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WhisperCrystall
Unseen Academy The Unseen Company
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Posted - 2012.08.25 10:07:00 -
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Actually the only good thing about this game is the customization and skill system, everything else is so bad it's hard to talk about it, i know it's beta but still the game is so broken and overall bad it should be called alpha.
I think if it wasn't for EVE players who will buy ps3, Sony would never give money for exclusive.
Gameplay is broken
Framerate issues are often
Graphics looks like halo 2 or 1, even worse i think
Honestly i doubt anybody will play this game, aside from EVE players
sry for my english :) |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
968
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Posted - 2012.08.26 00:06:00 -
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WhisperCrystall wrote:Actually the only good thing about this game is the customization and skill system, everything else is so bad it's hard to talk about it, i know it's beta but still the game is so broken and overall bad it should be called alpha.
I think if it wasn't for EVE players who will buy ps3, Sony would never give money for exclusive.
Gameplay is broken
Framerate issues are often
Graphics looks like halo 2 or 1, even worse i think
A bit unfair to be bitching about it here since you cant talk about it at all. And because of that point, just saying "Gameplay is broken" doesn't give anyone anything to go on.
I say you think you got killed in a cheap manner and are blaming the game and not your awful skills.
dusthalo1 trollolo |
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
664
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Posted - 2012.08.26 02:41:00 -
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awe man I miss halo 1, one of the best shooters.. ever. OP is just a moron who sucks at using a controller and needs to have baby mouse and keyboard.
also I am 100% positive more people will play Dust then eve if marketed well. it's a beta so frame rates will be meh graphics are good tbh. |
Darthh Miner
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.27 09:28:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:WhisperCrystall wrote:Actually the only good thing about this game is the customization and skill system, everything else is so bad it's hard to talk about it, i know it's beta but still the game is so broken and overall bad it should be called alpha.
I think if it wasn't for EVE players who will buy ps3, Sony would never give money for exclusive.
Gameplay is broken
Framerate issues are often
Graphics looks like halo 2 or 1, even worse i think
A bit unfair to be bitching about it here since you cant talk about it at all. And because of that point, just saying "Gameplay is broken" doesn't give anyone anything to go on. I say you think you got killed in a cheap manner and are blaming the game and not your awful skills. dusthalo1trollolo
haha ye best excuse of fanboys is that if someone dont like dust he must sux, fact is that u are blinded fanboy and i played shooters on consoles before u knew what gamepad is. I played like 20 matches and was top 3 every time, and its the worst shooter i played on PS3 so far.
"graphics are good tbh"
boy are u playing on 15' CRT TV ? and dont see diffrence between games ?
this is the worst looking game on ps3 |
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
665
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Posted - 2012.08.27 15:43:00 -
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sure you did, the graphics are superior to MAG in every way. they are also on par with most 360 shooters. it's also a beta that isn't completely done durp. I play on a 47inch 1080p tv, I can usually see the difference quite well.
I know you think you know what the majority of people want, but you already proved your wrong by saying "gameplay is broken" which it isn't |
Karl Planck
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
223
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Posted - 2012.08.27 17:08:00 -
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lol, i was unsure how this would be recieved on a broad scale. However, a while back i got a friend to play eve, that stuck for about 1.5 months. This wasn't too suprising considering he was never much of a mmo fan.
Now fps's, he is a HUGE fps fan. Last week he was asking me if I planned on DL'ing cs go, and I said i would think about it. He had been reading about upcoming shooters and asked if i knew anything about dust. I said i had been playing the beta a bit and despite its beta form showed a lot of promise.
To my suprise i got a text the next morning "OMG i have been playing dust all night, this game is AWESOME"
He hasn't brought up cs even though it has been released, playing dust as his fps of choice exclusively (even though in beta).
Of course this isn't definitive evidence of how this will be received, but i like where things are headed. Low-sec Best-sec |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
977
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Posted - 2012.08.27 17:11:00 -
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Someone being mad because they cant enjoy anything due to crippling "fronting" disease. |
Khan Uitra
Adamas Anima Eon.Apocalypse
0
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Posted - 2012.08.29 09:32:00 -
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I love this game, I think it looks good...
