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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2005.02.01 08:58:00 -
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*Somewhere in Pator...*
Im not one for many words but after serving the Amarran Empire for so many years and battling the Terrorists i was granted an audience of late with a High ranking Sarum official regarding my fathers past. Long ago i was told it was the terororists fault that he was killed in an undiclosed minmitar system on a routine training op, it was a lie...
2 standard days ago my world fell apart as i was given access to his file. His mission which i was told was a peacekeeping run to Minmitar space guarding slave and passenger haulers was in fact a rouse.
imagine my horror when i found out what his underlying orders were as i read it from the highly classified file.
"At 19:50 EST Alpha 1 will detach from main escort and proceed to nearest minmitar controlled planet and test biological device X-59-12-6, Once completed Alpha 1 will remain in orbit to verify results of test"
My father was killed at 19:25 that night by a group of freedom fighters, from which group i never knew but his death caused me to fight in a peacekeeping mission which could of easily been a war if he had succeeded.
This Revelation has completely changed my personal history but does not attone for the many many Minmitar i slaughtered during my tenya with groups such as Amax.
Suddenly my many years of what i thought was protecting my fellow brothers has turned into many years of murder which inturn has made me see that i was wrong, ive never been religious and i never really served the emperor but i did serve and follow my betters such as Light Kominski, Ethidium Bromide and Gauis Kador to name a few
but i can no longer continue to fight against people who are not terrorists but are freedom fighters fighting against an oppresive monster that will consume them if they dont fight so it is under a strange set of circumstances that i found myself seeing an attack on a slave hauler by Maggot and found myself disabling the engines of said hauler, i think maggot was shocked as he had already begun locking me once i had engaged my engines to approach the hauler attack, i guess he has some honour as he didnt open fire.
Once we had reached Quafe Station in Pator obviously i was detained under armed guard but was soon released as they needed help escorting slaves off the captured ship it was when i realised what these people had gone through my mind changed, the many dirty faces in ragged cloths limping off the docking ramp, they had bites and cuts on their bodies and they were under fed, but i couldnt belive it, they smiled as if a great weight had been taken off their back and it did not matter that they could of died in the attack.
So here i am, sitting next to maggs in my Amarran ship not an image of opression but an image of freedom...Strange, one day a good guy the next day a good guy????
anyway im letting you all know even my old friends i will not hesitate to open fire and no i havn't been corrupted by evil mind tricks i chose this path, as for the Amarran Clarion i leave Konstantin in charge i guess as well as Vanderpelt im sure he can think of an adequate half truth for my leaving ;)
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2005.02.01 09:17:00 -
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A true enlightened man sees the real light.
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Tarm
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Posted - 2005.02.01 16:08:00 -
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Traitors don't last long on the front lines. I hope you have a cozy backwater system to lurk in, because you will be hunted for your sins.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2005.02.01 16:23:00 -
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 Originally by: KhanJohn
... slaves off the captured ship ... they had bites and cuts on their bodies and they were under fed, ...
My slaves have a mass of 200 kg and a volume of 3 m¦.
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Kular
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Posted - 2005.02.01 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: Kular on 01/02/2005 16:58:44
You will return home to Amarr KhanJohn. Sarum does not forget those who betray us. I hope that you can be redeemed, if not then I shall bring you home in a casket.
Home of Ubiqua Seraph
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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2005.02.01 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: KhanJohn on 01/02/2005 17:06:28
you are quite welcome to try Kular, but my new brethren will defend me as i will defend them 
i will never forgive the Sarum Military for their betrayal
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2005.02.01 18:16:00 -
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Darius Shakor sat in his quaters and raised an eyeborw as he read the postings on the GalNet. Of particular interest was Khanjohns announcement to all that he had joined their ranks. It was not news to him. He had been in the staff canteen last night when the room fell to a deathly silence. Following the eyes of his fellow fighters as they gazed behind him towards the door, he saw a familiar face. Even then, he must admit, he felt a flush of anger for a moment as the man before them was an Amarrian. It was only the sight of Maggot and Zoolkhan stood behind him in the doorway that snapped him back to realisation before instict took over.
