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Michael Zign
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:03:00 -
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Edited by: Michael Zign on 30/12/2010 02:06:22
Edited by: Michael Zign on 30/12/2010 02:05:16
I have recently opened a complaint to the UK gambling commission and have started proceedings against CCP over EVE on-line in the UK small claims courts.
My complaint is that CCP charges money for a gambling platform that is both corrupt and unfair.
I always wondered why eve has been so persistent in punishing isk sellers and not so bothered about bots and exploiters.
Well the reason is they are **** scared of various regions gaming commissions.
Well hopefully I'm about to ruin them as I've just sold ISK on several accounts proving that Eve online is a capable gambling platform.
As CCP does not own a book makers licence they are operating within the UK illegally.
I was able to wager several pounds sterling on CCP programs and then withdraw both earnings and loss from various accounts.
If any other players wish to join me in legal action please reply to this thread. Also if there are any legal specialists that think there is a just cause for legal action I would like to here from you.
If this post is deleted don't worry as I will create another 1 shortly.
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Demolishar
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:05:00 -
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Stick it to da man!
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Lynmar Sutek
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:06:00 -
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Michael Zign, I figure you are full of it but whether you are or not ...
PPttthhh!!!!
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:07:00 -
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Suddenly Ninjas? Didn't they used to be famous for popping paladins?
The irony .. ? 
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DjLowballer
Amarr
Firebird Squadron
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:08:00 -
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Considering the conversion of ISK->Hard currency is against the TOS I don't think you will get far in any court. Though this is the UK where ads are pulled based on 4 complaints.
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:09:00 -
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 Originally by: DjLowballer
Considering the conversion of ISK->Hard currency is against the TOS I don't think you will get far in any court. Though this is the UK where ads are pulled based on 4 complaints.
I wonder how much a company like CCP spends on legal consulting in a tax year anyways. I bet its lots. 
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Zign
CCP charges money for a gambling platform
Really?
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:15:00 -
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The OP is either not capable of rational thought and analysis or he his making this up.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Michael Zign
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:17:00 -
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If you're from the UK and would like to make a complaint please do so here. You'll have to write to CCP first but as they've not responded to my written complaint you can take it further by following these guidelines.
http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gh-contact_us/complaints/how_do_i_complain_about_a_gamb.aspx
I'm also making a complaint through the financial ombudsman service.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/12/2010 02:20:17
Originally by: Michael Zign
I have recently opened a complaint to the UK gambling commission and have started proceedings against CCP over EVE on-line in the UK small claims courts.
Scan of all relevant official documents confirming actual involvement of the courts or STFU.
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Well hopefully I'm about to ruin them as I've just sold ISK on several accounts
Enjoy your permabans.
Originally by: Michael Zign
Eve online is a capable gambling platform.
By using your logic, I can "prove" that just about anything is a capable gambling platform.
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Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Michael Zign
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
Originally by: DjLowballer
Considering the conversion of ISK->Hard currency is against the TOS I don't think you will get far in any court. Though this is the UK where ads are pulled based on 4 complaints.
I wonder how much a company like CCP spends on legal consulting in a tax year anyways. I bet its lots.
Bah, small claims tribunal is free and I've got a day off to waste so I've nothing to lose.
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Michael Zign
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Michael Zign
I have recently opened a complaint to the UK gambling commission and have started proceedings against CCP over EVE on-line in the UK small claims courts.
Scan of all relevant official documents confirming actual involvement of the courts or STFU.
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Well hopefully I'm about to ruin them as I've just sold ISK on several accounts
Enjoy your permabans.
I've only just submitted and it's the holidays it will be 14 days max, hold your horses !
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Zign
Bah, small claims tribunal is free and I've got a day off to waste so I've nothing to lose.
Except your account, obviously.
I'd say "gimme your stuff", but I'm afraid that accepting stuff from a self-admitted ISK seller would taint my wallet and hangarà
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Zign
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
Originally by: DjLowballer
Considering the conversion of ISK->Hard currency is against the TOS I don't think you will get far in any court. Though this is the UK where ads are pulled based on 4 complaints.
I wonder how much a company like CCP spends on legal consulting in a tax year anyways. I bet its lots.
Bah, small claims tribunal is free and I've got a day off to waste so I've nothing to lose.
Doesn't the UK have a fine or something for wasting court time with BS lawsuits?
Gullible
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:25:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/12/2010 02:26:41
Originally by: Michael Zign
Bah, small claims tribunal is free and I've got a day off to waste so I've nothing to lose.
Well, let's see - you have the access to all your EVE accounts to lose, and you might have conveniently forgotten to report and pay taxes from your irregular income derived from rendering a service to another player, so you might have something else to lose too.
However, I doubt you did any of this anyway, so, meh.
Plus, I doubt the courts will be very amused by your claims, if you somehow were stupid enough to actually do it.
Oh, and "IBTL", just reported your OP for publicly admitting to RMT.
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Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:26:00 -
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It's threads like this that prove that America has no monopoly on stupidity.
