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UFCREF
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Posted - 2011.02.04 23:03:00 -
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Hey Everyone,
I am working on an idea I think people have tried before maybe but I would like to give it a go. It is a 1 vs 1 dueling High Sec competition. I realise the Middleweight and Heavyweight divisions may never work, but the other three have potential I hope. The possibility of interference makes more expensive fights impractical. Maybe I can set up a live stream so the fights can be watched from the ref's point of view. Everything will be recorded and calculated from eve to excel and back again (bets - win/loss record). Anyway's if you have any suggestions, tips or just plain want to tell me I am stupid, go for it! =P
Featherweight - Frigates
Lightweight - Destroyers
Welterweight - Cruisers
Middleweight - Battlecruisers
Heavyweight - Battleships
All ships must be tech 1, non-navy spec. Fight records will be recorded to decide who deserves a title fight.
Fighting Rules
1. Pilots will meet ref at designated warp gate. Pilots will fleet up with the UFC ref the referee will then warp the fleet to meet an arranged space decided on by the UFC ref. The fights will almost always held in 1.0 space.
2. Both pilots will jettison a container. The pilots will then take an item from the opposing playerÆs container. They will then proceed to orbit each other at 50 km.
3. Both fighters start the fight without lock at 50 km orbit distance from each other.
4. The ref will ask both fighters if they are ready to fight, both players will answer yes if ready or no and state the reason i.e. the other player has me locked already. The ref will then state fight in chat and players will battle until one is destroyed.
5. Podding is not acceptable behaviour.
6. After the battle the winning opponent can loot the destroyed opponent and may either decide to return it to the destroyed opponent or keep it.
Disqualification
1. If you disobey the ref purposefully in the fight
2. Podding an opponent
3. Warping out of the fight
If you are disqualified from a fight it will count as a loss against your record. Depending on the severity of the disqualification you may be banned from fighting in the ufc.
Spectators
While spectators are encouraged as people like to watch fights, they also have the ability to interfere with the fight. Pilots will have to decide beforehand if they want to allow spectators or not.
Betting Rules (It is not necessary to have bets for fights.)
Minimum bet is 100,000 ISK, please keep bets in even amounts of 100,000 intervals for example not 233,543 instead use 200,000 (makes it easier to type into excel =P).
All bets must be placed before the fight starts, bets placed after or incorrectly will be returned to owners. To place a bet simply add the name of the UFC ref to your contact list, right click on his name and click send money. A screen will appear with the amount and the reason, under the amount type anything you wish over 100,000 ISK and under the reason type either the name of the contestant you wish to win or use the numbers 1 or 2. 1 will represent the player who is first in alphabetical order, 2 will represent the player who is last in alphabetical order, example 1 Willtodie 2 Xtremez. In this manner betting can be done without the knowledge of competitors names.
If the fight was bet upon the winner is entitled to a portion of the bets. If the fight was interfered with the bets will be held and a re-match will take place as soon as possible at a different location. If the fighters cannot re-match all bets will be refunded.
Betting will be done on estimated odds and be updated depending on how betting is being done.
Title Fights
To be expanded upon.
Sponsoring Events and ad's
To be expanded upon
Thanks so much for reading
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UFCREF
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Posted - 2011.02.04 23:12:00 -
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Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar
The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.04 23:16:00 -
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there is already alliance tournament. I can guarantee that someone will turn up to **** it over. Such is eve.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.04 23:18:00 -
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 Originally by: Christopher AET
there is already alliance tournament. I can guarantee that someone will turn up to **** it over. Such is eve.
You mean there is no honour among thieves and griefers?
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UFCREF
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Posted - 2011.02.05 01:21:00 -
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Hey Christopher,
The alliance tourney is small squads fighting each other, this would be just 1 vs 1's. People could turn up and mess it up but when you warp into a safe spot for 5-10 mins in high sec space the likelyhood is lower and because the ships that would be used are relatively cheap, no harm or foul if they are blown up (one is going to be blown up anyway =P).
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.02.05 05:10:00 -
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I think this is a good idea. 1v1 battleship fights are pretty rare aside from questionable 'duels' in hisec with shady characters. Some people can afford the cost of them easily, but they'd be easier to scan down, which may be a bigger problem with them.