They had been warned before hand, by maggot himself, of the Amarrian that was to join their ranks. Ordinarilly that would not have troubled him. Freelance Unincorporated had seen such developments in recent months with the addition of Mariah Lawsara, a Ni-Kunni, to their ranks. It was hard, however, to draw comparison to this situation. Mariah had, to Darius' knowledge, never taken up arms against them and had built a reputation as a vocal anti-amarr campaigner in the past.
This man, known to all as Khanjohn, was a former enemy of their, a man who Darius had engaged in battle on several occasions in the past along with his brothers in arms. The concept was difficult to grasp now that this man was on their side. For now, he did not know if he should trust the Amarrian or not. But he found it very hard to find reason to distrust his Admiral and Commander, Maggot. As he read Khanjohn's posting, that distrust was easing off a little more.
Of one thing he was certain, Khanjohn was a skilled pilot and fighter. That was always needed on the front lines. Darius leaned back in the chair and took a sip of the strong coffee from the metal mug and mused to himself some more on the thought of fighting along side Khanjohn.
I guess, he thought to himself, as long as he fights with all his heart, I will beable to trust him. Darius took another sip as he continued his thought out loud to himself.
"And anyone who tries to take him away, will have to go through the rest of us first."
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Abolishonist
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:08:00 -
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"Good evening Lieutenant" the Admiral said as the young brutor entered 'the office' to report in for the evenings recon mission to Amarr.
The young Brutor saluted the smaller ashen skinned sebestior with respect "Greetings Admiral"
Noting the odd look to Maggots face he could not help but ask "Anything happen , Sir ?"
"We have gotten two new pilots on the roster today , Lieutenant , one of which may be known to you"
Here he paused with what could almost be considered humor twinkling in his eyes.
"Khanjohn , formerly of Amax"
"Oh , so our replacement for Frosty finally arrived then , Admiral" the young brutor answered in a mixture of taking it all in stride and privately suspecting this was a joke
His only reward for his quip was a blank stare and while shaking his head lightly the sebestior got up to leave.
"uh.. you know as a exchange student program or something ?" the young brutor stammered as he pressed himself against the wall to allow the admiral to walk past.
"So.. I'll be flying forward observer tonight then ?"
he was now talking to maggots back as he went to do whatever admiralss do before a sorti.
The young brutor sighed and muttered "better get a microwarpdrive on the Vigil tonight as well as a drive scrambler"
He couldn't make up his mind whether the Admiral didn't have a sense of humor or his jokes were just poor.
Then.. mentioning Frosty never did much for anyones mood
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Jobe Katarn
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Posted - 2005.02.01 20:50:00 -
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Edited by: Jobe Katarn on 01/02/2005 20:51:11
A grudging respect has been earned by those Ushra'Khan pilots that I have fought.
Thier fight for "freedom" is misguided, turning thier back on enlightenment.It is to be understood with thier lack of education.
Where as the activities of a traitor are just that.
Payment in full shall be extracted.
In arduis fidelis
Steadfast in Adversity
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cold lazarus
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Posted - 2005.02.01 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: KhanJohn
i will never forgive the Sarum Military for their betrayal
I doubt you will ever be foirgiven for your betrayal
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2005.02.02 01:15:00 -
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*Sarkos bows to KhanJohn*
I gladdens me to see that the light of truth has finaly burned away the cowl of ignorance obscuring your vision. Welcome to Ushra'Khan, welcome brother KhanJohn.
I look forward to flying with you in the future.
Sarkos
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.02.02 06:21:00 -
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Petty differences aside... did biological device X-59-12-6 work? And if so, where can i obtain a sample of it?
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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2005.02.02 08:49:00 -
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Edited by: KhanJohn on 02/02/2005 08:50:50
it was never tested as the ships were destroyed and as for the biological agent itself who knows where it ended up that information remains secretly locked in a vault on Sarum Prime.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.02.02 09:04:00 -
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How do you deal with the stench ? I find I can't be around the "freed" ones for extended periods without a facial mask, but maybe I'm just a spoiled pampered holder, in my experience sanitation among the enslaved ones is considerably superior to that of the wild ones.
At any rate have fun rebelling against the Empire, I'm sure it's just a phase you have to go through on the road to maturity.
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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2005.02.02 09:18:00 -
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Well actually the facilites here are top notch dont let the outside of their stations fool you, i mean they dont have the golden toilet seats but at least their toilets look modern, Plus the gold toilet seats always gave me a cold bum...
also they have new plumbing as well and they actually know how to fix it themselves rather than someone like you who has to get one of them todo it because generally you are "superiorly dumber" than the Minmitar ....just....like....me.... but then again i can admit that holder scum...
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Joda Vibe
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Posted - 2005.02.02 10:25:00 -
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Welcome to the fold Brother Khanjohn.
It is a rare but valiant action you have made, I am proud to call you my Brother.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.02.02 15:12:00 -
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Well this came as a surprise, all of it.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.02.02 16:29:00 -
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I don't use golden toilet seats, that would be wasteful, and I'm not scum 
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.02.02 17:26:00 -
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Thyraxx, you are a slaver. you are scum.
And KhanJohn will have to prove his loyalties. But I believe people can change, once people come blinking into the light of truth, from the deep shadow that your religon tries to keep you under.
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Mariah Lawsara
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Posted - 2005.02.02 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Mariah Lawsara on 02/02/2005 18:39:33
Mariah stood on the balcony, gazing out on the plains of Matar that stretched out beyond her, her robe fluttering in the wind. For the past two weeks, she had decided to take a rest here on the Matari homeworld, wondering if the tales that her Matari friends from the Ushra Khan really were true about the beauty of Matar.
She wasn't disappointed. A lush green valley stretched out before her. In the distance, the silvery reflections of the Kaltari river twisted through the thick forest. Aside from a flock of birds that wheeled overhead, there was no activity below. It was a shame after centuries of abuse by her once Amarrian people that not all of Matar was like this. It was even more of a shame that she now had to leave.
She felt more calm here than in any church on Amarr Prime. Although the presence of a Ni-Kunni disturbed some of the Matari in the hotel she stayed at, the tatoo of the Red fist of the Ushra'Khan that had been placed on the back of her hand had done something to placate them. They knew that a Ni-Kunni, despite their history and place among the Amarr empire, was part of the group fighting for freedom.
And now, an Amarrian was soon to join them. Mariah was startled when Khaldorn first transmitted the news to her. A once proud pilot of the Amarr empire was now joining the fight against them. Mariah hoped that more would come. Despite making a few friends among her Matari comrades, she was one of the first Amarrian to fight against the Amarr, and she still felt a tinge of loneliness. With KhanJohn joining the fight, she felt that maybe more would come. She even thought about the prospect of creating a corporation of Amarr and Ni-Kunni within Ushra'Khan, much like PIE, but fighting against slavery rather than protecting it.
She dismissed the thought. Such an endeavor was far from possible at this time, and she still had much to learn about the ways of the freedom fighter. For now, she walked back into her room to pick up her belongings. Her shuttle was ready, and she had an Amarrian to meet...
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.02.02 21:30:00 -
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Pity... However, its all for the best in the long run... Minmatar always need more ammo... and Amarr always enjoy our Luxary goods.
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Majaraw Awalabas
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Posted - 2005.02.02 22:55:00 -
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Clueless he's been and clueless he still is and will be.
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2005.02.03 08:27:00 -
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Okay listen up Machete, mylad
I know you like killing Amarr Scum and that KhanJohn is on your KOS list, but now he's off it.