I enjoy playing the game, and isn't that what playing a game is about... enjoy it? |
Kithrus
Deus Fides Empire Curatores Veritatis Alliance
223
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Posted - 2012.08.29 14:54:00 -
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Darthh Miner wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:WhisperCrystall wrote:Actually the only good thing about this game is the customization and skill system, everything else is so bad it's hard to talk about it, i know it's beta but still the game is so broken and overall bad it should be called alpha.
I think if it wasn't for EVE players who will buy ps3, Sony would never give money for exclusive.
Gameplay is broken
Framerate issues are often
Graphics looks like halo 2 or 1, even worse i think
A bit unfair to be bitching about it here since you cant talk about it at all. And because of that point, just saying "Gameplay is broken" doesn't give anyone anything to go on. I say you think you got killed in a cheap manner and are blaming the game and not your awful skills. haha ye best excuse of fanboys is that if someone dont like dust he must sux, fact is that u are blinded fanboy and i played shooters on consoles before u knew what gamepad is. I played like 20 matches and was top 3 every time, and its the worst shooter i played on PS3 so far. "graphics are good tbh" boy are u playing on 15' CRT TV ? and dont see diffrence between games ? this is the worst looking game on ps3
Self set expectations much? |
Lister
Galactic Shipyards Inc
10
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Posted - 2012.09.01 20:24:00 -
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I have only ever played mmos - but I got the merc pack for this (just before the keys were made available to all eve subscribers) and I have to say its such great fun. Of course I suck - but now there is mouse and KB support I can actually play it.
The Dust corp I am in has pretty much zero Eve players , and the wierd thing is most of them are now getting Eve - the hook up is definatly working, and much to my surprise it is working both ways.
Its not just Eve guys getting Dust, it will certainly bring consol players to Eve. .. Now if CCP could get Eve onto the ps3 that would be truely amazing. |
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
26
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Posted - 2012.09.02 14:02:00 -
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Darthh Miner wrote: i played shooters on consoles before u knew what gamepad is.
And that qualifies you how ??
Ive been playing on consoles since the Atari 2600. It had a gamepad btw .... just so you know.
I've been playing computer games since the ZX-80 came out. You also had to program it yourself to do so.
I say your full of 'brown stuff' and your arguments are without merit or veracity. |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
339
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Posted - 2012.09.03 16:08:00 -
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I just don't find the game fun or compelling, which is what games are supposed to be.
I've played tony hawks pro skater hd more than this, in between bouts of bf3, which is waining my interest now that I've also got everything I've wanted to get out if it.
Guess itll be back to tf2 soon, to see if I can clock 3,000 hours before Xmas.
Sorry, it's really not a very fun or interesting game - as for the graphics, well, the ps3 is o-k, but other studios (usin the same engine) are producing better titles, and don't give me the "beta" argument, because you can't tell me they are going to redraw all of the textures and re-skin everything prior to launch, what we see now is pretty much it afaict.
But the clothes don't make the man, and hope that they fix the entire game mechanics prior to launch, so our eve subscription money hasn't been wasted.
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |
Optimo Sebiestor
The Society Calyxes
1
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Posted - 2012.09.10 22:50:00 -
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I had my brother (the biggest fps fan i know of) get ahold of a beta key. Now he can't stop playing. He tells me that even in Beta, this game is all he missed with other fps games. Guess i got my self a slave |
Trazyn Infinite
Teuncorp Sanctuary Pact
0
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:49:00 -
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the appeal does wear off. The biggest problem i am seeing is balancing issues. a lot of the "classes" (see skills) are worthless. they have no point other than to take points.
Tanks are top dog right now and nothing can be done about it. sure they cost 2 million but that is just a drop in the bucket to people who pump the points just to call it once and walk all over the enemy without any issues. |
Staleward Ad'mraa
Knights In the Round Table JINN.
2
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Posted - 2012.09.11 07:20:00 -
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Lister wrote:I have only ever played mmos - but I got the merc pack for this (just before the keys were made available to all eve subscribers) and I have to say its such great fun. Of course I suck - but now there is mouse and KB support I can actually play it.
The Dust corp I am in has pretty much zero Eve players , and the wierd thing is most of them are now getting Eve - the hook up is definatly working, and much to my surprise it is working both ways.
Its not just Eve guys getting Dust, it will certainly bring consol players to Eve. .. Now if CCP could get Eve onto the ps3 that would be truely amazing.
