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Linna Excel
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Posted - 2011.01.28 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Linna Excel on 28/01/2011 20:36:39 It got off of the test server so it must have been working as intended. The bras females are wearing under their jackets don't show anything indecent. We have to have jackets on so it's just a little cleavage being shown. You can probably see worse on prime time TV. We see our characters without clothing during character creation. And honestly some of the things that go down in game and in chat are worse than a little skin and would be more cause for a worse rating than the cleavage.
Thus there's no necessity for forcing people's avatars to wear a shirt.
So if you agree there should be shirtless avatars (both for males and females) as long as there's that jacket or whatever for the females, please support this thread.
EDIT - games like Blade and Soul and Tera have more skin showing than the EVE chars. So it isn't like EVE would be the worst.
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Wolo Alt
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Posted - 2011.01.28 20:34:00 -
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Yeah no kidding. The editor starts off with you in your underwear anyway so it's not like going shirtless (or pantless) is anything we haven't just seen on the screen before hand. Why not just let people go forward no matter what state their wardrobe is in.
Besides you wouldn't say no to these cans would you?
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E man Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.28 20:47:00 -
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My characters will have shirts..
But I hate the kidification of everything so supported. Heck people should have to wear jackets eather we are all naked in pod gew anyways,.
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Lekla en Chasteaux
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Posted - 2011.01.28 21:25:00 -
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I think that some of the outerwear should be worn as whole outfits, because some of it covers the entire body.
I support this topic also.
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Jagga Spikes
Spikes Chop Shop
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Posted - 2011.01.28 22:24:00 -
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i see no reason to enforce top clothing. unless CCP can come with reasonable explanation, i support the OP. ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon." |
Marianne Taggart
Brutor Junker and Scrapper Swarm
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Posted - 2011.01.28 22:50:00 -
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Agreed. My original toon was naked except for the Gallente transparent... whatever the hell it was. What is the problem CCP? This should be an 18+ game anyways.
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Aion Amarra
Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.28 23:11:00 -
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My chars ain't shirtless, but I still see no reason for CCP to restrict this.
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Arushia
Nova Labs New Eden Research.
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Posted - 2011.01.29 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Arushia on 29/01/2011 00:25:01 The previous level of shirtlessness was well within the limits of EVE's ESRB T rating.
New Eden Research, where your research gets done! |
Marconus Orion
Global Criminal Countdown
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Posted - 2011.01.29 00:38:00 -
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It was probably due to all the shirtless guys running around.
By the way, not supported. No one should be fapping to serious business spaceship avatars.
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Agent Vixen
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Posted - 2011.01.29 03:42:00 -
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I have a vest and a black tube top ... who needs a shirt?
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Alhambra Rainwalker
Rosa Alba Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.29 04:58:00 -
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I agree, this is really stupid. I mean, kids see stuff like latest Lady Gaga videos every day from dumbtube. Who cares if you can see underwear or bare male chest? More variation = better.
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Teranul
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Posted - 2011.01.29 05:39:00 -
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Seriously, I cannot support the reasoning behind this change whatsoever. It's stupid.
If we want to be shirtless, let us be shirtless! (I'd also support not requiring pants, shoes, or jackets, but it's clear that they're never going to budge on that.)
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2011.01.29 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Arushia The previous level of shirtlessness was well within the limits of EVE's ESRB T rating.
Indeed. Ironically, many chronicles feature more than enough cruelty and sex to warrant a 18+ rating. ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.01.29 08:08:00 -
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Spirulina Laxissima
TotalControl Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.29 09:13:00 -
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I'm wearing a zipped jacket over my bra. Once you implement more traditional Minmatar tribal-wear, I'll happily change into cotton-wraps under my red-brown leather clothes. (*+.,_,.#¦¦`*+.,_,.#¦¦`*+.,_,.#¦)
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Hydraulic Jack
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Posted - 2011.01.29 09:16:00 -
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Why you deny me showing off my beautiful abs?
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Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
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Posted - 2011.01.29 12:59:00 -
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This proposal doesn't affect me in any way, but I still support it. More customization options can't be bad. ____________________________________________
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Adiu Tor
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Posted - 2011.01.29 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Adiu Tor on 29/01/2011 14:09:16 Supported, or are we in in the United States where you see killing in tv all day but not one boobie? I hope EVE wont get such hypocrital moral values.
