| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Audrey Carrington
Gallente
Avoid Paying Taxes
   |
Posted - 2011.01.29 17:52:00 -
[1]
Hello! I am new to EVE and I have been flying an Imicus class Gallente Frigate on the recommendation of the people in the New Citizens forum. I am using a Medium Shield Extender I and a 1MN Microwarpdrive I in the middle spots, and 2 75mm railguns in the top spots. I used to use a 1MN Afterburner I module, but I like the bigger burst of speed now that I've switched.
I really like my three light scout drones. I usually just fly away from the bad guys and let my drones eat them up while I'm out of their range. I like that I don't have to pay much attention to my capacitor charge because my shields don't use it. I have never done a Level 2 mission yet but I want to soon. I don't know if my Imicus will handle it though and I wanted your opinions.
Thank you!
|
Gianath
Gallente
Gallentian Legitimate Businessmen
|
Posted - 2011.01.29 17:55:00 -
[2]
You should have received a catalyst and the destroyer skillbook while doing the tutorial missions. I would recommend using that instead, as it can carry a lot more guns and armor.
You might be able to speed tank a few level 2s with just the drone doing damage, but there will be a lot more frigates and destroyers targeting you and you will need to warp out a lot to repair. A destroyer is a little more forgiving of damage and able to dish out a lot more firepower.
|
Audrey Carrington
Gallente
Avoid Paying Taxes
|
Posted - 2011.01.29 18:03:00 -
[3]
I did get a destroyer Catalyst, but I reprocessed it because I did not like the way it looked. I also did not like the fact(s) that it relies entirely on guns and can only fit one light scout drone. If I want to keep using drones, then should I just wait and upgrade to a cruiser Vexor?
|
Iakop
Gallente
Insanity Reigns
|
Posted - 2011.01.29 18:07:00 -
[4]
From my experience with level 2's as long as you stay more then 45 km away from the rats you do not need a tank at all.
If you want/have to use guns to assist your drones with damage an afterburner will help you tanking cruisers and battlecruisers in that case a med shield extender helps buffering the damage taken when you approach, i would suggest blasters in that case due to higher damage and sligtly easier fittings.
Not sure if the shorter approachtime will be enough to compensate the signature bloat from the mwd tough.
Sounds good enough to try it tough.
|
Obsession Paranoia
|
Posted - 2011.01.29 19:15:00 -
[5]
Sounds like you know what you're doing.
Head for a Vexor, and keep the drone skills high. Gallente can focus drones and do all the missions easily.
Do you have EVEMon? All new players should get it, it's fantastic for skill plans, requirements, everything. You can download it -
http://evemon.static.battleclinic.com/builds/installers/EVEMon-install-1.3.3.2418.exe
You can get your API key for it -
http://www.eveonline.com/api/default.asp
|
Anderson Thorpe
|
Posted - 2011.01.29 19:24:00 -
[6]
Level 2 missions can definitely be done in a frigate, but you need to pay attention:
- Make sure you handle one group of NPCs at a time, to avoid getting mobbed
- Keep moving to make yourself a harder target -- speed is probably your best defence in a frigate
- Don't forget to recall your drones if you need to warp out to repair up!
Getting to a Vexor + T2 drones as soon as possible will give you so much more flexibility as a drone boat though - carrying spare drones and difference sizes.
|
Audrey Carrington
Gallente
Avoid Paying Taxes
|
Posted - 2011.01.29 20:20:00 -
[7]
 Originally by: Obsession Paranoia
Sounds like you know what you're doing.
Head for a Vexor, and keep the drone skills high. Gallente can focus drones and do all the missions easily.
Do you have EVEMon? All new players should get it, it's fantastic for skill plans, requirements, everything. You can download it -
http://evemon.static.battleclinic.com/builds/installers/EVEMon-install-1.3.3.2418.exe
You can get your API key for it -
http://www.eveonline.com/api/default.asp
Thank you very much for that link to EVEMon. I just installed it and I'm looking at the training times needed for various things. This has actually helped me with another question I asked in another forum, regarding Industrial class ships. The item browser and ship browser in the skill planning window is really helpful since it lets me see things more easily than the in-game Market browser. You are just terrific! This tool is a wonderful boon.
|
Audrey Carrington
Gallente
Avoid Paying Taxes
|
Posted - 2011.01.29 20:25:00 -
[8]
Originally by: Anderson Thorpe
Level 2 missions can definitely be done in a frigate, but you need to pay attention:
- Make sure you handle one group of NPCs at a time, to avoid getting mobbed
- Keep moving to make yourself a harder target -- speed is probably your best defence in a frigate
- Don't forget to recall your drones if you need to warp out to repair up!
Getting to a Vexor + T2 drones as soon as possible will give you so much more flexibility as a drone boat though - carrying spare drones and difference sizes.
Can you explain what you mean by the thing about speed being my best defence? I have used my Afterburner, and now my Microwarpdrive, to get far away from the enemy so that he can't hit me. Is that what you meant, or is there more to it? And as to recalling drones, that is a hard lesson that I still don't think I've fully learned. I've left my drones behind at least twice, and didn't realize it until I warped to the next mission and found myself without any drones. That's always an awkward feeling for me.
|
Sam Brockson
Gallente
|
Posted - 2011.01.29 21:23:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Audrey Carrington
Originally by: Anderson Thorpe
Level 2 missions can definitely be done in a frigate, but you need to pay attention:
- Make sure you handle one group of NPCs at a time, to avoid getting mobbed
- Keep moving to make yourself a harder target -- speed is probably your best defence in a frigate
- Don't forget to recall your drones if you need to warp out to repair up!
Getting to a Vexor + T2 drones as soon as possible will give you so much more flexibility as a drone boat though - carrying spare drones and difference sizes.
Can you explain what you mean by the thing about speed being my best defence? I have used my Afterburner, and now my Microwarpdrive, to get far away from the enemy so that he can't hit me. Is that what you meant, or is there more to it? And as to recalling drones, that is a hard lesson that I still don't think I've fully learned. I've left my drones behind at least twice, and didn't realize it until I warped to the next mission and found myself without any drones. That's always an awkward feeling for me.
There are two kinds of speed tanking. What you have mentioned sounds like you kite the NPC's, using the microwarpdrive/afterburner to keep distance. Then there is speed tanking, which utilizes a combination of the signature of your ship and speed to maintain a high transversal verses the speed and direction of your target - which is related more towards pvp combat then pve, but still fesible. A microwarpdrive will greatly increase your signature to off set the massive boost in speed it grants, making it easier for turrets and missiles to hit for more damage - which is not really a problem in missions; provided you don't run the microwarpdrive while staying still (I have been guilty of tha a few times ).
When you do advance to level 2's, I suggest you upgrade to a Vexor and then to a Myrmidon or Ishtar for level 3s, while learning to Armor tank. It's not that an Imicus can't do level 2's and above (I know a guy that does lvl 4s in one), it just starts to take far longer to do them in a frigate then a bigger ship that can deal out more damage.
|
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
|
Posted - 2011.01.30 00:56:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Sam Brockson
When you do advance to level 2's, I suggest you upgrade to a Vexor and then to a Myrmidon or Ishtar for level 3s, while learning to Armor tank.
Or, rather, just go for a Dominix. Once again, there is no reason to choose a Myrmidon over a Dominix if all you're doing is missions. A Dominix can out-tank a Myrmidon and easily out-gank it. It's also much easier on fitting skills.
And an Ishtar is quite the haul to train compared to either of the above so pass on that for now as well.
Originally by: Sam Brockson
It's not that an Imicus can't do level 2's and above (I know a guy that does lvl 4s in one), it just starts to take far longer to do them in a frigate then a bigger ship that can deal out more damage.
Erm. No. You don't know anyone who can do L4s in an Imicus. It simply doesn't have the DPS even if you could somehow mangle an obnoxiously good range tank on it. You're thinking of the Ishkur, which is in fact perfectly viable for most L4s. It's just a painfully slow way of completing them.
|
Sam Brockson
Gallente
|
Posted - 2011.01.31 16:16:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Zhilia Mann
Or, rather, just go for a Dominix. Once again, there is no reason to choose a Myrmidon over a Dominix if all you're doing is missions. A Dominix can out-tank a Myrmidon and easily out-gank it. It's also much easier on fitting skills.
And an Ishtar is quite the haul to train compared to either of the above so pass on that for now as well.
A Myrmidon is a far better choice for running level 3's quicker then a Dominix. The Dominix is decent for level 4's, but overkill and a slow ass brick for level 3's without decent support skills.
Originally by: Sam Brockson
It's not that an Imicus can't do level 2's and above (I know a guy that does lvl 4s in one), it just starts to take far longer to do them in a frigate then a bigger ship that can deal out more damage.
Originally by: Zhilia Mann
Erm. No. You don't know anyone who can do L4s in an Imicus. It simply doesn't have the DPS even if you could somehow mangle an obnoxiously good range tank on it. You're thinking of the Ishkur, which is in fact perfectly viable for most L4s. It's just a painfully slow way of completing them.
Yes, I do someone who does level 4's in an Imicus, probably most like he doesn't do the big ones like Blockade or AE, but the smaller ones like Duo of Death for the challenge. 3 drones backed by decent skills will eventually chew through anything, but I did mention an Imicus is painfully slow for anything beyond a level 1 and would never personally try it myself lacking the patience to do so.
|
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
|
Posted - 2011.01.31 18:54:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Sam Brockson
A Myrmidon is a far better choice for running level 3's quicker then a Dominix. The Dominix is decent for level 4's, but overkill and a slow ass brick for level 3's without decent support skills.
