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Toby Bojangles
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Posted - 2010.12.30 12:09:00 -
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If you aren't in a good corp in FW you are walking a thin line every moment you engage in anything fw related between certain death and stupidity.
1) Do not take general militia fleets ever
1a. If you do take general militia fleets do not listen to the FC as he is most likely going to get you killed
-If you are suprised at some thing that happens. He is 100x more suprised. Warp out.
-If he isn't using scouts. Dock up and drop fleet.
- If he is drunk, drop fleet because he's not a good fc in the first place most likely and those two can't mix
2} Never help anyone in general militia, especially no distress calls. Its a trap and your dead already.
3) If a friendly warps into your plex and you do not know him i.e is related to you or in your corp. Either run or teamkill him he's 99% a spy and a group of reds in dramiels is in the next system. He is scouting you.
4) Even if someone is not just general militia but is in another corp. Do not trust him ever.
5) If he is in your corp trust him with extreme caution if you only know him a little bit.
6) Going back to number 1. You will meet so many incopitant FCs. You might not even know they're incompetant at first. Just general rule of thumb. No scout, talks ****y or conversly to unsure just either leave or be ready to warp out. But if you don't leave you might not be able to get away.
7) FW lowsec is some of the most dangerous lowsec. Missioning there even in a cloaky is extrodinarily dangerous.
8) I'm to bored to keep writting but there's more.
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sYnc Vir
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2010.12.30 12:18:00 -
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 Originally by: Toby Bojangles
If you aren't in a good corp in FW you are walking a thin line every moment you engage in anything fw related between certain death and stupidity.
1) Do not take general militia fleets ever
1a. If you do take general militia fleets do not listen to the FC as he is most likely going to get you killed
-If you are suprised at some thing that happens. He is 100x more suprised. Warp out.
-If he isn't using scouts. Dock up and drop fleet.
- If he is drunk, drop fleet because he's not a good fc in the first place most likely and those two can't mix
2} Never help anyone in general militia, especially no distress calls. Its a trap and your dead already.
3) If a friendly warps into your plex and you do not know him i.e is related to you or in your corp. Either run or teamkill him he's 99% a spy and a group of reds in dramiels is in the next system. He is scouting you.
4) Even if someone is not just general militia but is in another corp. Do not trust him ever.
5) If he is in your corp trust him with extreme caution if you only know him a little bit.
6) Going back to number 1. You will meet so many incopitant FCs. You might not even know they're incompetant at first. Just general rule of thumb. No scout, talks ****y or conversly to unsure just either leave or be ready to warp out. But if you don't leave you might not be able to get away.
7) FW lowsec is some of the most dangerous lowsec. Missioning there even in a cloaky is extrodinarily dangerous.
8) I'm to bored to keep writting but there's more.
Those I made bold are so wrong that it took me 5 minutes to stop laughing. Drunk FCs are fun FCs. All ship will die in fleets at some point. Dont buy a ship your not happy to die in. IF you mission you should be doing FW mission, which you use a SB for, very easy to warp away and cloak.
Also Low Sec isn't all that dangerous. Just dont be ******ed and jump blind into know camp spots. IE Tama/Kedama.
If you want super fun times, go plex in Hyd, uber friendly.
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Nuniki
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.12.30 12:24:00 -
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Lost three ships today.
Today was a fun day.
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Isaac Avernas
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.12.30 12:24:00 -
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I miss the "FW sucks, stop playing it" Guy.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.12.30 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Isaac Avernas
I miss the "FW sucks, stop playing it" Guy.
He is mainly in Oicx local now, demanding solo pvp while getting boosts from his station hugging claymore alt.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
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Cordarouy Pants
Amarr
Real Salmon
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Posted - 2010.12.30 13:03:00 -
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Should I join Caldari?
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Gallactica
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.12.30 13:16:00 -
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99% of the time i FC i'm drunk as are most of my corp.
drunk fc's are the best fc's - end of.
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Spruillo
Gallente
Spruillo Corp
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Posted - 2010.12.30 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: Spruillo on 30/12/2010 16:14:39
FLEET TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!FOR THE GLORY OF GALLENTE
DUR HUR GREAT JOB GAIS WE FREED DODIXIE
SO WHAT WE DO NOW?
DUNNO
HOW MANY WE GOT
5, 2 CLOAKY SCOUTS AND 3 T1BS
LETS GO ROAM!
YEAH
(10 minutes latr)
IS OMS CLEAR?
YEAH ONLY LIKE 80 PPL HERE BUT THE GATES CLEAR ITS SAFE YO
K FLEET WARPING TO OMS GATE JUMP ON CONTACT!
GOGOGO!
DURP!
RUNRUNRUN
oh well gais lets reform
In what our pods?
I gotta thorax back in dodixie
(still would do again, 10/10)
Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
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Wex Manchester
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Posted - 2010.12.30 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Spruillo
oh well gais lets reform
In what our pods?
