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Gierling
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Posted - 2005.01.31 21:55:00 -
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I asked this question before but it was sent to the idea lab to die.
I'd like to know when we can expect these, also can we expect them to have different niche's then the other 2 ships?
Say an Amarr Drone ship, a Gallente Long Range ship or missille boat, an Minmatar EW Platform and a Caldari BS that sucks.
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Garramon
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Posted - 2005.01.31 22:17:00 -
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I am going to guess NEVER. Instead, you'll see more Tech 2 ships, plus a new class or two.
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Buraken v2
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Posted - 2005.01.31 22:23:00 -
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Edited by: Buraken v2 on 31/01/2005 22:23:29
I'd rather see Tier 3 BS and Tier 2 BC before any T2 stuff.
I'm sick and tired of all the bugs and nerfring and balancing with the new ships and weapons and whatnot.
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Black 1
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Posted - 2005.01.31 22:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Buraken v2
Edited by: Buraken v2 on 31/01/2005 22:23:29
I'd rather see Tier 3 BS and Tier 2 BC before any T2 stuff.
I'm sick and tired of all the bugs and nerfring and balancing with the new ships and weapons and whatnot.
i agree t also give the 'poor guy' a.k.a me to buy new ships 
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Gierling
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Posted - 2005.01.31 22:42:00 -
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Theres also the matter of content...
A frig or cruiser master has an abundance of different things he can do, whereas a tech 2 pilot like a HAC or Inty pilot has a narrower selection but in exchange has traded his time to have an extreme advantage.
Whereas Destroyer, BC, and Battleship training is mostly a dead end where your locked into the existing ships with little ability to "mix it up".
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Admiral Seafort
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Posted - 2005.01.31 23:15:00 -
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There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding the diference between "Tier" and "Tech" especially when it comes to BS.
By Tier you generally mean same Tech level but different general capabilities and roles and also skill prereqs (Raven v Scorp, Mega v Dominix). By Tech you mean different Tech levels, requiring new construction components and many different backup skills to construct and use (Heavy Assault Ships v Cruisers, Interceptors v Frigates).
Right?
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2005.01.31 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: Cadman Weyland on 31/01/2005 23:34:54
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Id love to see a 3rd Non elite option on Battleship per race. Just as id really like to see more than one type of Battle Cruiser and Destroyer per race. Each race can come up with 5 diff Frig types, mulitple Cruisers and 2 BS each, stands to resaon they would have more than one Destroyer and Battle Cruiser platform.
Theres certainly enough non player available ships for them to do this. And ps, id like to see npc/rat Destroyers and BCs as well.
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Elewin
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Posted - 2005.01.31 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Cadman Weyland
Edited by: Cadman Weyland on 31/01/2005 23:34:54
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Id love to see a 3rd Non elite option on Battleship per race. Just as id really like to see more than one type of Battle Cruiser and Destroyer per race. Each race can come up with 5 diff Frig types, mulitple Cruisers and 2 BS each, stands to resaon they would have more than one Destroyer and Battle Cruiser platform.
Theres certainly enough non player available ships for them to do this. And ps, id like to see npc/rat Destroyers and BCs as well.
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Moridan
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Posted - 2005.02.01 00:01:00 -
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But really, what would the third bs options be?
I think battlecruisers should have been made to fit BS weapons and been just smaller battleships instead of borked cruisers.
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Gierling
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Posted - 2005.02.01 00:18:00 -
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I think the third option should be one that does not already exist :)
Like say:
Amarr: Drones
Gallente: Long Range or Missilles
Minmater: EW
Caldari: Short range
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Shimatu
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Posted - 2005.02.01 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Gierling
I think the third option should be one that does not already exist :)
Like say:
Amarr: Drones
Gallente: Long Range or Missilles
Minmater: EW
Caldari: Short range
rright... so first off, you want to take away all racial specialization. ok...
secondly. caldari is not long range at present. missiles arnt long range, hybrids arnt exactly great at long range.
thirdly. why would you want to do this? what would be the point? its like saying 'lets make a caldari ship.... that uses lasers! that'll be good! almost noone will be able to use it effective! r0x0r!'
personally, i would like to see ships that use BS guns, but cruiser armour/speed. (thats what battlecruisers should have been....)
