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Winterburn Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny DEFI4NT	Posted - 2010.12.26 17:10:00 - [1] I've only been in EVE a modest amount of time and have finally gotten the skill to use T2 drones. When I'm piloting a Gallente drone vessel with a large drone bay does it make sense to carry Amarr drones to attack an opponent's shields and Minmatar to attack their armor? I see alot of fits that all seem to use Hammerhead II's as the choice for medium drones. Is it just not worth it to switch to difference racial drones in combat? My PvP experience is just starting so any sage advice would be great.
Karn Velora	Posted - 2010.12.26 17:29:00 - [2] For missions, yes, it makes sense to pack drones that deal the right damage type, absolutely. In pvp, this is less the case. You never know what the enemy resists are like - and usually they are fairly even across the board - "omni-tanked". All drones have a damage modifier - thermal drones deal the most, em drones the least. For this reason, pvp tends to be flooded with gallente drones. Kinetic and Explosive have uses, but are largey negected. Amarrian drones are virtually ignored, due to the low damage modifier. If however you KNOW where your enemy's weakness is - by all means, use the right drones for the job. It's just that with pvp... you rarely know.
Winterburn Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny DEFI4NT	Posted - 2010.12.26 17:45:00 - [3] Thanks, that makes sense. I wasn't sure if the lower damage modifier for the Amarr drones was still worth it by attacking shields with EM damage but I guess the community has decided Gallente are the way to go with medium drones. I still have a long way to go but that advice helps alot. I followed my friends to Heimatar and as a result I never meet many Gallente players. Mostly minmatar.
Seraph Castillon Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.26 18:52:00 - [4] A couple of months ago Minmatar drones were all that was advised on the forums. They have better speed and tracking than Gallente drones and hit the explosive hole that most armor ships have. All that is of course still true, perhaps they're just no longer the FOTM or maybe it's the higher EFT damage or the continued shift to shield BC's that made Gallente favourite again.
Karn Velora	Posted - 2010.12.26 21:52:00 - [5] There is something to say about surprises though. The general consensus is that: Amarr deal EM/Therm due to lasers. Caldari do Kinetic due to Ship bonuses. Gallente do mostly Therm with the drones and the hybrids. Matari are mixed, but EXP intensive. Any time you break from the norm you are being unpredictable and thus a pain in the arse. ;) It won't always work, but it will make you an unpredicatable wildcard, that can cach people by surprise... When the Amarrian shows up packing full wings of Kinetic drones, or the Raven starts blasting EM torps... well things can change pretty quickly. Always fun to watch.
foksieloy Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.12.27 06:50:00 - [6] I would still recommend a wing of Warrior II drones, to chew up frigates. Do not forget ECM drones, if you can spare some dronebay. _______________________ Drink Eau du Nichup«, the taste of heaven. Now available as Nichup Citrus« as well!
Conor Todaki ASTER MINER	Posted - 2010.12.27 17:59:00 - [7] Some people like to use mixed sets like gallente/matar hybid flights. The myrmidon flying 2 Ogres 2 Valkyres and 1 warrior for example.
Edge Horseman	Posted - 2010.12.27 18:42:00 - [8] Originally by: Conor Todaki Some people like to use mixed sets like gallente/matar hybid flights. The myrmidon flying 2 Ogres 2 Valkyres and 1 warrior for example. NO NO NO!!!
Conor Todaki ASTER MINER	Posted - 2010.12.27 18:42:00 - [9] Originally by: Edge Horseman Originally by: Conor Todaki Some people like to use mixed sets like gallente/matar hybid flights. The myrmidon flying 2 Ogres 2 Valkyres and 1 warrior for example. NO NO NO!!! WHY WHY WHY
Jimmy Duce Navy of Xoc	Posted - 2010.12.27 19:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Conor Todaki Originally by: Edge Horseman Originally by: Conor Todaki Some people like to use mixed sets like gallente/matar hybid flights. The myrmidon flying 2 Ogres 2 Valkyres and 1 warrior for example. NO NO NO!!! WHY WHY WHY You usually need spare drones and the ogre 2 take up alot of space in a myrm
Main ForumAlt	Posted - 2010.12.27 19:47:00 - [11] Originally by: Winterburn Thanks, that makes sense. I wasn't sure if the lower damage modifier for the Amarr drones was still worth it by attacking shields with EM damage but I guess the community has decided Gallente are the way to go with medium drones. I still have a long way to go but that advice helps alot. I followed my friends to Heimatar and as a result I never meet many Gallente players. Mostly minmatar. EM weak foes are also therm weak, and the amarr scout and heavy drones are bad. Very bad. Therefore it makes sense to use Gallente drones for anything with a therm primary or secondary weakness and minnie drones for everything else (mostly). I haven't done the maths, but for kin weak enemies caldari drones might be slightly better than gallente ones. Gallente or minnie will always do though. Sentry drones are another matter totally, but you'll see that looking at the stats when the time comes.
