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Suddenly Forums ForumKings Republic University Minmatar Republic 253	Posted - 2012.08.21 02:07:00 - [1] - Quote FW is just 2 sides farming each other while **** posting about how the other side sucks at pvp and are all a bunch of farmers. This stuff is truly CAOD worthy. Discuss.
Vordak Kallager Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance 396	Posted - 2012.08.21 04:27:00 - [2] - Quote Yes. *Sa souvraya niende misain ye.*
Bad Messenger Nasranite Watch Caldari State Capturing 202	Posted - 2012.08.21 09:33:00 - [3] - Quote New FW is still seeking its tactics, we have not seen all.
Dan Carter Murray 88	Posted - 2012.08.21 09:57:00 - [4] - Quote Popping ostingele (deep gal territory) and black frogging hella ships there was a good tactic. I recommended a similar tactic in a serious forum post for amarr which probably got ignored. next serious post will be asking specific amarr corps to drop FW and just pirate in that warzone. they don't want to participate and are simply using FW as a shield. Oh and def plexing ost isn't a big deal...because we fkng moved ther
Dread Pirate Pete Tribal Core Defiant Legacy 29	Posted - 2012.08.21 21:34:00 - [5] - Quote Looking at map statistics, there seems to be a fair couple of hundred fw ships getting blown up a day in fw systems. I posit someone must be using their l33t pvp skills to blow each other up here, possibly not the same pilots engaged in forum pvp.
kraiklyn Asatru T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan 9	Posted - 2012.08.21 23:12:00 - [6] - Quote Lies in FW ships only die to excessive pilot fail
Lord BryanII 6	Posted - 2012.08.21 23:20:00 - [7] - Quote sov war is just fighting over tech moons and the isk they provide insursions is just farming sites for isk plexing is just scanning down sites for isk/drops ratting is just farming rats for isk remove isk from the game and it will solve everything
Xolve Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 1034	Posted - 2012.08.23 19:10:00 - [8] - Quote Lord BryanII wrote: sov war is just fighting over tech moons and the isk they provide insursions is just farming sites for isk plexing is just scanning down sites for isk/drops ratting is just farming rats for isk remove isk from the game and it will solve everything Because you need sov to hold a tech moon, amirite? Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator.
Ashterothi Aideron Robotics 29	Posted - 2012.08.24 17:03:00 - [9] - Quote You can take the OP and replace FW with "null sec blocks" and not change the accuracy of the post at all.
AndromacheDarkstar Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate 120	Posted - 2012.10.13 09:14:00 - [10] - Quote Ive never farmed, nobody in our alliance farms, we get fights every day. stop complaining Fiscal Fisting, Amarr Militia Corp Recruiting Now - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2019004#post2019004 -á
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 527	Posted - 2012.10.14 05:03:00 - [11] - Quote AndromacheDarkstar wrote: Ive never farmed, nobody in our alliance farms, we get fights every day. stop complaining Shhh, don't let the secret out!
Veshta Yoshida PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 319	Posted - 2012.10.14 08:18:00 - [12] - Quote Bad Messenger wrote: New FW is still seeking its tactics, we have not seen all. Still playing that ragged old card, eh? "New FW" is not so new, coming up on nine months or something, time enough for the average human female to bring a child to term. Let me break it down for you into two simple points, pick one: 1. FW really is that shallow and the farm is all there is. Permanently invulnerable systems and swarms of gunless frigs being chased around by disillusioned veterans. 2. FW participants are the runts of the litter as it were, by far the 'slowest' group in Eve (read: ask doornails for advice before a FW participant). Incapable of grasping mechanics changes and adjusting their patterns accordingly even after more than six months. I know which one I'd like to believe in .. just sayin'
Dread Pirate Pete Tribal Core Defiant Legacy 71	Posted - 2012.10.14 16:10:00 - [13] - Quote Veshta Yoshida wrote: bittervet, bittervet Why are we fighting over FW being farmsville for one expansion cycle? Winter seems to be bringing many nice fixes to FW, as well as shaking up frigs, destroyers and cruisers. FW is and will continue being one of the premier places for small scale fights in small ships, and will only get better as the gunless merlins leave for greener pastures come winter. :)
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 527	Posted - 2012.10.14 17:48:00 - [14] - Quote The fact that plexing alts muck things up alot doesn't change the following statement: FW partipants who looks for pvp in FW plexes are both rich - and get lots of pew.
