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Shoog	Posted - 2011.02.17 13:08:00 - [1] Howdy all. I'll try to make this as detailed but short as I can.. Some feedback from both players and if anyone knows how to get CCP to read this as well.. that would be good. ok so I have been traversing the market for a while now with my alts.. BUY/SELL orders 0.01 isking.. All that sorta mumbo jumbo. the problem I have noticed quite a bit is that my completed buy orders are not matching up with my ACTUAL buy order. For example. I will have a buy order up for ITEM A, which will be x amount of units at lets say 180,000.00 per unit. The problem I have found when I check back through my transactions is that I have alot of transactions for ITEM A that are completely different amounts. Just today I had ITEM A up for sale for 180,000.00 isk per unit but in the space of 2 minutes, I had 6 different people sell me ITEM A at anywhere from 189,000.00 isk per unit, all the way up to 295,000.00 isk per unit.. WTF IS THE GO THERE????? I have also noticed the same thing on my SELL orders... I will have x amount of ITEM B up for sale for 2,200,000.00 isk per unit. However when i go through my transactions I notice that quite a number of my transactions have been for 2,300,000.00 and more per unit. Now dont get me wrong, I am in no way complaining about getting more isk per item. It does appear to be a bug though. Clearly the market orders are getting mixed up somewhere along the line. My final issue I have found is my low sec market population. I frequently haul combat components to low sec for a slightly higher but still competitive price. ( Gotta keep those minnies in the war lol ) Now I have spread the word to a few friendly locals down there to help me out by purchasing MY items from the market.. I'm generally within 1isk of any other order down there. I have my items marked by doing the usual market trademark and adding a specific .00 cent value on all my sell orders. This way my friendlies will know which is my order and they can purchase from it even if its a couple of isk more expensive. The problem is... When they purchase from my sell order... I am not showing a reduction in my sell order and i'm sertainly not recieving the isk. When they check their own transactions it shows that they did infact purchase the item for the price I had on the market in that station but the transaction was to someone else. So not only did someone else get my order they also sold their item for HIGHER then what their sell order price was.... A BIT SCREWED UP DONT YOU THINK??? To test this out i took myself down to low sec and changed my alts market sell order to a very distinguished sell order price for VERY EASY identification purposes. My selling price was higher then other orders in the same station... I purchased the item with my main and what do you know..... my wallet showed that i had purchased the item for the unmistakable amount but when I checked both my main and my alts wallet and transactions...... the sale did not go to me. Has anyone else found that they are getting the same problems here???? Or am I the only one??? I know there is a system the market uses but haven't really brushed up on it. If all this is normal and has been normal for quite a while now.. dont we think its about time it was changed???? Is CCP aware of this problem already??? Is something being done about it??? I apologize if this has been covered in another section.. I'm not one for sifting through endless amounts of posts to hopefully find what I am looking for. Regards ShoogMEN
Bom Barley	Posted - 2011.02.17 13:19:00 - [2] This : Originally by: Shoog Howdy all. I have also noticed the same thing on my SELL orders... I will have x amount of ITEM B up for sale for 2,200,000.00 isk per unit. However when i go through my transactions I notice that quite a number of my transactions have been for 2,300,000.00 and more per unit. Now dont get me wrong, I am in no way complaining about getting more isk per item. It does appear to be a bug though. Clearly the market orders are getting mixed up somewhere along the line. And this : Originally by: Shoog The problem is... When they purchase from my sell order... I am not showing a reduction in my sell order and i'm sertainly not recieving the isk. When they check their own transactions it shows that they did infact purchase the item for the price I had on the market in that station but the transaction was to someone else. So not only did someone else get my order they also sold their item for HIGHER then what their sell order price was.... A BIT Seems related, don't you think ?
