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solomon clarke	Posted - 2011.01.20 12:09:00 - [1] right,if somebody would be so kind (someone with uber skills) to post the best rifter fit they know of,best wolf and best jag for pvp,one for solo one for groups of 4+. i would like the rifter setup to cost no more than 15 mil a pop,the wolf 40(including ship) and jag 45(including ship). as far as skills go dont worry cos im sure some i wont have some i will,if i dont i will within next 2 weeks most likely. im looking for something to boost my kills,im in null and am running the risk of looking bad :P ALSO if it really isnt to much mabey a nice hurricane? everyone likes a cane..THANKYOU IN ADVANCE,if you could throw even one setup on i would greatly appreciate
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.20 12:16:00 - [2] Edited by: Target Painter on 20/01/2011 12:23:46 Originally by: solomon clarke snip THE BEST RIFTER OF ALL TIME [Rifter, Plate Rifter] Gyrostabilizer II 400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Micro B88 Core Augmentation Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Small Nosferatu II 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Barrage S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Barrage S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Barrage S [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Whatever rigs you prefer, although it works well enough unrigged. 3.5Kish EHP, around 100 DPS, just over 1km/s, etc. Use the nos to help you hold point in case of neuting, otherwise the standard scram, web, brawl, profit method of fighting.
solomon clarke	Posted - 2011.01.20 12:19:00 - [3] i take it youve clearly used this setup many times,what kind of capabilities does it have? btw looks very good
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.20 12:34:00 - [4] Originally by: solomon clarke i take it youve clearly used this setup many times,what kind of capabilities does it have? btw looks very good I can't claim credit for this fit. This is a slight modification of the first Rifter fit given to me many years ago and I'm pretty sure every has flown it at some point. 3.5Kish EHP, around 100 DPS, just over 1km/s, etc. Use the nos to help you hold point in case of neuting, otherwise the standard scram, web, brawl, profit method of fighting. Watch for drones to come out, the moment they do, swap your web and DPS to them, get them out of the way as quickly as possible. As for capabilities: most other t1 frigates meant for brawling, poorly fit/flown cruisers other than the Caracal, in a gang, pretty much anything except nano-BCs/HACs. There is one very angry Zealot pilot out there who got soloed by a plate Rifter :). Kiting fits and nano-BCs/HACs will give you trouble though, because your speed sucks, but assuming you can get within scram/web range, it's game over for almost anything else in the T1 lineup below a BC. Obviously, faction frigs like the Dram and assault frigs like the Jaguar are decidedly no-go. On the other hand, I don't think this fit even breaks 2M isk, so if you have reason to suspect the guy flying the shiny pwnboat is dumb, go for it.
Canaloney Soup	Posted - 2011.01.20 12:42:00 - [5] Small Armor Repairer II Damage Control II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Stasis Webifier II 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Barrage S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Barrage S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Barrage S Small Nosferatu II Small Projectile Burst Aerator I Small Projectile Burst Aerator I Simlar EHP/DPS as one above but can rep for 1m 23s, this is your standard rifter fit scram/web, orbit at 5-7.5km and shoot
solomon clarke	Posted - 2011.01.20 12:44:00 - [6] 2m :L wow now that is value for money,cant go wrong with a rifter,me and a few of my corp mates have been working on our setups,and now we can have someone jamming there signal in a cruiser,cruiser NOS two frigs with nos and possibly a BC or t2 cruiser. think this is an effective little team,were basicly hoping to catch the straggling reds that like to try and torment us in null by catching them in a bubble...only way to learn is to get popped :L cheers dude
Devil tiger	Posted - 2011.01.20 14:21:00 - [7] [Rifter, Pimpage Rifter] Damage Control II Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer 400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1MN Afterburner II 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Domination EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Domination EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Domination EMP S Rocket Launcher II, Foxfire Rage Rocket Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Projectile Burst Aerator I Here's a real beast for you. Granted it's way over the top enough so infact that nobody ever flies it... with top skills & implants to match it has 173dps and 5,110 ehp [Jaguar, El tigre] Damage Control II Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Overdrive Injector System II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I Medium Shield Extender II Republic Fleet 1MN MicroWarpdrive 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S True Sansha Small Nosferatu Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I This Jag I've actually flown with some success 103dps & 9981 ehp
Skex Relbore Gallente Skexcorp	Posted - 2011.01.20 16:30:00 - [8] I'd replace the NOS in those setups with a neut. There really is no need on that fit for a energy vamp generally you're going to have more cap than anything you're fighting so it's just taking up a slot that could be used to cap out your enemy faster or hell hold a rocket launcher to make them die faster.
