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Horak Thor wrote:Not much else to do since the amarr wont fight, or cant.
I would suggest turning your attention inward and using a portion of your, no doubt not insubstantial, wealth and assets to provide for the planetside populations within the Republic and the space you've recently wrested. I know it can be a daunting task to try and focus on something other than endless combat, pillaging, murdering and raping; but I do encourage you to try it. |

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Posted - 2012.08.20 16:29:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Azdan Amith wrote:Horak Thor wrote:Not much else to do since the amarr wont fight, or cant. I would suggest turning your attention inward and using a portion of your, no doubt not insubstantial, wealth and assets to provide for the planetside populations within the Republic and the space you've recently wrested. I know it can be a daunting task to try and focus on something other than endless combat, pillaging, murdering and raping; but I do encourage you to try it. Pretty sure the only raping going on is from you bible thumpers with your minmatar slaves. The man's (Thor's) point still stands.
What's a bible? Also, you'd be incorrect in your understanding but I doubt you've bothered to do any real investigation into it so we'll just leave it there. |

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Horak Thor wrote: Maybe you dont understand the anger at having 1/3 of you people enslaved, no doubt you cant comprehend it being amarrian. but the constant knowledge that 1/3 of your race is toiling under unfavourable circumstances, and as i write this large percentages of the remaining heritage of my people are being brainwashed, or subjugated, its hard to put down our arms until this is rectified, for me, impossible.
On the contrary Mister Thor, I do understand your anger. I've taken the time and invested in listening to and understanding many Minmatar, I even have something of an uneasy friendship (or at least mutual respect) with several. I would like to emphasize that you insist they are suffering (which is a general statement and not entirely truthful), that they are toiling in unfavorable circumstances (which again is a broad generalization and also untrue, especially when compared to the "conditions" the Republic has to offer for many of its own citizens).
Horak Thor wrote:The matari people displaced by the recent fighting are being helped as much as the republic can do so, myself being in the military arm of the organization, am better suited to protecting the space they are moving into, by force, each arm of the organization has its purpose mine is warfare, a duty im more than happy to carry out.
Of this, I have no doubt. The problem is that your concern, in your own words:
Horak Thor wrote:Not only is this a massive strategic victory but it means the complete destruction of enemy morale. one final step closer to total victory, one final step closer to no enemy to fight :/
Note the inserted "emoticon" at the end, shall we? The disappointment and concern that you will no longer have an enemy to fight. Echoed in this thread with "nothing better to do since the Amarr won't, or can't, fight." Your interest is in the fight, not in the liberation of your people, which you're using as a front, an excuse.
Horak Thor wrote:My vast wealth will be invested into ensuring more slaves are freed and brought back into the fold, if you believe the republic to be that poor that it cannot care for its own people without the help of a capsuleers finances, your sadly mistaken. (the fact my entire income is paid for by the republic should tell you that your assumption is false).
I never insinuated that the Republic is too poor to tend to its own, only that it has done so poorly in the past. Furthermore, I offered you a suggestion on an alternative use of your funds than continued warfare, but you've made it clear that you've no interest in such things. |

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Posted - 2012.08.20 23:41:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote: My, for someone who's supposedly got a grudging respect for the Minmatar people and someone who wants to appear as a reasoned and calm voice you've written a lot of racist stereotypes in that paragraph. Care to explain yourself, pilot?
I believe you've taken my statement as if it were intended for all Minmatar, it was not. It was quite pointedly aimed at the one individual whom I quoted and I fail to see where it was racially charged. |

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Posted - 2012.08.21 11:45:00 -
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Horak Thor wrote: so you made the assumption i pillage **** and murder? (also taking my post from outside a roleplaying forum and using it in a roleplaying forum is stupid as hell)
((For the record, the post I quoted is found here and is, in fact, part of these role play forums.))
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Posted - 2012.08.21 19:15:00 -
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[quote=Anslo[You don't know what is and isn't good for anyone. [/quote]
Producing credentials which verify your right to make that statement would lend more credit to your argument. |

