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Mammal Tafren
Gallente
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2011.01.02 01:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Hamish Grayson
Namas brother Tafren,
This is interesting since I was just asked; 'why are the Caldari choosing to violate the Intaki Assembly's ceasefire that has been in place for nearly nine months' by another reporter and former member of the ILF.
I replied:
"The Intaki Assembly asked members of the Federal Defence Union to ceasefire against the non-combtant civilian forces of Ishukone and the Mordu's Legion pilots hired to act as a Naval force for the Intaki Assembly. I suspect that the Intaki Assembly had little choice in asking for this ceasefire since many of the massacred crewmen aboard those ships were local Intaki hired by the Ishukone corporation.
I seriously doubt their constituents would be happy if the Assembly stood by and allowed Intaki citizens to be murdered in the thousands by rabid dogs like Julianus Sorter. So unless the Caldari Militia have followed the example of Moria and other vengeful Gallenteans and started mass executions of both Caldari and Intaki civilians over the skies of Intaki prime then I don't see how they've violated that ceasefire."
Perhaps you should take the time to consider the words of the the Intaki Assembly more closely Isha Sainika.
Hamish,
It is interesting that you should mention your interview. You rightly point out that the reporter is an ex-ILF member, and as such, I was already aware of your comments.
I was also aware of some other unkind and, much more importantly, untrue words that you said of my organisation in the interview. I had considered you a friend of our cause and it is disappointing that this is not so.
As for the ceasefire in question, I think it's fairly clear that the Assembly addressed 'loyalist captains', an inclusive term which addresses capsuleers enrolled in both militias and additionally, that the Assembly accepts the purview of the Ishukone Corporation to operate in the system, exclusively.
As for your final, personal dig at me, it is hardly necessary to rely on such passive-aggressive argument techniques such as calling my adherence to Ida into question. I guess I was mistaken to have thought highly of you.
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Hamish Grayson
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2011.01.02 05:29:00 -
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To the the best of my knowledge everything I spoke of was the truth and If you believe I am in error then I'm more than willing to have a discussion to sort out the truth. If my words were unkind then it is because I feel I have a right, as Caldari citizen of Intaki heritage and as one who put his reputation, his word, and the lives of his crew on the line for the ILF, to feel betrayed by the words of those under your command.
My remarks were not a dig at you, but a request from one follower of Ida to another to reconsider the path you seem to have chosen. I've no love for the provists, but I do not think the entire Caldari race deserves to be demonized in the way I have seen pilots of the ILF do here on the IGS and in your public channel. Additionally I do not feel that anyone could accidentally misconstrue "all loyalist captains cease hostilities against Ishukone and Mordu's Legion vessels in Intaki space" as a request for either the FDU and StaPro to cease hostility against one another. Nor do I feel that any fighting occurring in the area is solely the fault of the Protectorate as the tone of Levi Saul's interview seemed to suggest.
I will grant you that I maybe in error here, but surely you can how this looks from my point of view? It appears as if the ILF is purposefully misleading people about the intentions of the the Intaki Assembly. That, in my opinion, is a terrible tragedy and would if it's ture I would implore you to re-think that decision. It would be doing the Intaki people and the Intaki independence movement a great injustice.
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Mammal Tafren
Gallente
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2011.01.02 08:55:00 -
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Edited by: Mammal Tafren on 02/01/2011 08:58:00
((I wrote the best post ever here. It took me ages, then I accidently deleted it. I'm not writing it again. I'll discuss it with you in person, Hamish.))
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Sakuma Ogunuchi
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2011.01.02 17:07:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Aicar Leuscirh
if one travels to Ladistier or Vifravaert, one will find Caldari Navy ships present there.
Caldari Navy ships station in Tsuruma
Garrisoning force in Ladistier
Garrisoning force in Vifravaert
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Quality Caldari goods. |
Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2011.01.02 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Mammal Tafren
However, it may be more correct to say that this is more the brainchild of Damar Rocarion and Draketrain, rather than STPRO as a whole. If that is the case, and DRAEP is a rogue element, as I've lately heard, then I would love to hear something on that from other members of the STPRO. Additionally, I have not given up hope on coming to a compromise with Damar, but time will tell.