At any rate, it would be a good alternative to the alliance tournaments, for those who aren't in alliances or just like going 1v1. As long as you can cope with all the complications which are certain to happen.
Sincerely,
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Sharon Anne
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Posted - 2011.02.05 07:12:00 -
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Hmm sounds great, new EVE careers = fighters and bookies.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2011.02.05 08:46:00 -
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Problem is the starting conditions.
If you start at 50km the winners will be nanomissileships. You'd normally warp out, but with that being impossible your run of the mill caracal will simply nano up and spam missiles while gaining distance. Same goes for a kestrel, or a drake, or a raven.
It works in alliance tournament for two reasons, you have more ships allowing you to not only tackle foes but utilize ewar and spread out, and there are boundaries to the arena. Even then there's a noticable predominance of missile spamming ships darting out to the edge of the arena and orbiting there.
Parrots, commence!
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Kuhn Arashi
Caldari
Wrecking Shots
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.02.05 09:53:00 -
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I would love to see more regular tournament style game play in eve.
The alliance tournament is one of the highlights of EVE. watching it is very entertaining and the politics in the background from the alliances is always amusing.
However, some people cant afford the entry fees into the Alliance Tournament.
Having a minor league of sorts would be very entertaining in my opinion.
The problem comes from the nature of the inhabitants of this sandbox. if there is a group of people they can **** off for some giggles, they'll do it.
if there is money flow to interrupt, tears to be shed AND on stream online? people will be lining up to **** it up. 
I love the idea, but unless interference can be guaranteed to not butt-in. It wont work.
The only easy way I see this happening on a large scale, is CCP regulated. which might not fit the emergent nature they desire, but I would tune in and bet on streamed competitive duels.
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Jamaican Herbsman
I Love You Mary Jane
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Posted - 2011.02.05 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: UFCREF
4. The ref will ask both fighters if they are ready to fight, both players will answer yes if ready or no and state the reason i.e. the other player has me locked already. The ref will then state fight in chat and players will battle until one is destroyed.
For the ref, there's no way to check if some pilot has a lock on another. How would the ref know if a player is trying to get another pilot disqualified by lying he's being locked before the match.
As it is a tournament and there's no restrictions to fittings players tend to fit something to give them a little edge, which may give incensive for other players to grief. Especially if there's spectators, they can easily scan contestants' fittings. Spectators can also provide nice warp-ins for suicide gankers or neutral reppers. Too many loopholes to exploit IMO.
Originally by: NoNah
Problem is the starting conditions.
If you start at 50km the winners will be nanomissileships. You'd normally warp out, but with that being impossible your run of the mill caracal will simply nano up and spam missiles while gaining distance. Same goes for a kestrel, or a drake, or a raven.
Also this. There's no range restriction either. What if both players fly off the grid and ref cant see the fight anymore? Or can't lock both to see if there's some fishy going on (like neutral repping)?
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.05 12:11:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion to Events & Gatherings.
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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UFCREF
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Posted - 2011.02.09 19:18:00 -
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Hmm lots of replies,
Yes, I have thought about a lot of the different problem's that could arise and the initial starting orbit would be a large one. I can't figure out a good distance that would give one fitting an advantage over the other types of fittings you can make for ships. 50 km seemed a little long I realise we could shorten it to 25 km; I really donÆt know this is all an idea at this point.
Haha, thanks for the warning Kuhn Arashi, but if you are afraid of someone messing something up of yours in eve, you won't be playing much of the game just sitting in station. I realize people will want to screw with this idea and honestly I think dealing with it when it becomes a problem is the best way not, worrying about it beforehand because this thing isn't even close to popular enough =P.
The ref would not be checking to see if the pilots have each other locked beforehand that would be up to each opponent. And the fight wonÆt start until each opponent agrees so stalling by saying he has me locked when he doesnÆt is just wasting time; I guess they can do that if they want but they will only do it once.
Yes, spectators will be a problem especially if they are in the same corporation as the combatants and I am considering not allowing them and setting up an online feed instead (it is looking more and more likely this will be the only way people can watch).
Making a maximum distance from the referee is actually a good idea and one the ref can keep track of easily. It would create a much more interesting dynamic say 60 kilometres, that would make it more difficult for missile boats to just kite opponents.
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