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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.02.01 05:39:00 -
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Wow didn't see this one comeing, well maybe I did but...
As a serious question, can we expect an official resonce from JQA? While, some higher ups have posted, it has been under thinly vieled smack talk. I fail to see any memeber addressing the actual issue of what happened, and what the next steps are.
What is to happen to the corps/pilots in question? What explaination do you have for allience members openly 'pirateing' in others space. An allience that claims to be anti pirate should at least address the fact that some of thier members are pirating. Or are you now, as an allience, declaring 3FA enemys to be engaged at any given time. Insteed I have only seen posts, that fail to address the incidence, rather are flames towards a one time allie, who did as much to protect your space as you did only a week ago.
While I understand the tension that many of the JQA must be under, it should be reasonable to expect some sort of responce to this incident. Again, posting about how well you pwned that BS isn't a responce and only shows hostilitys towards the pilots of the 3FA.
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One Percent
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Posted - 2005.02.01 05:55:00 -
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I did not think I would ever manage to lose respect for an alliance on a daily basis, but JQA has proven me wrong.
You guys should leave the pirating to the professionals. 
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Sir Altsalot
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Posted - 2005.02.01 06:08:00 -
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JQA and 3rd front listen to this and think.
Without each other, you will cease to exist.
you should work it out or think of the future in some place other than Syndicate. |

Dark Big
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Posted - 2005.02.01 07:34:00 -
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!!!!!!!!! i never did think i would ever see the day. 3fa fighting jqa.
and as for you jqa. i seen you nap up for a day with dna to attack or stations and stuff.
so jqa.. lay of 3fa. thay did nothing defferent then what you have dun befor.
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Candy
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Posted - 2005.02.01 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Big !!!!!!!!! i never did think i would ever see the day. 3fa fighting jqa.
and as for you jqa. i seen you nap up for a day with dna to attack or stations and stuff.
so jqa.. lay of 3fa. thay did nothing defferent then what you have dun befor.
Is it just me or does this post rhyme? -------------------------------------------
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Magnifico
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Posted - 2005.02.01 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Magnifico on 01/02/2005 09:27:59
I have recently left 3FA, and therefore my Corp due to the NAP with supremacy being too much for me to swallow. But the recent actions of JQA really sadden me, It seems to me you JQA folk may need to control your pilots better.
At the very least you should be making steps to reimberse 3FA for the losses brought about by a few 'rouge' pilots....If you class them as rouges that is?
I suppose your actions here on in will decide that

Riv
Btw posting as my alt but this is Rivelin.
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Wicke
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Posted - 2005.02.01 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Big !!!!!!!!! i never did think i would ever see the day. 3fa fighting jqa.
and as for you jqa. i seen you nap up for a day with dna to attack or stations and stuff.
so jqa.. lay of 3fa. thay did nothing defferent then what you have dun befor.
3FA was there too. Sig Broken but its uber. -.- |

Sabadagus
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Posted - 2005.02.01 09:39:00 -
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Unfortunately, to many idiots in JQA and they seem to be coming out of the woodworks by the score theese days.
I appologize for our idiots and theyre actions.
Coming out a head is not easy having teammates that "drop the ball" constantly. It doesnt change the end results though. Surpremacy will be booted out of JQA. And our idiots will probably migrate to DNA as they all do eventually.
Sab
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tastinn
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Posted - 2005.02.01 10:02:00 -
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I'm an ex 3FA pilot.
I dont like JQA except that i have friends there... (2) I almost lost a armageddon in fleetbattle from friendly fire from JQA.... I was podded 10 hours after leaving 3rd front in M2 by a JQA pilot who shot me down while i did nothing in return...
JQA are trigger happy or atleast some of them... Mockingbird is my friend or at least i think so he tried to tell the JQA pilot in M2 to stop fireing at me but the pilot didn't listen.... When i posted on JQA forums about this they made it seem like me being shot down by JQA was my fault...
JQA should apologize to 3FA officals and repay insurance and fittings... thats the least that they could do

