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cyndrogen	Posted - 2011.02.15 07:23:00 - [1] Edited by: cyndrogen on 15/02/2011 07:23:55 Edited by: cyndrogen on 15/02/2011 07:23:26 I know this is really difficult for CCP to implement especially since it' sbeen 7 years now of eve online. Can you please for the LOVE of GOD add little BARS under the asteroid being mined so it goes red as it depletes? You know kind of like PVP? You lock a roid begin mined and after a cycle is done you see a damage progress bar, or god forbid a green bar, or even a fun rainbow bar? when the bar reache sfull red the asteroid is mined. WOW what a concept, yet would be so useful and train carebears for pvp.
cytheras wrath	Posted - 2011.02.15 07:46:00 - [2] hun, its called a survey scanner, it allows a pilot to measure the amount of minerals left in a asteroid. it takes up 1 mid slot, and its got a 22km range. tho a way distinguish which strip miner is on which asteroid, so when the roid is depleted, i can deactivate the right strip-miner. or even a way to "mark" certain roids as being mined by X or Y so i don't harvest the same roid as someone else.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2011.02.15 08:18:00 - [3] Fit a survery scanner that is what they are for. With one you can tell exactly what is left and when you can turn of your miners. As miss Wrath already stated the only real problem is with the inability to distinguish which module is being used on which target and that isn't a problem only when mining.
Whitehound The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.02.15 10:00:00 - [4] Great idea. --
Project 69	Posted - 2011.02.15 11:55:00 - [5] maybe add some more infos to the roids once the survey scanner is online. - Ore remaining - How many lasers are working on it - Estimated time of depletion
cyndrogen	Posted - 2011.02.15 21:24:00 - [6] Edited by: cyndrogen on 15/02/2011 21:28:09 Originally by: cytheras wrath hun, its called a survey scanner, it allows a pilot to measure the amount of minerals left in a asteroid. it takes up 1 mid slot, and its got a 22km range. tho a way distinguish which strip miner is on which asteroid, so when the roid is depleted, i can deactivate the right strip-miner. or even a way to "mark" certain roids as being mined by X or Y so i don't harvest the same roid as someone else. Please don't insult me with your idiotic insight. You think I have used mining for a year now and not know about the survey scanner? Get a life! Install some intelligence implants please before posting. What I suggested was a bar , just like PVP, it doesn't tell you the AMOUNT of ore it just gives you an approximation when the asteroid is about to pop. It is a VISUAL cue, rather then ore amount. My suggestion has NOTHING to do with AMOUNT of ore. Troll someplace else kid.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.02.15 22:02:00 - [7] Originally by: cyndrogen My suggestion has NOTHING to do with AMOUNT of ore. Yes it does. In fact, amount is the key thing you need to knowà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.16 03:48:00 - [8] Edited by: Barbara Nichole on 16/02/2011 03:48:58 Quote: maybe add some more infos to the roids once the survey scanner is online. - Ore remaining - How many lasers are working on it - Estimated time of depletion Anyone else see the problem with this request? Macro botters already have enough tools without access to this exact info. The last thing we need is to feed this activity.
cyndrogen	Posted - 2011.02.16 19:01:00 - [9] Originally by: Barbara Nichole Edited by: Barbara Nichole on 16/02/2011 03:48:58 Quote: maybe add some more infos to the roids once the survey scanner is online. - Ore remaining - How many lasers are working on it - Estimated time of depletion Anyone else see the problem with this request? Macro botters already have enough tools without access to this exact info. The last thing we need is to feed this activity. I'm not sure how little red bars would change anything? BOTS already hunt rats, so I don't see how your argument holds and water.
