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CmdrRat	Posted - 2005.01.31 06:24:00 - [1] IÆve watched these forums for a long time and seen countless ôso and so is a scum bagö and such more often than IÆd like. Mostly from failed 1 Vs 1 and scams. Tonight I had an experience that made me want to post here for all of eve to see. Tonight members of Bob headed to Fix space to conduct a little raid, after all that traveling we where outnumbered 3 to 1 so decided that jumping in would be a bad idea. This decision was made AFTER I jumped into the system in my frig to scout the area. So I was stuck in system with 60 people that didnÆt exactly like to see my ship in one piece and where given an opportunity to rectify that problem when I jumped into them to gather more Intel. As I was warping out an instalock tempest poped my frig before any of their support fleet could lock me let alone fire to get on the killmail. I was impressed. I was able to get my pod out and spent the next 20 or so mins talking to them in local, while both of our alliances have no talking in local policies we where keeping it light hearted and avoided the smack talk. Here is a log of what followed our nice conversation. * CmdrRat wonders how the hell he is going to get out of here Boldyn > Cmd, u want to leave? CmdrRat > I'd like to CmdrRat > with my tail between my legs CmdrRat > :) Boldyn > allright, u may leave through p-z, camp wont shoot u CmdrRat > usualy I wouldn't trust anyone to make that agrement CmdrRat > but "-=== Honor above all ===-" Boldyn > NO ONE SHOTS COMANDER RAT Kodos > dont shoot him either Adam Dartnell > NOBODY IS TO FIRE UPON CMDRRAT Boldyn > IF U DO, I WILL POP U MYSELF S3VYN > cmdr, if you get shot get with me immediately S3VYN > I'll handle it personally CmdrRat > can I make one small request Adam Dartnell > S3VYN's on the pull.... Rolo Tomasi > lol Boldyn > Name it CmdrRat > am I able to dock at the station to get a nuwb ship CmdrRat > moves faster than a pod without bookamrks hehe Xantor > lol S3VYN > nah dude... no one to do settings CmdrRat > k Howling > we would have to change settings CmdrRat > warping to gate Xantor > safe travels home S3VYN > fly safe, gf and gl Boldyn > if u get targeted, give me the name of the guy targetting u, he will be jammed Marko Debreault > have little priavte grade rat babies CmdrRat > lol ilandri > waves FlyingEyes > waves CmdrRat > o/ Countdown > o/ Xantor > \o Crzycnck2 > \o/ barathan > i cant find the middlefinger CmdrRat > lol EVE System > Channel changed I flew in my pod past SIXTY ships and not a single one targeted me. Not a single one chased me. Not a single one tried to bump me. While our paths might lead us to fire on each other in the future let it never be said that Fix is without honor. Picture one Picture two ________________________________________________ Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism and communism, War Has Never Solved Anything
Carmen Priano	Posted - 2005.01.31 06:30:00 - [2] Well, hot diggity. Sounds like some good folks down South.
Alair LabRat	Posted - 2005.01.31 06:37:00 - [3] Edited by: Alair LabRat on 31/01/2005 07:09:36 /wave CmdrRat Was busy watching for anyone firing while your pod flew toward the gate. If Boldyn had called out the name of one of our ships... I've been with FIX about 3 weeks. Had been playing PlanetSide with Hostile Takeover for the previous year. HT isn't in Eve, and before I joined FIX I missed the high level of organization and comradery that I had with them. For two days FIX has had no rest. For whatever reason we find ourselves defending our home. We are outnumbered in the extreme. There is no complaining. Our leaders and our pilots are as tight as an alliance can be. I might wake up tommorow and discover nothing left of FIX in Querious. That's the challenge we're facing. Regardless, I know from what I've seen that I can't go wrong with these people. Forged in Battle, We Will Govern Ourselves.
Red Istar	Posted - 2005.01.31 06:40:00 - [4] Talk about biting off more than you can chew...sheesh Still, they are FA puppets and FA are the devil. DEATH TO FA! =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Do not trust to hope. It is forsaken these lands.