Trinkets friend Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance 479	Posted - 2012.10.15 02:34:00 - [15] - Quote Claiming to condense FW to a nutshell presumes most PW people have nuts. Taking submissions for "Trinkets friendly Advice Column" via evemail or private convo in-game. Anonymity sorta guaranteed.
Muad 'dib The Imperial Fedaykin 564	Posted - 2012.10.15 13:10:00 - [16] - Quote X Gallentius wrote: FW partipants who looks for pvp in FW plexes are both rich - and get lots of pew. confirming pvpers love orbiting buttons and shooting gunless incursus, because they drop billions in loot and LP every time. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 530	Posted - 2012.10.15 13:36:00 - [17] - Quote Confirming many bittervet FW players are just that - bitter.
Muad 'dib The Imperial Fedaykin 564	Posted - 2012.10.15 14:18:00 - [18] - Quote X Gallentius wrote: Confirming many bittervet FW players are just that - bitter. I feel sorry for the ones that arnt bitter, because they have no memories of a fun time, to be bitter about. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg
Samwise Everquest Gallentean Cavalry 0	Posted - 2012.10.17 00:47:00 - [19] - Quote I recently joined FW and all I can say is it has been awesome so far. Pew pew at every corner, hardly a dull moment. It really has me hooked on this game again. I had quit after moving to Nullsec with the promises of Rooks and Kinds PvP but instead found a bunch of carebears docking up at any sign of trouble. Gallente Militia grabs squid face and rapes it. I'm lovin' it.
IbanezLaney The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing 55	Posted - 2012.10.18 08:52:00 - [20] - Quote Samwise Everquest wrote: I recently joined FW and all I can say is it has been awesome so far. Pew pew at every corner, hardly a dull moment. It really has me hooked on this game again. I had quit after moving to Nullsec with the promises of Rooks and Kinds PvP but instead found a bunch of carebears docking up at any sign of trouble. Gallente Militia grabs squid face and rapes it. I'm lovin' it. Good move dude. Null sec living is the most boring way to play Eve. FW is great fun. CCP Just need to fix the bug where joining Minmatar FW removes all your high slots and puts active shield tanks on FKN EVERYTHING . Fix this **** See Sea Pea.
Machiavelli's Nemesis Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 28	Posted - 2012.10.18 10:46:00 - [21] - Quote Personally I'm not allowed to PvP until i've made my daily million LP sacrifice for the LP god. I WILL WORK HARDER
Bengal Bob Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 76	Posted - 2012.10.18 11:25:00 - [22] - Quote Veshta Yoshida wrote: Bad Messenger wrote: New FW is still seeking its tactics, we have not seen all. Still playing that ragged old card, eh? "New FW" is not so new, coming up on nine months or something, time enough for the average human female to bring a child to term. Let me break it down for you into two simple points, pick one: 1. FW really is that shallow and the farm is all there is. Permanently invulnerable systems and swarms of gunless frigs being chased around by disillusioned veterans. 2. FW participants are the runts of the litter as it were, by far the 'slowest' group in Eve (read: ask doornails for advice before a FW participant). Incapable of grasping mechanics changes and adjusting their patterns accordingly even after more than six months. I know which one I'd like to believe in .. just sayin' I dunno, we got attacked twice by the amarr whilst trying to do a lol roam: http://rust-in-pieces.org/kills/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16044 http://rust-in-pieces.org/kills/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16054 (sadly the rest got away) Now, I am not saying it is wise for the Amarr, but you know that if you undock EVE is more fun? Right? Not as much fun as RP on forums about winning despite appearances, but still fun. And now, a word from First General
Justin Cody Tri-gun Lost Obsession 33	Posted - 2012.10.19 05:46:00 - [23] - Quote IbanezLaney wrote: Samwise Everquest wrote: I recently joined FW and all I can say is it has been awesome so far. Pew pew at every corner, hardly a dull moment. It really has me hooked on this game again. I had quit after moving to Nullsec with the promises of Rooks and Kinds PvP but instead found a bunch of carebears docking up at any sign of trouble. Gallente Militia grabs squid face and rapes it. I'm lovin' it. Good move dude. Null sec living is the most boring way to play Eve. FW is great fun. CCP Just need to fix the bug where joining Minmatar FW removes all your high slots and puts active shield tanks on FKN EVERYTHING . Well yes...the ancillary boosters are OP and getting re-adjusted. Hopefully it puts back the "ancillary" in the ASB. The biggest issue in FW at the moment that I can see...and it will still be true after Retributions. PVEr's still don't have to clear plex