I gotta thorax back in dodixie
That's biography material right there.
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Eva Valeer
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Posted - 2010.12.30 16:47:00 -
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Hey, thorax is a great violence boat! You would be able to do great things in it if Ruptures, Arbitrators, Caracals and Battlecruisers didn't exist.
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Spruillo
Gallente
Spruillo Corp
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Posted - 2010.12.30 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Eva Valeer
Hey, thorax is a great violence boat! You would be able to do great things in it if Ruptures, Arbitrators, Caracals and Battlecruisers didn't exist.
So... We need more thoraxeses to prevent this?
Originally by: CCP Big Dumb Object
When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed.
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Eva Valeer
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Posted - 2010.12.30 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Spruillo
Originally by: Eva Valeer
Hey, thorax is a great violence boat! You would be able to do great things in it if Ruptures, Arbitrators, Caracals and Battlecruisers didn't exist.
So... We need more thoraxeses to prevent this?
Rich people hunting the middle class for sport? I don't see the problem with that...
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Saaya Illirie
Caldari
Absinthe Brothers
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Posted - 2011.01.01 05:56:00 -
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This was so wrong it's ridiculous. Amarr has great FC's that do general roams; we even typically fly in T2 because we're confident enough. We also get very large fights with lots of battleships. So, either you've had experience in Minmatar militia, or you just aren't lucky. These are true:
Never help anyone asking for help in a public place unless they're on comms and you've got back up and you're SURE the enemy doesn't have an FC and support one system over.
Your allied militia (i.e. Caldari to Amarr) are probably enemies if they're hanging around you too much. As Amarr, never trust Caldari militia, especially Draketrain - they will shoot you.
Don't autopilot in hisec, you will get podded by interceptors which are fast enough to ignore navy police.
When doing FW missions, spam your 1AU scan every 5 seconds when someone else is in system. Anyone you don't recognize (aren't fleeted with) shows up, gtfo or get ready to engage.
Always watch your opponents max speed if he's trying to get you to aggress. If he's going faster than normal, he probably a neut T3 boost nearby. Don't engage without proper ewar support or you'll die.
When you first join militia, fly cheap **** T1 stuff until you know who the good FC's are. Fly expensive stuff with the good FC's, and cheap **** with the crap FC's.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.01 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Saaya Illirie
As Amarr, never trust Caldari militia, especially Draketrain - they will shoot you.
Really? Is there any militia they won't shoot?
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2011.01.01 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: X Gallentius
Originally by: Saaya Illirie
As Amarr, never trust Caldari militia, especially Draketrain - they will shoot you.
Really? Is there any militia they won't shoot?
This is just a matter of Amarr militia member shooting and podding my neutral assistant. In revenge I destroyed said pilots drake which he used to conduct the crime. Otherwise only Amarr i've ever shot have been people attacking me.
As for Adolf...consider him a force of nature which no-one has any control over.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
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Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.01.01 13:48:00 -
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I know op is just trolling, but some people I have met are close to actually thinking that way.
So I would just point out if you want to avoid death why join a huge war? Stay in high sec.
-Cearain
Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906 |
Mara Abraham
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.02 00:27:00 -
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Greetings Toby:
I can only speak for the Minmatar Militia; and from my own experience in it.
1. I've been in a number of general militia fleets where the entire fleet survived or otherwise came out ahead. The key is knowing whether the FC along with core fleet members have experience or are just winging it; AND, what tactics is the FC known to take against the WT's and pirates.
If you decide to join a fleet, you should always follow the FC orders unless you are 100% sure the FC is wrong. To give a generalized statement that one should not obey the FC is to make sure the fleet fails.
2. While it is sad (for me), I do agree that you are taking heavy chances helping anyone in general militia. A number of my losses were to actually seeing people having a fighting chance against an enemy (group or solo), where I warp in to help, and they either bail or do something to totally goof it up.
3. I've warped into plexes not knowing if there was a friendly or wt; so I would advise giving the friendly a few seconds to warp out. Then dscan more than normal to make sure.
For me, fw has its ups and downs. More ups than downs.
Thank you.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.02 01:35:00 -
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Stay docked.
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Mara Abraham
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.02 04:55:00 -
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Greetings:
"Amarr has great FC's that do general roams; we even typically fly in T2 because we're confident enough."
Yes, Preditor Elite who calls in a 0.0 alliance with 11 super carriers and MOMs because the blob was not big enough ;-)
Most Amarr cannot solo worth anything; so yes, you do have to worry about the Amarr super blobs in terms of avoiding FW death in the Amarr vs. Minmatar FW.
But then when it comes to 1v1, even a four year+ character with t2 mods could not solo a new PVP player with just T1 mods --
http://www.minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=166736
BTW, this was after a lot of smack talk where a large Amarr blob was calling three of us chickens for not fighting 3 against 24ish. So Nitro DSP challenged the main smack talker to a 1v1, and beat up his but.