Thanks for bringing shame on my homeland, idiot.
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:27:00 -
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Edited by: Doctor Ungabungas on 30/12/2010 02:34:51
Originally by: Michael Zign
I've only just submitted and it's the holidays it will be 14 days max, hold your horses !
Luckily, you won't be playing eve and so you'll have plenty of time. Removing bad posters is a noble goal and I wholeheartedly support CCP in their endeavorer.
PS: Don't forget to collect all the taxes and duties, just in case you get audited.
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar
Cloakers
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:28:00 -
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Since you are not allowed to sell isk and convert it into real life currency according to CCP's end user license agreement but you did, they are not responsible, you are.
An analogy is me getting a hotel room, playing a few games of poker with my friends with cash on the table, even though the sign on the door says no friends and no illegal poker games, and then complaining to the authorities that the hotel is running illegal gambling...
It makes no sense.
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Michael Zign
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:28:00 -
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CCP Games UK
This is the address I sent the written complaint to. It's been 14 days but maybe because of the holiday I should give them some extra time to respond?
The gaming commission states that they must reply within 14 days and the financial ombudsman service states they have 31 working days. Well I will wait 31 working days before submitting the written request to the claims courts.
If any one wishes to join me please reply and we can talk about joint action but first you should write to CCP.
PO Box 150
Herschel House
58 Herschel Street
Slough
Berkshire
SL1 1HD4
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Michael Zign
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:35:00 -
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So why is EVE CCP so paranoid about real money transactions when I have proof that they make it easily accessible.
It's like saying ''thou shalt not murder'' then going on a murder rampage.
Eve online is a dangerous gambling phenomena that should be under the regulation of the gambling commission. CCP have deliberately mislead both the public and the authority on the true nature of their product 'Eve online'.
EVE online allows the wagering of real life currency across its software and as such should be registered with the gaming commission.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Green-Core
The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Oh, and "IBTL", just reported your OP for publicly admitting to RMT.
This.
Enjoy your ban.
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Zign
So why is EVE CCP so paranoid about real money transactions when I have proof that they make it easily accessible.
Because they want to have a monopoly on the conversion of real money to Isk.
Do you need me to spoon feed you breakfast as well?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Oh, and "IBTL", just reported your OP for publicly admitting to RMT.
àI wonder if you could ask the GMs to hand over his stuff once he's tossed out. It can't be considered dirty ISK if they do it, right? 
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Michael Zign
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:40:00 -
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Well CCP I'm waiting for my letter through the door or do you just refuse to return written complaints?
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Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Zign
Well CCP I'm waiting for my letter through the door or do you just refuse to return written complaints?
Give them time. They need to select a good flavor of cheese.
Gullible
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Toros Revoke
Revoke Foundation
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:43:00 -
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Forgive me if I'm being slow, why is eve gambling and why is it dangerous and why would you bother?
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Toros Revoke
Forgive me if I'm being slow, why is eve gambling and why is it dangerous and why would you bother?
He hasn't, he is trolling and accidently shot his **** off by admitting to RMT that probably didn't happen.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Zign
Edited by: Michael Zign on 30/12/2010 02:06:22
Edited by: Michael Zign on 30/12/2010 02:05:16
I have recently opened a complaint to the UK gambling commission and have started proceedings against CCP over EVE on-line in the UK small claims courts.
My complaint is that CCP charges money for a gambling platform that is both corrupt and unfair.
I always wondered why eve has been so persistent in punishing isk sellers and not so bothered about bots and exploiters.
Well the reason is they are **** scared of various regions gaming commissions.
Well hopefully I'm about to ruin them as I've just sold ISK on several accounts proving that Eve online is a capable gambling platform.
As CCP does not own a book makers licence they are operating within the UK illegally.
I was able to wager several pounds sterling on CCP programs and then withdraw both earnings and loss from various accounts.
If any other players wish to join me in legal action please reply to this thread. Also if there are any legal specialists that think there is a just cause for legal action I would like to here from you.
If this post is deleted don't worry as I will create another 1 shortly.
Quoting for posterity and evidence OP just admitted he is a RMT.
Other reason op is an idiot, posted on his main with his alliance tag.
Next saying eve is a gambling platform is just lulz. I dont know too much about law, but how does selling isk prove that eve is a capable gambling platform?
ok my head hurts now. just thinking about this post makes me lose faith in humanity even more.
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Kill Rockstar
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:46:00 -
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What's happened? sounds like you spent money on plex and lost it and now your mad?
If not and you are going to claim "I have loads of isk", clearly you have put time/effort into this game and at one point liked it....
So if you don't like it any more why not just **** off instead of trying to ruin the game for others....
You sir are stupid and a disgrace to the UK, I hope your ban is swift and permanent!
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Xylengra
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Posted - 2010.12.30 02:56:00 -
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Eve isn't operating an illegal gambling platform in England - you are (if you seriously bet real money and received real money losses or winnings).
A mind is such a horrible thing to waste, isn't it?
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