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Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.09 16:44:00 - [1] Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 09/01/2011 16:45:08 Hi. If I run missions in the low sec or 0.0 but in a deadspace, can I be scanned and ambushed by player pirates while running missions? Also, are missions individual game instance that uninvited guests cannot disturb your game? Thanks. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Go vote! Put voice for silent majority. LOVE PVP, HATE grief

ISD Etetia ISD STAR	Posted - 2011.01.09 16:46:00 - [2] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Hi. If I run missions in the low sec or 0.0 but in a deadspace, can I be scanned and ambushed by player pirates while running missions? Yes Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Also, are missions individual game instance that uninvited guests cannot destroy your game? No, They're not. You can be scanned down, and if you are in low sec, players can engage you without concord retalliation.

Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.09 16:47:00 - [3] Thank you, Etetia. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Go vote! Put voice for silent majority. LOVE PVP, HATE grief
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.09 16:49:00 - [4] I forgot to ask this earlier, is it easy for people to scan you while you run missions and ambush you? --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Go vote! Put voice for silent majority. LOVE PVP, HATE grief
Lutz Major	Posted - 2011.01.09 17:14:00 - [5] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I forgot to ask this earlier, is it easy for people to scan you while you run missions and ambush you? You can be tracked down in under a minute BUT there are usually more signatures in one system which can stall the scanner from specifically finding you.
rofflesausage	Posted - 2011.01.09 18:27:00 - [6] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Also, are missions individual game instance that uninvited guests cannot disturb your game? Thanks. It's worth pointing out here that Eve has no 'instances'. We're all in the same universe / server and anyone can find and attack someone else. The only 'safe' place is docked in station.
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2011.01.09 18:28:00 - [7] You need to run all the career agent missions. The exploration agent will teach you how to use Core Scanner Probes. Combat Scanner Probes work the same way - they'll just pick up ships as well as the other signatures. If your character has already run the missions with one set of agents - you could either petition a GM to reset them for you or go to another school where they've not been run. I've got a list of schools in my sig though the specific agents list is very obsolete - but most of the schools are there. If your character has already run them for all the Caldari agents you might try the Amarr. If you don't care about maintaining your faction standings with the Caldari and Amarr - you can also run them with the Gallente and Minmatar schools. Even this won't hurt much as long as you don't go around killing Gallente & Minmatar ships. This is the scanning tutorial video created by CCP. CCP Scanning Tutorial Video Be aware that those who do this a lot will be much better at it than you are. In High Sec - you really aren't going to have much of a problem as the only people who routinely scan there are Ninja Salvagers - and they are after Level IV Mission runners - which if you are doing that means YOU. In Lo Sec and 0.0 ... your chances of being attacked are greater but it all has to do with the number of people who know how to scan rather than the nature of the space you are in. At one point in time - Mission Space provided some protection - but this was changed and it no longer does. Essentially - if you go down to Lo Sec or 0.0 you need to be ready to either fight them or flee. Read the Lo Sec Survival Guides and bring a cloak. Even a cheap cloak can work wonders. Orbiting vs. Kiting Faction Schools
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.09 21:52:00 - [8] Thank you, you are all helpful! --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Go vote! Put voice for silent majority. LOVE PVP, HATE grief
Deandra Walran	Posted - 2011.01.10 00:04:00 - [9] The best advise that anyone could give you about doing missions and sites in low sec is: DON'T Here are the reasons: You are in a PvE fit ship. PvE ships DIAF very quicky v PvP ships. Those that live in low sec WILL descend upon you like a pack of starving, rabid wolves. They may even turn on each other (after you are podded) to fight over that civilian shield booster that dropped from your ship. If you want to go to low sec, bring a quite few friends (or a fleet from EVE University) they will act like lights do to roaches.
Kahega Amielden T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.01.10 01:42:00 - [10] Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 10/01/2011 01:41:50 Quote: You are in a PvE fit ship. PvE ships DIAF very quicky v PvP ships. Those that live in low sec WILL descend upon you like a pack of starving, rabid wolves. They may even turn on each other (after you are podded) to fight over that civilian shield booster that dropped from your ship. Someone is bad at lowsec. OP: People CAN scan you down in lowsec. However, you can see them coming well before they arrive. If you set the directional scanner to max range (Comes out to about 14.3 AU) and 360 degrees, and turn off your overview settings, you can actually see scanner probes. By periodically checking this, you can see if there are any probes out looking for you (Combat Scanner Probe or Sisters Combat Scanner Probe). Naturally, you want to find a relatively quiet area. Use the starmap to find areas that have relatively low populations. As a general rule, the random pockets of lowsec are pretty quiet, and it's the lowsec between major empires (which mostly consist of FW regions) that contain a lot of hostiles.