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LaWL
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Posted - 2005.02.01 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sabadagus Unfortunately, to many idiots in JQA and they seem to be coming out of the woodworks by the score theese days.
I appologize for our idiots and theyre actions.
Coming out a head is not easy having teammates that "drop the ball" constantly. It doesnt change the end results though. Surpremacy will be booted out of JQA. And our idiots will probably migrate to DNA as they all do eventually.
Sab
First JQA member to post some sense in this thread.
well done sir.
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Nilkarus
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Posted - 2005.02.01 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Sabadagus Unfortunately, to many idiots in JQA and they seem to be coming out of the woodworks by the score theese days.
I appologize for our idiots and theyre actions.
Coming out a head is not easy having teammates that "drop the ball" constantly. It doesnt change the end results though. Surpremacy will be booted out of JQA. And our idiots will probably migrate to DNA as they all do eventually.
Sab
We won't accept idiots. Sure, they get in on a trial basis now and then, but if it's apparent they are total morons, and aren't capable of following orders and being part of a team then they'll be kicked like others before them... I try and give people the benefit of the doubt when hiring them, but I don't think many JQA will be even considered after recent events.
Just to clarify, people like Thryr, One Percent, and Panzer aren't 'idiots' by far. They're very capable pilots, and nice people to play the game with. And yes, Mockingbird was in D.N.A for a whole half day... And will not be returning to us again.
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Bala Dwinn
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Posted - 2005.02.01 16:53:00 -
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Anyone else feel that certain outside powers have manipulated things in a classic divide and conquer strategy?
Anyways, I know nothing of the internal workings up there so I'll just stfu. 
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Clipped Wings
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Posted - 2005.02.01 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Bala Dwinn Anyone else feel that certain outside powers have manipulated things in a classic divide and conquer strategy?
You are of course entitled to your opinion. However, I would like to state that besides attacking us, and thus forcing things in to a corner, Supremacy have not influenced 3rd Front Alliance's decision, neither as in our choice to set JQA to neutral standings, nor in this incident. Barring the fact that they offered a cease of hostilities, which we ended up accepting, the rumorsmiths have been working overtime to try and dig up dirt - and come away empty handed.
There is a plethora of accusations towards 3rd Front Alliance, which is hardly surprising, all things considered.
However, for future reference, I would prefer that inquiring parties contact us, instead of us learning of speculation via third parties. We are approachable, after all. :)
Originally by: Bala Dwinn
Anyways, I know nothing of the internal workings up there so I'll just stfu. 
Hey, you're welcome to ask if you're wondering. 3rd Front Alliance are neither child-eaters nor pirates. ;)
-Clipped Wings of LFC
"I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man."
~William Hazlitt
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Carnicx 1
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Posted - 2005.02.01 18:22:00 -
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As the pilot getting podded I will make a short statement:
First of all: Yes, I felt like a total rookie sitting there scrambled with no means of fighting short range while the Crow and the Malediction ate through my hull. Well, it happened. It wonÆt be the first, nor the last bs I loose and I already replaced it. The irony is, the mega was the first replacement after loosing all my bsÆs trying to defend JQA space over the last couple of weeks.
In my opinion this was an incident brought by a few rouge pilots. I have the highest respect for the majority of JQA pilots and I do not see this as an action symbolic to all of JQA. Unfortunately the response from the JQA high command showed they condoned this action and that saddens me since I believe the major part of JQAÆs pilots do not.
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Val Amon
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Posted - 2005.02.01 18:57:00 -
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In my opinion we should give 3rd Front mining passes to all the belts that have cans that say "Only this corp can Mine here" in Supremacy/BOS/Re1gn space in lower syndicate. _ _ How many pilots does it take to wire a Flux Capacitor? 3, 1 to wire it and 2 to talk about how the old one was better. |

Beringe
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:02:00 -
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This is all very unfortunate. And, sadly, out of my hands to do much of anything about it (as some of you may know, I'm on extended planet leave for a while).
------------------------------------------- "My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
"No, it's none of your business." |

DeviLee
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Bala Dwinn Anyone else feel that certain outside powers have manipulated things in a classic divide and conquer strategy?
Anyways, I know nothing of the internal workings up there so I'll just stfu. 
In my oppinion all we did is we gave it a little push. You can't judge things while in a state of prosperity it's the difficult times that show what a corp/alliance is realy made of. Sure some people might have lost a few ships and isk but I bet that in a month you will be thanking us as you will notice an increased quality in gameplay when you will be doing things you've never done or were doing them differently than now.
My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp. |

Monkiboy
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Val Amon In my opinion we should give 3rd Front mining passes to all the belts that have cans that say "Only this corp can Mine here" in Supremacy/BOS/Re1gn space in lower syndicate.
Completely agree Val, and we'll talk to clipped about arranging it, when the time is right for them.
Ill be in touch with more info soon via the usual means.
Monkiboy Supremacy Communications Director
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JackDonkey
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Val Amon In my opinion we should give 3rd Front mining passes to all the belts that have cans that say "Only this corp can Mine here" in Supremacy/BOS/Re1gn space in lower syndicate.
What are you smoking do have any idea how many cans we got to haul last night and did not have to do any cearbearing aside from undocking in an indy.
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Monkiboy
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Monkiboy on 01/02/2005 19:18:26 I'd openly encourage the corps that remain in JQA, to consider our offers made. If you have received no such offer, contact myself, the enslaver, maasu or tholarim in game and discuss terms for peaceful resolution. This isnt just at corp level, but also at personal level. The need for confidentially is understood and honoured. No names will be divulged and will be not shared with the fleet. We'll set standings at corporate level so you come up "blue". This isnt the first time we've done this.
As we've said before, we dont want to be killing you, we'd rather be conquering other people. The sooner this is resolved, the sooner you can all get back on your feet. Your play time is what you pay for, it doesnt mean much if you cant undock. If our offer isnt palatable, contact the same people to arrange safe transport out of the system, we'll escort you to empire with our fleet.
Thanks,
Monkiboy Supremacy Communications Director
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bobby builders
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Magnifico Edited by: Magnifico on 01/02/2005 09:27:59
I have recently left 3FA, and therefore my Corp due to the NAP with supremacy being too much for me to swallow. But the recent actions of JQA really sadden me, It seems to me you JQA folk may need to control your pilots better.
At the very least you should be making steps to reimberse 3FA for the losses brought about by a few 'rouge' pilots....If you class them as rouges that is?
I suppose your actions here on in will decide that

Riv
Btw posting as my alt but this is Rivelin.
meh number one gets away will all kinda of things beucase he is a decent PvPer. lame, but what can you do? The whole problem with the JQA is they don't enforce allaince rules and punish/boot rele breakers. like booting useless corps out or booting out members who are completel wastes of space :) but that is mostly Tar-om's fault. |

Lucas Smaise
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Posted - 2005.02.01 20:46:00 -
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Good thing that 2 former allies are able to resolve their problems in private!
Why do you post on these public forums if not to make JQA look bad.
Most alliances have some people who dont think before they act.
And when it only comes down to a few ships killed by renegade pilots is it really worth destroying the former friendship for?
Lucas Smaise
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.02.01 20:46:00 -
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On another note, I don't see why people insist Supremacy are dishonorable pirates ? afaik they mostly come from the old Omega Corp and BOS, corps that have good reputations for being "honorable", sure OC had some tards as I personally experienced a couple of times (all corps do really), but overall I think they always made a big effort to maintain their image of being honorable..
I don't recall anyone ever saying anything bad about BOS.
So frankly if Supremacy promise something then I'd be very surprised if they voluntarily broke their word.
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Mulciber Zephron
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Posted - 2005.02.01 21:05:00 -
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Thread Cleaned up, Please keep all posts on this forum in character. No Out Of Chacracter commets or non EVE related items at all
Thanks Forum Moderator Mail [email protected] Forum Rules
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Monkiboy
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Posted - 2005.02.01 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk On another note, I don't see why people insist Supremacy are dishonorable pirates ? afaik they mostly come from the old Omega Corp and BOS, corps that have good reputations for being "honorable", sure OC had some tards as I personally experienced a couple of times (all corps do really), but overall I think they always made a big effort to maintain their image of being honorable..
I don't recall anyone ever saying anything bad about BOS.
So frankly if Supremacy promise something then I'd be very surprised if they voluntarily broke their word.
To be quite honest, Supremacy has nothing to gain from breaking our agreement. Here's what would happen if we did:
1) Nobody would ever take our word again 2) All the lies people say about us about being lousy dishonourable scumbags would become validated 3) It would be all over the boards, there would be no denying it. 4) We'd lose our own members and friendly corps for being scumbags and dishonourable. ie. if we'd screw over someone else- we'd just as easily screw them over.
Let's face it, we also have no financial incentive to screw over our friends. Common sense suggests additionally, If we werent interested in honouring such an agreement, we simply wouldnt make it in the first place- it would be easier.
Besides, as FA can tell you (;-)), subterfuge takes work- I dont think any of Supremacy has the interest in such political maneuvering. Too much work, we'd rather play the game.
Monkiboy Supremacy Communications Director
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n0sPIG
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Posted - 2005.02.01 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona
Originally by: Number One thryr, how can you say such a thing when you shoot anything not DNA ?
Because they are honest about it.
How come you have a Supremacy Signature - with someone elses face innit but your in Omega?  "Your never really dead till your body stops twitching" |

Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.02.02 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: n0sPIG
Originally by: Reverend Necrona
Originally by: Number One thryr, how can you say such a thing when you shoot anything not DNA ?
Because they are honest about it.
How come you have a Supremacy Signature - with someone elses face innit but your in Omega? 
His other char is in spurm, he chose to stay in OC with this char, pay attention ! 
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.02.02 03:13:00 -
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Damn i was going to blame it all on fairy dust and the position of the stars, but you had to go ruin it Tyrrax.
[OOC: Nah on a serious note - This is my forum ***** who thx to my lazyness is still not signed up to supremacy, i'll get round to it i promise.
My main two characters are Hatepeace Lovewar & Maasu :)] Reverend Necrona |

n0sPIG
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Posted - 2005.02.02 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: n0sPIG
Originally by: Reverend Necrona
Originally by: Number One thryr, how can you say such a thing when you shoot anything not DNA ?
Because they are honest about it.
How come you have a Supremacy Signature - with someone elses face innit but your in Omega? 
His other char is in spurm, he chose to stay in OC with this char, pay attention ! 
hick hick you said spurm hick hick  "Your never really dead till your body stops twitching" |

Carolus Clusius
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Posted - 2005.02.02 17:01:00 -
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Quote: Excellent. At least you're not trying to hide, by now, the fact that you have been looking for mercs to attack 3rd Front for you. Classy move, I must say.
about as classy as backstabbing your neighbor, I would say...
It's sad to see an alliance like 3FA now bowing to the will of Supremacy. Looks like Syndicate will be back in the hands of the Pirates for years to come.
----- Carolus Clusius Trader Extraordinaire
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