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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.01.23 14:53:00 -
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If you have offered a 1 v 1 you should do it, tricking people to pos is lame, ofc anyone with a bit of sense will scan :)
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Detaitiv
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Posted - 2005.01.23 15:41:00 -
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Quote: Over what? Rolling Eyes
These random bad feelings you have for FA.
And Kcel, before lecturing other on honor, you should probably take a good look at yourself and those you fly with.
Stabbing you old m8's in the back doesnt exactly put you in a position of authority. And that does seem a way of life for your current company. I'm surprised you fail to see how little honor you yourself have shown with the path you have chosen.
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Extravagant
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Posted - 2005.01.23 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim Coming from fighting CA over the last few month i can only say mutual respect in SA / CA is a far better base to play and enjoy the game on then lameness and hatred, maybe FA should think of a change of path here, you are treated like you treat your enemies and even if they treat you badly are you old enough to be "better" ?
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.01.23 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Detaitiv
Quote: Over what? Rolling Eyes
These random bad feelings you have for FA.
And Kcel, before lecturing other on honor, you should probably take a good look at yourself and those you fly with.
i can take a look around and wont find anyone unhonorable i fly with, give an example ?
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Stabbing you old m8's in the back doesnt exactly put you in a position of authority. And that does seem a way of life for your current company. I'm surprised you fail to see how little honor you yourself have shown with the path you have chosen.
Sorry to say this but you need to wake up from ur delusions, i left fa like 4 month ago, have no "bonds" there which would keep me loyal or in any way or form friendly to ppl i either dont like or dont know (fa changed in 4 month). The ppl however i like im friendly with and do favours (letting fa members pass me if i like 2).
How did atuk betray fa ? We were neutral at best and this status changed, buhu thats no betrayal. We were never friends, never close m8s never even buddies or anything else you might wanna claim. We had no special rights no special treatment. You didnt shoot us in curse, would have been hard for you anyways with all the SE around. So where is there backstabbing ? We declared even empire war on you, should tell you something....
P.S. my friends in the FA can live with my actions and see it as a game. I doubt gresnik wouldnt take a 1o1 from me and exspect fair treatment if we wanted it. Afterall i can say after a good match "good game", can you ?
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2005.01.23 16:15:00 -
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I agree with Kayosoni, and;
Originally by: Bad'Boy
Quote: FA - Honorable
ROFL!!!!!
Sorry but you haven't been in contact with the Fountain Alliance long enough to justify such a statement.
----- [22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas? [22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Detaitiv
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Posted - 2005.01.23 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: Detaitiv on 23/01/2005 16:36:14 Any implication that ATUK declaring war on FA was a backstab was unintentional. That was just bandwagon jumping. Why it was when we have ex-CA as well as Mercs to deal with I'll let you decide. What they did with CA so long ago may be another matter, but I wasn't there.
Regarding your dishonorable corpmates, look at the new ones.
I guess it comes down to what actions you see as defining honor. Is it loyalty or simply being honest with the enemy? I know I admired the ex-CFS fighters who held on when all was lost, even when their tactics became a bit dirty, more than the ones that never made a showing. To me it's more about who you fight and why. To you it's about how you fight.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.01.23 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Detaitiv Edited by: Detaitiv on 23/01/2005 16:36:14 Any implication that ATUK declaring war on FA was a backstab was unintentional. That was just bandwagon jumping. Why it was when we have ex-CA as well as Mercs to deal with I'll let you decide. What they did with CA so long ago may be another matter, but I wasn't there.
We declared war on you because we could. Who else should we fight ? SE and Xetic are good and close friends we fought CA with, BoB are our allies. So who ? Not that we would need to justify ourselfs to FA i suppose as i said previously, our standings were neutral so we can go and do as we please without asking you for your input or without having any stitches about "not doing the right thing in fa's eyes".
If you wish to dig up old stories from "what you did to CA", you werent there, i wasnt atuk but seeing the feedback we get from Supremacy, Shinra and the other xCa corps i cant say they feel any form of betrayal, so why would you in a matter which didnt involve you ?
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Regarding your dishonorable corpmates, look at the new ones.
New corpm8s define clearly the character of a corporation. So let me get this straight u want me to put up for 10 ppl who are new to Atuk ? If i do, will you put up for all 1k+ FA members ? I will gladly accept this challenge, especially with the incidents of just today....
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I guess it comes down to what actions you see as defining honor. Is it loyalty or simply being honest with the enemy? I know I admired the ex-CFS fighters who held on when all was lost, even when their tactics became a bit dirty, more than the ones that never made a showing. To me it's more about who you fight and why. To you it's about how you fight.