Deandra Walran	Posted - 2011.01.10 01:48:00 - [11] Edited by: Deandra Walran on 10/01/2011 01:51:21 Originally by: Kahega Amielden Someone is bad at lowsec. OP: People CAN scan you down in lowsec. However, you can see them coming well before they arrive. If you set the directional scanner to max range (Comes out to about 14.3 AU) and 360 degrees, and turn off your overview settings, you can actually see scanner probes. By periodically checking this, you can see if there are any probes out looking for you (Combat Scanner Probe or Sisters Combat Scanner Probe). I might be bad at low sec, but you are definately bad at EVE! You no longer need to turn off the overview settings. Infact you can, using totally ingame methods, have an overview setting for only scan probes. And back to the OP: The only people in this thread that are encouraging you to go to low sec are the roaches, scum, and degenerates that will rip your soul to peices. Stay out of low sec. The risks far outweigh the rewards. Stay in high sec, go to null sec, or live in a WH.
Kahega Amielden T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.01.10 02:34:00 - [12] Quote: I might be bad at low sec, but you are definately bad at EVE! You no longer need to turn off the overview settings. Infact you can, using totally ingame methods, have an overview setting for only scan probes. Why bother? Quote: And back to the OP: The only people in this thread that are encouraging you to go to low sec are the roaches, scum, and degenerates that will rip your soul to peices. Not the brightest, are you?
Deandra Walran	Posted - 2011.01.10 02:43:00 - [13] Originally by: Kahega Amielden Not the brightest, are you? Why, are you trying to pick me up?
Culmen Caldari Blood Phage Syndicate Syndicate.	Posted - 2011.01.10 03:33:00 - [14] Originally by: Kahega Amielden Quote: And back to the OP: The only people in this thread that are encouraging you to go to low sec are the roaches, scum, and degenerates that will rip your soul to peices. Not the brightest, are you? Considering Jenny is 2004 player and a known forum prostitute. I'd say she's rather dim. and further more why do i even need a sig?
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2011.01.10 05:44:00 - [15] As I've mentioned on previous occasions ... it's like this ... You go down to Lo Sec for a challenge. If you want a challenge - then go on down there. If you want to make money - stay in Hi Sec. Unless you belong to a Lo Sec Corp - which is different - there's nothing down in Lo Sec that is worth the trouble of getting it. Just stay in Hi Sec - make more money by not having to look over your shoulder every 15 seconds - and buy whatever it was you wanted in Lo Sec. But - again - if you want a challenge - go on down there. If you like it - you may even stay. Orbiting vs. Kiting Faction Schools
Pan Dora Caldari Organization for Nuclear Research	Posted - 2011.01.10 15:51:00 - [16] Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk If you are risk averse - stay in high Sec. Fixed. LOw-sec its overall more lucrative than high-sec if you know a few tricks like: -Use directional scanner -watch local -bsic real life social skills Null-sec (both K and W space) its even better. Now the catch is: you need to use your brain more than to run lvl4s in motsu or wage 0,01 isk war in jita. _ I like to play this game because it make my in-game actions and archievments to mean something in-game.
