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Yxalitis	Posted - 2011.02.16 04:37:00 - [1] Tech II stuff has been around for quite some time now...why haven't the factions or officers who had such a great experience modifying the old Tech 1 stuff back in the day got around to doing the same for tech 2 stuff. It seems like there are a million variations for tech 1, but if you want to use a tech 2 module, there's one choice. Of course the only real necessity for this that I can think of is turrets. If you want to fire Adv ammo, there's one type of turret, and one only to choose from. There may be other attributes that only Tech 2 modules offer, but right now only advanced weapons come to mind. I just thought it was about time to see some RSS Tech 2 Autocannons, or Caldari Navy HAM II's, or whatever... I don't believe in signatures, not even really cool ones like "This signature intentionaly left blank"
Mister Normal Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.02.16 05:01:00 - [2] Could work. Increase the optimal or fall off for less damage for projectiles? Or faster tracking perhaps? It would make things pretty interesting.
Corporal Punishment08 NosWaffle Nostradamus Effect	Posted - 2011.02.16 19:23:00 - [3] Officer mods are expensive enough as it is. Can you imagine what a T2 officer mod would cost?? Wouldn't be worth it. _____________________________________ Real men corpse tank.
Corcyrus Endymion Caldari Excessum Corporation Excessum Gaming	Posted - 2011.02.16 19:48:00 - [4] Originally by: Corporal Punishment08 Officer mods are expensive enough as it is. Can you imagine what a T2 officer mod would cost?? Wouldn't be worth it. It would be worth exactly what the market will support. This argument is void.
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.16 19:55:00 - [5] Originally by: Corporal Punishment08 Officer mods are expensive enough as it is. Can you imagine what a T2 officer mod would cost?? Wouldn't be worth it. If anything, it would drive down the cost of "normal" Officer mods and T2 Officer would take their price point.
freshspree	Posted - 2011.02.16 20:02:00 - [6] Originally by: Target Painter Originally by: Corporal Punishment08 Officer mods are expensive enough as it is. Can you imagine what a T2 officer mod would cost?? Wouldn't be worth it. If anything, it would drive down the cost of "normal" Officer mods and T2 Officer would take their price point. Makes sense. I don't see peeps paying 20bil for a single turret be it a capital mod.
Yxalitis	Posted - 2011.02.16 21:48:00 - [7] Originally by: Corporal Punishment08 Officer mods are expensive enough as it is. Can you imagine what a T2 officer mod would cost?? Wouldn't be worth it. And yet people already pay absolutely stupid amounts of isk for a few percent improvement here and there. Gyrostabliisers, for example. Damage with no gyro...100 Damage with Gyro II...110 Damage with RSS Gyro..112.5 Net gain...2.2% cost...75mill But then they add a second and even a third one for a rapidly diminishing return. I don't believe in signatures, not even really cool ones like "This signature intentionaly left blank"
Magnus Orin Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.02.16 22:04:00 - [8] Edited by: Magnus Orin on 16/02/2011 22:05:13 Tech 1 = Meta 0 - 4 Tech 2 = Meta 5 Faction/Deadspace/Officer = Meta 6-14 There is no problem here. Sarcasm - Because i'm too far away to strangle you.
Izuru Hishido Amarr Lethal Dosage. Violent Society	Posted - 2011.02.17 03:31:00 - [9] Here's a better idea. Instead of making Faction/officer Tech 2 modules, make T2 Capital modules. /thread. "The point of war is not to die for your country, its to make the other bastard die for his."
freshspree	Posted - 2011.02.17 03:50:00 - [10] Originally by: Izuru Hishido Here's a better idea. Instead of making Faction/officer Tech 2 modules, make T2 Capital modules. /thread. It's not a better idea and has bias written all over it.
Mister Normal Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.02.17 05:29:00 - [11] Originally by: Izuru Hishido Here's a better idea. Instead of making Faction/officer Tech 2 modules, make T2 Capital modules. /thread.
Yxalitis	Posted - 2011.02.20 22:38:00 - [12] Originally by: Magnus Orin Edited by: Magnus Orin on 16/02/2011 22:05:13 Tech 1 = Meta 0 - 4 Tech 2 = Meta 5 Faction/Deadspace/Officer = Meta 6-14 There is no problem here. So where is the Faction/Officer autocannon that fires Barrage? Perhaps READING the post before replying would help... I don't believe in signatures, not even really cool ones like "This signature intentionaly left blank"
Batelle Aliastra	Posted - 2011.02.21 03:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Magnus Orin There is no problem here. EC-P8R... You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Yxalitis	Posted - 2011.02.22 06:07:00 - [14] Edited by: Yxalitis on 22/02/2011 06:08:09 Originally by: Magnus Orin Edited by: Magnus Orin on 16/02/2011 22:05:13 Tech 1 = Meta 0 - 4 Tech 2 = Meta 5 Faction/Deadspace/Officer = Meta 6-14 There is no problem here. OK, show me all the elite PvP players using Faction AC's on their Vaga's Or the ratters running there Tengus with Deadspace launchers? Once you can fit Tech II weapons, your choices cease. The same cannot be said of ANY OTHER MODULE IN THE GAME. My POINT is, if I want to fire Tech II ammo, and I do, I have ONE choice of launcher, whether it fits into a neat Meta level or not is irrelevant. What is the point of having weapons with nifty stats that fail to fire the best ammo type available? I don't believe in signatures, not even really cool ones like "This signature intentionaly left blank"
Kepakh	Posted - 2011.02.22 07:39:00 - [15] Originally by: Yxalitis What is the point of having weapons with nifty stats that fail to fire the best ammo type available? The point is to have a game based on player production instead of raid drops, a game without gear dependency. Well, that is at least what EVE was and supposed to be a few years back...
AstarothPrime	Posted - 2011.02.23 10:21:00 - [16] Originally by: Magnus Orin Edited by: Magnus Orin on 16/02/2011 22:05:13 Tech 1 = Meta 0 - 4 Tech 2 = Meta 5 Storyline/Faction/Deadspace/Officer = Meta 6-14 There is no problem here. Fixed. Bottom line - its all about meta. Or you are suggesting having meta 15-20? As faction + tech2. Or we should call it -> ultimate weapons, or epic gear? OFC they would WTFPWN everything if that other isnt equipped with such gear as well. I.
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.23 10:24:00 - [17] Originally by: AstarothPrime OFC they would WTFPWN everything if that other isnt equipped with such gear as well. I don't know about you, but I regularly see people with faction/deadspace pwnboats trying to be the champion of solo PvP die horribly in flames when they meet the realities of PvP on TQ.

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