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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:04:00 -
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POCOs (Player Owned Custom Offices) where introduced with Crucible, but i haven't heard much on them since. Yesterday i asked a bit around and nobody was aware of their existence, which has left me puzzled. 
Are POCOs being used? Do they play any relevant role?
"We want your help to convince management to develop Incarna into 3rd person shooter dungeon raiding with friendly fire in nullsec space..."
Seriously, Team Avatar? |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:08:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:POCOs (Player Owned Custom Offices) where introduced with Crucible, but i haven't heard much on them since. Yesterday i asked a bit around and nobody was aware of their existence, which has left me puzzled. Are POCOs being used? Do they play any relevant role?
In hi-sec with the NPC owned ones probably not but to my knowledge they are used everywhere else to some degree.
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:09:00 -
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Hell yes they do, they are one of the primary lo sec conflict generators. |
Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:19:00 -
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yups
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Xinivrae
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:35:00 -
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I use them like, every few days or so. They're pretty handy. |
Pipa Porto
804
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Posted - 2012.08.19 10:37:00 -
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Sounds like you're in HS.
Everywhere else, the useful planets usually have them up already.
EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1070
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Posted - 2012.08.19 11:21:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:POCOs (Player Owned Custom Offices) where introduced with Crucible, but i haven't heard much on them since. Yesterday i asked a bit around and nobody was aware of their existence, which has left me puzzled. Are POCOs being used? Do they play any relevant role?
Change rocks. The one you're living under is apparently extraordinarily out of touch.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
790
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Posted - 2012.08.19 11:25:00 -
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They are a nice source of income.
Also sometimes people attack them to get a fight from the owners. |
Ghazu
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Posted - 2012.08.19 15:39:00 -
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PI how does it work? |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2012.08.19 15:44:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:PI how does it work?
It's a minigame about facilities emoting each other.
"We want your help to convince management to develop Incarna into 3rd person shooter dungeon raiding with friendly fire in nullsec space..."
Seriously, Team Avatar? |
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Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
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Posted - 2012.08.19 17:25:00 -
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Confirming that POCOs do exist and conflict resolves around them. I used to have 4 of them and pulled in a modest profit from the taxes from them. That is until I gave intel on a gate camp the locals were running after which they took revenge by tearing down all of my in-space internet pixels. |
Ghazu
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:22:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Ghazu wrote:PI how does it work? It's a minigame about facilities emoting each other.
Astonishing. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:24:00 -
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Real men use POCOs for profit and bait |
pussnheels
545
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:27:00 -
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yes they are being used and for my industrial characters they are a mixed blessing
Thanks to several corporations who took the initiative my PI is taxed relatively light (5%) compared to 17% to others
On the other hand i still believe their introductuin was not needed , a waste of dev time and energy and only complicate matters
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
ACE McFACE
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
805
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:33:00 -
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Why wouldn't you use them? (unless you do PI in high sec)
"7 pages of people insulting me - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar
What s/he (probobly he) meant:
"7 pages of people disagreeing with my terrible idea - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:36:00 -
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I really like to see what happens if high-sec POCO's go over into player hands. 
Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
790
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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:45:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:yes they are being used and for my industrial characters they are a mixed blessing
Thanks to several corporations who took the initiative my PI is taxed relatively light (5%) compared to 17% to others
On the other hand i still believe their introductuin was not needed , a waste of dev time and energy and only complicate matters
I was thinking they were made so Dust soldiers could blow them out of space via a huge planet based weapon. Dust was going to interact with PI somehow, wasn't it? |
Dwyn Hiro
Hiro Research and Development
Firestar Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.08.20 07:27:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:POCOs (Player Owned Custom Offices) where introduced with Crucible, but i haven't heard much on them since. Yesterday i asked a bit around and nobody was aware of their existence, which has left me puzzled. Are POCOs being used? Do they play any relevant role?
Yes, and Yes.
Frying Doom wrote:In hi-sec with the NPC owned ones probably not but to my knowledge they are used everywhere else to some degree.
They definitely aren't used in High-sec, since you can't destroy the Concord owned ones to anchor them. ;) I'm kind of hoping this will change in the future, but I doubt it.