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2011.01.10 20:20:00 - [17] Originally by: Pan Dora Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk If you are risk averse - stay in high Sec. Fixed. LOw-sec its overall more lucrative than high-sec if you know a few tricks like: -Use directional scanner -watch local -bsic real life social skills Null-sec (both K and W space) its even better. Now the catch is: you need to use your brain more than to run lvl4s in motsu or wage 0,01 isk war in jita. Let's see now ... You didn't "fix" my post - you just said something yourself and attributed it to me. That makes you a liar. Don't lie. If you have something to say - just say it in your own words. "Fixing" someone elses post isn't clever. Maybe it was clever the first several million times it was done - but since then it's just been lame. Only lame people do it. Don't be lame. You've got a brain - just use it and use your own words - without attributing them to someone else. And - what I said originally is correct. Unless you have the support of a Lo Sec Corporation - there is nothing in Lo Sec worth all the trouble (i.e. doing exactly what you said). It's a pain in the ass. Every time someone comes along - you have to break off what you're doing and deal with them. In the time and ships you will inevitably lose - you could be making more in Hi Sec - and just buy whatever it was you went down to Lo Sec for. The same is true for 0.0 and W-Hole space (which of course is 0.0). If you go in there by yourself with no support - someone who does have support will just come along and blow you up. Lo Sec and 0.0 are not for individuals - they are for corporations. Unless - those individuals want a challenge. In the risk vs. reward equation - the reward of Lo Sec and 0.0 for the individual - is not worth the risk. It also isn't worth all the crap you have to do to survive if all you want to do is mine some rocks or run some missions. I've done it. I've mined in Lo Sec and run missions in Lo Sec ... without losing any ships ... but it is a giant pain in the ass. If someone does want to go down there for the challenge here's a guide on how to do it: Kessiaan's Lo Sec Survival Guide for Rookies There's also a guide on how the people looking for you do it - which is informative to read and includes some good links: Kahega's Ninja Salvaging Guide. You can have fun down in Lo Sec and in 0.0 eluding people who want to blow you up - but - all that takes time and effort - which if all you want is to make money - is best done in Hi Sec. It isn't about being Risk Averse - it's about calculating the risk vs. reward - and accomplishing your goals. If your goal is to make money - then stay in Hi Sec. If your goal is to learn something about a large chunk of the EVE map and challenge yourself to accomplish things despite the people trying to blow you up - then get in a cheap ship you can afford to lose, bring a cloak - and go on down to Lo Sec and give it a try. Just be clear about what you are doing and why you are doing it. Now ... if you do go down to Lo Sec or 0.0 and spend some time there - the skills you pick up will enhance your ability to make money down there. Whether that will ever equal the same amount of money you could have made in Hi Sec with the same amount of time and effort ... probably depends on the individual - but - it is certainly a lot easier to make money in Hi Sec. Maybe - in the 4 years Pan Dora's been playing "she" has learned how to make some money there without getting blown up all the time. What factor her corporation plays in that I don't know. But being part of a Lo Sec Corporation - or one that goes on Lo Sec ops - or - is part of a 0.0 Alliance (which this one isn't apparently) makes all the difference in the world. So, for any new people thinking of going down to Lo Sec - learn about it first. Orbiting vs. Kiting Faction Schools
Tau Cabalander Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.10 20:31:00 - [18] I do the odd mission in lowsec using an unprobeable ship (T3 Tengu), though I have to avoid anything that inflates the sig radius (like fury missiles or being target painted by NPC). In general, most of lowsec is empty, or very low population. It is not unusual to be the only person in a lowsec system.
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2011.01.10 21:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Tau Cabalander I do the odd mission in lowsec using an unprobeable ship (T3 Tengu), though I have to avoid anything that inflates the sig radius (like fury missiles or being target painted by NPC). In general, most of lowsec is empty, or very low population. It is not unusual to be the only person in a lowsec system. Yes. And if you're going down to Lo Sec and have a T3 Tengu to do it in - that's the way to do it. Most rookies don't have a Tengu ... but they can bring a cloak. That's not that hard to fit and what I did. The thing is - if you're going to stay down there any amount of time - someone may come along and they may come after you. The people who came after me - figured out I had a cloak - and went on about their business - but I had to stop what I was doing, warp to a safe spot and then wait until they figured that out. If you're running a mission - you want to warp to your safe spot - BEFORE - they can figure out where you ship is. They can't scan down the mission space - but they can scan down YOU. But ... to be sure they don't find you while your in your mission - if anyone comes on local - it's safest to warp to your safe spot and cloak up. If they do find your mission space - then they can just camp it - and possibly secure a mission object if there is one ... and then you get to play games with them about that ... So - you really don't want them finding your mission space - which means ... going early rather than leaving late for your safe spot. Remember - even though most places in 0.0 and Lo Sec are unoccupied - the map will show Pilots in space - and someone looking to find someone to attack - can look at that map too and see - you. So ... even though there may not be anyone in there to begin with ... once you show up ... your very presence may draw them. Thus ... Lo Sec Mission Running ... 