Aleena Vakarian	Posted - 2011.01.20 17:21:00 - [9] Edited by: Aleena Vakarian on 20/01/2011 17:21:48 [Rifter, [PvP] Rifter] Small Armor Repairer II 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II 1MN Afterburner II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Fusion S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Fusion S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Fusion S E5 Prototype Energy Vampire Small Projectile Ambit Extension I Small Projectile Ambit Extension I Small Projectile Burst Aerator I Pretty standard. Rigs to taste, I fit for more damage and falloff to make up for lack of TEs and gyros.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.20 18:14:00 - [10] A lot of crappy rifters posted here (lol AB). Try the MWD + MSE nano one. Its great. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html

Devil tiger	Posted - 2011.01.20 19:03:00 - [11] AB isn't so lol when you're up against Caldari ships. Propulsion jammers are also quite annoying for MWD's. I can squuze over 3500m/s out of my Jag with MWD and it still gets melted from missile spam due to increased sig. In otherewords you are moe likely to live if you know what you're engaging. Rocket Rifter might be interesting now that they've been improved from lol to useful
Jim Tudeski	Posted - 2011.01.20 21:18:00 - [12] Either [Jaguar, Dual Prop] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Gyrostabilizer II Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Medium Shield Extender II 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Or [Jaguar, Dual MSE] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Gyrostabilizer II Coreli C-Type 1MN Afterburner Warp Scrambler II Medium Shield Extender II Medium Shield Extender II 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S [empty high slot] Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Tbh.
Aleena Vakarian	Posted - 2011.01.20 21:29:00 - [13] Edited by: Aleena Vakarian on 20/01/2011 21:33:11 Originally by: Sidus Isaacs A lot of crappy rifters posted here (lol AB). Try the MWD + MSE nano one. Its great. MSE rifters are pathetic. Primarily because of the lack of a web to hold down targets within 10km. A scram isn't enough. However, since the SAR rifter is the standard fit, an MWD/MSE rifter is unexpected, which can give it the upper hand in an engagement with an enemy who has planned to fight a normal rifter. I'll give you that. But nonetheless; A SAR rifter, AB or MWD, will always outclass the MSE rifter in a 1v1 scenario.
Umega Solis Mensa	Posted - 2011.01.20 23:28:00 - [14] Thread needs more TD rifters... ---------------------------------------- Treat the EVE markets like you are its Pimp.. it is your 'willing' employee to fondle n use n abuse as you please.
Dorian Tormak	Posted - 2011.01.20 23:47:00 - [15] Edited by: Dorian Tormak on 20/01/2011 23:48:23 [Rifter, Best Evar] Damage Control II Small Armor Repairer II Overdrive Injector System II 1MN Afterburner II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II 250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S 250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S 250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot S [empty high slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Orbit at 15k, kill. Just wanted to post that because no one mentioned artillery.
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.01.21 00:24:00 - [16] [Jaguar, Baiter] Damage Control II Micro 'Vigor' I Core Augmentation Gyrostabilizer II Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Invulnerability Field II Republic Fleet 1MN Afterburner 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S [empty high slot] Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I over 18k EHP, makes a nice baiter
Tony SoXai	Posted - 2011.01.21 02:09:00 - [17] Originally by: Headerman [Jaguar, Baiter] Damage Control II Micro 'Vigor' I Core Augmentation Gyrostabilizer II Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Invulnerability Field II Republic Fleet 1MN Afterburner 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S [empty high slot] Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I over 18k EHP, makes a nice baiter Nice bait, no scrams or webs.
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.01.21 02:17:00 - [18] Best used for gate camp bait
Umega Solis Mensa	Posted - 2011.01.21 03:32:00 - [19] Originally by: Headerman [Jaguar, Baiter] Damage Control II Micro 'Vigor' I Core Augmentation Gyrostabilizer II Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Invulnerability Field II Republic Fleet 1MN Afterburner 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S [empty high slot] Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I over 18k EHP, makes a nice baiter Why.. Vengence can sport 18k+ ehp buffer while still carrying a web n scram, on top of not having a blown up sig radius. Seems like a misleading idea when another AF does it so much better. ---------------------------------------- Treat the EVE markets like you are its Pimp.. it is your 'willing' employee to fondle n use n abuse as you please.
solomon clarke	Posted - 2011.01.21 09:00:00 - [20] ok cool appreciate this guys,litterally as many fits as possible would be great as i can work out the best one. any experienced wolf pvpers?