*Machete looks lost and bewildered*
Don't look dishearted, young lad, it's not everyday an Amarrian see's the errors of his race. And it's not as if the CVA is short of any willing targets now is it?
*Machete gives an evil grin*
Thats the spirit. Now arm up that Rifter, tonight we're going shopping. And it's going to be interesting to see how our new... family member... earns our respect.
"And if he doesn't, sir?" *Machete asks*
Then, young man, he's free game.
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Russo
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Posted - 2005.02.03 10:34:00 -
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"Anyway im letting you all know even my old friends i will not hesitate to open fire "
I can assure you, I will not hesitate to open fire either. You are a flip flopper, you are blind to the Truth that is God, and you go where you believe personal fame will follow.
By the way, that file on your fathers death, it was actually a joke I wrote down on a notebook. Flotwell spoofed the sender address so you would think it was some Top Secret document and mailed it to you. Now you can spend the rest of your days being target number 1. It aint fun, I know from experience.
-Sincerely joyful to be hunting you
Russo
Russo - CEO Amarria Auxilia
Your friendly neighborhood badass
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Vanderpelt
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Posted - 2005.02.03 11:09:00 -
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Putting aside the joke about half truths (plus it is more like 1/4 i am afraid, comes with the job). Here are my thoughts.
Well KJ i see you have decided to follow your heart and i for one cannot fault that, perhaps you would consider becoming the head of the Tribune, since i have to accept your resignation from the Clarion.
Either way EG will always offer you a home for as long as you need one.
Vanderpelt
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2005.02.03 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Vanderpelt
Putting aside the joke about half truths (plus it is more like 1/4 i am afraid, comes with the job). Here are my thoughts.
Well KJ i see you have decided to follow your heart and i for one cannot fault that, perhaps you would consider becoming the head of the Tribune, since i have to accept your resignation from the Clarion.
Either way EG will always offer you a home for as long as you need one.
Vanderpelt
Why must he resign? I thought EG was an open and free press. Since EG was the one to assign him to the UshraKhan in the first place as a reporter, why now that he is a member must he quit? Most unusual and something to think about.
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Matt Ivresse
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Posted - 2005.02.03 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Matt Ivresse on 03/02/2005 12:17:08
He's not resigning from EG completely Sarkos (I hope), he's merely resigning from the Amarrian Clarion, which is the part of EG that's suited to Amarrian beliefs. If an Ushra Khan member fighting against slavery was to be head of an Amarrian newspaper, that wouldn't be particularly desirable by an Amarrian viewpoint, would it?
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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2005.02.03 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: KhanJohn on 03/02/2005 17:34:56
Edited by: KhanJohn on 03/02/2005 17:33:45
hehe ill be continueing at EG but for the tribune
and im sure the clarion will be writing a nice report of my betrayal lol
and Russo, i hoep we meet soon old friend as you will witness your teachinsg come to good use.....your death!
(ooc - thanks for all the comments guys  )
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.02.03 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Kostantin Mort on 03/02/2005 17:35:33
You are making yourself sound more important than you actually are, traitor.
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2005.02.03 18:13:00 -
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Any amarrian who recognises the evil action of your race is important.
Each one is a sign of your brutal reign's demise.
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.02.03 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: AsheRaven
Each one is a sign of your brutal reign's demise.
as i've said so many times before, the Amarrian's supreme arrogance, and foolishstate of denial for the crimes they have comitted will be their empire's downfall.
it is nice, as an outsider, to see some members of the amarrian community coming to their senses, and joining the Ushra'khan in their battle for freedom
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2005.02.03 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tarm
Traitors don't last long on the front lines. I hope you have a cozy backwater system to lurk in, because you will be hunted for your sins.
I am sure he knows to handle your kind as well
he knew to battle us.
However, if you want to kill him - make sure
to pass my guns unseen. Because you would never
pass them seen.
He has free access to uncensored data now,
this is our way to englighten and educate.