How is the Myrm faster? You can easily get enough tank with either but have more room for gank on the Domi. Whether it's better drones, more damage mods (which makes a difference even if both are using unbonused guns), or easier fitting on a MWD to get to rare long-travel gates, the Domi wins out.
Originally by: Sam Brockson
Yes, I do someone who does level 4's in an Imicus, probably most like he doesn't do the big ones like Blockade or AE, but the smaller ones like Duo of Death for the challenge. 3 drones backed by decent skills will eventually chew through anything, but I did mention an Imicus is painfully slow for anything beyond a level 1 and would never personally try it myself lacking the patience to do so.
That's... ******ed. Putting at max 63 drone DPS (with augmented Hobs none the less) on target won't break many BS tanks without luck on the rat rep RNG. After some consideration I decided against lol-running the SoE arc in one (and I'm not sure if it would break Dagan in any sane amount of time in the first place). But whatever floats his boat.
|
Etrias Jhozah
Adhocracy Incorporated
|
Posted - 2011.01.31 19:35:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Sam Brockson
Yes, I do someone who does level 4's in an Imicus...
No, you don't.
|
Sam Brockson
Gallente
|
Posted - 2011.01.31 20:49:00 -
[14]
Edited by: Sam Brockson on 31/01/2011 20:52:45
Originally by: Zhilia Mann
Originally by: Sam Brockson
A Myrmidon is a far better choice for running level 3's quicker then a Dominix. The Dominix is decent for level 4's, but overkill and a slow ass brick for level 3's without decent support skills.
How is the Myrm faster? You can easily get enough tank with either but have more room for gank on the Domi. Whether it's better drones, more damage mods (which makes a difference even if both are using unbonused guns), or easier fitting on a MWD to get to rare long-travel gates, the Domi wins out.
To name a few, speed and lock times, training skills for cap management, tracking of large guns verses the large abundance of cruisers and lack there of battleships in level 3s - We are talking about level 3s, cause you know, the OP is rather new and just advanced to level 2s. Anytime you mention level 4 or battleship to a newb, thier eyes light up and they want the other; ending up with a wreck because their too inexperienced to be flying in a battleship and/or level 4. Level 3's are stupid easy enough that a low SP character can get their feet wet with a battlecruiser and finish a mission without much loss. The Myrmidon is easy to learn with and easier to fit with tank/damage over a Vexor without being too skill intensive as a Dominix.
Originally by: Zhilia Mann
Originally by: Sam Brockson
Yes, I do someone who does level 4's in an Imicus, probably most like he doesn't do the big ones like Blockade or AE, but the smaller ones like Duo of Death for the challenge. 3 drones backed by decent skills will eventually chew through anything, but I did mention an Imicus is painfully slow for anything beyond a level 1 and would never personally try it myself lacking the patience to do so.
That's... ******ed. Putting at max 63 drone DPS (with augmented Hobs none the less) on target won't break many BS tanks without luck on the rat rep RNG. After some consideration I decided against lol-running the SoE arc in one (and I'm not sure if it would break Dagan in any sane amount of time in the first place). But whatever floats his boat.
Originally by: Etrias Jhozah
Originally by: Sam Brockson
Yes, I do someone who does level 4's in an Imicus...
No, you don't.
Yes, I do. I'm not gonna start a ****ing contest about what someone else does for kicks; he flies an Imicus in level 4s - his choice, his fun.
|
Rich Aurillia
|
Posted - 2011.02.01 00:09:00 -
[15]
I love the fact that you shredded your Catalyst because it's ugly !
Like the others said, you can do level 2's in an Imicus, but that ships main role is as a scanning ship (or scout I suppose) and so the ship bonuses are geared toward that. You usually want to make full benefit of your ship's bonuses.
You will rock level 2's in a Vexor, train those drone skills (drones V right now!!!!) and don't worry, eventually recalling your drones will become second nature.
I also respectfully disagree with jumping into a Dominix. Domi is VERY expensive when fully outfitted, takes a while to train for all the support skills, and is SLOW!!! By the time you have mastered your Vexor, you'll slip right into a Myrmidon and lay waste to level 3 missions (Myrm is such a great ship and it's not ugly so you won't have to melt it!)
|
Khanh'rhh
Caldari
Chaos Theory Exploration
|
Posted - 2011.02.01 02:53:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Audrey Carrington
I did get a destroyer Catalyst, but I reprocessed it because I did not like the way it looked.
You're well on your way to great things :)
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |