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Ranka Mei
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Posted - 2011.01.06 08:28:00 -
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500 mil is fine with me: if you want to go to war, it should cost you, and not just be a gratuitous griefing tool.
+1
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
Certified Household Sweeping Consulting
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Posted - 2011.01.06 12:33:00 -
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WARDEC PRICE IS TOO HIGH.
My corp only has like 3 million how we are going to kill people insulting now! This is not fair. I demand lower wardec prices.
Seriously. I don't want to buy isk from chinese just to wardec some griefers.
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Desigre
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.06 12:36:00 -
[33]
 Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn
WARDEC PRICE IS TOO HIGH.
My corp only has like 3 million how we are going to kill people insulting now! This is not fair. I demand lower wardec prices.
Seriously. I don't want to buy isk from chinese just to wardec some griefers.
Lol, you can buy your isk from ccp too, legally ;)
Besides highsec should not be wannabe-pvp-elitists heaven either. Im all for raising minimum wardeck fee to 50 mil/week + random chance concord official to screw you and you get concorded anyways... :P
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Pheusia
Gallente
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.01.06 12:43:00 -
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Whilst I agree that it should be a bigger commitment from the organisation that is declaring war, the numerous cheap loopholes that make it trivial to avoid a wardec also need to be closed. If you're going to advocate that Corp A has to spend 500 mill (or whatever) to dec corp B, then Corp A are entitled to actually get a war for their ISK.
Really, the whole wardec system needs to be reworked from scratch.
Signed,
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nugget906
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Posted - 2011.01.06 16:43:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Pheusia
Whilst I agree that it should be a bigger commitment from the organisation that is declaring war, the numerous cheap loopholes that make it trivial to avoid a wardec also need to be closed. If you're going to advocate that Corp A has to spend 500 mill (or whatever) to dec corp B, then Corp A are entitled to actually get a war for their ISK.
Really, the whole wardec system needs to be reworked from scratch.
Declare a war on pvp corp and you will get it. Dec a mining corp and you won't, either members leave or you get to pop a few barges, neither of which constitutes a war.
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Vheri Kai'or
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Posted - 2011.01.06 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: CommanderData211
Even though there is no mechanic in place to facilitate the campaign, weeks and sometimes months are spent in the planning and execution of them. Alliances and coalitions plan out cost effectiveness VS. risk involved.
and that there is the fundamental misunderstanding that people who dont leave rens, amarr, jita or dodixie have regarding wars and pvp. cost effectiveness? what?
again, its about enjoyment. griefers enjoy the game a certain way, carebears enjoy it a different way. you, and the others supporting this hilarious proposal, are arrogant and conceited to think yours is any more "right" a way to play than the pirates or the griefers.
i know its a tired old cliche, but if you cannot take the heat, if you cant cope with the fact that undocking is implicitely agreeing to lose your ship, then get the **** back to WoW
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2011.01.07 02:13:00 -
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500mil for corp on corp might be too much, but if alliance is involved then yes.
currently wardecs are broken because its just about grief nothing else then that.
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Erik Finnegan
Polytechnique Gallenteenne
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Posted - 2011.01.08 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: Erik Finnegan on 08/01/2011 22:18:53
linkified links
Don't tweak war decs - FIX'em
Original proposal ( locked ) : http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=782220
CSM wiki page : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/War-dec_mechanics_%28CSM%29
...and, while at it, make a viable bounty hunter profession ( aka tradable kill-rights ) : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bountyhunting_Improvements_%28CSM%29 |
Reaver Glitterstim
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Posted - 2011.01.08 22:30:00 -
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Perhaps the price should be based on how many members are in the corp that is declaring war. That way larger corps have to pay more.
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Goose99
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Posted - 2011.01.08 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Reaver Glitterstim
Perhaps the price should be based on how many members are in the corp that is declaring war. That way larger corps have to pay more.
Not a good idea. All the griefer corps are already 3 man corps supported by countless neut-rr, who are in other 3 man corps. They are actually one large corp which use one vent/ts, splintered into many small ones. This is to maximize cheap 2-mil decs.
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