Honor is not a tradegood someone can view different, Honor lives after a codex.
Dictionary: honor: Principled uprightness of character; personal integrity. A code of integrity, dignity, and pride, chiefly among men, that was maintained in some societies, as in feudal Europe, by force of arms.
Dont try to spin your way out of it, trying to play dirty in a 1o1 cant be honourable by any means and thats what we talk about, however you turn it in the end youre just a coward and liar after such an event.
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fugazii
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Posted - 2005.01.23 16:51:00 -
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wait so tricking someone to a pos is pathetic but running 4x stab damps and only fighting at 100+ range isnt?
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.01.23 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii wait so tricking someone to a pos is pathetic but running 4x stab damps and only fighting at 100+ range isnt?
the first thing is trying to trick the enemy into a lame gank, doesnt matter if your fleet warps in, he warps to a pos or warps to belt npcs to get pwned.
The 2nd thing is your choice of weapons on your own setup. 4 stabs / damps and fighting at long ranges gives you certainly a major disadvantage (as you cant scramble) and your enemy isnt "bound" by your word in any way or form as there is no promises involved. Saying "1o1 is you against me not come out and fight me and the pos alone.... I thought that was common sense...
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Temi
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Posted - 2005.01.23 17:14:00 -
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your all a bunch of dishonorable fkers tbh :D Spelling errors ahoy.. |
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Heinky
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Posted - 2005.01.23 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii wait so tricking someone to a pos is pathetic but running 4x stab damps and only fighting at 100+ range isnt?
The point is FA sell them selfs as beeing "good" guys and that they have honor, but when they have 30+ people in local and they all see the offer of 1 on 1 wich some say their corps will honor( and u cant tell me they dont know about the pos at the moon, its in their main area) it shows they are something else.
And yes when i fly a raven i do use 4x stabs and damps most of the time, all the enemys Burn eden fights call us lame noobs because of this, when the fact is, we are a small corp always attecking alot larger numbers and this setup is a part of the tactics we use and it works, we are the once getting the kills while others call us lame sitting there with their big fleet not knowing how to counter it while we pick them out 1 by 1.
Just to give u an example, FA brought a big fleet of 20 bs.s and 10-15 frigs/crusiers the other day to get the 10 of us, 6 bs.s 4 frigs. To make a long storie short after some hours of fighting they had lost 17 ships and we lost 3 frigs. this was all due to our tactics.
U can call us lame or what ever u want, but as long as it works we will use it.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.23 18:36:00 -
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FA shouldnt call anyone lame for using WCS's. Its become standard for even their frigs to fit them now.
Not that its helped them at all.
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Temi
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Posted - 2005.01.23 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar FA shouldnt call anyone lame for using WCS's. Its become standard for even their frigs to fit them now.
Not that its helped them at all.
i think it was an F-E guy who said that, but then again your good at reading what you want to read Spelling errors ahoy.. |
Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2005.01.23 20:18:00 -
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Heinky took part in doing log-in traps on us, under the command of Fragm (their own alliance members started warning us of them because they too thought it was lame).
I really can't see how they can question anyone's honor.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Heinky
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Posted - 2005.01.23 21:15:00 -
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First of all a celest guy talking about login traps thats a joke. I have never done login traps and i have never dishonored a 1 on 1, even if tho if i were dishonorable that would have nothing to do with this. Its about FA the "good and honorable people" .
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.01.23 21:39:00 -
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You're wasting your breath, nobody thinks FA are the honorable good guys anymore, it's old news.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.01.23 22:59:00 -
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Frankly whether Heinky is honorable or not isn't the issue here.
an FA guy is scum
FA doesn't care apparently
ergo FA suck ass.
That's the way I see it anyways, if you guys collectively want to be respected then you have to keep up a certain standard of behavior, just like everyone else.
Boot the piece of ****.
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Mr Blonde
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Posted - 2005.01.23 23:42:00 -
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The FA's current position on the boards reminds me a lot of the early curse alliance that all the old timers always look back so fondly on.
"<EVE>Oh your scum, your pirates" "<FA>We dont care what you guys say" "<EVE>but your scum and pirates, and evil and suck" "<FA>Ya preach on, we dont care" "<EVE>Lets make another thread about your lack of honour" "<FA>Did we mention that you guys are full of it?"
Then you have a ton of CA or rather Ex-CA alts spamming every thread full, youve got obvious Ex-CA alts in Xetic corps, spamming every anti-FA thread (ahoy replacement for Walking Condradiction), and good ol Reclaimer right smack in the middle still thinking anybody cares.
Ironic how the table has completely turned, the victims of the past are now doing exactly that for which they hated the FA in the first place.