VinterDvala	Posted - 2005.01.31 06:40:00 - [5] well i know for a fact that offer was made to another person and when he flew his pod to the gate he was killed .... you have to respect ppl who let someone go but question it when they kill another
S3VYN	Posted - 2005.01.31 06:42:00 - [6] Thanks CmdrRat for posting this. FIX has gotten a lot of (some deserved, some undeserved but earned) negative publicity lately. But for all my experiences with fights we've gotten along so well in local it has made me wonder why on earth we are shooting each other in the first place. Either way, good fight and was a blast to chat away with you in local... ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
S3VYN	Posted - 2005.01.31 06:43:00 - [7] Originally by: VinterDvala well i know for a fact that offer was made to another person and when he flew his pod to the gate he was killed .... you have to respect ppl who let someone go but question it when they kill another That pilot was J'Hal and we are arranging to replace his clone as well as his implants. I'm sure he will back us up on this. The only delay is that I have to place the request along with the war expense requests so it's going to take me a bit to get the isk lined up for him. His case was an accident and the offending pilot was dealt with quite appropriately. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
Temi	Posted - 2005.01.31 06:45:00 - [8] Quote: ...while both of our alliances... but your not an alliance!!!!!!!!! Spelling errors ahoy..
Temi	Posted - 2005.01.31 06:49:00 - [9] Originally by: VinterDvala well i know for a fact that offer was made to another person and when he flew his pod to the gate he was killed .... you have to respect ppl who let someone go but question it when they kill another you get that from any group of players.. i mean no matter what alliance your talking about etc theres always someone who will scam you on a 1v1 etc oh and usually it hardly takes an effort to make those ppl flaming alliance x look like hypocrites(or whatever the spelling is) Spelling errors ahoy..
CmdrRat	Posted - 2005.01.31 06:53:00 - [10] Originally by: Temi Quote: ...while both of our alliances... but your not an alliance!!!!!!!!! oh god not that again :) We're not an offical alliance, but look the word up, our little Band of Brothers fits the def rather nicly. Now I'm sure to get the wrath of my corp mates for saying we're an alliance but that's just my opinion. I'll let the offical word come from someone in a place to say but I consider us an informal alliance. ________________________________________________ Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism and communism, War Has Never Solved Anything
Cleaner Renaelc	Posted - 2005.01.31 06:55:00 - [11] Originally by: Red Istar Talk about biting off more than you can chew...sheesh Still, they are FA puppets and FA are the devil. DEATH TO FA! That was not nice thing to say, we are noones puppets. Check the map man FA are FA, FIX is FIX. The only thing thats important about FA and FIX is that they are neighbours.
Randay	Posted - 2005.01.31 07:00:00 - [12] Originally by: VinterDvala well i know for a fact that offer was made to another person and when he flew his pod to the gate he was killed .... you have to respect ppl who let someone go but question it when they kill another Do you have any idea how hard it is to keep 60 bloodthirsty pilots from shooting a pod :). I dont know exactly which incident you are talking about but im sure there was a lot of yelling at qdf pilots and a lot of apologizing to the podded pilot. Thank you very much cmdrat for sharing your story. sorry for blocking you but im very often tempted to talk in local, and even tho nothing very bad comes out of my mouth, i still usually get the "STFU in local" thing
Alair	Posted - 2005.01.31 07:40:00 - [13] Quote: Do you have any idea how hard it is to keep 60 bloodthirsty pilots from shooting a pod :). I dont know exactly which incident you are talking about but im sure there was a lot of yelling at qdf pilots and a lot of apologizing to the podded pilot. That is exactly what happened. The order went out to let the pilot pass and someone wasn't paying attention. The TS conversation immediately afterward and again about an hour later was... colorful. That pilot should know it was unintentional and very regrettable. I was personally very ****ed off about it and I understand the people who made the offer of safe passage are committed to compensate. Lurking at the bottom of the gravity well, getting old.