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Posted - 2012.08.21 20:42:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Since when did anyone need credentials to say "slavery is wrong, you shouldn't decide a people's fate other than your own?" I love how eggers fall back on that bullshit excuse when a fact is stated. "Where's your data hmmm?" **** you, I don't need a 50-page thesis to support that slavery is morally reprehensible and that the Minmatar are deservedly pissed off. I just hope they stomp you people quickly.
I understand that you believe slavery is morally reprehensible, you've been quite vocal about it and I wasn't implying that you need credential to make that assertion as it's entirely opinion-based.
My assertion was saying that someone doesn't know what's good for someone or not is an authoritative statement that does require crediting. A doctor, for instance, can say what is and isn't good for someone; as can a psychiatrist, scientists and yes, even ministers and priests. |

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Posted - 2012.08.22 01:34:00 -
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Dos Naari wrote: I wonder how many of the imperials speaking have actually witnessed a Ni-Kunni water dance, or had the chance to sit and listen to a cloud reader? Probably not many considering that such customs are only openly practiced outside Amarr space. Truth is the Ni-Kunni come from an ancient, resourceful, and highly shamanistic culture that has much in common with the Vherokior, but unfortunately when the Amarr came to Mishi they impersonated characters from Ni-Kunni mythology in order to trick many Ni-Kunni into voluntarily accepting open conquest.
I would ask what source you used to obtain this information and then inform you that it is not entirely accurate. The Amarr did not intentionally impersonate any deity or angelic being as doing so would be blasphemous in God's sight and betray the very purpose of our expansion to begin with (that being conversion to the one true faith in God, rather hard to do that if you're impersonating other deities). We arrived on a planet with low reserves of water and natural resources and began to distribute water and resources to a needy population.
Furthermore, the Ni-Kunni didn't accept open conquest. They attacked and slaughtered exploratory crews that landed on the planet shortly afterward because their barons at the time did not wish to relinquish their power. They were then summarily conquered and enslaved in response to their rebellion.
Dos Naari wrote:Such is the way of the Amarr, they love to pretend. They pretend they are strong, refined, and still relevant, when in truth they are parasites that claim to be enlightened and advanced, while feeding off the progress of other cultures to sustain their own. Time and again they are humiliated; by the Jovians, by the Matari on a daily basis, humiliated even by the Federation. And all the while what of their "reclaiming"? The best capsuleers among them defect to Caldari space out of frustration as those that remain fight and die not in ships of imperial majesty, but in the very vessels of those they claim to be savages.
Your impotent jabs at the relevance and truth of the Amarr and the Amarr faith aside; you are correct in that we have suffered defeats in our history and made a mockery of ourselves when we have betrayed our own purpose or let our own hubris blind us. You are also correct in that many seem to be fleeing from the fight and trials ahead of us. However, do not mistake this as being the activities of the greater majority of Amarr, they are capsuleers and many of them have demonstrably lost their way long before now.
Dos Naari wrote:Truth is the glory days of the Amarr empire have long passed, what remains is little more than an ineffectual relic kept in place to maintain some resemblance of order within a feudal patchwork of holder states, but fear not Amarr, the State will always be there to provide you with the technology and resources needed to hold off the inevitable, for a price. 
Perhaps you have forgotten that it is the State that required an emergency transfusion of funds in order to stay a float and prevent economic collapse within itself, not the Empire. Perhaps you've also forgotten that the Empire has not requested the assistance of the State in any formal capacity and while technology is shared with the Kingdom and certainly benefits innovation, the majority of the Amarr fleet has been upgraded by our own engineers and technicians.
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Posted - 2012.08.22 02:37:00 -
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Scherezad wrote: We at Lai Dai Research Biomedical and Cybernetics would like to take this opportunity to thank our Amarrian friends for the aforementioned loan of liquid funds to the Caldari State. The loan was provided on good terms, and we trust that the profits made by both parties as a result were well appreciated. We hope for future business endeavours with you, as we do with all interested parties. Thank you.
As always you are most graceful and gentle in your dealings and words, Miss Scherezad. I pray I've not unintentionally offended in my rebuttal.
I also reiterate that my intention is not to discredit the mutual benefit that has been gained as a result of our partnership, nor to dishonor the stalwart dedication and integrity of those within the State. |

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Posted - 2012.08.22 02:49:00 -
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Dos Naari wrote:Out of curiousity, by what merit does your division have the right to express gratitude towards a slave trading theocratic empire for something that occurred centuries before even your parent corporation existed? How strange that a patriot corporation like Lai Dai would authorize such a sycophantic statement in the first place, much less through one of it's divisions.
Hm.
Let's see, the investment into the Caldari State by Empress Jamyl Sarum I occurred in the year YC 111.
Lai Dai existed before the Morning of Reason that occurred at the outset of the Gallente-Caldari war.
Do you even bother to check your information before you spew it out? |

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Posted - 2012.08.22 11:26:00 -
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Dos Naari wrote: Yea maybe you're right, but that still doesn't change the fact that you sir are an evil theocratic piece of slaver hound dung, and the universe would undoubtedly be a better place should you and your kind finally cease to exist. With that said I take my leave, the sanctimonious self righteous airs of this conversation are making me physically ill, and I still have to get these exotic dancers and tobacco to Ashab.... See ya on the lanes slaver.
As if I've never heard this song before.
I sincerely apologize that my rebuttals to your blatant misinformation have made you physically ill, perhaps if you would cease consuming large quantities of bullshit and then trying to feed it to everyone else, you wouldn't feel so ill. |

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Posted - 2012.08.22 18:35:00 -
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Dos Naari wrote: If it is considered a bretrayal to call an individual on misplaced humility when dealing with RELIGIOUS SLAVER SCUM, then may you live in interesting times pandering to your imperial overlords, because make no mistake, for all their talk of truth their idea of salvation is packing you and the ones you love aboard a Bestower to be shipped off to Domain to be sold as livestock for a handful of isk.
You have your information incorrect again. Slaves are not treated like livestock by the Empire despite what you may believe, nor are they sold and traded for pitiful sums. In fact, slaves rarely change hands in the Empire. You might be confusing us with the Angel Cartel or even the Blood Raiders.
Dos Naari wrote:Nope, I refuse to fight for a hypocritical Federation or a liberation force that has members who insult someone for speaking blunty about the actions of slaver scum and those who pander to them.
I seem to recall you mentioning the sanctimonious, self-righteous airs of this conversation and attributing arrogance and pretentiousness to "Amarrian religious zealots" (a description you've applied directly to me) while simultaneously exhibiting self-righteousness, pretentiousness, arrogance and zealotry. You then back out of any opportunity to actually fight against us brutal, sanctimonious, self-righteous zealots while simultaneously accusing us of notorious cowardice. Likewise, you accuse the Federation of something you have aptly demonstrated in the course of eleven short days as a capsuleer: hypocrisy.
You also profess to be taking a stance of "neutrality" while placing yourself as judge and lord over every other nation in the cluster and demonstrating objective hostility toward both the Gallente and the Amarr (moreso the latter) which is quite the opposite of neutrality.
You have done far more to implicate yourself than I could ever hope to, so I applaud you. |

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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:55:00 -
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Benjamin Eastwood wrote:Ditto. There's an amusing drinking game based off of taking a sip of alcohol every time you see a supercilious post involving an Amarr and religion.
Huh, that might explain the behavior of a few people here on IGS since my becoming more active. |

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Posted - 2012.08.22 23:56:00 -
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Henry Kaine wrote: Do yourself a favor and buy a couple of stocks in a liquor company if you're going to keep the stuffy Amarr religious nut act up.
Who's acting? |

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Posted - 2012.08.23 01:26:00 -
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Benjamin Eastwood wrote:Azdan Amith wrote:Henry Kaine wrote: Do yourself a favor and buy a couple of stocks in a liquor company if you're going to keep the stuffy Amarr religious nut act up.
Who's acting? I doubt Mr. Kaine is a man of much religion. So then that leaves you, and pretty much the rest of the Summit.
Right, that went completely over your head.
It's not an act, Mister Eastwood. Though I suspect you'll find some way to argue that it is. |

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Posted - 2012.08.23 10:52:00 -
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Horak Thor wrote: Wrong, they can ADVISE a person. a doctor can tell a person to take a certain medicine or they will die, that person can say no i wont take it. it is there choice.
You eliminate the option of personal choice from the equation, therefore abusing the basic human rights of us all.
Last I checked, advising a person is telling them what's good for them and what's not. Whether or not they choose to follow it is another matter entirely.
As for the elimination of personal choice, that's not entirely accurate. You still possess the ability to choose to listen or rebel and, as with all choices, you face the consequences of either choice. It never ceases to amaze me how people claim it is a basic human right to be free and yet all of us are slaves to something. |