Wensley Minmatar Gunpoint Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.01.21 12:06:00 - [21] Edited by: Wensley on 21/01/2011 12:06:02 Originally by: Target Painter Micro B88 Core Augmentation Originally by: Target Painter On the other hand, I don't think this fit even breaks 2M isk You might want to check the market before passing off fits with 15 million ISK worth of MAPC as cheap.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.21 12:15:00 - [22] Originally by: Aleena Vakarian Edited by: Aleena Vakarian on 20/01/2011 21:33:11 Originally by: Sidus Isaacs A lot of crappy rifters posted here (lol AB). Try the MWD + MSE nano one. Its great. MSE rifters are pathetic. Primarily because of the lack of a web to hold down targets within 10km. A scram isn't enough. However, since the SAR rifter is the standard fit, an MWD/MSE rifter is unexpected, which can give it the upper hand in an engagement with an enemy who has planned to fight a normal rifter. I'll give you that. But nonetheless; A SAR rifter, AB or MWD, will always outclass the MSE rifter in a 1v1 scenario. I guess all my kills in one is good for nothing then? :P Also good luck catching my in your armor rifter... Besides, 1v1 and EVE is an oxymoron. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
solomon clarke	Posted - 2011.01.21 12:23:00 - [23] i think there should be an hour event where everyone just kills eachother in rifters :L ok another question what is the beastiest most uber/5trillion kills a day SOLO pvp ship,ideally gate camping null
Mutant Caldari Caldari Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.01.21 12:25:00 - [24] Originally by: solomon clarke i think there should be an hour event where everyone just kills eachother in rifters :L ok another question what is the beastiest most uber/5trillion kills a day SOLO pvp ship,ideally gate camping null Sabre? Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
Xui Meili Caldari Swedish Aerospace Inc The Kadeshi	Posted - 2011.01.21 16:34:00 - [25] Sorry, typing from a phone. Anyways, for you gang op, you can use: DC II 200mm tungstun Small armor rep Web Scram Ab II 3X 150 mm autos Small remote armor repair. 3X CCC rigs. Surprised no one really knows of this fit or maybe I haven't looked hard enough. Its not cap stable, but it doesn't matter, you have 90% cap back in 10-15 seconds. And the local rep is there to help support the RR, but with 4-5 others isn't needed. Should be doing 100 dps per ship. Enjoy.
kyrieee Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.01.21 17:26:00 - [26] Dual MSE Jaguars are kickass (someone already posted a fit for one). You can engage pretty much any other frig in one.
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.22 06:13:00 - [27] Edited by: Target Painter on 22/01/2011 06:15:22 Originally by: Wensley You might want to check the market before passing off fits with 15 million ISK worth of MAPC as cheap. Whoops. Use the regular t1, meta 0 MAPC.
ZW Dewitt	Posted - 2011.01.22 08:05:00 - [28] Rifter 3x 150 AC II, NOS II AB II, Scram II, Web Small Rep II, 200mm Rolled Tungsten, Gryo II 2x Ambit, 1x Burst Aerator It didn't fit before the patch, but it does now.
Lyrrashae Minmatar Crushed Ambitions	Posted - 2011.01.22 19:52:00 - [29] If you're feeling a bit adventurous, and are willing to sacrifice the webber, then try this: Rifter: "Oh ***, He's 30km Off the Warp-in!" LO 1x 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plate 1x Damage Control II 1x Adaptive Nano-plating II MID 1x Catalysed Cold-Gas Arcjet Thruster (MWD) 1x 1MN Afterburner II 1x Warp Scrambler II HI 3x 150mm Light Autocannon II 1x TE-2100 Standard Missile Bay** Rig 2x Small Ancillary Current Router I 1x Small Projectile Burst Aerator I Grrrrrrrr, I hate* when this happens! Even with a long-point, I've lost a number of targets to this in my standard AB-only Rifters, Wolves, and Jags... *If you want to just fit a rocket launcher here, then only 1 ACR rig is needed, in which case I would use an Ambit Extension (extra fall-off for the guns) in the other rig slot, but 2 ACRs allows the light missile--I like the extra range-option--or a small NOS/neut which opens up many other options. Does 2.77 (3.93 overheated) km/s with my skills, and approx 118 dps with Republic Fleet high-damage ammo, and the AB keeps it at around 1.07km/s (1.385 overheated) for your close-orbit, will still do around 550m/s heated if/when you get webbed. Should have no trouble against 2 mid-slot frigates and destroyers (Beware the AC Thrasher--he will make very* short work of you if he's even half-awake!). I'd avoid Ruptures, AML Caracals (these can hurt. A lot.), Small-drone/Small gun Thoraxes like the plague, too. Great, comfortably expendable small-gang "Starter-ceptor," as well: Hero-tackle and shut off those nano-cruisers which I've been seeing a lot of of late, but that may well cost you the ship in the process. The ACR rigs are a bit expensive (about 1.2mn each, last I checked), but it's still chips.
1600 RT	Posted - 2011.01.22 20:02:00 - [30] [Rifter, test] Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S 150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S [empty high slot] Small Projectile Burst Aerator I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Core Defence Field Extender I can kill most of the ceptor if you manage to manual pilot and scram them, the taranis is the only one that will give you hard time



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