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Dramorn
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Posted - 2011.01.31 16:04:00 -
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So what happened to ransoming? I thought that was part of the whole being a pirate thing, but I've never seen or heard of it actually happening.
Like last night, perfect opportunity for someone to get ransom off me, but instead it was just a straight up pop n pod. (BTW, thanks CCP for whatever made it so I couldn't gate jump in my pod, even thought I was way less than 2500m from the gate.)
So, any of you pirates actually ransom, or is it just a fairy tale thing? And if you do ransom, do you let your prey go if they pay, or blow em up anyway?
(inb4 tears, carebear, etc. I'm trying not to be carebear, but y'all keep blowing my **** up)
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Syndryna
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Posted - 2011.01.31 16:11:00 -
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If we feel like it, sure. If not, no. Pods taste so yummy. It's hard to resist.
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Ikka Sunto
506972617465
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Posted - 2011.01.31 16:14:00 -
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True. Depends on the pilot. Some don't need the isk, so they pod. Others just like the killmails. If you get jumped, convo the pirate quick to see if he'll ransom you.
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2011.01.31 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Dav Varan on 31/01/2011 16:15:30
 Originally by: Dramorn
So what happened to ransoming? I thought that was part of the whole being a pirate thing, but I've never seen or heard of it actually happening.
Like last night, perfect opportunity for someone to get ransom off me, but instead it was just a straight up pop n pod. (BTW, thanks CCP for whatever made it so I couldn't gate jump in my pod, even thought I was way less than 2500m from the gate.)
So, any of you pirates actually ransom, or is it just a fairy tale thing? And if you do ransom, do you let your prey go if they pay, or blow em up anyway?
(inb4 tears, carebear, etc. I'm trying not to be carebear, but y'all keep blowing my **** up)
Ransom are rare on gates.
You could just stall for time and then jump out.
If you want ransom make sure to get ganked in a belt next time.
+ your pod is worth BC points.
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DoctorWu
Caldari
Black Mesa Mercenaries
The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.01.31 16:19:00 -
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I will often offer to ransom if the pod isn't within jump range, and will honor it.....but if the pod tries to burn to the gate before I get my money, I take their corpse instead.
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Dramorn
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Posted - 2011.01.31 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Dav Varan
+ your pod is worth BC points.
Wonder what the game would be like without BC.
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Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.01.31 16:37:00 -
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Typically the only time you will get ransomed on a gate, is if you are heavily webbed a decent distance from the gate and if the pies have enough tank/logistics to deal with gate guns while they are trying to ransom you.
It's far more likely to get ransomed somewhere else that doesn't give you the ability to jump out or dock up.
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Kikkoman6
Amarr
NON PROPERO
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Posted - 2011.01.31 17:26:00 -
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When your ship explodes your pod leaves it and it is considered a session change. So anything you normally wouldn't be able to do, including dock or activate gates, won't work until the 30sec timer is up.
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Pellit1
Caldari
Fatality.
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Posted - 2011.01.31 17:52:00 -
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I always ransom unless the pilot in question is a pilot I simply want podded or He has a bounty on him.
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BOOST FALCONS. Nerf whiners.
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TipsyMcStagger
Caldari
Spruillo Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.31 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: TipsyMcStagger on 31/01/2011 17:59:01
Offering ransoms is more trouble than its worth and asking 4 1 is for nancys and europeans. Dont be a nancy take it like a man.
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Kitty McKitty
Gallente
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.01.31 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: TipsyMcStagger
Edited by: TipsyMcStagger on 31/01/2011 17:59:01
Offering ransoms is more trouble than its worth and asking 4 1 is for nancys and europeans. Dont be a nancy take it like a man.
You have to be able to stay alive in order to ransom, I guess that's why you don't like the idea.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.01.31 18:05:00 -
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Pods insta-warp out.
Whomever you caught was either doing it wrong, or is very new. Both situations usually means they wouldn't have any ISK to pay ransoms anyhow.