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Horak Thor wrote: Funny what happens when an empire is ripped apart and it attempts to reform after a thousand years, you expect it to be smooth? i believe the deep seated damage you inflicted on my race is unknown even to you.
You look down upon us for a few riots? this republic is formed around a mixture of people born from different backgrounds, some are recently freed from slavery, others have been free for longer.
We havnt had thousands of years to stabilise the tribes, your holy "empire" saw to that.
There are also three tribes without elders, again we have you Amarr to thank for this, another glorious chapter in the long and rotten history of the Amarrian legacy.
I would humbly suggest that you start taking responsibility for your own failures. Blaming the Empire for the riots in your streets, the blatant violence against peaceful persons and the difficulties in securing centralized leadership will not help you grow and develop as a people, when you begin to take responsibility rather than defer the blame you will begin to overcome the obstacles facing you.
It doesn't take thousands of years to establish a centralized government and some measure of peace and unity between a people. It can take a few years no doubt, but certainly not thousands. You have those among your number suggesting that you do just that, focus on infrastructure and developing unity among yourselves but the majority of you seem more content to keep waging war and conflict, even you yourself seem more concerned with finding the next fight than actually assisting your people, this is based on your own words.
The Empire has no doubt had an effect on your people but it was your rebellion and now it's your Republic. Take pride in it and accept responsibility for its failures as readily as you accept credit for its successes. |

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Posted - 2012.08.23 19:42:00 -
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Horak Thor wrote:By enslaving the minmater you didnt advise you enforced. you didnt offer us the ability to follow your religion, as a doctor advising a patient would, you enslaved us and told us it was for our own good, if we told you we didnt want to follow your religion we were "corrected". Fact.
You are correct, we didn't offer you much choice in the matter. I do not deny that this was a misstep on our part as previously we always attempted to peacefully guide and shepherd if possible. Also, referring to the latter, rejection of the message of God does warrant conquest by the Reclaiming, yes. I have also never denied that.
Horak Thor wrote:So in its youth the amarr were not in a civil war with the khanid on athra? they didnt enslave countless worlds etc that were different and enforce the amarr's way upon them?
Actually no, the Khanid submitted pretty voluntarily save for a few that chose to wage war rather than submit. These were forced into submission through conquest. To the latter, yes we did engage in conquest over many worlds before we contacted the Minmatar. Most of them are now upstanding members of the Empire, many serve in positions of power and authority. We even managed to keep a few from going extinct due to lack of resources on their home planets or destroying themselves through civil war.
Horak Thor wrote:Unlike you amarrian the minmatar dont repress free will. we have a multitude of peoples with different religions, ways of life, tribal beliefs etc. yes this causes conflict especially since they are all so newly settled together.
Actually, the Minmatar have a history of violently attacking and killing their own kin who follow the Amarr faith, I'll provide references if you'd like. Also, before our arrival, you warred constantly against one another, even attempting to eradicate entire tribes from among yourselves, you actually became unified as a result of the interaction between our two peoples.
Horak Thor wrote:What we do not do is stamp out this difference like you. this gives us great strength and weakness.
I agree that you find great strength in diversity and internal friction. You have certainly demonstrated so. However, you do stamp out certain differences if you feel strongly enough opposed to them. |

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Horak Thor wrote:I stand corrected it was the Udorians not the Khanid the amarr were at war with however my point still stands. Let me point you here Azdan http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ReclaimingRead the history of your people. violence from start to finish. Stop attempting to deny this.
I'm aware of the history of the Reclaiming and of the Amarr, Mister Thor and I have never attempted to deny that our past is a violent one. I have only stated that violence is not the preferred initial method, unfortunately it is the method most commonly remembered as it tends cause the most ripples.
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Posted - 2012.08.24 01:52:00 -
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Kithrus wrote:Also as I recall the Angel Cartel is just as much Matari as it is anything else.
Lord Kithrus,
With utmost respect, this is folly. By this claim, the Amarr would have to adopt the Blood Raiders and Equilibrium of Mankind as Amarr since they splintered from our faith and culture. |

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Posted - 2012.08.24 03:10:00 -
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Indeed Lord Kithrus.
Forgive my challenge to your words, my station demands that I seek clarification on such points.
May his light forever shine upon the faithful. |

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Anabella Rella wrote:The bottom line is this; neither the Minmatar, Gallente or Caldari recognize any "divine" right of the Amarr to forcibly spread their faith through the so-called "reclaiming" nor, do we recognize your deity. Your authority ends at your border. Why can't you accept this and leave the rest of us alone? I say your god doesn't exist. You say he does and that my "soul" will be forfeit unless I and my descendants for the next 9 generations bow to your will. As an adult well past the age of majority I say that's MY concern, not yours.
Miss Rella,
God does not require you to recognize or validate his existence nor his plan. God's authority is without boundary and without border whether or not you choose to accept or believe it. I understand that doesn't satisfy you nor does it change the scope of your perspective, but it is the truth of it.
I would also explain that there is no requirement for nine generations of slavery, that is simply the maximum length of time we will hold a people in slavery before considering our attempts as failures. Indeed, there is no requirement for even a single generation of slavery, it is dependent entirely upon the individuals involved in penance and instruction.
Anabella Rella wrote:Had your people never invaded and abducted, murdered, subjugated and poisoned mine with biological weapons (vitoc) for a millennium we'd have never attacked. You started the war and the Elders attempted to finish it.
I will not discount that you had justification in your rebellion and that many wicked and evil things have been done to your people by the malpractice of the Empire. However, the Minmatar people signed treaties and agreed to cessation of hostility along with the Empire in the Yioul Conference, the war ended there and your people accepted the conditions of the cessation at that time. Your Elders broke the agreement and started the current war, even claiming the lives of countless persons innocent of your grievances against the Empire. |

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Horak Thor wrote: EHEM one second.. hmm yes a clear throat.
YOUR NOT IN THE MILITIA NPC CORP NOOB STFU ABOUT STUFF YOUR HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INVOLVMENT IN OR POST WITH YOUR MAIN.
Thanks you thank you.
What in Eden are you babbling on about, especially so vehemently?
Furthermore, you have once again proven my point that you're painting with a broad brush and justifying your own sins while trying to condemn your enemy for theirs. We really have nothing further to discuss.
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Posted - 2012.08.25 10:12:00 -
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Mister Oliver,
You've said nothing offensive from my perception.
Hubris and arrogance are common vices among the Amarr and we have paid for them several times; we will continue to pay for them until we learn to set them aside. Even the Scriptures upon which we base our entire faith teach of humility, not arrogance. It is extremely easy to lose oneself to pride and arrogance but just as you do, expect to be humbled.
There are many things preventing peace between the Amarr and the Minmatar and you have touched upon two of the most prominent. My prayer is that we will eventually overcome ourselves in spite of one another. |

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Horak Thor wrote:Azdan do you even do anything outside of the public forum? Ive had an agent sat outside your station in Penirgman for the last 2 days and youve just been there docked shouting your mouth. Please undock so i can ehem have words with you.
My sincerest apologies. You may recall I have just finished creating a corporation under the banner of the Empire, such a task requires that a basic level of administrivia be seen to in order to create a solid foundation for the corporation to grow from. Establishing communication channels, role and title delegations, descriptions, advertisements, hangars and so on. This is a tedious process that takes significant time investment. So yes, I've been sitting within a station for the past couple of days seeing to these tasks, ordering my house, if you will.
To answer your question, yes. |

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Horak Thor wrote:We've talked before. me and my brothers have destroyed many of your ships. As you and yours have of mine theres something about killing an amarrian's first pod.
The realization when they wake that they've been cloned and will never see god. yes thats something quite different.
Should you manage to catch me, destroy my ship and destroy my pod, you will have accomplished three things:
- Proven that rather than actually try and settle the disputes between us you would prefer to simply kill, which validates my original accusations against you
- Forced me to purchase a new clone contract and implants
- Destroyed a ship
The truth is that I am already a clone, that is part of becoming a capsuleer these days. Second, being cloned has nothing to do with seeing God. Third, I have no problem facing you in combat if that is the only language you speak. However, it will accomplish nothing except perhaps making you feel superior for a time.
A shame, really. Where do you wish to meet? |

