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Berneh	Posted - 2005.01.30 21:29:00 - [1] I was travelling home yesterday when this happened, i had owned this ship for about 10 minutes and cannot afford to replace it. If stain had let it be known that they were pirates then i would have taken care to go another way. 2005.01.29 21:43:00 Victim: Berneh Corporation: Infinity Project Destroyed Type: Megathron Solar System: EC-P8R System Security Level: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Inflatable Teen Security Status: 2.5 Corporation: The Collective Ship Type: Raven Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Wolfman Security Status: 3.4 Corporation: Shinra Ship Type: Megathron Weapon Type: Unknown Name: AmoriA Security Status: -0.9 Corporation: The Collective Ship Type: Scorpion Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Aeryn Sun Security Status: 0.0 Corporation: The Collective Ship Type: Brutix Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Amrry McIce Security Status: 4.4 Corporation: The Collective Ship Type: Apocalypse Weapon Type: Unknown Name: mute Security Status: 0.0 Corporation: The Collective Ship Type: Malediction Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Icarus100 Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: The Collective Ship Type: Scorpion Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Code 071 Security Status: 5.0 Corporation: The Collective Ship Type: Raven Weapon Type: Unknown Name: Ingvi (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.3 Corporation: The Collective Ship Type: Scorpion Weapon Type: Mjolnir Torpedo I Name: Barfolemew Security Status: 0.9 Corporation: The Collective Ship Type: Scorpion Weapon Type: Unknown Me and my corporation are neutrel to stain so i dont understand why i was killed for no reason and with no explanation. ------------------------------------------------ Proud Member of the lubed up fox Unbeliever makes me want to hold something close to my bussom
Filty1	Posted - 2005.01.30 21:50:00 - [2] Maybe that is the problem, you being neutral, most alliances kill anything that is not "blue" to them. Blue meaning have +10 standing with.
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2005.01.30 21:51:00 - [3] firstly, this is not stain. this is the collective, im sure it will be dealt with internally... "We brake for nobody"
fugazii	Posted - 2005.01.30 21:55:00 - [4] for someone to be a pirate they hav to break a rule. .0 space has no rules therefor there is no pirates, only blue and not blue. maybe if you dont want to lose ships then u should stay in .5 and higher systems, you know the risks its your fault for not bein more careful.
Berneh	Posted - 2005.01.30 21:57:00 - [5] Originally by: Admiral IceBlock firstly, this is not stain. this is the collective, im sure it will be dealt with internally... Will i get my ship back ? ------------------------------------------------ Proud Member of the lubed up fox Unbeliever makes me want to hold something close to my bussom
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2005.01.30 22:02:00 - [6] Originally by: Berneh Originally by: Admiral IceBlock firstly, this is not stain. this is the collective, im sure it will be dealt with internally... Will i get my ship back ? no "We brake for nobody"
Berneh	Posted - 2005.01.30 22:12:00 - [7] Typical stain then ------------------------------------------------ Proud Member of the lubed up fox Unbeliever makes me want to hold something close to my bussom
Berneh	Posted - 2005.01.30 22:16:00 - [8] And how come stain and shinra are in kahoots anyway ? i thought shinra were pirates ------------------------------------------------ Proud Member of the lubed up fox Unbeliever makes me want to hold something close to my bussom
Magic Trev	Posted - 2005.01.30 22:22:00 - [9] dude post about you dieing all you want, no1 really cares tbh... you got gate ganked... end of story ------------------
Vampire Blade	Posted - 2005.01.30 22:26:00 - [10] gah, you naive fool. all alliances act in this way, you're either blue or you die. i geuss every alliance is a pirate then? ----- ----- -----
Kyle Caldrel	Posted - 2005.01.30 22:28:00 - [11] stop whineing carebear. You walked right into a gategank in 0.0. Also, they dident break rules, its 0.0, there are no damn rules!
Berneh	Posted - 2005.01.30 22:44:00 - [12] i'm not whining, just asking questions thats all.... ------------------------------------------------ Proud Member of the lubed up fox Unbeliever makes me want to hold something close to my bussom
Antoinette Civari	Posted - 2005.01.30 22:45:00 - [13] Never, really never take a ship into .0 or unsecure space at all if you cant afford to loose it. This wont get your ship back but it will help your wallet in the future.