Bunch of Tools, the whole lot of ya __________________________________________
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jamesw
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Posted - 2005.01.23 23:51:00 -
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Yeah you have to watch out for FA warping people to a POS.
I was kinda hoping that it was a one-off when they did it to me, but seems that it is their new tactic for when their blobbing fails. -- jamesw Rubra Libertas Militia
Originally by: RollinDutchMasters I fly a dominix, its like a portable blob in a can
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.01.24 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii wait so tricking someone to a pos is pathetic but running 4x stab damps and only fighting at 100+ range isnt?
When we fought you in a group, there was always 2 or 3 times more of you guys. Our setups are designed for fighting outnumbered. If you guys can't come up with a way to counter us even when you outnumber us, I think its a bit hypocritical for you to be calling us pathetic. Most people we have fought at least have some respect for us for fighting against such numbers. Would you warp in on top of us, if there were 3 times more of us that you?
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Insane Angel
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Posted - 2005.01.24 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Insane Angel on 24/01/2005 01:05:36 Dread> I do mine. I havent denied and I didnt yesterday. You were afraid to wait for me to engage you after I had grabbed my combat ship.
Today, I engaged you several times, and you ran. Finally you were nailed and flew what you are best at flying .. a pod.
You sucked at pvp in FA and being in ATUK hasnt changed anything.
In regards to what you said in local about talking 'smack' on the forums: I can back it up, you cannot.
Enjoy the pod ride home.
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EviL ElecTricIaN
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Posted - 2005.01.24 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Insane Angel blah blah i'm so great blah blah
Congrats Insane Angel, you truely are the hero of FA. Has FA not told you to stop posting yet?
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2005.01.24 02:22:00 -
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okay adimtedly I'm a bit slow but from earlyer this thread the XCA people out in fountain are against JQA too? so Supremacy and friends (black omega, black rain etc..) wants to own Sydicate, VOTF and friends want to own outer rings and the rest want fountain territory?
huh, so why haven't we all united against this new Curse Allaince? I mean they are attacking all of us.
any Fountain Diplomats making contact with the other proper allainces?
also why haven't they actually formed an offical allaince? maybe to avoid wars? |
ZUDD
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Posted - 2005.01.24 02:31:00 -
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Out of all the times i've heard of people accepting 1v1s against FA, there has only been one FA member that ever honors their agreement.
One player out of an entire alliance of "good guys" is a shame.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.01.24 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss okay adimtedly I'm a bit slow but from earlyer this thread the XCA people out in fountain are against JQA too? so Supremacy and friends (black omega, black rain etc..) wants to own Sydicate, VOTF and friends want to own outer rings and the rest want fountain territory?
huh, so why haven't we all united against this new Curse Allaince? I mean they are attacking all of us.
any Fountain Diplomats making contact with the other proper allainces?
also why haven't they actually formed an offical allaince? maybe to avoid wars?
Alot of ppl are using alot of time on the boards trying to make FA look ebil. An apperantly alot of ppl are falling for it.
But i dont really care, more targets for me _____________
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tastinn
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Posted - 2005.01.24 08:21:00 -
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I must say I allways though FA were good guys but that is not true they have prooven that them selfs
no need to post more about how dishonest FA are..... _______________________ The Collective |
Markku
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Posted - 2005.01.24 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: tastinn I must say I allways though FA were good guys but that is not true they have prooven that them selfs
no need to post more about how dishonest FA are.....
Can you give some details about this dishonesty? ---------------------------------------------- Proud member of Finfleet
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2005.01.24 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Insane Angel Edited by: Insane Angel on 24/01/2005 01:05:36 Dread> I do mine. I havent denied and I didnt yesterday. You were afraid to wait for me to engage you after I had grabbed my combat ship.
Today, I engaged you several times, and you ran. Finally you were nailed and flew what you are best at flying .. a pod.
You sucked at pvp in FA and being in ATUK hasnt changed anything.
In regards to what you said in local about talking 'smack' on the forums: I can back it up, you cannot.
Enjoy the pod ride home.
Wow, nice posturing.
Shame you and your corp were has beens a year ago and things haven't changed. ----- [22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas? [22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Riddlock
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Posted - 2005.01.24 09:26:00 -
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FA are lame. all they do is blob fight i cant forget that me and kick jumped in local we were 2 bs and one frig then fa had 15 members in local they ran as fast as they could and we got one osprey at the gate fitted with stabs and miners'2 very funnie to be honest instead of defending their homelands they mine and get killed hehehehe
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tastinn
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Posted - 2005.01.24 09:26:00 -
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I said nothing about u guys being dishonest _______________________ The Collective |
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