1) You get the mission - see that it goes into Lo Sec - LOOK AT YOUR MAP AND SEE THAT IT'S QUIET - and decide - what the hell I'll go. 2) You fit a cloak - which costs you a high slot and some PG/CPU. 3) You start warping through the gates to get there. If the gate is camped you need to make a decision about a) fighting your way through; b) trying to warp before they scram/disrupt you; c) use your cloak and try to slow boat your way along until they go away or you've got a good chance of warping somewhere that's away from them. 4) You get to your mission system - and have no safe spots - so you start warping around between the various warpable points in the system, dropping book marks as you go between celestials. Then - you warp back to your book marks and warp to other book marks you made, dropping MORE book marks as you go. Here - you want to open up your People and Places/Places tab and select Add Bookmark right way - while having the system map up. Then you want to hit Enter just BEFORE you get to the point you want to place your bookmark at. Try to get your book marks as far away from any celestials as you can. The DScan can pick you up out to almost 15AU - so you don't want to be on their DScan. Nor do you want to be just sitting on line between two celestials. Here - if you've got probes (another high slot lost & more PG & CPU) then you can scan for various signatures you can bookmark. You can use these signatures to create book marks the same way you did with the celestials. You don't want to be ON the signature ... they can scan that too but warping between two book marks you made warping to signatures - you can put one in between. 5) OK! You've got your Safe Spots made and the hard part is done! Now all you have to do is run the mission! 6) Warp to your mission - and start running it - but keep an eye on local. If anyone comes into your system - warp to a safe spot and cloak up before they can scan down your mission space. Stay there until they go away - then go back to your mission. 7) On completing your mission - get out and turn it in. Orbiting vs. Kiting Faction Schools
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2011.01.10 22:31:00 - [20] Just a few more things I didn't have room for ... 1) In making all those bookmarks above - if you are actually running missions for a Lo Sec agent - then once you've got the bookmarks made for a system you'll only need to make new ones if you think some of the old ones have been compromised. The thing there is - you'll still have to warp out to those bookmarks and just sit there whenever anyone comes along ... unless you want to fight them ... but then fighting them ... isn't going to get that mission run if that was your original intent. 2) When you're warping about in Lo Sec or 0.0 ... Warping to Zero is not a good idea. You don't know what's going to be there when you get there - and it may be cloaked. If you're just making book marks - you wanted the book mark between the place you're warping to and the place you were warping from ... so - unless it's one of you're own book marks - you've no need to Warp to Zero. 3) One problem with warping to signatures in WH space is that those sleeper sentry guns have a really long range and they really hurt ... especially if you're in some crappy little frigate just going around making book marks ... So - don't warp to zero and ... you may well be better of cloaking up and slow boating away than trying to immediately warp off ... sorry but I don't remember the response time on those guns ... 4) Which brings up another point - when warping to signatures and celestials you want to know where you're warping to next before you get to the spot your warping to. Don't hang around - you've already dropped your book mark - so just warp on to the next spot. Have a plan before you start warping about. Sure, warp in and quickly create a few safe spots off the lines between celestials - then - just sit there with that cloak on - looking at your system map and planning what you're going to do. 5) If you have probes - you have to uncloak to launch them - but - you can dump them all at one book mark - warp to another one - and then cloak before controlling them. You can't launch a probe while cloaked - but you can do your scans and move them around. So ... here's a whole bunch of stuff that you can do to help yourself survive in hostile space - but again - ask yourself ... "Do I really want to go through all that just so I can run a mission or mine some rocks?" I did it for a while ... and finally decided that ... since I did need to make some money ... I needed to be trying to make my money in Hi Sec where I didn't have to do all that crap. Now ... I'm not a big expert on WH space ... at all and less so about 0.0. I'm also not a Lo Sec Denizen. So - if there's any credit to be had for any of the ideas mentioned above - that credit mostly goes to the other people who've written guides because, while I may have used their ideas ... I didn't think them up. If anyone has any improvements, suggestions or corrections on any of the above - please add them and help educate the new people where I've let them down. . Orbiting vs. Kiting Faction Schools
