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Alpheias
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Posted - 2012.08.16 05:16:00 -
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Forum Harlot wrote:Diesel47 wrote:Competitive scenes ruin games IMO, Why?
I partially agree with Diesel47. Unless the game is built up around the e-sports scene, you end up with something where the "PVP" is just a wasted time that the developers could have used to improve the rest of the game with.
I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Forum Harlot
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.16 05:18:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Forum Harlot wrote:Diesel47 wrote:Competitive scenes ruin games IMO, Why? I partially agree with Diesel47. Unless the game is built up around the e-sports scene, you end up with something where the "PVP" is just a wasted time that the developers could have used to improve the rest of the game with.
How does this translate into "Competitive scenes ruin games"? |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.16 05:26:00 -
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They focus on twitch based games for the most part. Thankfully EVE will never go to the Olympics, or most any mmo for that matter. Pro = uninteresting. I'd rather watch a chess match. Not dissing chess :) I odn;t know how it would ruin them though... or at what level. Ruined socially maybe? or hack flood? |

Cyonsiaros StrawHat
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.16 05:45:00 -
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Post was re-written. The first 5 pages of this thread have been removed with directions to the new thread which is in the appropriate forum. This will better explain the idea I hope. Have a look- if the formatting is still bad - please let me know |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.16 05:53:00 -
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Cyonsiaros StrawHat wrote:Post was re-written. The first 5 pages of this thread have been removed with directions to the new thread which is in the appropriate forum. This will better explain the idea I hope. Have a look- if the formatting is still bad - please let me know Doesnt make you any less of a pompous RMTer that thinks he knows what's best for a 9 year old game that's been doing just fine without you.
Please go back to whatever games it was you were making a living in and leave EVE alone. |

Webvan
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Posted - 2012.08.16 06:04:00 -
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You know, the further away from pro-gaming, the better. I'd like to see the genre depopulate to pre-wow numbers. All it did was bring popular fail to a genre rehashed into some Frankencasual monster. Few games left focusing on the original hardocore style of the classic genre. Pro gaming and all the media attention needs to stick to... whatever they are following today, the craze, don't need more fail groups walking on my lawn... and their dogs crapping on it.
Oh and btw, Cyo, no matter what you do you're goin to get trolled here :) welcome to EVE forums. |

Alpheias
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Posted - 2012.08.16 06:08:00 -
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Forum Harlot wrote:Alpheias wrote:Forum Harlot wrote:Diesel47 wrote:Competitive scenes ruin games IMO, Why? I partially agree with Diesel47. Unless the game is built up around the e-sports scene, you end up with something where the "PVP" is just a wasted time that the developers could have used to improve the rest of the game with. How does this translate into "Competitive scenes ruin games"?
Because not all games translates well into being competitive. No matter how much the developer wants it to be. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

Forum Harlot
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Posted - 2012.08.16 06:48:00 -
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Alpheias wrote: Because not all games translates well into being competitive. No matter how much the developer wants it to be.
A competitive scene is usually a result of a game that supports competitive play to begin with; that's how the scene grows. Rarely have I ever seen a game being ruined by (or developed exclusively towards) a competitive scene. Can you give any examples where this has happened? |

Alpheias
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Posted - 2012.08.16 07:16:00 -
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Forum Harlot wrote:Alpheias wrote: Because not all games translates well into being competitive. No matter how much the developer wants it to be.
A competitive scene is usually a result of a game that supports competitive play to begin with; that's how the scene grows. Rarely have I ever seen a game being ruined by (or developed exclusively towards) a competitive scene. Can you give any examples where this has happened?
This is my personal opinion, of course. But I'd say Starcraft 2.
Back in the '90, Blizzard games were all very story driven and I would argue that is the main reason why people played Diablo and Warcraft. Multiplayer was more of a added feature that allowed you and your friends to have some fun together.
Starcraft came out. I remember it more for its story than the multiplayer. Diablo 2 came out. I remember it more for its story than the multiplayer. Warcraft 3 came out. Same thing there. Dota happened, a mod I enjoyed immensely.
Skip forward to Starcraft 2. What happened to story? Was story sacrificed to have competitive multiplayer?
As I said, all this is my personal opinion and while I am not denying the success that Warcraft 3 and Starcraft has had in the scene, I don't think they ever translated well unlike Starcraft 2 that was built around it. What happened in Korea was purely incidental, it could have been Tetris that became the "national e-sport". I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |

smokess
Selective Hearing Nearly Feared
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Posted - 2012.08.16 07:46:00 -
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So, basically, you tried to make money from Eve by selling ISK, decided the ISK>$ conversion wasn't in your favour and you are now trying to argue for Eve to be changed so that you can make a living out of playing the game.
O....k....
With regards to your comment about the number of bots in the game; CCP recently used the ban hammer to nuke a few thousand of them. |
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