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Kashre
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Posted - 2005.02.01 01:10:00 -
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Edited by: Kashre on 01/02/2005 01:11:16
I think every race should get an EW ship. EW is so integral to fleet combat that Im amazed that the Caldari and Gurista's havent conquered the whole universe, since only they use scorps.
None should be as good as the scorp at EW... Minmatar and amarr can have 6 mids, galente can have 7, and each of them have a bit more firepower than the scorp.
Id pay some duckets for a tier 3 typhoon variant with 6 mids. :)
Not sure what you'd give the caldari for a tier 3 BS though.
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Gierling
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Posted - 2005.02.01 01:15:00 -
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Well every fleet has ships designed to mitigate thier weaknesses.
From a practical perspective it will make the racial differences MORE interesting, whilst still providing an alternative in case something gets borked to the high heavens.
Imagine how much less mad you would have been after the Projectile bork if there were a Minmatar Battleship that was still worth using.
One battleship isn't going to make up for the whole body of ships that emphasise a races core style.
Hell I often see Gallente Navy fleet ships with Railguns on them... do you wish to go tell them that they are ignorant of the fact that Gellente only uses Blasters?
Ultimately it wouldnt change the hybrid-missille-energy-projectile distinction.
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Glarion Garnier
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Posted - 2005.02.01 01:29:00 -
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I would like too see destroyer & BC NPC's . But it seems that current BC design is some what designed to cover all needs in that class. I do agree more variety is good. And if they presented BC npc's to say 0.1 systems .. it would be FUN.
More ppl would go seeking those spawns (more food for pirates) 
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.02.01 04:22:00 -
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Wouldn't a good caldari one be one that uses turrets? Then the caldari guys can try it and see how much better off they are with missiles.
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Gierling
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Posted - 2005.02.01 07:42:00 -
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My longstanding Joke is that the Caldari one should suck, as the intent is to provide an experience not available by the other two :)
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.02.01 07:57:00 -
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Tech 2 ships suck, I'd rather see Tier 3 battleships, tier 4 cruisers and frigates. And just keep adding normal ships till there is a Tier 5 for all of them...
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Andrew Redburn
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Posted - 2005.02.01 09:32:00 -
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I see no real reason nor need for tier 3 BS or tier 5 cruisers.
Where should be the advantage to lv3 ones?
Why should tier 3+ be equally or almsot as good as higher TECH?
Why should all races have all kinds of shipstyles available?
It would make the need of different races obsolete imho.
I look forward to elite BS (Tech II) and Dreadnoughts, there is no real use for better Tech 1 cruiser/BS as with high skill level they are already very good and in overall well balanced.
Btw, if I want to fly a gunship with Caldari, I use my Harpy or Eagle (before Moa). No nead for a gun BS.
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ALTNAME
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Posted - 2005.02.01 09:58:00 -
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Just wait to train an Interceptor. A Dev must have lost his in combat recently, as they are making them even more powerful. Their is so much pandering in this game to them, it is rather funny. Its like we should all play Tie Fighter.
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Gierling
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Posted - 2005.02.01 17:06:00 -
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I didn't say anything about them being as good as elite ships.
Just as good as the other Battleships is fine for me.
It would be nice to have new models, new ships always liven things up.
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Shimatu
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Posted - 2005.02.01 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: ALTNAME
Just wait to train an Interceptor. A Dev must have lost his in combat recently, as they are making them even more powerful. Their is so much pandering in this game to them, it is rather funny. Its like we should all play Tie Fighter.
yeh... your right... increasing PG needs on MWD IIs (you know, the only way for intys to stay alive....) really helps inties doesnt it....
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.02.01 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Gierling
It would be nice to have new models, new ships always liven things up.
If at least every ship in the game was usable there would be a lot more diversity, but since some ships are so clearly better then others only very few of them acctually end up on the battlefield.
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Berneh
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Posted - 2005.02.01 20:36:00 -
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WHY DONT THEY JUST GIVE US A GALLENTE BATTLESHIP THATS ACTUALLY ANY ******* GOOD !!!
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