Conor Todaki ASTER MINER	Posted - 2010.12.27 21:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Jimmy Duce Originally by: Conor Todaki Originally by: Edge Horseman Originally by: Conor Todaki Some people like to use mixed sets like gallente/matar hybid flights. The myrmidon flying 2 Ogres 2 Valkyres and 1 warrior for example. NO NO NO!!! WHY WHY WHY You usually need spare drones and the ogre 2 take up alot of space in a myrm Myrm has 125m3 of drone space allowing for a DPS flight (2 LArges 2 Meds and 1 light) a Warrio II flight and a med ECM flight. I don't think the ogres take THAT much space.
Izuru Hishido Amarr Lethal Dosage. Violent Society	Posted - 2010.12.29 06:45:00 - [13] Find out what race of NPC you're attacking, look for the drone that does the appropriate damage type, use that drone. Also, suggested drone skills: (Don't worry, These are just suggestions, but they are important.) Combat Drone Operation 4 or higher Drone Navigation 4 or higher Drone Durability 4 or higher Drone Sharpshooting 4 or higher EWAR Drone Interfacing 4 or higher Drone Interfacing 5 (It IS worth it) Racial Drone skill 4 (Getting the racial drone skills to 5 is a waste. Its 32+ days for a 2% damage increase. You'd be much better off training support skills to five instead.) The reason a lot of players pick Hammerhead II's and use them exclusively is that they do slightly higher damage than any other medium drone types. To be honest, I fly a paladin for missions and I have a set of Warrior II's and a set of Hammerhead II's. I never change them. The reason being is because my skills are at such a point that it doesn't matter, especially when you just use them to shoot frigates and cruisers. I don't honestly expect you to train up all those skills to match or exceed what I have, but if you get everything on that list to four at least, you'll be sitting pretty. Hope that helped OP. "The point of war is not to die for your country, its to make the other bastard die for his."
Th0rG0d Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.12.30 18:24:00 - [14] Originally by: foksieloy I would still recommend a wing of Warrior II drones, to chew up frigates. Do not forget ECM drones, if you can spare some dronebay. ^^ this. Warriors will keep up with fast frigates that Hobs can't catch. Hornets are fast too, but Kin tends to be a well resisted resist, due to it's commonness as a damage type. For PvE, I always run with Gal drones. They are usually just supplemental damage, and their higher damage modifier makes up for the mismatched resist profile. Drone boats have extra damage bonuses, and make mission correct drones more effective. Adrift in New Eden
Zanes Shoubje	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:54:00 - [15] As far as NPCs go Gallente drones are always best except for the Angel Cartel where you should use Minmatar drones. In almost all cases the drawback for not using the damage type the NPC is weakest to is compensated by the extra damage the Gallente drones do. Sentry drones are a different story because of tracking and range differences.
Saaya Illirie Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.01.01 03:19:00 - [16] Amarr drones are broken. Use Gallente in all cases where using Amarr drones might be useful. If you need fast drones, use Warriors. Berzerker's are great for battleships with 125m3 bandwidth because they fly WAY faster than Ogres, which is important. But Amarr drones have inferior damage, tracking, and speed than Minmatar, and their damage type, EM, isn't as useful as Thermal from Gallente because of the inferior damage modifier. In summation: Minmatar drones are the best for PVP. Warriors, Valks, and Berzerkers. Yes, Drakes are fotm, so carry some Gallente drones to handle the shield guys.

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