rooms to get the button to finish. You still get to orbit 4 profit even if the button is closer to the warp-in. Only thing that will change is that people in ships that are fast enough will either burn away when someone simply hits local or warp off. Rats in there don't point you, web you...nothing. Even worse is the ability to farm missions with a cheap alt and do them with your DPS main...with the only downside being some standings loss. OH NOES PLEASE CCP NOT THAT! so, 1 faction on either side will continue to front-run, and there is zero incentive for the losing side to start winning. Nor should there be. The items available from each faction...aside from some ship hulls, are identical. +5's and +5% implants of nearly every kind are available no matter which side you're on. Zainou...a caldari corporation have implants in gallante, minmatar and amarr stores? shame shame. There's no scarcity of items. Generic implants like teh +5's are fine across all the LP stores, but corporate specific ones ought to be special. As it is...they are not. From a PvP persepctive it trends towards the winning side in PvE as we all want that delicious 1337 lootz! Why should I pay 1M LP for a Nav poc hull when I can pay 64K for a navy pest hull or even less for navy phoon?. It doesn't make any sense to every choose amarr in specific. Reasons not to choose amarr: 1) Turrets use cap 2) They don't REALLY use missiles or Drones 3) They don't ASB tank at all well 4) They don't have ship called the Hurricane 5) They are slow 6) They lock slowly 7) They have the worst tracking of any turret system (I dunno why a weapon that moves at the speed of light can't track...but it can't track) 8) Anything of value you can get from amarr FW you can also get from minmatar FW and you can get useful ships like the SFI and fleet phoon/pest. I love my Navpoc, but its uses are in large navpoc fleets. The Navy Omen is trash compared to the SFI in nearly every category except sensor strength. And the same can nearly be said for the fleet phoon vs nav geddy. Navy Caracal is probably one of the worst ships in game on top of that. So CCP...why should anyone fight for Amarr?
Muad 'dib The Imperial Fedaykin 567	Posted - 2012.10.19 10:01:00 - [24] - Quote Justin Cody wrote: So CCP...why should anyone fight for Amarr? We choose to fight for the Amarr. We choose to fight for the Amarr this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win one day. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg
Abyssum Invocat Justified Chaos 24	Posted - 2012.10.28 08:18:00 - [25] - Quote Xolve wrote: Lord BryanII wrote: sov war is just fighting over tech moons and the isk they provide insursions is just farming sites for isk plexing is just scanning down sites for isk/drops ratting is just farming rats for isk remove isk from the game and it will solve everything Because you need sov to hold a tech moon, amirite? Not necessarily, but you want sov if you have any hope of: defending the moon, re-fueling the POS, and transporting the tech.
Dan Carter Murray 161	Posted - 2012.10.28 08:37:00 - [26] - Quote Muad 'dib wrote: We choose to fight for the Amarr. We choose to fight for the Amarr this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win one day. If you read the above quote at a slow but determined pace while listening to this then you will agree with the following statement: Muad'dib for president
Shamus O'Reilly I Know Right 1	Posted - 2012.10.31 18:53:00 - [27] - Quote Abyssum Invocat wrote: Xolve wrote: Lord BryanII wrote: sov war is just fighting over tech moons and the isk they provide insursions is just farming sites for isk plexing is just scanning down sites for isk/drops ratting is just farming rats for isk remove isk from the game and it will solve everything Because you need sov to hold a tech moon, amirite? Not necessarily, but you want sov if you have any hope of: defending the moon, re-fueling the POS, and transporting the tech. there ARE lowsec techmoons you know that right? Though most of them are kind of owned by null alliances anyways so no point in adding it into the conversation here..
Abyssum Invocat Justified Chaos 24	Posted - 2012.11.01 01:10:00 - [28] - Quote Shamus O'Reilly wrote: Abyssum Invocat wrote: Xolve wrote: Lord BryanII wrote: sov war is just fighting over tech moons and the isk they provide insursions is just farming sites for isk plexing is just scanning down sites for isk/drops ratting is just farming rats for isk remove isk from the game and it will solve everything Because you need sov to hold a tech moon, amirite? Not necessarily, but you want sov if you have any hope of: defending the moon, re-fueling the POS, and transporting the tech. there ARE lowsec techmoons you know that right? Though most of them are kind of owned by null alliances anyways so no point in adding it into the conversation here.. Last I heard, they were all owned by PL.

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