I resent being called a rogue element when:
a) I am engaged in sanctioned and legal military actions agreed by all sides of the conflict.
b) I only engage designated war targets or outlaws and hopefully rest of my associates in STATEPRO do this as well.
c) Attempt my best to protect civilian traffic and even assist ILF as I did when their POS came under attack.
And since Intaki falls under designated combat area, not that it stops us or gallentes going over these artificial boundaries (such as is case with Villore), I fail to see why any STATEPRO member should cease their activity there.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
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Mammal Tafren
Gallente
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2011.01.02 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
I resent being called a rogue element
Which is fair enough.
However, I think if you re-read my post you will find that no-one from the ILF referred as a rogue element. In fact, if you take issue at all, then your issue is with some members of STPRO, who have described you as such to me.
As I said, I have not given up hope on a compromise.
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Syyl'ara
Gallente
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2011.01.03 05:11:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Hamish Grayson
I've no love for the provists, but I do not think the entire Caldari race deserves to be demonized in the way I have seen pilots of the ILF do here on the IGS and in your public channel.
I have spent the better part of a year now in close cooperation with the ILF and have not found it to be the case that any culture of animosity towards the Caldari exists at the institutional level. There have been rare moments of disagreement on issues which relate to Caldari affairs, as is to be expected in any diverse gathering of pilots. That is not the same as blanket demonizing or other ethnic insensitivity.
Quite frankly, I've made much more inflammatory statements about many Gallente than I've ever seen said of Caldari by any ILF pilots. If there are specific examples of grievance which you would like to discuss, perhaps it would be good to have a constructive dialogue. Vaguely stating that "someone said something" is not a problem that can be addressed and happens all to frequently on the IGS to have much credibility (I'm not attacking yours, mind you, just saying that given the venue, it does not carry much substantive weight).
Ishukone Prosperity Exchange
"Cooperation is the greater path than conflict."
Syyl'ara
Infrastructure Security Coordinator |
Levi Saul
The EVE Observer
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Posted - 2011.01.04 21:36:00 -
[38]
The article alluded to in several previous posts has been published.
You can read it here |
Kerri Knight
Caldari
Ishukone Prosperity Exchange
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Posted - 2011.01.05 04:08:00 -
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I applaud the article for its exhaustive inclusion of views on the current situation. Though once fully appraised of such by the statements given, was saddened to see so much partisanship and blatant distortion of facts in order to further agendas.
I have two statements of clarification to offer:
1) Echoing Mr. Revenent's comments, Ishukone has no authority in matters of Intaki governance.
I am entirely confused by Mr. Grayson's opinion that Ishukone is "responsible for the current situation." Unless some evidence can be offered showing Ishukone demanding that Provists begin a new offensive, such an accusation simply seems out of alignment with the currently known and expected outlook and philosophy that has existed since the Providence Directorate became the driving political force in the State. It stands as a testament to the wisdom and judgment of the Ishukone board that though it was Mr. Gariushi's loss that in some ways lead to the current war that they have remained one of the most steadfast voices of moderation rather than the ravenous baying for blood seen from other factions.
2) Mordu's Legion forces are not authorized to act in support of nor opposition to militia forces on either side of the conflict.
Their legal jurisdiction is only in matters which are covered by the Shipping and Security franchise the Intaki Assembly retained when it joined the Federation. Much disagreement continues between Federation and Assembly voices as to whether military/naval activities are included or only those operations which are intended to insure safe delivery of goods and passengers through Assembly-governed space. Regardless, naval forces are not within the legal framework of the Emergency Militia War Powers Act which CONCORD ratified, thus Mordu's may not take sides in either case.
Ishukone Prosperity Exchange
"Cooperation is the greater path than conflict."
Kerri Knight
Public Relations Coordinator/
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