Knokploeg	Posted - 2011.02.17 13:23:00 - [3] Originally by: Shoog I apologize if this has been covered in another section.. I'm not one for sifting through endless amounts of posts to hopefully find what I am looking for. Regards ShoogMEN That right there is your problem. Apologies accepted, don't do it again.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2011.02.17 13:26:00 - [4] Items are always bought from the cheapest available offer. You can't buy from a specific buy order if it isn't the cheapest one. There is a reason for the 0.01 isk games
Shoog	Posted - 2011.02.17 13:51:00 - [5] Originally by: Gnulpie Items are always bought from the cheapest available offer. You can't buy from a specific buy order if it isn't the cheapest one. There is a reason for the 0.01 isk games Thats all well and good... STUPID but ok... How come though, if it only lets you purchase the cheapest one.. why does the person selling the item, receive the HIGHER price??? If they aren't going to let people purchase a specific order because it defaults to the lowest order.... why is the higher price still coming into effect???
Tasko Pal Spallated Garniferous Schist	Posted - 2011.02.17 13:56:00 - [6] Originally by: Shoog How come though, if it only lets you purchase the cheapest one.. why does the person selling the item, receive the HIGHER price??? If they aren't going to let people purchase a specific order because it defaults to the lowest order.... why is the higher price still coming into effect??? It's yet more incentive for people to play the 0.01 isk game and place book orders. Basically, trade is designed to favor active book makers.
Shoog	Posted - 2011.02.17 14:14:00 - [7] Originally by: Tasko Pal Originally by: Shoog How come though, if it only lets you purchase the cheapest one.. why does the person selling the item, receive the HIGHER price??? If they aren't going to let people purchase a specific order because it defaults to the lowest order.... why is the higher price still coming into effect??? It's yet more incentive for people to play the 0.01 isk game and place book orders. Basically, trade is designed to favor active book makers. I am in a manner of speaking playing the .01 isk game.. but its 1.0 isk instead. I have my certain .00 isk value on the end of my order more so its easy for me to see where my item is in the orders list. I am forever checking both my buy and sell orders to ensure I am getting priority sales. I just think some revision is needed on the market system. 3 reasons Firstly People should be able to CHOOSE what order they buy from.. or in my case WHO they buy from. Secondly, its not fair that someone else receive MORE isk for their item then what their order states. Thirdly, when I place a buy order.. the total ammount of my order is straight away deducted from my wallet. So if I have a buy order for 1000 units at 1 million per unit. that 1 billion is already gone from my wallet and the orders are completed over time. Now lets say for example ALL my buy order and not just some of it. Sell for 1.1million per unit. No further isk comes out of my wallet to cover that additional cost. The Seller gains that extra 100million isk in sale... WHERE THE HELL DOES THAT ISK COME FROM?
Tasko Pal Spallated Garniferous Schist	Posted - 2011.02.17 14:30:00 - [8] Edited by: Tasko Pal on 17/02/2011 14:30:04 Originally by: Shoog Thirdly, when I place a buy order.. the total ammount of my order is straight away deducted from my wallet. Get the margin trading skill. Prerequisites are trading 4 and accounting 4. Each level of the margin trading skill reduces the amount of escrow that is set aside when you place a buy order by 25%. At level 5, it is something like 20-25% set aside. Further, initial buy transactions take from the escrow rather than your free isk, so you routinely will have much lower escrow than 25% of the nominal value of total bids. Quote: So if I have a buy order for 1000 units at 1 million per unit. that 1 billion is already gone from my wallet and the orders are completed over time. Now lets say for example ALL my buy order and not just some of it. Sell for 1.1million per unit. No further isk comes out of my wallet to cover that additional cost. The Seller gains that extra 100million isk in sale... WHERE THE HELL DOES THAT ISK COME FROM? That addition isk comes from the person who bought the goods at 1.1 million isk per unit. No isk was created in any of these transactions, instead a modest amount of isk was consumed through taxes and brokerage fees.
Adrian Idaho	Posted - 2011.02.17 15:32:00 - [9] Originally by: Shoog Firstly People should be able to CHOOSE what order they buy from.. or in my case WHO they buy from. sigh not this again... If you want to trade with a specific character, then set up item exchange contracts. As for the amount of ISK paid/received: if you right-click on an expensive sell-order and click on "buy", it doesn't automatically buy the stuff at that price û instead, it opens a window where you can enter any price you want. If you enter an unnecessarily high price, you'll pay more, so always click on the lowest offer. Yes, it's that simple. The explanation for all the "issues" you described is simple: it's broker based system, so it actually makes sense. None of it is a problem, though, so get over it.
AkJon Ferguson JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.17 15:32:00 - [10] Originally by: Shoog So if I have a buy order for 1000 units at 1 million per unit. that 1 billion is already gone from my wallet and the orders are completed over time. Now lets say for example ALL my buy order and not just some of it. Sell for 1.1million per unit. No further isk comes out of my wallet to cover that additional cost. The Seller gains that extra 100million isk in sale... WHERE THE HELL DOES THAT ISK COME FROM? Only the Shadow knows ... I mean this in the nicest possible way: You are either a) dumber than a box of hair or b) a troll. Fly safe.

Lost Hamster Hamster Holding Corp	Posted - 2011.02.17 16:02:00 - [11] Originally by: Shoog wall of text You are not understand how the market works. Originally by: Shoog Secondly, its not fair that someone else receive MORE isk for their item then what their order states. Why ? Everyone is happy for some additional ISK. Originally by: Shoog Now lets say for example ALL my buy order and not just some of it. Sell for 1.1million per unit. First of all a BUY order will not sell for a greater price. You acquire goods, you are not selling them. Don't mix up the two. Additional ISK you only get, when you have a SELL order, what someone BUYS for a greater price that you originally set. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shields are like pants, they're supposed to come off. Armor is like the condom once its gone ur ****ed
Aunty Nora	Posted - 2011.02.17 16:13:00 - [12] This is what happens when people come straight from wow.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2011.02.17 17:57:00 - [13] Originally by: Shoog I just think some revision is needed on the market system. The market works VERY FINE the way it is right now. Originally by: Shoog Firstly People should be able to CHOOSE what order they buy from.. or in my case WHO they buy from. You have contracts for that. Originally by: Shoog Secondly, its not fair that someone else receive MORE isk for their item then what their order states. Call it taxing the stupid, nothing wrong with that. Originally by: Shoog If I have a buy order for 1000 units at 1 million per unit. that 1 billion is already gone from my wallet and the orders are completed over time. If you set up a buy order for 1 mil per unit, then you never will pay more than 1 mil per unit. Originally by: Shoog Now lets say for example ALL my buy order and not just some of it. Sell for 1.1million per unit. How can a buy order sell? Originally by: Shoog No further isk comes out of my wallet to cover that additional cost. The Seller gains that extra 100million isk in sale... WHERE THE HELL DOES THAT ISK COME FROM? Have you done actual trading? Because to me it sounds that you are all confused, no offense meant. Do some small scale trading, learn how the market works. Get a knack on it. Then you will discover that the market works perfectly fine as it is.
Estel Arador	Posted - 2011.02.17 18:20:00 - [14] "I have no clue how the market works but it should change" +1!
Letrange Minmatar Red Horizon Inc R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.02.17 20:39:00 - [15] I'll add my 2isk to the guys saying "Learn how the system works, not how you want it to work". As for the reason you sometimes get more. Some times it's because you have put up such a small amount that it's not worth buying from YOUR pile even if it's cheaper. This happens a lot when manufacturers are buying set amounts. They want to buy specific amounts say 5mil trit. so there's a nice big sell order of 20mil units at 2.43 isk per unit and you put a measly 1000 units at 2.42 and someone else 3000 units at 2.4 isk. In a situation like that, very often a manufacturer will simply say "**** it" buy all 5mil units at the 2.43 price and you and the 2.4 isk guy will get bought out at the higher value. The idea is that time is isk and buying small lots and calculating the differencial for the larger lot would indeed be cheaper. But I could be doing other stuff and the few isk savings sometimes just isn't worth the wasted time.
Zelda Wei Caldari New Horizon Trade Exchange	Posted - 2011.02.17 21:38:00 - [16] Originally by: Estel Arador "I have no clue how the market works but it should change" +1! Perhaps this might clear things up.
Shoog	Posted - 2011.02.17 23:38:00 - [17] ok listen up.. i'll try and break it down to a fine line.. for the dense people out there... When I have a BUY order up... ok so i have and order on the market to BUY ITEMS.... Lets say.... Large Shield Extenders. Now regardless of what the market says at the moment.. lets say they are worth 1.5 mill each. Now I dont wanna pay that much. ok so here we go... are you ready!!! Here is my buy order... 1000 units of Large Shield extender for 1 million each. thats 1000x1million = 1 billion Got it so far??? Now throw in my skills, and I have a 4,470,439.35 isk broker fee. Grand total 1,004,470,439.35 isk for the buy order. No further isk comes out of my wallet. Simple enough to follow... I think so.. ok now once I place my buy order on the market.... that total sum of isk comes out of my wallet. * Insert frowny face here for 1 billion isk wallet drop * Now usually my buy order will gradually fill.... that means people sell stuff to my buy order... GOT IT!!! As I have stated in my earlier posts.. Often when I check my transactions I see that my buy order actually had some transactions where instead of 1 million per unit.. I actually paid 1.1 million per unit. If the isk has already come out of my wallet when I placed the buy order, and NO FURTHER isk comes out of my wallet, where does that extra 100k isk come from? The SELLER gets it.. but it didn't come from me... WHere did it come from? Now if all my buy order transactions did it.. thats 100million of EXTRA isk that is generated which didn't come from my wallet. Maybe i'm the only person who has seen this.. which would explain why NO ONE has any idea what I'm talking about. I dont need to be lectured on HOW TO TRADE.. i've been doing it for a while now. And rather successfully. The reason for my post was to see if ANYONE else had noticed the issues I have. Either I'm the only person in all of eve who has bothered taking notice or maybe you people cant understand my Aussie accent when I f*cking type!
Zelda Wei Caldari New Horizon Trade Exchange	Posted - 2011.02.18 01:28:00 - [18] Post Proof or it didn't happen.
Thoraemond Minmatar Far Ranger	Posted - 2011.02.18 01:52:00 - [19] Originally by: Shoog The reason for my post was to see if ANYONE else had noticed the issues I have. Either I'm the only person in all of eve who has bothered taking notice or maybe you people cant understand my Aussie accent when I [...] type! On reading your posts in this thread, my first thought is that you must be misreading your Market Transactions. You say you are reading them correctly, but I do not see what you see, and so I cannot check your claims for myself. Because your original post betrays such fundamental misunderstanding of some basic aspects of how the Market in EVE works (that you cannot choose from which Ask you buy; transactions are always matched to the "best" corresponding order), it is probably reasonable that people may lack confidence in your understanding of other aspects of the Market. Like Zelda Wei writes, it might help if people could see clearer evidence of the phenomenon you are describing. Even screenshots might help, for example. If you were comfortable doing so, you could also share your API data to see if someone else can find evidence of transactions like you describe. Two preliminary questions: Do you ever have more than one Bid up at the same time for the same item at different prices? Did you ever try to sell one item to each of your competitors's Bids to try to identify them?
Tasko Pal Spallated Garniferous Schist	Posted - 2011.02.18 03:12:00 - [20] Edited by: Tasko Pal on 18/02/2011 03:13:56 Originally by: Shoog Now throw in my skills, and I have a 4,470,439.35 isk broker fee. Grand total 1,004,470,439.35 isk for the buy order. No further isk comes out of my wallet. Simple enough to follow... I think so.. ok now once I place my buy order on the market.... that total sum of isk comes out of my wallet. * Insert frowny face here for 1 billion isk wallet drop * Ok, I think I see what's troubling you. When you have no levels of margin trading skill, then every buy order you make has to be fully, 100% backed by your isk. The way it's done is that the money required is taken out of your wallet and held in escrow. So what does "escrow" mean? Obviously, that money is no longer in your wallet. Yet it remains your money until you start buying stuff. Either you buy stuff, in which case the isk is taken out of the escrow amount and goes on to the seller, or your order eventually is canceled or expires. In the latter case, whatever you had left in escrow is returned to your wallet minus the brokerage fees. So let's give an example. Suppose you place the above billion isk purchase, 1000 units at 1 million isk per unit. The brokerage fee of 4.47 million isk and the full amount of the potential purchase are taken out of your wallet. The 4.47 million isk brokerage fee is gone, but the 1 billion isk is put in escrow. Let's say that someone sells 50 units to you. They get 50 million isk (minus their sales tax). The billion you have in escrow is reduced by 50 million to 950 million. AT this point, let's say you're tired of the order because it's not selling fast and you cancel it. You get back what's in escrow and 950 million appear in your wallet. At this point you have 50 units of the item you were buying and your wallet is down by 54.7 million isk. TL;DR: you didn't lose that billion isk. It gets set aside to fully cover your order. What isk you don't spend on brokerage fees or actual purchases gets returned to you when the order goes away.

Colt Landers	Posted - 2011.02.18 05:06:00 - [21] Why do people feel the need to degrade or answer a question from someone by trying to put them down. The dude's asking simple questions. Has anyone noticed in their buy orders that you have actually bought something for more than you inputed as your buying price. His example was: he is buying LSEs at 1M each. His transaction screen shows he purchased one for 1.1M, but since his buy order is only for 1M, there is a 100k difference there that was not taken from his wallet even though it shows on the transaction screen. Where is the extra 100k coming from or does it even exist? Secondly, has anyone noticed that when selling something for a price, you actually get paid more? This has been answered in the thread with the trit analogy a couple posts up. In all honesty, the buy order thing sounds like a bug. I think if people in the forums would try to understand questions and answer with the intent to help instead of looking for any little thing to try and troll, this world would be a better place.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2011.02.18 05:48:00 - [22] Originally by: Shoog ok listen up.. i'll try and break it down to a fine line.. for the dense people out there... Yeah, great to insult people who are trying to help you understanding your mistake. Originally by: Shoog Maybe i'm the only person who has seen this.. which would explain why NO ONE has any idea what I'm talking about. Suuure...you are the only one who sees the truth and all the rest is stupid for years now. Maybe, just maybe you are the one who is wrong here and all the others are right? Did that thought actually occur to you? Originally by: Shoog I dont need to be lectured on HOW TO TRADE.. i've been doing it for a while now. Probably not since you don't even know the difference from buy ORDERS and free style buying from the market. Originally by: Shoog Either I'm the only person in all of eve who has bothered taking notice or maybe you people cant understand my Aussie accent when I fcking type! Or maybe you are just talking nonsense. Just two examples from your posts: Originally by:* Shoog Just today I had ITEM A up for sale for 180,000.00 isk per unit but in the space of 2 minutes, I had 6 different people sell me ITEM A at anywhere from 189,000.00 isk per unit, all the way up to 295,000.00 isk per unit.. WTF IS THE GO THERE????? How can people sell you an item if you have a sell order? They only can BUY from you then. Originally by: Shoog I have also noticed the same thing on my SELL orders... I will have x amount of ITEM B up for sale for 2,200,000.00 isk per unit. However when i go through my transactions I notice that quite a number of my transactions have been for 2,300,000.00 and more per unit. Again, people can buy the stuff from you at whatever price they want as long as it is equal of more than your selling price. For me it looks like you are confusing sell orders with buy orders and free form buy with buy orders. To clarify that matter, post screenshots of your transactions log and market order log.
Rule18	Posted - 2011.02.18 07:57:00 - [23] Edited by: Rule18 on 18/02/2011 07:59:16 ok, i'm not sure if this is exactly what you're talking about BUT I have noticed that if you place an order on the market... buy or sell... and there is a reciprocating sell or buy order that is as good or better it will be auto filled. for example, i go to .01isk up a regional buy order for Ship A but as it turns out there was a sell order already in place for Ship A at a value less than my buy order. the order is automatically filled and the person selling it gets more isk than their order was for (the amount my order was placed for). my problem with this? the existing order is almost always in lowsec and well below market average to begin with. the result? i resell the item at same price or lower and take the hit. anyway that's what came to mind when i read the op -Rule18
Shoog	Posted - 2011.02.18 09:04:00 - [24] Just today I had ITEM A up for sale for 180,000.00 isk per unit but in the space of 2 minutes, I had 6 different people sell me ITEM A at anywhere from 189,000.00 isk per unit, all the way up to 295,000.00 isk per unit.. WTF IS THE GO THERE????? That was meant to say I had item A up on buy order... not FOR SALE... OMG.. sorry for the typo... even though it didn't matter which way or how I explained the problem. Everyone just forget it. Clearly i'm the only person seeing the issue. but hey.. what do I know... I came straight from WOW apparently.. even though I been playin eve for years. I also apparently know NOTHING about trading or the market at all and I get my buy and sell orders confused. OBVIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've explained this to a few others in game and they all seem to be able to understand quite clearly what I'm saying. Screens have been taken and petition being sent to CCP to see if they can shed any light on the topic. Ya's can flame me all ya's like. I really dont give a f*ck what any of ya's think of me.. I was here to get answers to a potential issue I have found... Not get a character reference.
Rule18	Posted - 2011.02.18 09:14:00 - [25] i've had the reverse happen... paid say 90mil on a 100mil buy order... but never what u describe. sry m8 :-/ if it is a consistent issue.. document it all and grab some screen shots then petition? who knws, maybe you'll get some isk back. -Rule18
Lost Hamster Hamster Holding Corp	Posted - 2011.02.18 10:30:00 - [26] Originally by: Shoog Just today I had ITEM A up for sale for 180,000.00 isk per unit but in the space of 2 minutes, I had 6 different people sell me ITEM A at anywhere from 189,000.00 isk per unit, all the way up to 295,000.00 isk per unit.. WTF IS THE GO THERE????? OK, I see what you mean. However I have checked my transactions, a ~1000 for buy orders, and never have seen such a behavior. About your wallet, when you do not have additional Journal entries for additional ISK loss, then I would ignore it. So you are not loosing money. Still it would be interested to see the seller wallet to see, if he/she received more money or not. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shields are like pants, they're supposed to come off. Armor is like the condom once its gone ur ****ed
Zelda Wei Caldari New Horizon Trade Exchange	Posted - 2011.02.18 11:49:00 - [27] Originally by: Colt Landers Why do people feel the need to degrade or answer a question from someone by trying to put them down. 1) The dude is only semi-literate leading to the presumption that his intellect is limited. 2) The dude demonstrates a poor understanding of the mechanics of the market adding to this presumption. 3) The dude obviously has no skill in Margin trading and pays 1M ISK for LSE yet alludes to his market expertise and demonstrating illusory superiority. 4) The dude refuses to accept the explanations provided suggesting the Dunning Kruger effect is at work. 5) The dude has provided no evidence to support his extra ordinary claim the market is broken,extra ordinary claims demand extra ordinary evidence or at least some evidence.
Velicitia Open Designs	Posted - 2011.02.18 18:50:00 - [28] Originally by: Shoog Just today I had ITEM A up for sale for 180,000.00 isk per unit up for sale == SELL ORDER Originally by: Shoog I had 6 different people sell me ITEM A at anywhere from 189,000.00 isk per unit, all the way up to 295,000.00 isk per unit.. WTF IS THE GO THERE????? How are people SELLING to a SELL Order? Originally by: Shoog That was meant to say I had item A up on buy order... not FOR SALE... Wait, which is it? Not two sentences ago, you said that you set it up for sale... I've never seen sell orders sell for less than my asking (ie, that's the floor I'm willing to sell at... anything above that price is just gravy). I've never seen buy orders sell for more than my offer (ie, it's the ceiling I'm willing to buy at... anything below this is awesomesauce).