Dave Thomas	Posted - 2005.01.30 22:45:00 - [14] Originally by: Kyle Caldrel stop whineing carebear. You walked right into a gategank in 0.0. Also, they dident break rules, its 0.0, there are no damn rules! There's a difference between gatecamping a system you control and camping a system like EC-P8R, where Stain Empire has NO jurisdiction. What were you guys doing so far north anyway? Shouldn't you be attacking FIX for some bullcrap reason so that you can try to provoke FA into a war? Real classy. I remember when SE used to be the good guys.
Siddy	Posted - 2005.01.30 22:52:00 - [15] Edited by: Siddy on 30/01/2005 22:52:37 Stain is not acting like a pirat Stain is acting like an empire -------------------------------------------
idimmu69	Posted - 2005.01.30 22:57:00 - [16] Originally by: Dave Thomas There's a difference between gatecamping a system you control and camping a system like EC-P8R, where Stain Empire has NO jurisdiction. There are a lot of corps that camp EC-P8R. The camp changes several times daily. Saying that the Collective has no jurisdiction there is true. Nobody has jurisdiction there. Pureblind is unclaimed. EC is a highway from empire to the northern regions. A lot of people lose their ships/lives there everyday. In a gatecamp, anyone not blue is usually shot at, as there usually isn't time to convo and ask about affiliations. Sometimes neutrals get shot. It's nothing personal. Work it out with evemail to the ceo of the corp(s) involved. The other day our group in EC attacked a Collective person by accident. They didn't go to the forums. They handled it in game and the issue was resolved (and standings adjusted i believe) The next day they were in our gang. If you can't be blue, might as well be purple sorry for your loss though.
F'nog	Posted - 2005.01.30 23:05:00 - [17] What were you doing flying through the most dangerous system in the game with an uninsured BS? I'm normally a nice guy, but that was a pretty stupid move. In a situation like that, where they were probably looking for pirates to gank, and where they expect everyone to be a hostile wanting to either run their camp, or break it up, they're not gonna bother to see who you are. If you're not blue, you're dead. Let this be a lesson NEVER to undock in an uninsured BS, especially in 0.0, let alone travel in one.
Tarsha Listur	Posted - 2005.01.30 23:31:00 - [18] 1. he was insured 2. just because you kill someone in 0.0 does this make you anyless of a pirate. Just because there is no law. 3. he was asking a simple question, THATS ALL
Lallante	Posted - 2005.01.30 23:35:00 - [19] When did stain become pirates? I think it was the same day that "pirates" became a description used only by noobs and Celestial apoc (the second part of the list being of course redundant) Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
Zanthiuse	Posted - 2005.01.30 23:42:00 - [20] Edited by: Zanthiuse on 01/02/2005 05:39:28 Originally by: Lallante When did stain become pirates? I think it was the same day that "pirates" became a description used only by noobs and Celestial apoc (the second part of the list being of course redundant) Hehe, so true. ____________________________ Waiting to cut out the deadwood. Waiting to clean up the city. Waiting to follow the worms.
Jazz Bo	Posted - 2005.01.31 00:07:00 - [21] Originally by: Lallante When did stain become pirates? I think it was the same day that "pirates" became a description used only by noobs and Celestial apoc (the second part of the list being of course redundant) Still obsessed with us, huh? Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
mute	Posted - 2005.01.31 00:40:00 - [22] I can anwser your question but beware my english suck. First of all collective frig swat was hunting F-E pilot into EC-P8R and he got away. At the gate into torrinos did we see Everlasting Vendetta & Divine Retribution camping the gate with bs/cruisers/frigs. We didnt mind them since Everlasting Vendetta did have +5.0 standing to collective and Divine Retribution where neutral. But when we where all at gate they locked us down and killed our frigs. We move our attack team up north to deal with this act since they had no reson for that attack and EVER gang leader told me it was because they need more targets ? We start our assult in small ships hunting ever and cheaking the area. After 2-3 days flying around there we have had so much trouble with neutrals killing our pilot that we take no change up there. But we dont attack unless your corp have bad standing to us and lots of corp up there have been attacking our pilot and there for they get on to our kos list. If u wanna be removed there then talk to areyn sun for details. Hope this will anwser your questions
darth solo	Posted - 2005.01.31 00:51:00 - [23] Originally by: Vampire Blade gah, you naive fool. all alliances act in this way, you're either blue or you die. i geuss every alliance is a pirate then? u are the fool.... ecp8r is unclaimed space. NO1 HOLDS its... SE killed the dude outwith SE space, what else is it if not piracy?.. and no, its not the norm. CA done the exact same thing in pf-346, and made many enemies from it... SE are going the same way. d solo.
