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Qwerty Isu
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Posted - 2011.02.22 20:38:00 -
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Anyone know of a good Loki loadout for low/null sec exploration? Preferably unscannable with a cloaky
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2011.02.22 20:44:00 -
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Really hard to get an unscannable loki with a meaningful tank. In fact, after having my exploration Loki for a while, I'm just training CS5 and using a Sleipnir. Yeah it loses the unscannable thing, but it's way cheaper and kills **** better.
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Qwerty Isu
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Posted - 2011.02.23 00:46:00 -
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Do I need a meaningful tank if I just want to run Mag and Radar sites?
Sorry for newb questions I'm just trying to get my ducks in a row before I set out on exploring for the first time 
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eek amouse
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Posted - 2011.02.23 05:08:00 -
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unprobable ships are for escalations, which are sites that cannot be scanned down, unlike radar/mag/etc. only the ships in escalation sites can be probed out. go unprobable in a radar site, they just probe the site down... |
St Mio
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.02.23 05:17:00 -
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Edited by: St Mio on 23/02/2011 05:17:18
If you're doing Radar/Mag sites, or any other exploration (excluding escalations), having an unscannable/unprob(e)able fit is pointless, as they can just scan the site you're in.
Edit:
Damn too slow :D
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Tyfuz
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Posted - 2011.02.23 09:45:00 -
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I dont think its possible to have a setup filled with eccm to make it unprobably and at the same time have exploration setup. It would be good if you had an alt that can probe/scout and hack etc but i guess you dont.
I was looking att setups on battleclinic and found this, looks good to me.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/44480-Low-Sec-0-0-Explorer-Loki.html
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Qwerty Isu
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Posted - 2011.02.23 13:26:00 -
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Thanks for the responses, I do have an alt I just started training for exploration. I was hoping to do exploration with my alt while leaving my Mission Runner with +5 implants safe in hi sec. On that Loki setup, won't I need an analyzer to run mag sites?
Thanks!
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Funky Koval
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Posted - 2011.02.23 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Funky Koval on 23/02/2011 15:31:32
You won't be able to fit all the explo mods (cloak + analyzer + codebreaker + probes + salvager) and have a reasonable combat ability at the same time. Especially in null sec where you'll probably sacrifice another low slot for the interdiction nullifier (and the rats at exploration sites are harder to boot).
An alt in a combat ship is one possible solution (jump clone your main, obv u need 2 accounts).
Or you can restrict yourself to regions with NPC stations (egg. Stain, Syndicate) and carry alternate modules and/or sybsystems with you, then dock to refit as needed. I usually carry Codebreker + Probe launcher as the default, dock and refit for doing combat/mag sites if I find something worthwile.
I won't give you exact fits (EFT is your friend ;) but:
* For Null sec - if you insist on having interdiction nullifier (not 100% necessary IMO if you know the area) active shield tank is your only viable option. Fit a good AB, use lows for gank and you'll be able to speed tank and kill NPC's fairly quickly.
* In Lo sec, passive shield tank setup (3xMedium Purger II + 1-2 Shield relays) has worked very well for me. And gives me the option to refit for the exact tank/gank balance needed (have completed 6/10's with absolutely no issues, though a lil' more DPS would have been nice)
* (nearly) cap-stable 100MN AB fit is also a possiblilty, helps complete lowsec radar sites faster (some come with conatiners spread as many as 80km apart) and keep moving even when webbed by stasis towers. Been using it and kinda like it.
* Personally, I never fit less than 5 ACs (but I guess 4 AC's might be sufficient for low sec radar/mag sites). T2 (Barrage capable) is a definite plus. Use Vulcans rather than 450's, much better for killing frigates + speed tanking while killing fatter rats (you have no drones with covert fit).
hth
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Qwerty Isu
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Posted - 2011.02.23 17:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Funky Koval
Edited by: Funky Koval on 23/02/2011 15:31:32
You won't be able to fit all the explo mods (cloak + analyzer + codebreaker + probes + salvager) and have a reasonable combat ability at the same time. Especially in null sec where you'll probably sacrifice another low slot for the interdiction nullifier (and the rats at exploration sites are harder to boot).
An alt in a combat ship is one possible solution (jump clone your main, obv u need 2 accounts).
Or you can restrict yourself to regions with NPC stations (egg. Stain, Syndicate) and carry alternate modules and/or sybsystems with you, then dock to refit as needed. I usually carry Codebreker + Probe launcher as the default, dock and refit for doing combat/mag sites if I find something worthwile.
I won't give you exact fits (EFT is your friend ;) but:
* For Null sec - if you insist on having interdiction nullifier (not 100% necessary IMO if you know the area) active shield tank is your only viable option. Fit a good AB, use lows for gank and you'll be able to speed tank and kill NPC's fairly quickly.
* In Lo sec, passive shield tank setup (3xMedium Purger II + 1-2 Shield relays) has worked very well for me. And gives me the option to refit for the exact tank/gank balance needed (have completed 6/10's with absolutely no issues, though a lil' more DPS would have been nice)
* (nearly) cap-stable 100MN AB fit is also a possiblilty, helps complete lowsec radar sites faster (some come with conatiners spread as many as 80km apart) and keep moving even when webbed by stasis towers. Been using it and kinda like it.
* Personally, I never fit less than 5 ACs (but I guess 4 AC's might be sufficient for low sec radar/mag sites). T2 (Barrage capable) is a definite plus. Use Vulcans rather than 450's, much better for killing frigates + speed tanking while killing fatter rats (you have no drones with covert fit).
hth
This helps a lot, thank you!
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