Shoog	Posted - 2011.02.19 00:42:00 - [29] Originally by: Shoog Just today I had ITEM A up for sale for 180,000.00 isk per unit but in the space of 2 minutes, I had 6 different people sell me ITEM A at anywhere from 189,000.00 isk per unit, all the way up to 295,000.00 isk per unit.. WTF IS THE GO THERE????? That was meant to say I had item A up on buy order... not FOR SALE... OMG.. sorry for the typo... even though it didn't matter which way or how I explained the problem. Everyone just forget it. Clearly i'm the only person seeing the issue. but hey.. what do I know... I came straight from WOW apparently.. even though I been playin eve for years. I also apparently know NOTHING about trading or the market at all and I get my buy and sell orders confused. OBVIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've explained this to a few others in game and they all seem to be able to understand quite clearly what I'm saying. Screens have been taken and petition being sent to CCP to see if they can shed any light on the topic. Ya's can flame me all ya's like. I really dont give a fck what any of ya's think of me.. I was here to get answers to a potential issue I have found... Not get a character reference. *** me dead do you not read... let me point it out for you AGAIN ready for this That was meant to say I had item A up on buy order... not FOR SALE... OMG.. sorry for the typo... even though it didn't matter which way or how I explained the problem. That was meant to say I had item A up on buy order... not FOR SALE... OMG.. sorry for the typo... even though it didn't matter which way or how I explained the problem. That was meant to say I had item A up on buy order... not FOR SALE... OMG.. sorry for the typo... even though it didn't matter which way or how I explained the problem. That was meant to say I had item A up on buy order... not FOR SALE... OMG.. sorry for the typo... even though it didn't matter which way or how I explained the problem. Like I said... forget about it!!!!!
Shoog	Posted - 2011.02.19 00:48:00 - [30] Originally by: Lost Hamster Originally by: Shoog Just today I had ITEM A up for sale for 180,000.00 isk per unit but in the space of 2 minutes, I had 6 different people sell me ITEM A at anywhere from 189,000.00 isk per unit, all the way up to 295,000.00 isk per unit.. WTF IS THE GO THERE????? OK, I see what you mean. However I have checked my transactions, a ~1000 for buy orders, and never have seen such a behavior. About your wallet, when you do not have additional Journal entries for additional ISK loss, then I would ignore it. So you are not loosing money. Still it would be interested to see the seller wallet to see, if he/she received more money or not. Exactly!!!! WOW At least someone gets it!!!!

Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.02.19 00:56:00 - [31] Edited by: Breaker77 on 19/02/2011 00:56:09 Originally by: Shoog **** me dead do you not read... let me point it out for you AGAIN ready for this So you typed your post, realized you had a mistake, didn't fix it, didn't edit it. You sir are the giant troll.
Honore DeGallente	Posted - 2011.02.19 08:21:00 - [32] I did notice a bug today. When buying from a market Sell order I got a mis match between the price and location of the purchase. e.g. Item at Price X at Location A Item at Price Y at Location B I purchase from Location B, buy right clicking the order, it displays Price Y at Location B. I purchase. Item appears in my assets in Location A, At first this may appear I have selected the incorrect order. However checking my transactions, I see one for Prioe Y at Location A in my wallet transactions. If I had a made a mistake, it would have shown Price Y at Location B. I'm able to repeat this, and in fact even get a location that doesn't even appear in the markets list of orders. e.g. Price Y at Location C when selecting to buy from Sell Order "Price Y at Location B". It looks like a bug to me if I can't buy from a Market Sell order and have the item appear in the location I expect it to be.
Adrian Idaho	Posted - 2011.02.19 10:04:00 - [33] If you really clicked on a sell order for location B, and the item appears in location A, then this is, indeed, a bug (you should check whether the location in the window is actually B). If you can reproduce it, then file a petition.