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TipsyMcStagger
Caldari
Spruillo Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.31 18:05:00 -
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And dont convo them unless its to discuss their mom or their sexuality or their moms sexuality which can be done in local easier
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Commander Disarray
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Posted - 2011.01.31 18:33:00 -
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Out of curiosity, how difficult is it to pod someone? I imagine that the lock time on a pod is pretty long due to its small size, and align time for the pod is instant. My guess is by using a smart bomb, but you'd have to be pretty close to the ship before it blew up. Maybe use electronic mods to lock faster but you'd be giving up those slots for something that could have been more useful?
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Lost Greybeard
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Posted - 2011.01.31 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Disarray
Out of curiosity, how difficult is it to pod someone?
In High/Low, it's pretty hard to get a pod and survive. Unless you're in a boosted interceptor or something, getting a lock on a pod generally is a result of the pod pilot screwing up.
In High/Low you can get a pod and _not_ survive easily enough, just pop one of the area effect energy weapons when their ship goes boom.
In null, pod kills are essentially guaranteed, since you probably caught the ship using a warp bubble in the first place, and thus they ain't going anywhere. But then, pirates are uncommon in null, kills are usually about defending your turf, which means that podding them back to their clone tank is necessary if you don't want 'em back in five minutes.
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Brynhilda
Amarr
Gun Metal Hit Sqaud
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Posted - 2011.01.31 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Disarray
Out of curiosity, how difficult is it to pod someone? I imagine that the lock time on a pod is pretty long due to its small size, and align time for the pod is instant. My guess is by using a smart bomb, but you'd have to be pretty close to the ship before it blew up. Maybe use electronic mods to lock faster but you'd be giving up those slots for something that could have been more useful?
Locking pods have a number of factors. The higher scan resolution you have, the less time it is to lock one. Smaller ships have a higher Scan Resolution than larger ships but you can fit on Sensor Boosters to increase it. Smartbombing also works but its rather dangerous in High Sec.
In Null Sec, most folks tend to use a Dic or Hic to prevent Pods from warping out.
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Griznatch
Gallente
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.01.31 19:31:00 -
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any time ive tried to ransom a pod they either say no or they say they cant afford it (usually 50 to 100mil depending on the age of their toon) so i just quit tryin. being red in everyones overview is worth more than the isk anyhow as far as im concerned
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.01.31 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jovan Geldon on 31/01/2011 19:40:12
Originally by: Dramorn
BTW, thanks CCP for whatever made it so I couldn't gate jump in my pod, even thought I was way less than 2500m from the gate
Nothing to do with distance. If your ship gets blown up you get a session change timer, so you can't jump for 30 seconds.
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SXyWhile
Gallente
Echo Roaming Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.31 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: SXyWhile on 31/01/2011 19:51:16
There are some corporations that make money by ransoming. There aren't many that actually are honorable. Most pirate corporations like Veto will ransom then destroy your ship anyways. I wouldn't bother paying any ransoms if ever given the opportunity. There are too many scumbags in this game.
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Zeromentor
Private Renegade Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.31 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Zeromentor on 31/01/2011 20:02:58
I ransom people whenever possible, as it's my only source of income outside of their modules (or corp scams).
Sadly, this has a negative side to it, which causes "real" pirates to laugh at you, and PvPers to think you are a slob or unproffessional newb-ganker.
Why? Look at my battleclinic. Only those that don't pay (or can't) end up on my killboard, and the rest wander off through the nearest gate with a messed-up-but-still-flying ship.
So if the "real" pirate has a mission running alt or something similar and makes their money that way never expect a ransom unless they think you're a bait ship or they have to get out ASAP (incoming blob, etc).
Plus, some people like internet points more than money.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.01.31 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Patient 2428190
Pods insta-warp out.
Whomever you caught was either doing it wrong, or is very new. Both situations usually means they wouldn't have any ISK to pay ransoms anyhow.
Sometimes lag + insta lock will get you. 
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Ceq Lysander
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.01 01:18:00 -
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The problem with ransoming is, you let those juicy, succulent frozen corpses get away.
Protein's hard to come by in space, and they don't go bad for ages.
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Rawrclaw
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Posted - 2011.02.01 01:34:00 -
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the reason is simple, no one ever pays, or they take too damn long, like they got better things to do than save themselves. it goes like this
- they tell you to **** off and die
- they decline invite to convo or unresponsive in local
- they take 1-2 mintues to accept invite and then take 30-40 seconds to reply to any question
- they try and escape while talking
- they say they don't have the money
all of these are good reasons why its a pain in the ass, you do it to yourselves, blame your fellow carebears
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Von Sauerdieter
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Posted - 2011.02.01 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dramorn
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Like last night, perfect opportunity for someone to get ransom off me, but instead it was just a straight up pop n pod. (BTW, thanks CCP for whatever made it so I couldn't gate jump in my pod, even thought I was way less than 2500m from the gate.)
you sir, are an idiot !
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Ildryn
do you
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.02.01 14:55:00 -
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I used to ransom now and then.
It really depended on the target.
It worked about 30% of the time.
I was in a position to be ransomed...i paid. Then i was promptly asked to pay again.
They dishonored me.
So now i don't ask. Everyone i can catch dies. To hell with your hard work and fittings. To hell with your implants.
Not enough honor ransoms to make it worth the time. To hell with ransoming. 
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2011.02.01 20:01:00 -
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I sometimes ask for a ransom. Sometimes I get paid (rarely). Whether or not the ransom is paid the target dies. I'm aware of quite a few pirate corps that instruct their members to always honor ransoms in the hope that the eve community, collectively, will think that ransoms are generally honored. I think that's silly. Usually I'm hunting transports and the loot they carry. I'm more interested in the loot but if they'll fork over an extra 1-200 mil that's great. If someone were to pay a ransom my curiosity about what they are protecting goes way up. I need to know. It's like being a kid on christmas EvE wondering whats in this box. I have to unwrap it. I guess the moral of this story is don't pay ransoms. |
Deladian
Gallente
FLA5HY RED
The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.02.02 12:30:00 -
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flashy red still ask for ransoms and also honour them after.
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Professor Terror
Caldari
Sinners.
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Posted - 2011.02.02 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Dramorn
So what happened to ransoming? I thought that was part of the whole being a pirate thing, but I've never seen or heard of it actually happening.
Like last night, perfect opportunity for someone to get ransom off me, but instead it was just a straight up pop n pod. (BTW, thanks CCP for whatever made it so I couldn't gate jump in my pod, even thought I was way less than 2500m from the gate.)
So, any of you pirates actually ransom, or is it just a fairy tale thing? And if you do ransom, do you let your prey go if they pay, or blow em up anyway?
(inb4 tears, carebear, etc. I'm trying not to be carebear, but y'all keep blowing my **** up)
They nerfed ransoms in the last patch dude. Now YOU have to ask the pirate for HIS isk before he pods you. Fact.
Seriously. Ransoms are quite common. If you're not offered a ransom there could be any number of situational reasons for it. As crappy as my luck is with loot drops I'd love to get more ransoms. Sometimes outside factors make it more prudent to just shoot and scoot though.
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Cyprus Black
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2011.02.02 14:09:00 -
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I still try to ransom, but every time I do the victim speaks broken English or doesn't speak at all. Once had one victim in a BC who, when ransomed, spoke very little and of what he did say it was gibberish. I almost thought he was shouting his grocery list at me.
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Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.02.02 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dramorn
Originally by: Dav Varan
+ your pod is worth BC points.
Wonder what the game would be like without BC.
The same as it is now.
Everybody uses EVE-kill.
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Your avatar makes me want to follow you to a rural farmstead, give you all my worldly goods and call you The Aiwha.
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