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jibjubi4
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Posted - 2011.02.26 13:04:00 -
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I have looked all over the forum and can't find anything similar to a bug report.
When I set my extractor on Keproh II for base metals I get a readout of 11000 units extracted per cycle. After I install the program though it jumps down to 4500 units a cycle. I tried resetting the extractor's program, adding a control head and routing the base metals again. I have not tried deleting the extractor and building another one.
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TriFrantic
Arcturus Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.26 13:15:00 -
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You sure output isn't 5500?
Readout will tell you 11 000 per hour, but the extractor will generate base metals every 30 minutes to your storage.
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Neoscience
Amarr
Phantom Legion
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Posted - 2011.02.26 13:31:00 -
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I have the same problem with PI atm - When setting up my extractors i am getting a total extraction of 17k (about 17k units every 15 mins). But after starting the program it will jump down to 11k or 10k.
The reading on when setting up the extractors is not the same as when you start the program.
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Greg Huff
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Posted - 2011.02.26 19:48:00 -
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Before you install the program the numbers you see are estimates. After you install it you get the actual numbers. You're Planetology and Advance Planetology skills give you more accurate scans the higher they are. The more accurate your scan is, the less likely you are to have drastic changes between the estimate and actual numbers.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
T2 Technologies Unlimited
SRS.
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Posted - 2011.02.27 03:53:00 -
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I think the fact that other players are extracting from the same area will have an effect on what you will get.
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Kieron VonDeux
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Posted - 2011.02.27 10:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kieron VonDeux on 27/02/2011 10:03:31
 Originally by: Brock Nelson
I think the fact that other players are extracting from the same area will have an effect on what you will get.
No, this is a noticable change within the last several days. Nothing to do with depletion since the old, higher numbers, come back when you stop the plan.
I've seen a 50% drop from what was said in the readout before I installed the plan from after I installed the plan.
If I stop the plan I see the old higher numbers again. Then the lower numbers after I install it.
This is repeatable. Although I've occasionally seen higher numbers after plan install.
The per head numbers don't change in either case. I currently think it is a bug in the readout of an inprogress plan. Very annoying tbh.
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jibjubi4
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Posted - 2011.02.27 10:35:00 -
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-You sure output isn't 5500?
Readout will tell you 11 000 per hour, but the extractor will generate base metals every 30 minutes to your storage.-
That's not the problem. I have 30 planets and have been doing PI for about 2 months now and have never seen such a drastic change. My link that hasn't been upgraded should be at about 70-80% capacity but after the plan is installed it went down to a measly 17 then 19 after i added another head. That's quite a bit more than a 50% decrease. I guess I will have to invest the time to train my 6 characters scanning abilities... bleh
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xXxSatsujinxXx
Reaper Industries
Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2011.02.27 19:45:00 -
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I have this too, started about 4-5 days ago i think. It isn't confusion about the per hour numbers and 30minute cycles, this is about it predicting one number and delivering a totally different number after submitting.
Eve wiki states that the number quoted is guaranteed to be delivered, so even with depletion etc, you'd still get what you're quoted, you'd just be quoted less.
I petitioned, went through the motions of decommissioning the ecu/entire planet facility etc, and after hours of faffing about, i was given the shrugged shoulders treatment and told to file a bug report.
Considering this is how i pay for my sub, CCP has about 2weeks left to fix this. :(
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Xearal
Minmatar
SOL Industries
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.27 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Greg Huff
Before you install the program the numbers you see are estimates. After you install it you get the actual numbers. You're Planetology and Advance Planetology skills give you more accurate scans the higher they are. The more accurate your scan is, the less likely you are to have drastic changes between the estimate and actual numbers.
THIS!
Get your planetology skills up, so you get better scans. I have them near max, and I get very accurate readings. A friend of mine used to have very crappy planetology skills, and we compared the heat maps of planets on 2 screens together. His map was very different from mine, and when testing out howmuch 'his' and 'my' heat spots generated, mine were much higher.
If he went and put his extractors on the spots _I_ said were good, which on his map were very low sometimes, he'd get higher extractions than what he predicted, because his planetology sucked.
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Russian Rambo
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.27 23:52:00 -
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Quote:
Get your planetology skills up, so you get better scans. I have them near max, and I get very accurate readings. A friend of mine used to have very crappy planetology skills, and we compared the heat maps of planets on 2 screens together. His map was very different from mine, and when testing out howmuch 'his' and 'my' heat spots generated, mine were much higher.
If he went and put his extractors on the spots _I_ said were good, which on his map were very low sometimes, he'd get higher extractions than what he predicted, because his planetology sucked.
It doesn't explain the difference between amount of resources which are going to be extracted and the real amount. After PI was changed, many bugs appeared. For instance: if I try to (simulate) start and stop extraction in edit mode, amount of resources on a spot, where my ECU is placed, will be decreasing. Even if I didn't apply the changes, resources would be depleted.
P.S. those numbers suck; there is a huge difference between what we expect to get and what we get. |
Kieron VonDeux
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Posted - 2011.02.28 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Xearal
THIS!
Get your planetology skills up,...
Wrong, both of my scanning skills are at IV and I've never had this issue before, and it only happens once in a while.
This is a recent change to some of my installations within the last several days. I did notice that things went back to normal after I deleted my Extractor Hub. Some others I know still had the issue after they did the same though.
This is an infrequent but annoying bug, IMO.
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.02.28 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Xearal
THIS!
Get your planetology skills up, so you get better scans. I have them near max, and I get very accurate readings. A friend of mine used to have very crappy planetology skills, and we compared the heat maps of planets on 2 screens together. His map was very different from mine, and when testing out howmuch 'his' and 'my' heat spots generated, mine were much higher.
If he went and put his extractors on the spots _I_ said were good, which on his map were very low sometimes, he'd get higher extractions than what he predicted, because his planetology sucked.
You have misunderstood both the problem and the purpose of the skills. CCP's Wiki states that the figures quoted in the graph are guaranteed, however, we are receiving different figures just by closing and reopening. The purpose of the planeteology skills is to give you a better colourchart view, enabling you to see hotspots that others can't etc, nothing to do with the graph.
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Greg Huff
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Posted - 2011.02.28 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Soi Mala
Originally by: Xearal
THIS!
Get your planetology skills up, so you get better scans. I have them near max, and I get very accurate readings. A friend of mine used to have very crappy planetology skills, and we compared the heat maps of planets on 2 screens together. His map was very different from mine, and when testing out howmuch 'his' and 'my' heat spots generated, mine were much higher.
If he went and put his extractors on the spots _I_ said were good, which on his map were very low sometimes, he'd get higher extractions than what he predicted, because his planetology sucked.
You have misunderstood both the problem and the purpose of the skills. CCP's Wiki states that the figures quoted in the graph are guaranteed, however, we are receiving different figures just by closing and reopening. The purpose of the planeteology skills is to give you a better colourchart view, enabling you to see hotspots that others can't etc, nothing to do with the graph.
The numbers shown in the bar graph part of the chart AFTER you install the job are guaranteed. The numbers shown there BEFORE installing are only estimates.
If you are not receiving the correct AFTER INSTALLATION quantities, and your routing and storage is sufficient to handle the entire quantity file a bug report.
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.02.28 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Greg Huff
If you are not receiving the correct AFTER INSTALLATION quantities, and your routing and storage is sufficient to handle the entire quantity file a bug report.
If thats the case then why are GM's trying to solve the problem (or rather, non-problem) by having us rip down our ecu's and sometimes entire planet facilities? They aren't confused, they have been given detailed descriptions and screenshots. This IS a bug, and anyone thinking otherwise is wrong.
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Invictra Atreides
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.01 01:14:00 -
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This might help: Link
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