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fukier
The Unpodable Supermen
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Posted - 2011.01.29 14:58:00 -
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supported... how can i stroke my e-peen with a shirt on?
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Sander Holthaus
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Posted - 2011.01.29 18:04:00 -
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+1 It is bull you need to create your character with no clothes on, yet it is mandatory to put some ugly shirt on which covers all. Apparently no sexy looking character allowed in EVE.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.29 18:22:00 -
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Agreed...it seems rather petty and pansyish of CCP to make this change. It's like CCP has never seen a woman's cleavage. I thought it was the middle east where women couldn't show skin and had to cover their faces...not Iceland. NO BOOBIES LEFT BEHIND! |
Algathas
United Amarr Templar Legion Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.01.29 18:30:00 -
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Supported |
Selinate
Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.29 19:26:00 -
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supported.
I also support "naked option", but that's for a different time
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Skex Relbore
Skexcorp
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Posted - 2011.01.29 19:34:00 -
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Supported
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Ipyr
The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.01.30 02:24:00 -
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Edited by: Ipyr on 30/01/2011 02:24:33 Agreed, this is an adult game. I mean come on, they are still in their underwear.
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FLINX 0220
The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.01.30 02:30:00 -
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It may seem like a small thing, but it shows you where CCP is headed, a parent friendly game.
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Joshawu Minden
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Posted - 2011.01.30 13:08:00 -
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My fellow Amarr would gladly chop off my legs at the hem of my dress, so no showing leg from me! (or chest: God would personally kill me) But I support more diversity & customization.
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Daemeon Fyral
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2011.01.30 13:18:00 -
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+1 for shirtless, there are some minor tweeks i've been wanting to make to my portrait but have been unable too because I don't want to be forced into a shirt.
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Wercheg
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Posted - 2011.01.30 19:05:00 -
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Supported.
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Khaeros
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Posted - 2011.01.30 19:09:00 -
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supported. Or at least give us a real explanation why not.
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Thune Vorpal
The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.01.30 20:07:00 -
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Edited by: Thune Vorpal on 30/01/2011 20:06:48 What we probably dont know is the teen player-base is growing to the point where CCP doesn't want to upset parents.
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caldarichecker
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Posted - 2011.01.31 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Thune Vorpal Edited by: Thune Vorpal on 30/01/2011 20:06:48 What we probably dont know is the teen player-base is growing to the point where CCP doesn't want to upset parents.
If parents haven't figured out how to deal with this well before the teen years they are fail as parents and deserve what ever they get.
Seriously the second thing most human beings see in their life is a boob and the first is the other part of the anatomy everyone gets all wierded out about.
Boobs are life. They are what makes us mammals, the fact that they are prominent on the chest is unique to humans. They create friggin food for crying out loud they are friggin miraculous.
Just more neo-puritanism because the religious right is ****ed off that they've lost the culture war. I'm disapointed in CCP for capitulating to such nonsense. It's a cruel harsh universe but keep your shirts on.
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Mackenzie Hawkwood
Don't Run Naked
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Posted - 2011.01.31 08:05:00 -
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A reply from CCP on this issue would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath. No boom today... boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. |
Arushia
Nova Labs New Eden Research.
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Posted - 2011.01.31 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mackenzie Hawkwood A reply from CCP on this issue would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath.
"By popular demand: Shirtless! Now in the Incarna store for 1 PLEX"
New Eden Research, where your research gets done! |
Linna Excel
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Posted - 2011.01.31 08:29:00 -
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checker, I think you are thinking more of the Victorians than the puritans. The puritans were modest and didn't show things off, however it was the victorians who were more aggressive about it.
Likewise the goal of this thread isn't to be about anti religious right rants... being against improper or excessive sexuality has its place. Plus if you want to split hairs, there's just as many on the left (feminists) who'd hate something like this as people on the right.
My thoughts on the matter are: 1. Technically everything that has to be covered is, so it's not full nudity. Now it might be tasteless, trashy, ****ty, or sexy depending on your point of view, however no female nipples, no genitals = not nudity.
2. All of the avatars I've seen are already wearing a jacket; they've just got the front open. So they are mostly clothed and it's a little bit more about cleavage than nudity. Plus at least a few of the avatars I've seen had more of a tough chick look to them than a sexy one.
3. In the right/wrong pose, a woman with a DDD cup and a tight shirt is just as good/bad as cleavage. So if there were more prudish interests at stake here, why not keep every female PC a B cup? That actually might keep women who don't like PCs with big busts for leaving the game... ie it's less offensive to them.