I rather have EVE Online on xbox 360, atleast I can hook my mouse and keyboard to the 360 which allows that. Not only this the microphones are great and the xbox live actually has a player list you can play with, showing who's on and who isn't. |
Evelyn Meiyi
Meiyi Family Holdings
42
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Posted - 2012.09.13 03:15:00 -
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Staleward Ad'mraa wrote: I rather have EVE Online on xbox 360, atleast I can hook my mouse and keyboard to the 360 which allows that. Not only this the microphones are great and the xbox live actually has a player list you can play with, showing who's on and who isn't.
PS3 allows a keyboard hookup. I use it a lot with NetFlix. Not sure about mouse, though. |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
847
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Posted - 2012.09.13 14:13:00 -
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Not everyone is going to like all games.
Clearly some people are loving it and some are meh about it.
I can list all games ever created to which that applies. If you don't like Dust, there's another 50 that could. So get over your opinions inflated sense of importance and learn to use your critical mind for more than just stroking how important your viewpoint must be. Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Trazyn Infinite
Teuncorp Sanctuary Pact
0
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Posted - 2012.09.13 21:28:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:Not everyone is going to like all games.
Clearly some people are loving it and some are meh about it.
I can list all games ever created to which that applies. If you don't like Dust, there's another 50 that could. So get over your opinions inflated sense of importance and learn to use your critical mind for more than just stroking how important your viewpoint must be.
that same logic is used by TOR fans. I heard that game is going so well it went free to play within a year. just because some people like it doesn't mean the majority don't like it.
Right now there are a ton of problems. Hopefully they will be ironed out but as it stands right now this game will not stand a chance. especially with Planetside 2 comming out. |
Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
149
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Posted - 2012.09.14 05:50:00 -
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Staleward Ad'mraa wrote:Lister wrote:I have only ever played mmos - but I got the merc pack for this (just before the keys were made available to all eve subscribers) and I have to say its such great fun. Of course I suck - but now there is mouse and KB support I can actually play it.
The Dust corp I am in has pretty much zero Eve players , and the wierd thing is most of them are now getting Eve - the hook up is definatly working, and much to my surprise it is working both ways.
Its not just Eve guys getting Dust, it will certainly bring consol players to Eve. .. Now if CCP could get Eve onto the ps3 that would be truely amazing. I rather have EVE Online on xbox 360, atleast I can hook my mouse and keyboard to the 360 which allows that. Not only this the microphones are great and the xbox live actually has a player list you can play with, showing who's on and who isn't.
H-have you touched a PS3? You can literally do all of that you just said. I will gladly admit not as many people use mics on PS3 as they do on 360 for some odd reason, but with PS3 you literally get a damn near infinite amount of choices thanks to the ability to use bluetooth headsets as well as usb headsets. Hell, half my old ps3 clan was using 3-4 year old bluetooth or usb headsets and they sounded perfect. |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.09.14 09:27:00 -
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Graphics are not complete. This is a Beta To keep downloads small, graphics are kept low. Same with sounds This stops "$^$"-ú^&*&$%)(* HUGE downloads and patches - Nulla Curas |
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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
345
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Posted - 2012.09.14 20:00:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Graphics are not complete. This is a Beta To keep downloads small, graphics are kept low. Same with sounds This stops "$^$"-ú^&*&$%)(* HUGE downloads and patches
Citation needed.
Or, I got your quote for future reference.
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |
Ayn Randy
Dark Falcon Operations
17
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Posted - 2012.09.17 10:58:00 -
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Considering DUST is from the same creators of EVE, one of the most visually awesome games out there on any platform, I highly doubt they are going to release a game to the public that isnt at least close to spectacular graphics. |
Jonah Gravenstein
1299
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Posted - 2012.09.17 11:10:00 -
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ITT Darthh Miner doesn't realise that the average Eve player cut their teeth on consoles about the same time that Star Wars A New Hope was released and were writing their own games on Z80 processors before the majority of console gamers were a twinkle in their fathers eye. My brother has the beta, we've both had a go and while FPS's on a console aren't my style, I game exclusively on a pc, I found it to be pretty good. CCP can't patch stupid. |
Nick Rich
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:53:00 -
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I totally agree with WhisperCrystall. Graphics terrible, terrible physics, delays are strong, a lot of things you can write but probably will not repeat. Dust514 like just for the fact that he is in the world EVE Online, fun run, shoot, die. But after half an hour it's dying because of the poor graphics, due to delays in communication, when you shoot at the player. and you're already dead, and after a second it can be seen that it is certainly something to take away from the shield or armor. 3 days I'm just getting used to the fact that the form of the eye is very pronounced forward. Because of this, I clung all the walls and corners, confusion over where You're in. Full discomfort. At least a third-person needed. I'm sorry for my English |
Trazyn Infinite
Teuncorp Sanctuary Pact
0
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Posted - 2012.09.20 18:58:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Graphics are not complete. This is a Beta To keep downloads small, graphics are kept low. Same with sounds This stops "$^$"-ú^&*&$%)(* HUGE downloads and patches
have you seen the battlefield alpha. you should probably google that or youtube it.
