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Cage Man
Evil Guinea Pigs
1
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Posted - 2012.08.24 22:52:00 -
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Caldari have 2 weapon systems, surely the co-ops subsystem should cater for this? If it did, would it make the Tengu worth using as a cloaky T3 |

TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
216
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Posted - 2012.08.24 22:59:00 -
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Now make it so Gallente can have a proteus capable of fielding a flight of five ogre IIs or sentries as well as a rack of Neutron IIs. "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |

James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2482
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Posted - 2012.08.24 22:59:00 -
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Seriously, a "bufff tengus" thread? 
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2331
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Posted - 2012.08.24 22:59:00 -
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Just fly a Proteus, it is infinitely better at that job.
The Proteus is by far the best U-Boat. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1287
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Posted - 2012.08.24 23:03:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Just fly a Proteus, it is infinitely better at that job.
The Proteus is by far the best U-Boat. How close do U-boats usually get? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
218
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Posted - 2012.08.24 23:08:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote: How close do U-boats usually get?
It's a rare U-Boat that will shove its weaponry up the other ship's tailpipe. Luckily this is a very viable tactic. "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2333
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Posted - 2012.08.24 23:10:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Just fly a Proteus, it is infinitely better at that job.
The Proteus is by far the best U-Boat. How close do U-boats usually get?
Hit approach, then ruin their day when proximity decloaks you, basically. Your bump buys you time to lock and tackle. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Selinate
962
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Posted - 2012.08.24 23:41:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:
Hit approach, then ruin their day when proximity decloaks you, basically. Your bump buys you time to lock and tackle.
I guess you could try this with a legion/conflagration combo, but man, the bonuses on the cloaky module on the legion suuuuuucks.... |

TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
218
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Posted - 2012.08.24 23:43:00 -
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Selinate wrote: I guess you could try this with a legion [...] but man, the [...] legion suuuuuuck[s]....
Paraphrased that for you "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |

Selinate
962
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Posted - 2012.08.24 23:45:00 -
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TheBreadMuncher wrote:Selinate wrote: I guess you could try this with a legion [...] but man, the [...] legion suuuuuuck[s].... Paraphrased that for you
HAM legion with 100mn ab is ok... |

TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
218
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Posted - 2012.08.24 23:46:00 -
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Selinate wrote: HAM legion with 100mn ab is ok...
So long as you know how to fly it. But I believe the Tengu does both HAMs and 100mn better? "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |

Selinate
962
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Posted - 2012.08.24 23:48:00 -
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TheBreadMuncher wrote:Selinate wrote: HAM legion with 100mn ab is ok... So long as you know how to fly it. But I believe the Tengu does both HAMs and 100mn better?
...
Many legion subsystems need fixing. I know. |

TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
218
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Posted - 2012.08.24 23:48:00 -
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Selinate wrote: ...  Many legion subsystems need fixing. I know.
This I agree with. The Amarr should be able to field the best kind of bling: Tech 3s. The Legion may look like bling, but it performs like a plastic Rolex. "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |

Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
303
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Posted - 2012.08.25 00:39:00 -
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Considering in terms of balancing Ytterbum (or however you spell that crazy name) see's the Tengu as the baseline for T3s. Looking forward to having an even more awesome Proteus.
I really need to try out that U-boat fit... |

Adam Junior
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
38
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Posted - 2012.08.25 01:16:00 -
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TheBreadMuncher wrote:Selinate wrote: ...  Many legion subsystems need fixing. I know. This I agree with. The Amarr should be able to field the best kind of bling: Tech 3s. The Legion may look like bling, but it performs like a plastic Rolex.
...Exactly the same as the real thing?  |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1287
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Posted - 2012.08.25 01:23:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Just fly a Proteus, it is infinitely better at that job.
The Proteus is by far the best U-Boat. How close do U-boats usually get? Hit approach, then ruin their day when proximity decloaks you, basically. Your bump buys you time to lock and tackle. That's a really great idea, actually. Damn, bump + close range + blasters. Wow.
I need to do this now. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Charles Baker
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
241
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Posted - 2012.08.25 01:52:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Seriously, a "bufff tengus" thread? 
+1'ing for posterity. |

Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
164
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Posted - 2012.08.25 01:59:00 -
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TheBreadMuncher wrote:Now make it so Gallente can have a proteus capable of fielding a flight of five ogre IIs or sentries as well as a rack of Neutron IIs.
T3 aren't supposed to make T2 obsolete. You want 5 heavies? Use an Ishtar. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2336
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Posted - 2012.08.25 03:05:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Just fly a Proteus, it is infinitely better at that job.
The Proteus is by far the best U-Boat. How close do U-boats usually get? Hit approach, then ruin their day when proximity decloaks you, basically. Your bump buys you time to lock and tackle. That's a really great idea, actually. Damn, bump + close range + blasters. Wow. I need to do this now.
The best part is the absolutely ******** buffer tank you can fit on a Proteus.
Seriously, its stupidly good at this role. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2012.08.25 03:26:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Seriously, a "bufff tengus" thread? 
I'd love to be able to fit 4 or 5 Heavy Beam IIs to a Tengu... that would rock. Drop on a much-hated ASB, and it would be drool worthy. 
Buff, definately buff it. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4449
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Posted - 2012.08.25 03:27:00 -
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'lol' cloaky T3s "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1287
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Posted - 2012.08.25 05:00:00 -
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Andski wrote:'lol' cloaky T3s cloaky and interdiction nullified Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Ghazu
49
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Posted - 2012.08.25 07:30:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Andski wrote:'lol' cloaky T3s cloaky and interdiction nullified It works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kymPCCclPDU&feature=player_embedded#! |

Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1099
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:50:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Just fly a Proteus, it is infinitely better at that job.
The Proteus is by far the best U-Boat. How close do U-boats usually get? Hit approach, then ruin their day when proximity decloaks you, basically. Your bump buys you time to lock and tackle. That's a really great idea, actually. Damn, bump + close range + blasters. Wow. I need to do this now. The best part is the absolutely ******** buffer tank you can fit on a Proteus. Seriously, its stupidly good at this role.
That, and the extended scram range. It's like a pit bull terrier, once it bites you, it doesn't let go. You can kick it and scream, but it's not going anywhere.
By far my favourite ship for wormhole space.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |

Diesel47
Painkiller.
179
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Posted - 2012.08.25 09:04:00 -
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+1 for tengu buff. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
669
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Posted - 2012.08.25 12:07:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Just fly a Proteus, it is infinitely better at that job.
The Proteus is by far the best U-Boat. How close do U-boats usually get?
A 3B Uboat+implants/combat boosters +boosting/probing alt can will always be at the right distance and when it does not it's not much of a problem.
But requires 3+B fit +HG pirate implants/strong combat boosters/booster alt = :effort: (+/- 6B) brb |

TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
221
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Posted - 2012.08.25 16:26:00 -
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Anya Ohaya wrote: T3 aren't supposed to make T2 obsolete. You want 5 heavies? Use an Ishtar.
Okay, now tell the Cerberus that it is better in its role than the Tengu. "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |

Selinate
967
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Posted - 2012.08.26 02:16:00 -
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TheBreadMuncher wrote:Anya Ohaya wrote: T3 aren't supposed to make T2 obsolete. You want 5 heavies? Use an Ishtar. Okay, now tell the Cerberus that it is better in its role than the Tengu.
Considering the, by comparison, MUCH higher cost of losing a T3 when compared to a T2, I'm hesitant to call the effect that the T3 has on the T2 variants for their roles obsolescence. I'd be much more willing to lose a cerb in a PvP match than to risk a tengu where I lose a very expensive ship and even a skill that I've presumably leveled to five in order to optimize my tengu.
Just my opinion. |

lanyaie
506
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Posted - 2012.08.26 02:55:00 -
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This threads needs more webs loki in da building! I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |

Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1099
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Posted - 2012.08.26 08:42:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Just fly a Proteus, it is infinitely better at that job.
The Proteus is by far the best U-Boat. How close do U-boats usually get? A 3B Uboat+implants/combat boosters +boosting/probing alt can will always be at the right distance and when it does not it's not much of a problem. But requires 3+B fit +HG pirate implants/strong combat boosters/booster alt = :effort: (+/- 6B) Edit: Loki easier fit/efficiency imho.
wut
Cloaky Proteus is perfectly fine in a <700mil fit, you'll only want faction tackle and if feeling pimpy, navy magstabs.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
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