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2005.01.31 08:28:00 - [14] heh have to say the FIX guys seem like a decent bunch :) I decided to take a 20 day old corp m8 for a lil bit of fun in 0.0 (We where **ed as hell) we got a reasonable way in and where just taking some easyer spawns but where then asked to leave due to no pass .. hehe. Sadly in finding a gate camp being a genious I decided to fire on an in-range Af then leg it like a girl to a moon. They spent the next 15 minutes telling me to leave, Sadly in my drunken state I didn't pay a lot of attention to the 'No really you can leave.. we wont fire' and then proceeded to run around the moons like a girl and then challenge the Af to a 1 on 1 ... screamed like a girl when the Af warped in with a geddon.... But then was suprised when was informed in GangChat .. 'look we are here ! not at the gate... now just leave' Rofl i'd have just killed me ... Urrr soz off topic a bit (though same kind of lines) So to the 2 guys that I annoyed, ( wont bother mentioning names) Thx Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5** 'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant'
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2005.01.31 08:31:00 - [15] And on another note my corp m8 lost his Rax and was then podded by Fix on the way out , We where told we would be allowed to leave safely And I was told it was a 'Mistake' ... though tbh we shouldn't have been there they did let me leave even after I was being a***. So cant say anything bad against that Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5** 'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant'
Mindlles	Posted - 2005.01.31 08:37:00 - [16] Thx for that, As an admiral FIX always tryes to hold our words, sometimes ppl dont listen and missunderstandings happends. But we scream as much we can to prove our honor. We will fight our enemys and never stand down. But be nice is something that is never wrong to be ;) And if we fight in the future, so let it be =) Aslong we have fun
Caldari Citizen 35610	Posted - 2005.01.31 08:42:00 - [17] FIX are nice chaps, they're good people, they fight with honour to protect their space from rats like SE. Politics can be solved without aggression only airheaded pirates fight for no reason.
Siddy	Posted - 2005.01.31 08:59:00 - [18] Edited by: Siddy on 31/01/2005 09:01:54 Honor Amongst Alliances... is unexistant there is few exeptions but commonly every major alliance choos security and 110% of sucsess by outnumbering foe than "honorable fight" with 50/50 outcome chanse anything else? /me after red this - i was in alike situation with FA, and guess did THEY let me trought? -------------------------------------------
Randay	Posted - 2005.01.31 09:14:00 - [19] Originally by: Siddy Edited by: Siddy on 31/01/2005 09:01:54 Honor Amongst Alliances... is unexistant there is few exeptions but commonly every major alliance choos security and 110% of sucsess by outnumbering foe than "honorable fight" with 50/50 outcome chanse anything else? /me after red this - i was in alike situation with FA, and guess did THEY let me trought? did they let you through? id like to know. also personally i find fighting overwhelming odds fun. nothing like the rush of taking on 4-6 hostiles in a heavy assault :) ive been in about 4 situations like that and its a lot more fun then fleet battles :)
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2005.01.31 09:16:00 - [20] Well last time I checked this post wasn't about FA Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5 'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant'
exotic dancer	Posted - 2005.01.31 09:31:00 - [21] only CA had the balls to kill BoB members
Hedy	Posted - 2005.01.31 10:08:00 - [22] Originally by: exotic dancer only CA had the balls to kill BoB members If thats what you want to call it fair enough your choice, Pvp is about skill in killing enemy ships, not about killing unarmed defenceless pods, we do not target pods in fleet battles as its pointless and also the pilot was there to have fun ect and kill stuff that could in return kill him, blowing up his pod is no skill, ok accidents happen and I am only talking about fleet battles here. Call it a twisted sense of honour or something, But if you lost your ship fighting the good fight it's nice to know that at least you can go back and get another, we show respect to enemies when it is due, respect in this case is trying not to pod people in fleet battles.
Primer Xenius	Posted - 2005.01.31 10:26:00 - [23] The CA power vacuum is doing strange things "we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2005.01.31 10:32:00 - [24] Yes, it always makes sense to let an enemy escape to fetch a new ship with which to kill your alliance members. Yeah, they honoured their words but they were kind of silly to let you give them the oppurtunity to keep their word. They should've camped you until you got bored and logged. It's one more enemy out of the equation, after all. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Luc Boye	Posted - 2005.01.31 10:35:00 - [25] Originally by: Joshua Calvert Yes, it always makes sense to let an enemy escape to fetch a new ship with which to kill your alliance members. Tsk, you're so negative, Josh -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Nathan Voughn	Posted - 2005.01.31 11:05:00 - [26] Credit goes to FIX clearly for being a level headed and decent bunch of people. They know what they do, they have fun in the game and on top of that they are honorable. Most importantly they care about their space a lot more then other entities that claimed that area before.