4. What's the point of letting us see characters in their undies to begin with only to tell us a screen or two later: don't forget to put your shirt on? I mean CCP could have started everyone off in a bodysuit (and those things can be kinda sexy too) or something and they've had plenty of time before now to think about this.
As someone who's done QA work before, this one kinda bugs me the most. To me it means decisions are either based on whimsy or CCP doesn't have their act together in some fashion or another. What's going on up there? If this was a problem, why did it make it all the way to release?
4a. I know the icons are small, but why are there half naked strippers/prostitutes in the game as things you can move around? I mean seriously. If you want to go a prudish route that's fine, but at least get rid of the half naked hookers in the process. Why should I as a player have to face this sudden mea culpa that doesn't fit with other things I've seen?
It just seems really weird to me. Some people might not like a little cleavage, but it's hardly the worst game out there in terms of clothing and there are other things in EVE I'd consider worse. Plus I can't make any sort of rhyme or reason out of it and I'm left scratching my head.
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Kazrael Starseeker
The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.01.31 08:41:00 -
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It such a minor thing, but it hints about CCP's vision for a younger player base.
Even in a kiddy game like WOW you can walk around in your underwear. But you can't in Eve?
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Maxx Overseer
Gallente Decrypt Enterprise
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Posted - 2011.01.31 14:34:00 -
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yes if someone wants to run around in there undies let them,, gee they cover more than the 50's bathing suit.
I'm waiting for the thongs soon, hmm even the man thong, women love that --- --- ---
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Zarutha
The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.02.01 07:40:00 -
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Agreed
Eve is a sandbox, you make your own future, except you have to wear a shirt. ( eve's new ad campaign)
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00383988003
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Posted - 2011.02.04 07:09:00 -
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bump
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Larkonis TrassIer
State Breast Inspectorate
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Posted - 2011.02.04 20:57:00 -
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I support this topic.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2011.02.04 21:27:00 -
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counter-support
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2011.02.04 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Che Biko on 04/02/2011 22:55:53 Oh no, hired goons bumping treads with "counter support". Guess I should support this one then. Hmm, why the heck would anyone bump a thread he doesn't support?
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Darveses
printcraft
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Posted - 2011.02.05 03:46:00 -
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Down with stylefascism, I refuse to wear a shirt.
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Revan Neferis
Propaganda Due
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Posted - 2011.02.05 16:01:00 -
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Sure thing.
Originally by: Jade Constantine Why-o-why are our enemies so universally poor?
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Cyn0 A17
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Posted - 2011.02.05 18:03:00 -
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If they make it rated m this game will probly become over populated with 5 year olds who think we should add space elves or something. Also on that note please make it so we dont have to wear pants.
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Jarimir
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.02.07 13:38:00 -
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This does seem a bit ridiculous with all the killing and slave taking, stealing, drugs and prostitutes in the game. The current state that some avatars seem to exist in where they have at least one layer on their top and bottom seems sufficient to me.
Let's hope this petition gets loud enough and heard by the right people.
CCP is going to drive away more of the player base that is of the right age to play this game than the people that are young enough to warrant protecting with these silly and extreme messures.
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Erika Bronz
The Wyld Hunt The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2011.02.07 16:29:00 -
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Also i want mini-skirts
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Fawksy Chica
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Posted - 2011.02.07 18:32:00 -
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Chicks like me need half-shirts too. So sexeh!
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aetherguy881
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Posted - 2011.02.07 21:33:00 -
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+1 for exotic dancers! ------------------- Always remember this about EVE:
Life is cheap, or 15 bucks a month. |
Plutonian
Intransigent
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Posted - 2011.02.08 03:41:00 -
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Supported. |
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Mira Robinson
Arkons of Myth
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Posted - 2011.02.08 05:17:00 -
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Supported.
Eve is too unforgiving a game to be casualized down for the younger crowd. ----------------------------- Welcome to EVE. Ship happens. |
Mona X
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.02.08 16:33:00 -
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Supported.
Join Eve-Online, meet interesting people, grief them. |
Maxsim Goratiev
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.02.08 17:10:00 -
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i am not asking for naked boobs, but gimme a fking minishirt!
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Ahsekuaw
Brother Theo's Monastery The Ancients.
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Posted - 2011.02.08 19:22:00 -
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Supported as uzi's clash with t-shirts.
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