You wont like it
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member.
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2005.02.03 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
it is nice, as an outsider, to see some members of the amarrian community coming to their senses, and joining the Ushra'khan in their battle for freedom
Thank you. We will continue to kill you if you dare to
cross our paths filthy pirates!
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member.
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.02.03 21:01:00 -
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A new corrupted pod pilot... is nothing new. Pod technology serves to corrupt the soul of those who do not fight the impurity created by the cloneing withen ones own body.
It is little surprise that this one has now fallen completely, it has not been unexpected.
Have joy with your aquisition of this traitor... and know that traitors cant be trusted by anyone.
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2005.02.03 23:41:00 -
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Once again, something else is to blame.
Your beggining to sound like the adlolesants atheart you really are
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superstupor
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Posted - 2005.02.04 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: superstupor on 04/02/2005 11:52:46
Here are your own words...
"Long ago i was told it was the terororists fault that he was killed in an undiclosed minmitar system on a routine training op, it was a lie...
2 standard days ago my world fell apart as i was given access to his file. His mission which i was told was a peacekeeping run to Minmitar space guarding slave and passenger haulers was in fact a rouse."
Wait...was he on a training op or was he on a peacekeeping run? Training op is not equal to real peacekeeping op. You show your own story to be false with the inconsistencies you showed in the first few paragraphs.
It is obvious KhanJohn has lost his mind, which is why he joined the apes. It is clear he is insane when he discredits himself by presenting two versions of the same story in one post.
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Mariah Lawsara
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Posted - 2005.02.04 13:55:00 -
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Edited by: Mariah Lawsara on 04/02/2005 13:59:10
superstupor, a peacekeeping run carrying slaves is be a regular thing for the Amarr, therefore it can be classified as a training run as it's something that happens quite naturally. To the Amarr, a training run stops becoming a training run if there is actual combat involved against more than a single fighter...
You need to understand the basic thoughts of my people before thinking them inconsistent. Dunno how a gullible fool like you became an Ammatar if you don't even know how the Amarrian thinks...
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.04 15:55:00 -
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*sigh*
So, this the new Amarrian plan for taking over the Minmatar again, is it? Defect every single one of the Amarr citizens to the 'freedom fighters', making you one nation again? Pretty pitiful.
The Amarr of snivelling cowards. Every single one of them. So long as Minmatar continue to practice such stupendous idiocy as to letting Amarr spies join their ranks, they are destined to be enslaved.
They are a perfect match, Amarr and Minmatar. Each owns staggering weaknesses complementing one-another perfectly. If only the Gallente would join your little group, and we'd have all the weak and stupid races convieniently bunched together ready for Caldari/Jove invasion.
May the Maker take pity on you all.
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Mariah Lawsara
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Posted - 2005.02.04 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Mariah Lawsara on 04/02/2005 16:03:42
I suggest, Nero Scuro, that you shut the hell up for insulting KhanJohn's and my desire to help the Minmatar free their people before I, and the rest of Ushra Khan most likely, come round to your station and smack you one you snivelling little money-grabbing weasel...
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.04 16:27:00 -
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before I, and the rest of Ushra Khan
Got them on a leash already, have you, Amarrian? I hope they wake up and see you for what you are, souless one, for their sake.
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Dimebar
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Posted - 2005.02.04 16:50:00 -
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I think you should personally wake up and see yourself for what you are, Nero, a dumb ******* with neither wit or intelligence to make credible accusations without checking facts first...
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.04 17:21:00 -
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Quote:
checking facts first...
Ok, let me check the facts...
Fact 1: Amarrian in hauler gets attacked by Minmatar fighter. Hauler surrenders, not surprisingly. I mean, he's in a HAULER! Um, so cowardice is proof that he's on your side now, is it?
Fact 2: Amarrian says his father was killed by Minmatar because he was bombing a planet. That was reason enough for KhanJohn to switch sides, was it? Hell, he's probably bombed quite a few planets himself, in his time.
