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Gibbo5771	Posted - 2011.01.18 12:48:00 - [1] Can I finally have a black character? I am African American in RL and would like to reflect my self image onto my character, is this possible? I have been inactive for past 2 months or so, havent tested a thing lol
Wacktopia Dark Side Of The Womb	Posted - 2011.01.18 12:50:00 - [2] You can and always could but only by playing Minmattar > Brutor. :)
Jennifer Starling Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.18 12:51:00 - [3] I don't know how you look like but I think the answer is yes.
Hemp Invader Aliastra	Posted - 2011.01.18 12:52:00 - [4] You can have black skin if you are playing brutor. If you're not, you're going to have to settle for white. Don't you like white? Are you some kind of racist?
Crystal Cornelious	Posted - 2011.01.18 13:00:00 - [5] Originally by: Hemp Invader You can have black skin if you are playing brutor. If you're not, you're going to have to settle for white. Don't you like white? Are you some kind of racist? Bit shortsighted, if not an ignorant and blunt statement. I'm pretty sure the roles were reversed if one could only create a black character, or only a male character. Every player should have a chance to create a digital alter-ego, or representation of themselves, and although the OP's post is hardly racist, yours reeks of it with false accusations (or at least an insinuation).
Template 1	Posted - 2011.01.18 13:00:00 - [6] Seems a little unfair that you have to play as a minmatar slave race to be black.
Irida Mershkov Gallente The Reformed Chaos Theory Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.18 13:01:00 - [7] Originally by: Jennifer Starling I don't know how you look like but I think the answer is yes. Race changer required. CCP pls giv
Kirtaama Oinnatsu	Posted - 2011.01.18 13:02:00 - [8] Originally by: Template 1 Seems a little unfair that you have to play as a minmatar slave race to be black. The playable minmatar are not the enslaved ones... and it's about lore. Not catering to player wishes. It's the same reason my caldari could not have a decent complexion or darker hair.
Kyo Haku Minmatar Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2011.01.18 13:03:00 - [9] Originally by: Crystal Cornelious Originally by: Hemp Invader You can have black skin if you are playing brutor. If you're not, you're going to have to settle for white. Don't you like white? Are you some kind of racist? Bit shortsighted, if not an ignorant and blunt statement. I'm pretty sure the roles were reversed if one could only create a black character, or only a male character. Every player should have a chance to create a digital alter-ego, or representation of themselves, and although the OP's post is hardly racist, yours reeks of it with false accusations (or at least an insinuation). Someone has a hard time getting sarcasm... -- "Far be it from me to stand in judgment. I prefer to sit." -Stephen Colbert
Keta Fraal Nul and Booleans	Posted - 2011.01.18 13:24:00 - [10] Originally by: Kyo Haku Originally by: Crystal Cornelious Originally by: Hemp Invader You can have black skin if you are playing brutor. If you're not, you're going to have to settle for white. Don't you like white? Are you some kind of racist? Bit shortsighted, if not an ignorant and blunt statement. I'm pretty sure the roles were reversed if one could only create a black character, or only a male character. Every player should have a chance to create a digital alter-ego, or representation of themselves, and although the OP's post is hardly racist, yours reeks of it with false accusations (or at least an insinuation). Someone has a hard time getting sarcasm... Hmmm.. Time for a haiku. Sarcasm spoken in a fleeting moment. This feather smells. --------------------------------------- Completely ignore any whining that is not toilet orientated.

Rek Seven Gallente Guy Fawkes Trust Fund	Posted - 2011.01.18 13:25:00 - [11] Edited by: Rek Seven on 18/01/2011 13:26:15 Originally by: Kirtaama Oinnatsu Originally by: Template 1 Seems a little unfair that you have to play as a minmatar slave race to be black. The playable minmatar are not the enslaved ones... and it's about lore. Not catering to player wishes. It's the same reason my caldari could not have a decent complexion or darker hair. Obviously the playable Minmatar are not slaves but they are part of a race where a third of the people are enslaved. So the insult remains... If you want to play as a black character, you must choose to be part of a slave race. Has your issue with the caldari complexion and hair colour been changed with the new character creator?
Gibbo5771	Posted - 2011.01.18 13:36:00 - [12] I just want a black character, I am amarr not minmatar, so I have to be white I guess. lol@ the slave thing btw, Inappropriate text removed as per the forum rules. StevieSG.
Doddy Burning Vendetta	Posted - 2011.01.18 13:45:00 - [13] Originally by: Rek Seven Edited by: Rek Seven on 18/01/2011 13:26:15 Originally by: Kirtaama Oinnatsu Originally by: Template 1 Seems a little unfair that you have to play as a minmatar slave race to be black. The playable minmatar are not the enslaved ones... and it's about lore. Not catering to player wishes. It's the same reason my caldari could not have a decent complexion or darker hair. Obviously the playable Minmatar are not slaves but they are part of a race where a third of the people are enslaved. So the insult remains... If you want to play as a black character, you must choose to be part of a slave race. Has your issue with the caldari complexion and hair colour been changed with the new character creator? If all Minmatar were black i would say you have a point, but they aren't. White minmatar and black minmatar are all slaves together after all. There are obvious fluff reasons why you can't have black caldari etc. They kinda ruined that by introducing an "asian" bloodline to each faction though (what a coincidence!). Trying to break into east asia market beats any fluff concerns ...
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Spikes Chop Shop	Posted - 2011.01.18 14:08:00 - [14] Originally by: Doddy ... White minmatar and black minmatar are all slaves together after all. ... WERE slaves. this is a very important distinction. Minmatar are free people by their own hand. ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon."
Kveita	Posted - 2011.01.18 14:14:00 - [15] Originally by: Rek Seven Obviously the playable Minmatar are not slaves but they are part of a race where a third of the people are enslaved. So the insult remains... If you want to play as a black character, you must choose to be part of a slave race. No, the insult is the claim that some African Americans have to monopoly on slave ancestry. You do not have to go very far back in time to find a predominantly white Europe where the larger part of the population was enslaved one way or another, so please get your head out of your ass, and take your whining and self pity elsewhere.
ivar R'dhak	Posted - 2011.01.18 14:24:00 - [16] Jeebus H. Christ, why can¦t you PC fanatics have your own Internet so that you can leave us normal "racists" unmolested with your contrived grievances. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Julien Brellier	Posted - 2011.01.18 14:51:00 - [17] Never mind about black or white!!! The real question is....KAN WE HAZ TAILZ SO WII KAN BE TEH FURRIEZ?
Rek Seven Gallente Guy Fawkes Trust Fund	Posted - 2011.01.18 14:51:00 - [18] Originally by: Kveita Originally by: Rek Seven Obviously the playable Minmatar are not slaves but they are part of a race where a third of the people are enslaved. So the insult remains... If you want to play as a black character, you must choose to be part of a slave race. No, the insult is the claim that some African Americans have to monopoly on slave ancestry. You do not have to go very far back in time to find a predominantly white Europe where the larger part of the population was enslaved one way or another, so please get your head out of your ass, and take your whining and self pity elsewhere. Don't be silly little boy. Nobody's head is "up their ass". What, this African American crap? IÆm black from the UK, i donÆt go around calling myself African English, that just sounds ******ed lol However, i agree with you and i am not oblivious to that fact the black people have not been to only slaves throughout history but it is the most recent example of an entire race being viewed as a lesser people and subsequently being enslaved, which is why this is an issue for me. If CCP released a chronicle where a character named Mitler when on a campaign to round up and kill all Amarrian because of their religion, would that be acceptable in your world?
Illwill Bill Noxious Intention	Posted - 2011.01.18 14:54:00 - [19] Originally by: Julien Brellier Never mind about black or white!!! The real question is....KAN WE HAZ TAILZ SO WII KAN BE TEH FURRIEZ? Furry Megathron best Megathron. Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
Seul Manus	Posted - 2011.01.18 15:00:00 - [20] Originally by: Jennifer Starling I don't know how you look like but I think the answer is yes. Eeek, its Morpheus.