Thank you.
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masternerdguy
Gallente
Meerkat Maner
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Posted - 2011.01.02 05:03:00 -
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so, basically, you want everyone to be paranoid and mistrusting of each other.
Let me tell you something about general militia. Its useful, extremely useful.
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Schalac
Caldari
Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2011.01.02 08:55:00 -
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I must do everything wrong in FW then, because 90% of the stuff the OP mentions I do everytime actually go out and pvp with FW peeps.
Beer, Check.
General fleets from milchat, check.
Trust people that I don't know, check.
Honestly, being drunk and roaming with random people looking for kills is the best part of FW. So what if I or you are a spy. I fly ships that are already counted as losses and chances are you won't get my pod. Even if you do I got 3 remaps avail so I just lug in my cheap ass +4 train more stuff and fit a new ship.
SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN |
Yuki Sanada
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2011.01.02 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Eva Valeer
Hey, thorax is a great violence boat! You would be able to do great things in it if Ruptures, Arbitrators, Caracals and Battlecruisers didn't exist.
Thorax.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2011.01.02 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Abraham
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Hehe, this guy is known for constant "you are blobing" whinage in local.
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Mara Abraham
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.02 17:20:00 -
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Greetings:
Except for last night when I was laughing all the way. I land in the middle of a two+ squad Amarr blob hosting frigates to faction battle ships and other specialty ships in my claw. Shoot up one of the griffin next to my claw, and then warp out with Preditor Elite just glaring at me for destroying one of his ships in the middle of his blob with the other Amarr members just watching my claw warp off after the hit and run.
Thank you.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2011.01.02 17:36:00 -
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Except for the time when you blobed 2 afs sitting on auga gate with 3bcs, cruiser, hac, af and inty - with you sitting in vaga. Ofc you got only wolf and lost malediction and when hawk reshipped to nighthawk and warped to gate at range, whole your fleet surprisingly left kour for 15 mins with you whining "amarr blobed us, amarr blobed us again" and "we havent blobed your afs, because we were already in our ships before and you reshipped to too heavy ships."
And except for the time when you came back after 15mins and whole your gang /still 3bcs, cruiser, frigs and you still sitting in vaga/ gtfo right as drake landed on huo gate because it was obvious TRAP /i.e. there was cane on scan/... ofc with you spamming "they blobed, they blobed us."
But hey, your "Typical Amarr, too heavy" whineage made some of us go LOL, so thanks.
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Luminos
Durid is 4 Fite
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Posted - 2011.01.02 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy
so, basically, you want everyone to be paranoid and mistrusting of each other.
Welcome to EvE?
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Xzar Fyrarr
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.01.03 04:56:00 -
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Whenever I'm in lowsec and see a Minmatar Militia FW fleet, I always try to convo a least a few players in the fleet to let them know that I was in the militia and will be willing to help them out if they engage a blinky red[s] on gate or engage off of gate/station -if that ever happens-
Everything else I can't disagree with.
If it looks like a ship, smells like a ship, is a ship, it's a Trap.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.01.04 18:03:00 -
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The OP is pretty fail. The point of eve is to lose ships, either theirs or yours. How you do it is entirely up to you. Getting upset about it is pretty fail too. I think the best day I ever had in Eve was the day when I lost 6 ships in about 1 hour. If there's anything wrong with eve it's that people get far too upset about their virtual property, i.e. spaceships.
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Svjeza Roba
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Posted - 2011.01.04 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Svjeza Roba on 04/01/2011 21:14:17
Originally by: Isaac Avernas
I miss the "FW sucks, stop playing it" Guy.
Well....FW SUCKS TOP PLAYING IT:::
And Damar im not asking for 1 vs 1 anymore long time since i stopped solo roaming and getting killed by caldari or pirates blobs.Yep i live in Oicx and if you want to shoot at me come and try my boosting i get from CMS alt.
Sory for wrong char post ...PRAZNIMRAK here...
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Wambango
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Posted - 2011.01.05 19:31:00 -
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seems to me that the best way to avoid certain death is to not join fw in the first place. I have given up with it. I've given it 3 or 4 attempts and each time i give up and leave after a month or so. No decent fights ever present themselves. Any lone ship or small group is 99% of the time followed by a much larger group containing logistics and ecm and so the gank of your boat begins. As already mentioned, the fw fleets are usually badly organised, worsley run and incredibly boring. I have always preferred small scale pvp 1-6/7 people in gang. Its just not possible. Nobody is willing to put themselves in the position where the survival is unsertain and therefore they travel arounf in blobs as mindless drones ganking whatever they come across untill they meet a bigger gang and then they turn tail and run for their lives smacking as they do.
Really dissapointed as i expected much more from fw.
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