Idicious Lightbane Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.01.11 03:14:00 - [21] Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk As I've mentioned on previous occasions ... it's like this ... You go down to Lo Sec for a challenge. If you want a challenge - then go on down there. If you want to make money - stay in Hi Sec. Unless you belong to a Lo Sec Corp - which is different - there's nothing down in Lo Sec that is worth the trouble of getting it. Just stay in Hi Sec - make more money by not having to look over your shoulder every 15 seconds - and buy whatever it was you wanted in Lo Sec. But - again - if you want a challenge - go on down there. If you like it - you may even stay. Join FW Learn how to survive in low-sec Grind standing for lvl 4 FW missions Research the LP store a bit ????? Make FAR FAR greater profits than highsec lvl4's ever will (just as a hint, 200 mil/hour is easily done even with interference from others, 300 mil/hour is fairly doable)
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2011.01.11 05:49:00 - [22] Originally by: Idicious Lightbane Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk As I've mentioned on previous occasions ... it's like this ... You go down to Lo Sec for a challenge. If you want a challenge - then go on down there. If you want to make money - stay in Hi Sec. Unless you belong to a Lo Sec Corp - which is different - there's nothing down in Lo Sec that is worth the trouble of getting it. Just stay in Hi Sec - make more money by not having to look over your shoulder every 15 seconds - and buy whatever it was you wanted in Lo Sec. But - again - if you want a challenge - go on down there. If you like it - you may even stay. Join FW Learn how to survive in low-sec Grind standing for lvl 4 FW missions Research the LP store a bit ????? Make FAR FAR greater profits than highsec lvl4's ever will (just as a hint, 200 mil/hour is easily done even with interference from others, 300 mil/hour is fairly doable) Exactly - then you aren't down there by yourself - and - you're already geared up towards PVP. The thing is - you aren't in FW to make money. Your in FW to go fight people and they've set things up to provide you with enough of an income for you to afford to do it. . Orbiting vs. Kiting Faction Schools
Pan Dora Caldari Organization for Nuclear Research	Posted - 2011.01.11 10:49:00 - [23] [ Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk stuff Toshiro, you may be old enough to be my father...but you arent. So dont patronize me. Calling someone that disagree a liar dont fit in your usually polite manners. When I 'fixed' the phrase I just meant to say that its the way I see things. Cleary different that your point of view. It may not be that clever but for sure its pratical to just change a couple words in a quotation to show how much one disagree with quoted point of view. So, if that offended you, that was not what I had in mind. Apologizes. Hope to get back to disagreeing without any hurt feelings . _ I like to play this game because it make my in-game actions and archievments to mean something in-game.
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2011.01.11 21:54:00 - [24] Originally by: Pan Dora [ Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk stuff Toshiro, you may be old enough to be my father...but you arent. So dont patronize me. Calling someone that disagree a liar dont fit in your usually polite manners. When I 'fixed' the phrase I just meant to say that its the way I see things. Cleary different that your point of view. It may not be that clever but for sure its pratical to just change a couple words in a quotation to show how much one disagree with quoted point of view. So, if that offended you, that was not what I had in mind. Apologizes. Hope to get back to disagreeing without any hurt feelings . No hurt feelings. I just don't like the concept of "fixing" what someone else said. For one thing - someone else, coming along (such as myself reading posts by other people) doesn't actually know what they're talking about - and I have to go find the original - and compare it to the "fixed" version to figure out what was said. Unless I really care - I don't bother and simply ignore whatever the person "fixing" the other persons post has said. If they can't be bothered to make it clear what they are saying in response to what the other person did say - I can't be bothered to pay any attention to the point they are trying to make. As for being a liar - I knew that wasn't your intent - but I was pointing out that you WERE doing so by taking someone elses words and marking them up - while still leaving them within a Quote attributed to them. Leaving it within the block attributed to them - is saying that this was what they said - when it isn't what they said. That is lying - even if it wasn't your intent. If you want to just change their words to express your opinion - then just copy them and paste them into the body of text YOU are writing and make your changes there. There's nothing wrong with that and the use of the same phraseology has the desired irony. But - don't change their words up in the quote where, unless someone goes back to check the original - it isn't always clear what the person being quoted actually said. As to being patronizing ... yeah ... I was being patronizing but I come from a back ground where doing what you did is seriously wrong - and has cost people their jobs (not because of postings on the internet but actual plagiarism). If it is common place on the internet for a lot of children to try and be clever at each others expense ... wellll ... that type of behavior warrants being patronized. It is childish. The simple cure for that is - don't do it. But - take this as it was meant. There are thousands of childish posters on these forums and I'm sure as hell not going to bother to try and correct them all. If your posts hadn't garnered some amount of my respect - I may have just dismissed you as a child and not bothered to point out what you were doing or devoted more than two lines to the effort. People who have earned a certain amount of respect - are held to higher standards by their peers. . Orbiting vs. Kiting Faction Schools
