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Mayulus
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Posted - 2010.12.24 17:40:00 -
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caution bad english
the base idea about dive bombers is to run straight to your opponents at the same speed of the missiles you lauching to stack them all into a big ball of them for a good alpha this was possible when you could use multiple speed boost modules but it was long time ago and now lots of things have changed like speed of ships and missiles.
to make this idea possible i was thinking about using the hull of tier3 cruiser (stabber omen vexor caracal) because they have only a single T2 variant and give them appropriate bonus to make the thing work like:
racial cruiser bonus:
10% to racial damage for heavy missile per level
30% to heavy missile flight time per level
dive bomber skill bonus:
5% to reduction in mwd sig radius penalty per level
5% to max velocity per level
role bonus: -50% to heavy missile velocity per level
with these bonus high skill heavy missile would run for about 100-105km at 2800 ms.
the hulls should have a max speed considered bonus and skills of 2000-2200 depending on races so they can easily reach the speed of HM with overload.
5 high slots with 5 missile hardpoint so no space for cloak neut or other crap
2-3 med slot so they can fit a light shield tank no need of tackle (2 med for amarr gall, 3 med for minm cald)
4-5 low for damage mods-DC-speed mods (4low for minm cald 5, 5 for amarr gall)
targeting range of about 100km
enough fitting for 5x HM, mwd, 1 LSE, 3BCU plus other things to fill remaining slots like invuln or DC.
no drone bay.
with these stats the hulls and 3 damage mods with max skill would deal 350 dps and 2250 volley with a 6,3 sec rof the low speed of missile make them unusable for any role thats not dive bombing.
considering you can start you attack @ 100km going at 2800 ms it mean you can connect 6 volley for a 13500 alphastrike not enough to BBQ almost anything but in group it could be fun.
ps: a wailing siren would make them perfect but dont wanna go that far
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Xolornem Srrpep
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Posted - 2010.12.24 17:46:00 -
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This wouldn't fill any necessary roles. -support
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shady trader
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Posted - 2010.12.24 19:38:00 -
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Drive bombers were a way of improving the accuracy of you bombs not increasing the amount of damage your weapons do. since the aim of a dive bomber was to come at the the target from as near vertical as possible, if your fighter was aimed at the target, when you released your bombs they were much more likely to hit since you do not have to estimate the amount of horizontal lead you need.
In Eve this is pretty much done via the stealth bomber, you line directly with your target, fly towards it and release your bombs followed by changing course and cloaking before someone blows you out of space.
From that you have said you basically want a new type of bomb that does not have a blast radius but does all the damage to a single ship if you hit.
As for the Max speed, I can think of a much better use for it. Think speed tanked cruiser. About the only thing that could catch it would be an interceptor.
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar
Cloakers
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Posted - 2010.12.25 02:25:00 -
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We used to have your version of dive bombers. They were MWD'ing Raven's from 100k directly at a target while spitting out torps. Raven and torps would all arrive at the same time :)
But CCP nerfed it. As they have any non-blob useful pvp mechanic.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.12.25 06:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Infinity Ziona
We used to have your version of dive bombers. They were MWD'ing Raven's from 100k directly at a target while spitting out torps. Raven and torps would all arrive at the same time :)
Calvary Ravens!!!
*plays Ride of the Valkyries*
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Jaina Sunspot
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.25 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: ShahFluffers
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
We used to have your version of dive bombers. They were MWD'ing Raven's from 100k directly at a target while spitting out torps. Raven and torps would all arrive at the same time :)
Calvary Ravens!!!
*plays Ride of the Valkyries*
First thing I thought of when I saw the thread. <3 Ravens
The cool thing is Torps had the range of Cruise Missiles and you could put 2 MWD's on the Raven. You manually ajusted the speed of the ship to match your Torps. Ungodly Alpha.
Cavalry Raven in Action
What I wouldn't give to fly it.
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Mayulus
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Posted - 2010.12.25 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona
We used to have your version of dive bombers. They were MWD'ing Raven's from 100k directly at a target while spitting out torps. Raven and torps would all arrive at the same time :)
But CCP nerfed it. As they have any non-blob useful pvp mechanic.
i know and they were alot of fun (at least ws a different way to shoot)
indeed the idea comes from that with some limitation so it hard to get insta popped but with a group this coul open some new possibilities of pew pew
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