Hockston Axe Amarr	Posted - 2011.02.19 13:42:00 - [34] Originally by: Honore DeGallente I did notice a bug today. When buying from a market Sell order I got a mis match between the price and location of the purchase. e.g. Item at Price X at Location A Item at Price Y at Location B I purchase from Location B, buy right clicking the order, it displays Price Y at Location B. I purchase. Item appears in my assets in Location A, At first this may appear I have selected the incorrect order. However checking my transactions, I see one for Prioe Y at Location A in my wallet transactions. If I had a made a mistake, it would have shown Price Y at Location B. I'm able to repeat this, and in fact even get a location that doesn't even appear in the markets list of orders. e.g. Price Y at Location C when selecting to buy from Sell Order "Price Y at Location B". It looks like a bug to me if I can't buy from a Market Sell order and have the item appear in the location I expect it to be. Are you sure youÆre not doing an adv buy with range greater than station? It remembers your last used simple/adv order settings now, instead of always being the simple version. I accidentally bought some stuff this way right after the patch, buying some bpos, thought it was all broken till I noticed that I was mindlessly clicking on a region wide buy for it. But it was weird that buying something like npc bpo with all at the exact same price didnÆt pick my location or even the same two in a row, but seemed to randomly buy all over the region.
Shoog	Posted - 2011.02.19 14:12:00 - [35] Originally by: Breaker77 Edited by: Breaker77 on 19/02/2011 00:56:09 Originally by: Shoog **** me dead do you not read... let me point it out for you AGAIN ready for this So you typed your post, realized you had a mistake, didn't fix it, didn't edit it. You sir are the giant troll. I'm sorry I didn't think it appropriate of me to edit my original post, considering i only noticed the error in my typing when it was pointed out to me later in the thread... Now how would all the other trolls feel if their posts contained quotes that no longer existed.... actually hang on... why the fukc are you even here??? Die in a fire you piece of troll sh!t!
Garbaroth Combat Industries Corporation	Posted - 2011.02.19 20:04:00 - [36] There defintely IS something strange going on atm. I had 5 items listed (sell order) @ 9500 One of those items just sold and the market transaction log said i was credited with 10000 The order (correctly) shows quantity=4 now, so one of _my_ item definitely did get sold -- just above the price I listed it at. I am not really complaining too much about that right now but there really IS something strange happening with market transactions!
Caldariftw123	Posted - 2011.02.19 20:10:00 - [37] Edited by: Caldariftw123 on 19/02/2011 20:10:03 Originally by: Garbaroth There defintely IS something strange going on atm. I had 5 items listed (sell order) @ 9500 One of those items just sold and the market transaction log said i was credited with 10000 The order (correctly) shows quantity=4 now, so one of _my_ item definitely did get sold -- just above the price I listed it at. I am not really complaining too much about that right now but there really IS something strange happening with market transactions! Why is that 'strange' ? It's just someone paying more for the item by selecting a different item price out of the list of items listed .. That's not unusual, in fact it's quite common. What is this thread about still? Wasn't it answered already? It's hard to read all the stupidity.
Zelda Wei Caldari New Horizon Trade Exchange	Posted - 2011.02.19 21:52:00 - [38] Still awaiting the evidence.
Dallmarr	Posted - 2011.02.20 03:07:00 - [39] and third.. some people are frigging lazy and just hit the "buy" button on the main list. example: click on skills click on drones window on the right shows all drone skills and you can scroll to the one you want there is a buy button people actually use that...and if you are the lowest in the section, you get the price listed and a LARGE portion of the time it is no where near the lowest I have profited from this many many times
Honore Jove	Posted - 2011.02.20 03:31:00 - [40] Originally by: Hockston Axe Are you sure youÆre not doing an adv buy with range greater than station? It remembers your last used simple/adv order settings now, instead of always being the simple version. I accidentally bought some stuff this way right after the patch, buying some bpos, thought it was all broken till I noticed that I was mindlessly clicking on a region wide buy for it. But it was weird that buying something like npc bpo with all at the exact same price didnÆt pick my location or even the same two in a row, but seemed to randomly buy all over the region. That was it. How embarrassing. :) Cheap lesson. Well worth it.



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