by your logic it should of improved. not saying that CCP will do the same but still. food for thought. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1131
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Posted - 2012.09.20 21:03:00 -
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Darthh Miner wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:WhisperCrystall wrote:Actually the only good thing about this game is the customization and skill system, everything else is so bad it's hard to talk about it, i know it's beta but still the game is so broken and overall bad it should be called alpha.
I think if it wasn't for EVE players who will buy ps3, Sony would never give money for exclusive.
Gameplay is broken
Framerate issues are often
Graphics looks like halo 2 or 1, even worse i think
A bit unfair to be bitching about it here since you cant talk about it at all. And because of that point, just saying "Gameplay is broken" doesn't give anyone anything to go on. I say you think you got killed in a cheap manner and are blaming the game and not your awful skills. dusthalo1trollolo haha ye best excuse of fanboys is that if someone dont like dust he must sux, fact is that u are blinded fanboy and i played shooters on consoles before u knew what gamepad is. I played like 20 matches and was top 3 every time, and its the worst shooter i played on PS3 so far. "graphics are good tbh" boy are u playing on 15' CRT TV ? and dont see diffrence between games ? this is the worst looking game on ps3
Are you blind?
Warhawk, one of the biggest most popular PS3 games with an average score of 9/10 http://www.futuregamez.net/ps3games/warhawk/warhawk3.jpg
Dust 514, a new game not even out of beta with placeholder graphics. http://dust.ccpgamescdn.com/Dust514/media/news.control/28075/1/DUST514_GP_Screen03_940.jpg
Like seriously?
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
Hunter Seaker
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.23 20:21:00 -
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I like MotherMoon's compairison and to be honest those pictures and the fact that Dust is still beta says a lot.
Haters gonna hate, trolls gonna troll. Fact of the matter is that this is an exciting idea and imo well executed creation by CCP. I am looking forward to the finished product! I do have to say, for something being FREE to play, why hate and not just enjoy what your given?
P.S. Warhawk is still an awesome game ;) |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
346
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Posted - 2012.09.24 13:51:00 -
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Hunter Seaker wrote: I do have to say, for something being FREE to play, why hate and not just enjoy what your given?
Perhaps, because we want more and are/were willing to pay for it.
DUST is just dull, uninspiring and frankly boring to play, but I guess you get what you pay for.
Finger crossed the reviewers go kindly on this game and that it doesn't ruin the finances of CCP, because if it did, there would not be a new eden anymore.
God knows how much money has been spent on its development and subsequent administrative costs.
I hope it was worth it - not from a gamin-enjoyment-level, but from raw $ that can be put into EVE, which is the only thing that is important.
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2786
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Posted - 2012.09.29 21:38:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Graphics are not complete. This is a Beta To keep downloads small, graphics are kept low. Same with sounds This stops "$^$"-ú^&*&$%)(* HUGE downloads and patches Citation needed. Or, I got your quote for future reference. AK You would have to be a complete moron to think the graphics as they are now are in their final form. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
359
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Posted - 2012.09.30 09:19:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:AlleyKat wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Graphics are not complete. This is a Beta To keep downloads small, graphics are kept low. Same with sounds This stops "$^$"-ú^&*&$%)(* HUGE downloads and patches Citation needed. Or, I got your quote for future reference. AK You would have to be a complete moron to think the graphics as they are now are in their final form.
It would also be moronic to post something as fact, without citation to back up your claims. Equally it would be moronic of me to call someone a liar without having all of the information.
So, I took the high road and humbly stand waiting for the truth to present itself.