Col cast	Posted - 2011.01.18 15:01:00 - [21] Originally by: Rek Seven However, i agree with you and i am not oblivious to that fact the black people have not been to only slaves throughout history but it is the most recent example of an entire race being viewed as a lesser people and subsequently being enslaved, which is why this is an issue for me. Actually one could argue that the Jews and Slavs are a more recent example with the **** Labour camps. But I'm just being pedantic. I agree with you.
Kveita	Posted - 2011.01.18 15:02:00 - [22] Originally by: Rek Seven Don't be silly little boy. Nobody's head is "up their ass". What, this African American crap? IÆm black from the UK, i donÆt go around calling myself African English, that just sounds ****ed lol However, i agree with you and i am not oblivious to that fact the black people have not been to only slaves throughout history but it is the most recent example of an entire race being viewed as a lesser people and subsequently being enslaved, which is why this is an issue for me. You are wrong, boy. A more recent example is the white-skinned slavic peoples, who were destined by the **s to be the slaves of the third Reich.
FlameGlow Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.18 15:06:00 - [23] Originally by: Gibbo5771 Can I finally have a black character? I am African American in RL and would like to reflect my self image onto my character, is this possible? I have been inactive for past 2 months or so, havent tested a thing lol Hahaha, you're from US aren't you? You can't call even yourself black
Joghurt Drink	Posted - 2011.01.18 15:08:00 - [24] Always found it strange that black people in the US call themselves african american. I mean the whites do not call themselves caucasian american do they? Why insinuate that there are more than one type of american? If your a black person in UK your still an englishmen, if your chinese with a german passport your still a german, same for french etc. I don't get why you are trying to split your country further into subgroups, as if right wing conservatists don't do a good enough job on their own ...
Seul Manus	Posted - 2011.01.18 15:13:00 - [25] Originally by: Joghurt Drink Always found it strange that black people in the US call themselves african american. I mean the whites do not call themselves caucasian american do they? Why insinuate that there are more than one type of american? If your a black person in UK your still an englishmen, if your chinese with a german passport your still a german, same for french etc. I don't get why you are trying to split your country further into subgroups, as if right wing conservatists don't do a good enough job on their own ... Actually black people in the UK never call themselves 'English' they call themselves British, or as I have heard some call themselves black British.
VaL Iscariot The Stone of Jordan	Posted - 2011.01.18 15:16:00 - [26] Originally by: Joghurt Drink Always found it strange that black people in the US call themselves african american. I mean the whites do not call themselves caucasian american do they? Why insinuate that there are more than one type of american? If your a black person in UK your still an englishmen, if your chinese with a german passport your still a german, same for french etc. I don't get why you are trying to split your country further into subgroups, as if right wing conservatists don't do a good enough job on their own ... ooo politics AND race related subjects! do please, go on.
Davich MacGregor Minmatar Stellar Products and Quality Resources	Posted - 2011.01.18 15:16:00 - [27] This thread is in need of locking. This is a game, not a political forum.
Joghurt Drink	Posted - 2011.01.18 15:17:00 - [28] Originally by: Seul Manus Originally by: Joghurt Drink Always found it strange that black people in the US call themselves african american. I mean the whites do not call themselves caucasian american do they? Why insinuate that there are more than one type of american? If your a black person in UK your still an englishmen, if your chinese with a german passport your still a german, same for french etc. I don't get why you are trying to split your country further into subgroups, as if right wing conservatists don't do a good enough job on their own ... Actually black people in the UK never call themselves 'English' they call themselves British, or as I have heard some call themselves black British. Ah yes you are probably right, i forgot that quirk. British =! English
Nicholas Barker Diabolus Ex Machina	Posted - 2011.01.18 15:21:00 - [29] Were all minmatar enslaved? Or did some manage to escape it? Not talking about converting to the Amarrian faith, i mean managing to completely avoid it by hiding, or the amarrians simply not crusading over the whole of minmatar space. I know a lot of them managed to remain free kind of, but still under amarr law. ------ 0800-LAG-A-NODE
bfBigTime	Posted - 2011.01.18 15:22:00 - [30] Because in the future melanin did not make it in the gene pool of all races but the most primitive. Brutor. However, I heard theyve been searching for it in deep frozen space and once they find it you'll be able to fill your character with melanin. Available at the eve store.



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