| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Vasilli
   |
Posted - 2005.01.30 18:39:00 -
[1]
Moved from EVE General Discussion to Ships & Modules - Jacques Archambault
Ok, what is the deal with mining barges? i have come back to Eve after a 6 month hibernation, and i have no idea what these things are for. Are there new types of mining lasers or somthing? its only got one hi-slot so whatever is fitted there it had better be good, right? Is that cheap-o one better at mining than an Osprey with 3xMiner IIs?
--------------
Caldari and proud of it! |
Braaage
|
Posted - 2005.01.30 18:45:00 -
[2]
Edited by: Braaage on 30/01/2005 18:46:50
3 models of mining barge -
small - mounts 1 strip miner laser
medium - mounts 2 strip miner lasers
large - mounts 3 strip miner lasers
Ice belts are around and the materials refined from Ice are used to power POSs (Player Owned Structures). A barge is the only ship able to mine Ice.
A large barge can mine ore faster than an Apoc with 8 miner IIs. It's a lot cheaper than a BS but has paper thin shields making it almost impossible to mine alone in (in lower sec space).
Mining normal asteroids the barges have a 3 minute cycle time.
Mining Ice the barges have a 9 minute cycle time to which u can train Ice Harvesting skill to reduce that cycle by 30 seconds per level.
Oh and before you ask  the strip miner lasers say they take 3000 cpu per laser, the mining barge reduces that to 60 due to a special ability. Basically it's to stop people from mounting the strip miners on any other ship.
___________________________________________
http://www.eve-tutor.com
Picture based tutorial site for EVE-Online |
Vasilli
|
Posted - 2005.01.30 18:50:00 -
[3]
so its not worth buying the small version from an Osprey?
--------------
Caldari and proud of it! |
Braaage
|
Posted - 2005.01.30 18:51:00 -
[4]
I don't know anyone that uses a small and yes I think the osprey will out mine it although I haven't checked.
___________________________________________
http://www.eve-tutor.com
Picture based tutorial site for EVE-Online |
Lidza
|
Posted - 2005.01.30 21:33:00 -
[5]
Edited by: Lidza on 30/01/2005 21:37:43
Just to help you with some numbers
Mining Pyroxeres per minute
Skills
Mining 5
Astrogeology 5
Caldari cruiser 4
Mining Barge 5
Cruisers
Vexor = 1200 p/m (4 mining lasers II) enough cargohold to store 1 run
Thorax = 1500 p/m (5 mining lasers II) not enough cargohold to store 1 run
Osprey = 1620 p/m (3 mining lasers II) enough cargohold to store 1 run
Battleships
Dominix = 1800 p/m (6 mining lasers II) enough cargohold to store 1 run
Armageddon = 2100 p/m (7 mining lasers II) enough cargohold to store 1 run
Apocalypse = 2400 p/m (8 mining lasers II) enough cargohold to store 1 run
Mining Barges
Retriever = 6206 p/3 minutes (2068 p/m) (2 strip mining lasers) enough cargohold to store 1 run
Covetor = 9702 p/3 minutes (3234 p/m) (3 strip mining lasers) enough to store 1 run
Notes
No drones were used
* also I'll need to update all other ships with exception of Covetor because only now I've got astrogeology 5 ... so all others numbers are with astro 4 and not astro 5
However the large barge beat all the rest even without mining strip II neither crystals.
So if u are at cruiser level keep Osprey or other Minmatar cruiser also good for mining... until u get a BS with 7 mining lasers... then Apoc with 8 and only then Large barge
All other barges are a wast of ISK and time coz BS with 7 mining lasers are better than medium barge (the only exception is... if u want to mine ICE then invest in small/medium barge... if u cannot use the large one). So play to large barge instead...
|
4 LOM
|
Posted - 2005.01.30 21:58:00 -
[6]
also dont forget stirp miner II's with the apropreat crystals that will prolly make mining barges alot more worth it
|
Stregone
|
Posted - 2005.01.30 23:19:00 -
[7]
Medium barges are worth it. They are way way way cheaper than a BS, and I personaly don't plan on moving up to BS for a while, it would take a long ass time to do so anyways 
|
DoctorColossal Pervius
|
Posted - 2005.01.31 01:42:00 -
[8]
Don't get a large one if you lag out in 0.5.
*Cries over local and partial hull expanders and a strip miner oh and an uninsured Covetor* 
time to get in my frigate and raise some hell
|
Lidza
|
Posted - 2005.01.31 08:31:00 -
[9]
Edited by: Lidza on 31/01/2005 08:43:04
 Originally by: 4 LOM
also dont forget stirp miner II's with the apropreat crystals that will prolly make mining barges alot more worth it
True but...
Due to its price (over 30m per unit) and without ore type crystals (since it seem that they were not introduced into the game yet)... seem atm more than useless
|
Lidza
|
Posted - 2005.01.31 08:34:00 -
[10]
My only question is...
Since Barges are so easy to be taken down by a single frigate and due to their useless number of slots that doesnt give much choice of setups.
Who manage to survive in a Barge mining in 0.0 systems?
|
Jarmon Karlentis
|
Posted - 2005.01.31 09:47:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Lidza
My only question is...
Since Barges are so easy to be taken down by a single frigate and due to their useless number of slots that doesnt give much choice of setups.
Who manage to survive in a Barge mining in 0.0 systems?
Barges are not meant to be solo defendable, they are purely roid eaters. If you want to use a barge in a low security area, then you will need to be a member of a group, they are the equivalent of a shovel, not an m16.
|
Ak'athra J'ador
|
Posted - 2005.01.31 11:08:00 -
[12]
if you are mining low sec minerals like arkonor the med barge is just as good as an apoc with 8 lasers as strip miners get no penalty vs. low sec ore types, miner2s do....
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |