originally by: Anubis Xian Stargates are the absolute worst thing about Eve. They could at least have been like stargates in Stargate, but no it had to be some arbitrary transit mechanic that is really just a clever way to cover up bad game design. What does any of this have to do with Star Trek or STO? Not a single one of those ideas is bad. Every one of those ideas is bad.
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.12.21 08:12:00 - [16] You will pardon me for not taking your unsupported opinion seriously. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation	Posted - 2010.12.21 08:15:00 - [17] This isn't star trek... or stargate... or world of warcraft. This is EVE Online. If you don't have brains enough to understand that... then pardon me for calling you a bull#### artist. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
SkinSin	Posted - 2010.12.21 08:46:00 - [18] Originally by: Anubis Xian Not a single one of those ideas is bad. Originally by: Anubis Xian You will pardon me for not taking your unsupported opinion seriously. You're the only one who supports your opinion, so your unsupported opinion will not be accepted. The proposals you have mentioned would utterly destroy the game. No one would play if there is no guarantee of ever getting to where you want to go. Want to get to the next system? Transwarp throws you 20 systems away! It then takes a week to get to where you wanted to go because you keep getting sent somewhere else. Rubbish idea.
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2010.12.21 09:05:00 - [19] Needs a bit of work, but I support the general idea. The Real Space Initiative - V7
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.12.21 21:22:00 - [20] Originally by: SkinSin No one would play if there is no guarantee of ever getting to where you want to go. Want to get to the next system? Transwarp throws you 20 systems away! It then takes a week to get to where you wanted to go because you keep getting sent somewhere else. Rubbish idea. Are you ****ed? How could you possibly get that from my suggestion? Originally by:** CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.

Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.12.21 21:25:00 - [21] Originally by: Drake Draconis This isn't star trek... or stargate... or world of warcraft. This is EVE Online. If you don't have brains enough to understand that... then pardon me for calling you a bull#### artist. So what did you call the game before Second Genesis? Because it is hardly the same game now. Nothing in this idea destroys Eve... unless you equate lazy game design (aka the stargate network) to be what defines Eve as Eve... in which case, you have bigger issues than anything I'm posting here. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
klyeme The Mind's Eye Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2010.12.21 21:34:00 - [22] You made me log in just to say... Not Supported (wasted a good 3 seconds of my life)
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.12.21 21:46:00 - [23] Glad to know you felt that strongly about it. It's a good idea, nobody has done anything to demonstrate why it isn't. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.12.21 22:02:00 - [24] Originally by: Anubis Xian Glad to know you felt that strongly about it. It's a good idea, nobody has done anything to demonstrate why it isn't. You say exactly this in every one of your threads when the answer is always "Because your ideas are bad" All of your threads also eventually die the moment you stop rage responding to every criticism
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.12.21 22:19:00 - [25] Because I like to discuss things? Sometimes I get discussion, sometimes just a bunch of lazy trolls who think the idea nerfs them somehow. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.12.21 22:33:00 - [26] Originally by: Anubis Xian Because I like to discuss things? Sometimes I get discussion, sometimes just a bunch of lazy trolls who think the idea nerfs them somehow. It's not that it nerfs anything it's that these ideas are pretty much all contrary to the current flow of Eve and would change the game in fundamentally not fun ways.
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.12.21 22:38:00 - [27] Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Originally by: Anubis Xian Because I like to discuss things? Sometimes I get discussion, sometimes just a bunch of lazy trolls who think the idea nerfs them somehow. It's not that it nerfs anything it's that these ideas are pretty much all contrary to the current flow of Eve and would change the game in fundamentally not fun ways. How exactly would it not be fun? I think stargates hurt the game's fun factor more than anything else about it. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.12.21 22:49:00 - [28] Originally by: Anubis Xian Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Originally by: Anubis Xian Because I like to discuss things? Sometimes I get discussion, sometimes just a bunch of lazy trolls who think the idea nerfs them somehow. It's not that it nerfs anything it's that these ideas are pretty much all contrary to the current flow of Eve and would change the game in fundamentally not fun ways. How exactly would it not be fun? I think stargates hurt the game's fun factor more than anything else about it. Because the random nature of the stargates would kill pvp both large and small scale. While you may not be much for pvp you cant assume we all wish to play the game as you do.
Ephemeron Solitairian Society	Posted - 2010.12.21 23:02:00 - [29] some of you are missing the point. It doesn't matter if these game changes are good or bad. It's pointless to discuss their effect on the game. The proposed ideas are just too radical to be accepted. They change core of the game in big ways. EVE will not be EVE anymore, might aswell pitch it to a new game project
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.12.21 23:19:00 - [30] Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Originally by: Anubis Xian Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Originally by: Anubis Xian Because I like to discuss things? Sometimes I get discussion, sometimes just a bunch of lazy trolls who think the idea nerfs them somehow. It's not that it nerfs anything it's that these ideas are pretty much all contrary to the current flow of Eve and would change the game in fundamentally not fun ways. How exactly would it not be fun? I think stargates hurt the game's fun factor more than anything else about it. Because the random nature of the stargates would kill pvp both large and small scale. While you may not be much for pvp you cant assume we all wish to play the game as you do. Did you miss the whole part about another method of interstellar travel being brought in? All I do is pvp... and make posts that can tank Aurora Dominae. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.



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