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Horak Thor wrote:There are a few problems here. 1) Ten's of billions of people enslaved is not a dispute its a dahm crime against humanity. 2) Your view is clearly that of your extremist bretheren, that the minmatar need to be enslaved to be saved.
Because of point 2 you have commited a crime against my people and my tribe. for that there can only be death.
Interesting since I've never once stated to hold that view, but I appreciate you telling me what my viewpoint is for me, it will help me clear the muddied waters a bit.
Thank you for confirming that your interest is in vengeance and further reiterating that your desire isn't simply for "freedom," but rather for retribution and you justify your own crimes against others because you believe your sin is the lesser. [/quote]
Horak Thor wrote:You want a straight out fight with a combat record of 0? it will hardly be a challenge. no i think hunting will be much more fun, you might be in a ship actually worth something when i catch you.
...you reveal more of your wretched character and depravity with each successive comment. Not only have you expressed dismay in no longer having an enemy to fight, your interest is in getting an "expensive" kill and slaughtering as many people as you can. Fantastic, I gave you entirely too much credit at the start of this discussion.
Horak Thor wrote:Also an Amarrian capsuleer sacrifices his right to see God, that is fact. Cloning is heretical if im correct? anyway this seems to be the view of most amarrian pilots im fighting against. Your not yet a clone unless youve self destructed your pod, since there is 0 record of you ever having lost one.
Wrong on every single count. Weren't you the one judging me for being ignorant?
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Posted - 2012.08.26 03:18:00 -
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Horak Thor wrote:Do you believe the minmatar enslaved by the amarr should be free'd?
As a whole? No. From the corrupt and unrighteous Holders, from those that take slaves illegally and from those that slaughter wholesale and profane human life with disdain? Absolutely, or at least moved to a more righteous Holder.
Horak Thor wrote:Do you believe it is the amarrians right to reclaim all of new eden?
Our "right?" No. It is our sacred duty. However, I suspect that your understanding of what the Reclaiming actually is may be somewhat skewed by misrepresentation from many Amarr capsuleers.
Horak Thor wrote:Excuse me if i misunderstood something you have said and led me to believe you were saying something you were not, this is a bi-product of you expunging 1000 words when 10 will do.
Using fewer words often allows for greater holes and increased misunderstandings. If my decision to be thorough frustrates you then perhaps it is better if we simply cease the conversation. You've already declared your intent to hunt me down and destroy my ship anyway, further discussion is rather pointless.
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Posted - 2012.08.26 10:55:00 -
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No Mister Thor,
Squire Mai clarified the point rather succinctly so I'll not add too much to it.
I do believe it is our sacred duty to Reclaim the cluster for God, not for the Empire and I do believe slavery can be properly used as a lifestyle correction to help those lost in sin to be freed from those sins and taught to live for God alone.
I do not believe that every Minmatar has to be enslaved in order to be saved, as you suggested I did.
So no, I didn't contradict myself. I attempted to use fewer words to give you an answer and it led to misunderstanding, as it often does. |

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Horak Thor wrote:So your the Robin to Azdan's Batman? Glad he has a sidekick seemed like a lonely lad.
Rob - what? It must be a cultural reference. I am hardly lonely but I appreciate the concern.
Horak Thor wrote:So if a religion enslaves a race murdering billions destroying entire worlds, are we then expected to accept that religion with open arms on the very eve of our freedom?
No grow up and realize that every action the Amarr make or have made has an equal reaction, or in other words the current situation the Minmatar find our selves in is a direct, a bloody DIRECT consequence of everything we have endured at the hands of the Amarr.
The religion didn't enslave and murder anyone, those practicing it did so.
Also, the situation the Minmatar find themselves in is a direct result of their own choices and decisions. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you'll find a greater purpose to your life than hollow vengeance and blood lust.
Squire Mai, continuing conversation with Mister Thor is a massive waste of time, I'd recommend avoiding it. I am hereby withdrawing from this conversation. |
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