Cathy Drall Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2011.01.12 12:13:00 - [25] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Hi. If I run missions in the low sec or 0.0 but in a deadspace, can I be scanned and ambushed by player pirates while running missions? Also, are missions individual game instance that uninvited guests cannot disturb your game? I forgot to ask this earlier, is it easy for people to scan you while you run missions and ambush you? Lowsec is usually not densely populated and even if there's people in local they may well be people who have a POS in lowsec, other missioners, industrialists transporting stuff .. That said, I did a fair share of missions in lowsec, though mostly couriers with a frigate or destroyer. I usually fit a few nanos - the gate campers can't target and lock you fast enough to prevent you from warping off so it's reasonably safe. Especially as pirate's frigates can't tank the gate/station guns they're not used to camp gates and bigger ships have far longer locking times. Combat missions in lowsec are more tricky. Even if you can't be scanned, they can always scan your wrecks. I did perhaps a dozen combat missions in lowsec (didn't want to wait for the annoying 4-hour timer) and got scanned out a few times. Usually they don't drop on top of you so if you're looking at the overview you can get out in time. But as Toshiro said, if you haven't finished your objectives it's just a waste of time to have to wait until the campers are gone. So if you are sent to lowsc by a highsec agent. I wouldn't bother unless it's almost risk free. I never lost a ship in lowsec but it's a matter of time before I will.
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2011.01.12 13:55:00 - [26] Scan Probes won't pic up wrecks. They have to pick up your ship. You can go through an extremely tedious process ... if you have enough bookmarks ... to find things with your DScan but ... most people simply aren't willing to do that. Yeah. Courier Missions in a frigate - especially one with a cloak - aren't that bad because all you have to do is get into warp but ... combat missions are tougher though for the reasons stated. Orbiting vs. Kiting Faction Schools
Xi 'xar	Posted - 2011.01.13 12:15:00 - [27] As to your original question - yes. They can and quite likely will come and shoot you. However, considering the debate that has now sprung up, I recommend that you go to lowsec andt ry it out. If you don't like it, leave. If you like it, stay. Here are some rules / tips for being in lowsec: 1. Insure your ships. 2. Update your clone. 3. Fly without expensive implants. 4. Someone will likely come and try and kill you. 5. Take some risks - its more fun that way. The endless debate about whether or not lowsec is worth it in terms or risk / reward is only answered by your own personal experience. Good luck.
Idicious Lightbane Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.01.13 16:03:00 - [28] I'll add to the person above me: Make it a habbit to spam your directional scanner every few seconds if other people are in system, if you're in a mission pocket have an overview tab that only shows scan probes, after targetting the rats switch to that overview tab, have d-scan open, set it to 360 degrees scan on max range (just type 99999999999999999 or so and hit enter, will automaticly set to highest value) and make sure Use active overview settings is checked. Just hit scan while doing it every few seconds if others are in system, if you find Core scanner probes on it (probes will be the only thing that will show up on scan then) just warp out and safe up till they get bored and move on.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.14 22:57:00 - [29] Thank you to all replies. The information is very helpful. However, I am at a loss on what to believe now. Is it really hard to run missions in low secs because everyone can easily find you and kill you as some posters have potrayed? One poster said it best, others who say it is easy have only one interest i.e. to kill you. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Go vote! Put voice for silent majority. LOVE PVP, HATE grief
Jennifer Starling Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.14 23:35:00 - [30] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Thank you to all replies. The information is very helpful. However, I am at a loss on what to believe now. Is it really hard to run missions in low secs because everyone can easily find you and kill you as some posters have potrayed? One poster said it best, others who say it is easy have only one interest i.e. to kill you. Scanning and finding you isn't very hard. It's just that there's hardly anyone in lowsec and those around aren't always pirates looking for prey. If you want to avoid the risk then don't do it - and the bigger your ship, the easier they can catch you. It's exciting to get out just in time, though. It definitely adds some flavour to missioning.

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