Any other comments at this time? Or were you just passing through on your journey to the low road?
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |
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Hirimatsu Yamamoto
Bunnie Slayers Redrum Fleet
5
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:21:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:Darthh Miner wrote: i played shooters on consoles before u knew what gamepad is.
And that qualifies you how ?? Ive been playing on consoles since the Atari 2600. It had a gamepad btw .... just so you know. I've been playing computer games since the ZX-80 came out. You also had to program it yourself to do so. I say your full of 'brown stuff' and your arguments are without merit or veracity.
Mmmm.... Trash 80 ^_^ |
Lateris
Posiden Industrial
14
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Posted - 2012.10.11 20:36:00 -
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I have changed my mind on Dust 514. As a PC gamer I am protesting the fact that this game is only for the PS3 and will not play it. The PC is an open source platform and we should not be disrespected any longer as consumers and citizens of New Eden. I would rather play a proper shooter like BF3 then this PS3 exclusive. / |
Cypreion
Robux Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.10.16 17:06:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:Darthh Miner wrote: i played shooters on consoles before u knew what gamepad is.
And that qualifies you how ?? Ive been playing on consoles since the Atari 2600. It had a gamepad btw .... just so you know. I've been playing computer games since the ZX-80 came out. You also had to program it yourself to do so. I say your full of 'brown stuff' and your arguments are without merit or veracity.
I've been playing on consoles since the IBM 704. It also had a gamepad, but it was a card puncher.
When I was your age I also had to walk 3 miles barefoot to school in the snow carrying a tuba. |
Wanderinlost
Task Force MK7
0
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Posted - 2012.10.17 01:26:00 -
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I wont be playing dust514 until or if it ever comes to PC.
One thing I am pretty sure of is that dust will be around for a while and if it continues to be developed long after launch like eve then there is no telling what it could be in 5 or 10 years from now and how much the scope of the game increases or changes.
Look at eve today compared to it when it launched. Look at every other MMO on the market 5+ years, they do not age as well.
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Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:40:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:awe man I miss halo 1, one of the best shooters.. ever. OP is just a moron who sucks at using a controller and needs to have baby mouse and keyboard.
also I am 100% positive more people will play Dust then eve if marketed well. it's a beta so frame rates will be meh graphics are good tbh.
Something with graphics like Halo??
GIMMEGIMMEGIMME!!! I am 12 and what is this?? |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:45:00 -
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Cypreion wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:Darthh Miner wrote: i played shooters on consoles before u knew what gamepad is.
And that qualifies you how ?? Ive been playing on consoles since the Atari 2600. It had a gamepad btw .... just so you know. I've been playing computer games since the ZX-80 came out. You also had to program it yourself to do so. I say your full of 'brown stuff' and your arguments are without merit or veracity. I've been playing on consoles since the IBM 704. It also had a gamepad, but it was a card puncher. When I was your age I also had to walk 3 miles barefoot to school in the snow carrying a tuba.
ALTAIR FTW!!!! I am 12 and what is this?? |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security Devlin Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.10.29 13:55:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:ITT Darthh Miner doesn't realise that the average Eve player cut their teeth on consoles about the same time that Star Wars A New Hope was released and were writing their own games on Z80 processors before the majority of console gamers were a twinkle in their fathers eye. My brother has the beta, we've both had a go and while FPS's on a console aren't my style, I game exclusively on a pc, I found it to be pretty good.
Agreed. You can tell a true gamer not by what console or operating system he prefers, but by which one he's willing to switch to for an awesome gaming experience.
What's happened to the gaming community these days? It's just whinge about this and complain about that - but I guess if you're not hating on a game these days you're either a "fanboy" or a "console gamer" instead of a 'L337 *****" PC gamer.
Kids these games have no concept of what makes a game good - the only concept they can grasp is what they can demand. I am 12 and what is this?? |
Jame Jarl Retief
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
297
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Posted - 2012.10.30 18:50:00 -
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As much as I'd like Dust to survive, I worry about it same as OP. His comparison between Dust and Halo is obviously way off, but when you compare Dust to BF3 for example (which is already more than a year old), it's not that great. I don't just mean polygons and textures, I mean the overall amount of detail, terrain complexity, lack of vegetation, iffy shadows, jerky animations, etc. Sure it's still beta, but how much better can you expect it to get in the next few months?
Second obvious flaw is PS3 exclusive. It's pretty simple, really. Not many people have a PS3. Out of those who do have it, many hate it. I know someone who owns one, and last I heard he was really mad because the latest Skyrim DLC wasn't working. That's over a month since XBox players got it, and a week after PC players got it. Plus the whole security scandal a while ago, and their new TOS as a result. Etc., etc. It's a big can of worms.
Third issue, for me at least, is the "hook". What is the hook for this game? F2P? Not good enough. Granted games like Team Fortress 2 or Battlefield Heroes are doing well in F2P, but those games are hilariously fun. Dust just takes itself far too seriously. And while doing that, falls well short of serious games like BF3 in quality and complexity of the experience. And BF3s hook was realism and destruction of the environment, concealment and advanced ballistics, abundance of ground and air vehicles and scores of heavily modifiable weapons.The only real hook for this game is the link to EVE. And how many PS3 players play EVE? Who knows. But what I do know is, they ain't playing EVE on their PS3.
Bottom line, the vibe I get from this game is the same vibe I got from Mortal Online. In that game, devs were told, many months prior to release, that unless they stopped with the nonsense the game would flop. They didn't stop, in fact they proudly announced that they were making the game for themselves and people like themselves, and everyone else was pretty much welcome to gtfo. Guess what? It flopped. Hard. A few years later they were still in the red with whopping 2k subscribers. This is what happens when you make a game without a clear player base for it. The sad part is, the game had tons of potential. So does Dust. I just hope CCP know what they're doing. |
Cambion Andedare
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.11.07 08:11:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:Darthh Miner wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:WhisperCrystall wrote:Actually the only good thing about this game is the customization and skill system, everything else is so bad it's hard to talk about it, i know it's beta but still the game is so broken and overall bad it should be called alpha.
I think if it wasn't for EVE players who will buy ps3, Sony would never give money for exclusive.
Gameplay is broken
Framerate issues are often
Graphics looks like halo 2 or 1, even worse i think
A bit unfair to be bitching about it here since you cant talk about it at all. And because of that point, just saying "Gameplay is broken" doesn't give anyone anything to go on. I say you think you got killed in a cheap manner and are blaming the game and not your awful skills. dusthalo1trollolo haha ye best excuse of fanboys is that if someone dont like dust he must sux, fact is that u are blinded fanboy and i played shooters on consoles before u knew what gamepad is. I played like 20 matches and was top 3 every time, and its the worst shooter i played on PS3 so far. "graphics are good tbh" boy are u playing on 15' CRT TV ? and dont see diffrence between games ? this is the worst looking game on ps3 Are you blind? Warhawk, one of the biggest most popular PS3 games with an average score of 9/10 http://www.futuregamez.net/ps3games/warhawk/warhawk3.jpgDust 514, a new game not even out of beta with placeholder graphics. http://dust.ccpgamescdn.com/Dust514/media/news.control/28075/1/DUST514_GP_Screen03_940.jpgLike seriously? What? Are you comparing a promotional render to an ingame screenshot to prove dust 514 is having good graphics?
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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.11.07 16:45:00 -
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Cambion Andedare wrote:What? Are you comparing a promotional render to an ingame screenshot to prove dust 514 is having good graphics?
How about you show me a comparison of ingame screenshots, and then we'll talk
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Lipbite
Express Hauler
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Posted - 2012.11.07 23:22:00 -
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Well, to make you less bitter - there is Planetside 2 release in just 12 days (hint: game is so good I've played it whole weekend despite I don't like FPS) |
DarkJacena
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.11.08 22:23:00 -
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Playing games like Battlefield 3, Planetside 2 and Halo 4, I can guarantee that unless CCP completely overhauls the entire graphics engine (they won't lol) what you see today is what you'll get ~ Which is very much 1st-Gen PS3 quality. Unless CCP throws many millions more into the game (like other giants like EA and Microsoft have done) then it's all about gameplay, the outdated graphics will be the glaring drawback of the final release.