Amaroq Dricaldari Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.16 19:05:00 - [10] It also helps when you are painstakingly wasting your time on a cluster of ICe or on a Gas Cloud. Those things take FOREVER. -- As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires.
cyndrogen	Posted - 2011.02.16 23:12:00 - [11] Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari It also helps when you are painstakingly wasting your time on a cluster of ICe or on a Gas Cloud. Those things take FOREVER. You actually mined an entire ice roid by yourself? Want to join our corp? lol
Xe'Cara'eos	Posted - 2011.02.17 15:45:00 - [12] Bots are well aware of survey scanners, and quite capable of remembering which strip is on which roid, and (assuming they've got the scanner fitted) calculating the precise time (probably to 20 dp) to turn off said strip on the now dead roid... which human players don't have. I worked out a cubic equation in excel to 20 dp using 2 IF commands, and 50 rows. That's peanuts for a computer - it requires more calculations than that to type a single letter. Besides, scanners take up slot space which I then can't use in my covetor to tank rats. If you can group modules, I want to be able to name them with single letters too (at least the ones with extraneous effect)
Doctor Maxwell	Posted - 2011.02.17 19:07:00 - [13] Edited by: Doctor Maxwell on 17/02/2011 19:12:07 Originally by: Project 69 maybe add some more infos to the roids once the survey scanner is online. - Ore remaining - How many lasers are working on it - Estimated time of depletion i could see the scanners working better with somthing like this, instead of being a one time per run scanner, it is a module that can be activated, after activation on the asteroids itsef that our locked onto it'll give you more detailed information such as these bars that are so ontroversial in this thread, instead of being exact amounts of minerals because that seems a little farfetched to know exactly how much is in the rock, it'll be a bar of aporximate ore saturation that will adjusta as you mine t, unless you turn the scanning mopdule off and it all goes away. there is also another thread that is looking to get the belts revamped, although you and i may not agree with all of it, she proposes having deminishing roids as they are mined, this could both be for asthetic appeal and to help solve your issue with wanting bars. yes they won' be like training fo pv but if you want that join a corp who will train you to pvp.
cyndrogen	Posted - 2011.02.17 22:07:00 - [14] Edited by: cyndrogen on 17/02/2011 22:09:00 Originally by: Doctor Maxwell Edited by: Doctor Maxwell on 17/02/2011 19:12:07 Originally by: Project 69 maybe add some more infos to the roids once the survey scanner is online. - Ore remaining - How many lasers are working on it - Estimated time of depletion i could see the scanners working better with somthing like this, instead of being a one time per run scanner, it is a module that can be activated, after activation on the asteroids itsef that our locked onto it'll give you more detailed information such as these bars that are so ontroversial in this thread, instead of being exact amounts of minerals because that seems a little farfetched to know exactly how much is in the rock, it'll be a bar of aporximate ore saturation that will adjusta as you mine t, unless you turn the scanning mopdule off and it all goes away. there is also another thread that is looking to get the belts revamped, although you and i may not agree with all of it, she proposes having deminishing roids as they are mined, this could both be for asthetic appeal and to help solve your issue with wanting bars. yes they won' be like training fo pv but if you want that join a corp who will train you to pvp. A module? Activated? Why? When you fit your guns to a ship do you "activate" a module to see the bars? No! PVP is an illusion and an inappropriate term there is NO pvp in eve. In over a year now I had ONE, ONE pvp encounter, the rest were team fights. Player vs player should really mean people vs people, or people vs player etc. Anyway, that's my two cents.
Centri Sixx	Posted - 2011.02.17 22:33:00 - [15] Dont see why not, just add it to the tactical overview.
Doctor Maxwell	Posted - 2011.02.18 03:57:00 - [16] Cyndrogen, nobody here is missing what your saying, and your sarcastic self answered questions in response to my previous post were uncalled for. What your doing is comparing mining and pvp or bvp (blob vs player). This is completly moronic. There is nothing similar between the two, one you need actual fitting knowledge and general skills to do well, the other you need skills to do better but your not dead if you don't. There is no comparison, wanting a 'hp' bar for an asteroid isn't needed because of things like scanners, to want something that will figure it out and display it for you is lazy? For that just use a scanner like somebody suggested, i merely offered a, compromise if you will. where you can get your stinkin bars and where it still requires use of a scanner.. Sorry for getting rude, im a bit defencive because of your last post but im sure this will fuel more. as for this suggestion i give it a -1.
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.18 05:37:00 - [17] Originally by: cyndrogen Macro botters already have enough tools without access to this exact info. The last thing we need is to feed this activity. I'm not sure how little red bars would change anything? BOTS already hunt rats, so I don't see how your argument holds and water. What does hunting rats have to do with mining ...at all? It holds water by virtue of the fact that dials that provide a percentage of completion have been used successfully in the past in macros.

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