darth solo	Posted - 2005.01.31 00:58:00 - [24] Originally by: Lallante When did stain become pirates? I think it was the same day that "pirates" became a description used only by noobs and Celestial apoc (the second part of the list being of course redundant) moron. d solo.
Zeron Zeth	Posted - 2005.01.31 01:10:00 - [25] Edited by: Zeron Zeth on 31/01/2005 01:09:52 In some wierd way i can understand his questions.. If it had been Snigg he wouldn`t gone to forum, but Stain usually have a reputation to be a great alliance that leave the neutral unless they invade their space.. Ec-p are not stain`s place, and if he weren`t red then i think they should show that they are worth the respect they have and give him back isk for a new Mega.. And yes, i know i aint the right man to say that..But it`s kinda the same as me getting ransom and blow up a ship by accident..I give back the ransom isk. It`s all about honor.. _______________________________________________
Qul mang	Posted - 2005.01.31 01:18:00 - [26] Are you kidding Bernh if youre in 0.0 accept losses why whine about it if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Btw send my regards to Alias
Calisto Lockhart	Posted - 2005.01.31 01:26:00 - [27] Edited by: Calisto Lockhart on 31/01/2005 01:26:49 I prefer "if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen, then atomize it " Originally by: Qul mang Are you kidding Bernh if youre in 0.0 accept losses why whine about it if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
Berneh	Posted - 2005.01.31 01:32:00 - [28] Originally by: mute I can anwser your question but beware my english suck. First of all collective frig swat was hunting F-E pilot into EC-P8R and he got away. At the gate into torrinos did we see Everlasting Vendetta & Divine Retribution camping the gate with bs/cruisers/frigs. We didnt mind them since Everlasting Vendetta did have +5.0 standing to collective and Divine Retribution where neutral. But when we where all at gate they locked us down and killed our frigs. We move our attack team up north to deal with this act since they had no reson for that attack and EVER gang leader told me it was because they need more targets ? We start our assult in small ships hunting ever and cheaking the area. After 2-3 days flying around there we have had so much trouble with neutrals killing our pilot that we take no change up there. But we dont attack unless your corp have bad standing to us and lots of corp up there have been attacking our pilot and there for they get on to our kos list. If u wanna be removed there then talk to areyn sun for details. Hope this will anwser your questions Your corp is neutrel to mine, Does this mean that stain has added everybody that is neutrel to their kos list ? ------------------------------------------------ Proud Member of the lubed up fox Unbeliever makes me want to hold something close to my bussom
Vampire Blade	Posted - 2005.01.31 01:35:00 - [29] Originally by: darth solo Originally by: Vampire Blade gah, you naive fool. all alliances act in this way, you're either blue or you die. i geuss every alliance is a pirate then? u are the fool.... ecp8r is unclaimed space. NO1 HOLDS its... SE killed the dude outwith SE space, what else is it if not piracy?.. and no, its not the norm. CA done the exact same thing in pf-346, and made many enemies from it... SE are going the same way. d solo. it doesn't matter, don't deny that alliances act in this way - it's nothing new. you know this and i know this. you're either part of their little club or you get raped. "anti-pirate" haha it's just a superficial title now. anyway, this wasn't an act of piracy, it's was an outright gank. ----- ----- -----
Alias11	Posted - 2005.01.31 01:54:00 - [30] every alliance is the same berneh its kill or be killed, all u can do is make sure before you go into these sys is that u cheak with ppl to find out if its safe. but its a fact that ppl do loose ships and this the way to learn. the main thing you have to do is forget about and get bck to where you where

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