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.01.31 11:11:00 - [27] Wow, fix really do deserve a MIGHTY amount of respect for that. And the way that get controlled all 60 people not to lock is incredible. I thought most alliances always had at least 1 dumb**** that didnt listen on teamspeak/local/anythingelse. Much respect to fix.
Ben Zarba	Posted - 2005.01.31 11:13:00 - [28] Originally by: Hedy Pvp is about skill in killing enemy ships, not about killing unarmed defenceless pods, we do not target pods in fleet battles as its pointless and also the pilot was there to have fun ect and kill stuff that could in return kill him, blowing up his pod is no skill If that is official Alliance policy then I for one am impressed. What a pleasure it would be to fight such an opponent or even fight for such an ally.
Boldyn	Posted - 2005.01.31 11:24:00 - [29] Originally by: exotic dancer only CA had the balls to kill BoB members /me waves at Siim
Mozinator1	Posted - 2005.01.31 11:30:00 - [30] Edited by: Mozinator1 on 31/01/2005 11:32:25 All i can say is ... Thanx to all those that oppose us and give there all to the fight ... for I know we do.... Welcome to another F.Ix - BBQ picnic
Hedy	Posted - 2005.01.31 11:32:00 - [31] Edited by: Hedy on 31/01/2005 11:35:20
Vashy Stampede	Posted - 2005.01.31 11:37:00 - [32] Showing mercy to spies is like asking for trouble. Now FIX is sending the message that goes "Want to spy on us? No problem, just come in a noob ship so it won't hurt when we nuke it and let you go in your pod." Ah well, guess that's life The best things in life aren't things.
Jehnr Exec	Posted - 2005.01.31 11:42:00 - [33] Wow vashy do you actually read the posts you respond to... check the name of the poster... does that look like an npc alt to you??? CmdrRat is an Evolution enemy pilot who came down to 9cg to scout for his fleet and his ship got blown up in the process. I think he outlines the incident very nicely. FIX pilots got chatting with him in local and in respect for that we allowed him to vacate FIX space unharmed. It is meant of a sign of respect for your foe... guess you have no concept of that.
Vashy Stampede	Posted - 2005.01.31 11:46:00 - [34] Originally by: Jehnr Exec Wow vashy do you actually read the posts you respond to... check the name of the poster... does that look like an npc alt to you??? CmdrRat is an Evolution enemy pilot who came down to 9cg to scout for his fleet and his ship got blown up in the process. I think he outlines the incident very nicely. FIX pilots got chatting with him in local and in respect for that we allowed him to vacate FIX space unharmed. It is meant of a sign of respect for your foe... guess you have no concept of that. Take your own advice, you're babbling about things that make no sense. And showing respect to your foes does not equal wisdom. From a strategic point of view, that was not really a sweet move and does send the wrong message. That you fail to grasp such a simple concept is not my fault. The way I see it, you don't respect your foes by showing them mercy, you show them respect by giving it all you got to stop them from advancing. The best things in life aren't things.
Jehnr Exec	Posted - 2005.01.31 11:48:00 - [35] Wow you suck ass mate...hope you dont represent the mindset of your beloved empire.
Jehnr Exec	Posted - 2005.01.31 11:51:00 - [36] I know for a fact you dont represent the mindset of your corporation. ASCI are a bunch of stand up guys if ever you met some. FIX knows them well.
Vashy Stampede	Posted - 2005.01.31 11:53:00 - [37] Edited by: Vashy Stampede on 31/01/2005 13:33:16 Originally by: Jehnr Exec Wow you suck ass mate...hope you dont represent the mindset of your beloved empire. I tend to believe that I represent none but myself. However, regardless of who/what I represent, it doesn't make it any less factual. Edit: I don't know how well you think you know ASCI, but ASCI's Security department has no problem at all with podding direct/indirect threats. I severly doubt they'd "let go of a spy" because of a misguided concept you guys have for the word "honour". They would be 1. endangering not only their area but also ASCI as a corp; 2. showing disrespect to their opponents by pitying them. You might want to learn the difference between "friendship", "mercy" and "respect" before you start talking to me. Quote: I agree what they did wasnt the best idea but its the principal of keeping there word etc that should be respect. Not the decision. Pretty much The best things in life aren't things.
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.01.31 11:58:00 - [38] I agree what they did wasnt the best idea but its the principal of keeping there word etc that should be respect. Not the decision.
exotic dancer	Posted - 2005.01.31 12:12:00 - [39] Originally by: Hedy Originally by: exotic dancer only CA had the balls to kill BoB members If thats what you want to call it fair enough your choice, Pvp is about skill in killing enemy ships, not about killing unarmed defenceless pods, we do not target pods in fleet battles as its pointless and also the pilot was there to have fun ect and kill stuff that could in return kill him, blowing up his pod is no skill, ok accidents happen and I am only talking about fleet battles here. Call it a twisted sense of honour or something, But if you lost your ship fighting the good fight it's nice to know that at least you can go back and get another, we show respect to enemies when it is due, respect in this case is trying not to pod people in fleet battles. Do the same to your enemy what enemy would do to you!
heavyg	Posted - 2005.01.31 13:39:00 - [40] 2 points; Our word is our bond, you can take it to the bank. Anyone who breaks the word of a Senior member will be hauled over the coals then bathed in salt water While you may not see the wisdom of our actions, they are thought through (most of the time), we do what we do, and play the way we play for a reason. Good fights so far, CYA in space.
heavyg	Posted - 2005.01.31 13:43:00 - [41] Originally by: Joshua Calvert Yes, it always makes sense to let an enemy escape to fetch a new ship with which to kill your alliance members. 20+ jumps in a pod to get a new ship before being able to retun to fight or Pod them and have them back in half the time, Do the math.
Thubbi Hzho	Posted - 2005.01.31 15:46:00 - [42] "Do you have any idea how hard it is to keep 60 bloodthirsty pilots from shooting a pod :)." Right. Look at what this says about FIXÆs discipline and command controlùkeeping 60-something fingers off the triggers as a red pod slowly slides by to the gate! Amazing. The restraint shown is particularly notable when you look at who was thereùthat Kodos and Dartnell are cold-blooded killers whoÆll shoot a man just to watch them die. Haw! Have fun, allùand go FIX!
Hedy	Posted - 2005.01.31 15:50:00 - [43] Originally by: Thubbi Hzho "Do you have any idea how hard it is to keep 60 bloodthirsty pilots from shooting a pod :)." Right. Look at what this says about FIXÆs discipline and command controlùkeeping 60-something fingers off the triggers as a red pod slowly slides by to the gate! Amazing. The restraint shown is particularly notable when you look at who was thereùthat Kodos and Dartnell are cold-blooded killers whoÆll shoot a man just to watch them die. Haw! Have fun, allùand go FIX! Yes we had to throw Kodos some steaks and get his attention elsewhere for that, I think the guy has rabies or something, he foams alot at the mouth.
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.01.31 16:08:00 - [44] Please commander rat tell us more about honor.lol.
S3VYN	Posted - 2005.01.31 16:21:00 - [45] Edited by: S3VYN on 31/01/2005 16:21:53 I know I, personally, am a student of Bushido. I recommend anyone who considers themselves warrior subscribe to at least one traditional warrior school of thought. This includes Bushido for the mighty Samurai, and "Chivalry" for the European statesmen known as "knights." If you begin to study what real warriors (not those who pretend to be warriors in a video game) traditionally believe and abide by you will begin to realize the difference between a combatant and a terrorist. FIX has honor permeating its being. We were founded on the word given between several corporations and that word has been something NONE of us have broken with each other. Even those who leave to go to our enemy do so respectfully and without causing internal conflict or treachery. And in general, we remain friends with them because of the mutual respect each and every one of us are required to earn from each other. Lots of people in video games balk at suggestions like mine. But then again, lots of "agreements" in video games crumble at the first sign of major pressure. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
heavyg	Posted - 2005.01.31 17:07:00 - [46] Originally by: pershphanie Please commander rat tell us more about honor.lol. Please do not mistake honnor for stupidity, our word was given and kept. end of story. the whys and wherfores are not at issue here.
Dafuzz	Posted - 2005.01.31 17:24:00 - [47] Originally by: pershphanie Please commander rat tell us more about honor.lol. He would definitely be a good one to teach you what honor and friendship is all about. You are very correct in asking him to tell you more. I am sure he will avail himself to educate you, because you definitely need lessons in the honor department. Why dontcha head down south for a personal lesson? Oh, btw, hi2u :) -- -If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets..
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.01.31 18:00:00 - [48] Edited by: pershphanie on 31/01/2005 18:01:10 Originally by: heavyg Originally by: pershphanie Please commander rat tell us more about honor.lol. Please do not mistake honnor for stupidity, our word was given and kept. end of story. the whys and wherfores are not at issue here. Didn't mean it as a knock against fix. I'm sure you guys are very honorable. I just found comndrRat telling anyone about honor quite funny.
Sir Altsalot	Posted - 2005.01.31 18:01:00 - [49] Originally by: Dafuzz Originally by: pershphanie Please commander rat tell us more about honor.lol. He would definitely be a good one to teach you what honor and friendship is all about. You are very correct in asking him to tell you more. I am sure he will avail himself to educate you, because you definitely need lessons in the honor department. The two biggest spies and traitors the PA ever saw talking about honesty and honor! CmdRat and Dafuzz were carebears in PA council one day and in evolution the next. Evol doesnt take carebears. That is, unless they are offering something. Be quiet traitors.
Chucky	Posted - 2005.01.31 18:23:00 - [50] Cheers to Fix for being so honorable, I'm proud to have you as a friend and ally. As for BoB, I apologize for my Corp members smack during last nightÆs attacks. Although you did fire 1st and trespassed into Delve, you deserve more respect then the scum we normally encounter. See ya in space! ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
J'har	Posted - 2005.01.31 18:40:00 - [51] Ya, its J'har not J'hal The same thing that happened to CmdrRat happened to me, but the ending was not quite the same I do however belive FIX will reinburse my loses, so no harm done. Even if they dont, i personaly think (atlest the ones i know)that fix is a honurable alliance and i'm proud to have such a honurable enemy but at the same time sadend that they are an enemy in the first place If i get reinbursed i give my word that no fix member shall die by my guns (ships not included ), cept the 2 that killed me even tho i was promised safe passage (only the 2 from a fleet of aprox 50-60 targeted and eventualy shot at me, so i can vauch for fix keeping their word on not attacking me, but also know its hard to controll everyone in gangs, as i have been in a similar situations where this has happened within SE). See you in the battlefield FIX
CmdrRat	Posted - 2005.01.31 23:35:00 - [52] Originally by: Sir Altsalot Originally by: Dafuzz Originally by: pershphanie Please commander rat tell us more about honor.lol. He would definitely be a good one to teach you what honor and friendship is all about. You are very correct in asking him to tell you more. I am sure he will avail himself to educate you, because you definitely need lessons in the honor department. The two biggest spies and traitors the PA ever saw talking about honesty and honor! CmdRat and Dafuzz were carebears in PA council one day and in evolution the next. Evol doesnt take carebears. That is, unless they are offering something. Be quiet traitors. For those of you that don't know my history This thread should make for some good reading. Mister Alt, I've given up trying to dispell the "spy" lies about me but if you have any idea how many carebears there are in evol your head would esplode. And I just don't understand why anyone would think a evol "spy" would switch from his "target's" corp to his real corp AND make a goodbye post on it the alliance forms. If you want to flame me start your own thread. This one is mine! ________________________________________________ Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism and communism, War Has Never Solved Anything
Scythmar	Posted - 2005.02.01 18:18:00 - [53] But...if you don't shoot their pod...how can you later shoot the corpse...to hear the nice squishy sound? --------------- I guarantee that my opinions are the complete opposite of those of my corp and alliance. Get over it.

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