For those saying "it's just Beta, textures are low to keep down DL sizes" ~ There's been no game out there that went from beta to retail version with *significant* graphical upgrades. It will take immense changes, more than just texture resolution increases and layers of polish. I think this thread should talk about other issues like frame rates, other lag and gameplay related flaws, those of which IMO will have a bigger impact on the life of the game. |
Cambion Andedare
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.09 07:26:00 -
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DarkJacena wrote: For those saying "it's just Beta, textures are low to keep down DL sizes" ~ There's been no game out there that went from beta to retail version with *significant* graphical upgrades. It
Indeed, because that would kinda defeat the point of having a public beta avaible. On occasion i was having the feeling that i was playing a playstation 2 game...
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Craterius
Symple Onez
9
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Posted - 2012.11.10 00:20:00 -
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I have been playing EvE for more than four years. I enjoy the game very much. I have had as many as three active accounts, but now have just one.
What I enjoy is the sandbox. On any day I, with or without my friends, can do about what we want - it is a truly amazing computer program.
I have never liked nor played fps games, in over 40 years of gaming. I do not like the genre, so will not like playing Dust, so will not play Dust.
It is very difficult to create a new game, that is successful. Every year there must be 25, or 50, new games, for each game that sticks.
That is why it is very risky, even odd, for CCP to try to meld EvE, a unique and successful sandbox game, with the fps type of game. My children have played WoW, and owned the Sony PlayStation, and others. I have no interest in playing fps games with my children.
We know CCP has put tremendous resources into the development of Dust. All of these were taken away from their successful Eve game. In fact, CCP nearly blew up the company last year, and even had to fire about 10% of their employees to keep above water.
Since I will not play Dust, no matter how great an fps it is (and, it may not be so great, based on a survey of opinions on these forums), the resources spent there have been lost to me. Nevertheless, I am still expected to pay my monthly subscription fee. I have not heard any talk of reducing the subscription fee for those of us who will not play Dust. I hope EvE, the sandbox, is not messed up. I would regret very much having to move on.
To those of you who enjoy fps games, more power to you. But, please do not be so patronizing as to tell me and others like me that we are deficient game players because we do not join you in them. |
Adamonus
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.11.10 04:57:00 -
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I am very sorry to say this, but the thread opener is absolutely right:
- it looks bad - the animations are poor (omg!) - the effect feedback is poor - the terrain looks absolutely not interesting and has no features (destructions, explosions, cool stratetic places, hides, using terrain for hide etc) - big manko: not for pc -> means it won't reach eve fan-players who would feel mercy with the dust project and play it. Expecting eve fans to buy a ps3 just for a dust in that quality means as well believing in Santa Claus will fix it somehow
I just hope that if the "expected" or better: "calculated" playerbase-number for dust 514 -Project on PS3 is not reached (which actually will be the case, no need to be a clairvoyant to see this), it won't affect eve developers to be be fired as a result of "housemade" financial troubles of the company...as seen so often.
all the best |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.11.10 08:53:00 -
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Craterius wrote:I have been playing EvE for more than four years. I enjoy the game very much. I have had as many as three active accounts, but now have just one.
What I enjoy is the sandbox. On any day I, with or without my friends, can do about what we want - it is a truly amazing computer program.
I have never liked nor played fps games, in over 40 years of gaming. I do not like the genre, so will not like playing Dust, so will not play Dust.
It is very difficult to create a new game, that is successful. Every year there must be 25, or 50, new games, for each game that sticks.
That is why it is very risky, even odd, for CCP to try to meld EvE, a unique and successful sandbox game, with the fps type of game. My children have played WoW, and owned the Sony PlayStation, and others. I have no interest in playing fps games with my children.
We know CCP has put tremendous resources into the development of Dust. All of these were taken away from their successful Eve game. In fact, CCP nearly blew up the company last year, and even had to fire about 10% of their employees to keep above water.
Since I will not play Dust, no matter how great an fps it is (and, it may not be so great, based on a survey of opinions on these forums), the resources spent there have been lost to me. Nevertheless, I am still expected to pay my monthly subscription fee. I have not heard any talk of reducing the subscription fee for those of us who will not play Dust. I hope EvE, the sandbox, is not messed up. I would regret very much having to move on.
To those of you who enjoy fps games, more power to you. But, please do not be so patronizing as to tell me and others like me that we are deficient game players because we do not join you in them.
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Craterius
Symple Onez
9
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Posted - 2012.11.12 03:26:00 -
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"What would you say to an employer who fired you from your job because you weren't spending your paycheck in the ways that he thought you should?"
Whatever are you talking about? |
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