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Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
Unified Church of the Unobligated
624
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Posted - 2012.08.20 12:27:00 -
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Leave high sec. Simple as that really.
Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method
Mamma didn't raise no victims. |
Geoscape
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:16:00 -
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I'm curious as to how much isk lowsec corps make from poco taxes on neutrals.
If anyone could let me know i would appreciate it. |
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Scott PiIgrim
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:17:00 -
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I love POCO's :D there making some nice isk on the side! |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1072
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:23:00 -
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This is why there shouldn't be hisec players in the CSM.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
pussnheels
545
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:24:00 -
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Geoscape wrote:I'm curious as to how much isk lowsec corps make from poco taxes on neutrals.
If anyone could let me know i would appreciate it.
interesting question i like to know aswell
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
246
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:25:00 -
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We really should get some POCOs in hi sec. Go on youtube and search for
"eve pvp poco"
and you can find some pretty good sized (for lo sec) fleet battles over ownership of POCO(s).
This one has 2 battleship fleets slugging it out for 18 minutes with carriers on field. In lo sec. Over a PI good.
This is what EVE is about, industrial warfare. This is what hi sec desperately needs.
EDIT: And lets look at CCP's taranis trailer!
So with POCOs PI finally does what it says on the tin. |
Lord Ryan
Quantum Cats Syndicate
561
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:28:00 -
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What's a POCO?
My wife plays POGO.
-á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it".
I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
Torvin Yulus
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:50:00 -
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Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
yeah lets force more pvp on the causal hi sec playetrs who just want to BE LEFT ALONE YOU GRIEFERS.
im a pubby and im proud |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.08.20 14:09:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:POCOs (Player Owned Custom Offices) where introduced with Crucible, but i haven't heard much on them since. Yesterday i asked a bit around and nobody was aware of their existence, which has left me puzzled. Are POCOs being used? Do they play any relevant role?
I can tell by this post, you don't leave high sec.
Go to lowsec, or nullsec and TRY to find a NPC PoCo. probably 80%+ of the PoCo's in LS/nullsec have been claimed.
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya |
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
233
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Posted - 2012.08.20 14:12:00 -
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Anyone who does any PI in low/null/WH space uses a POCO... paying 17% with the Interbus stations is flat out unprofitable.
High sec PI players have no choice but to use the 10% concord stations.
What % of the PI market is done in high vs low/null/wh? I couldn't tell you. However, as the CEO of a low sec corp with PI holdings, I can tell you they are quite handy and certainly are seeing use both from within my corp and from neutrals who live in the area.
In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse. |
Torvin Yulus
State War Academy
Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2012.08.20 14:14:00 -
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Pinstar Colton wrote:Anyone who does any PI in low/null/WH space uses a POCO... paying 17% with the Interbus stations is flat out unprofitable.
High sec PI players have no choice but to use the 10% concord stations.
What % of the PI market is done in high vs low/null/wh? I couldn't tell you. However, as the CEO of a low sec corp with PI holdings, I can tell you they are quite handy and certainly are seeing use both from within my corp and from neutrals who live in the area.
sure 10% or 17% is bad but its the prive you pay for not having to deal with lo sec grieftards.
ccp has made a griefing game and the poco is just another way of martking griefers able to win.
i will never do pi outside of hi sec even if its free
im a pubby and im proud |
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
233
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Posted - 2012.08.20 14:16:00 -
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Geoscape wrote:I'm curious as to how much isk lowsec corps make from poco taxes on neutrals.
If anyone could let me know i would appreciate it.
We charge 8% for neutrals, and 6% for blues. I won't give any details as to raw ISK income from this, but I can tell you that we have neutrals and blues who use our POCOs on a fairly reliable basis.
Torvin Yulus wrote:
sure 10% or 17% is bad but its the prive you pay for not having to deal with lo sec grieftards.
ccp has made a griefing game and the poco is just another way of martking griefers able to win.
i will never do pi outside of hi sec even if its free
Low sec PI is not bad in terms of danger. A T1 hauler is cheap enough to be able to lose without killing your wallet. A few STABs and a tank make it escape many gate camps or random pirates. You lose more isk to CONCORD taxes than you do ships/cargo to gankers in low if you can get yourself a sub 10% tax POCO, especially if you do factory planets.
In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse. |
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