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Long ago i was told it was the terororists fault that he was killed in an undiclosed minmitar system on a routine training op, it was a lie...
Also, what the hell where Amarr doing training in a Minmatar system? Let me guess - shooting Minmatar? How is THAT any better than bombing Minmatar?
I mean, seriously, he's been fighting you all his life. He's an Amarrian - they're ALL the same.
I respect the Minmatar for fighting the Amarr, but I can't help but pity and even feel angry at them when they do something so incredibly stupid as this. KhanJohn will murder you and your families while you sleep, be sure of that.
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.02.04 22:03:00 -
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Why once again Blaster Target Nero shows his face in here... and look he is makeing even more friends. Hmm maybe Pulgor misnamed you... you seem to be attracting more pulse lasers and autocannons than blasters.
Gaven grins
I somehow doubt you will need any help killing this one if he keeps talking, Mariah, so I wont bother offering to help. You would probably decline accepting anything on the logic that I would have to kill you once I took out our Blaster Target here anyway.
Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II! |
Mariah Lawsara
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Posted - 2005.02.04 23:14:00 -
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Nah, I wouldn't mind you coming along to help Gaven, even with those conditions. Just make sure we kill him in a warp disruptor, you showed up in an Impairor and I showed up in a Maller or something...
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2005.02.04 23:50:00 -
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Maybe I can come and, erm... take pictures.... in my typhoon....
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.05 00:37:00 -
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Two ancient rust tins and a giant flying junk pile? Wow, I'm positively... QUIVERING...
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2005.02.05 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
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before I, and the rest of Ushra Khan
Got them on a leash already, have you, Amarrian? I hope they wake up and see you for what you are, souless one, for their sake.
*yawns* nero, your words have as much weight as you
as a combat pilot in this struggle.
which is "zero"
zool out.
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member.
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2005.02.05 11:39:00 -
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Well Mariah is right im afraid about the training op and "peackeeping Mission",
to an ammaran a "peacekeeping mission" is basically an order to go out there and dont let anything stand in your way and as for the fact of it beign a training op yoru rigth it doesnt match up i agree with you since as you said it WAS a LIE which i WAS told WHEN very young but besides the point, many times i myself have taken new pilots to pator as being "supposedly Superior" what would we have to fear???, and again ive never bombed a planet nor have the desire to slaughter a planets populace...in the old days it was more profitable to take a planets populace alive...but those are times i do not wish to remember.
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Aphoxema G
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Posted - 2005.02.06 04:04:00 -
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Here I go, running my transmitters again.
I'm a pod pilot, I'm here curled up in a fetal position, floating in a pool of NutriGoo, wires and tubes stuck all over me. Though it may have corrupted me, I have long grown used to it.
The only way I can now exist as a child of space, dependant on ships someone else builds. If I want to be 'replaced', my life is in the hands of whoever's assigned to install my consious into my clone. Still, dying's not really so bad... and the transfer feels flawless in every way possible.
You never have to be in a pod, yourself.. but trust me when I say it takes alot more guts to get in one, more than once, than you can imagine. Best yet, in a pod, it's more sanitary than you can understand... you always feel clean.
KhanJohn... it's nice to know that you feel you're doing the right thing, but you need to be sure why you're doing it. You shouldn't be freeing slaves in retaliation of your government lying to you, you should be freeing them because you feel right to do it.
Sometimes, though, I wonder if I'd make a better slave than what I am now... all I do is cut rock and take up space...
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The more and more I think about your threat towards me, Mariah, the more I become worried for the Ushra'Khan.
Is this the way they now operate? That they would side in a fight with an active slaver to destroy someone who disagrees with their choices? Is that how monumental your ego has become?
Perhaps even more worrying is that they would murder anyone who disagrees with them. Is THAT the 'freedom' you are fighting for!? Bah, what more could be expected from an Amarrian... You are below my contempt, honorless viper...
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Is this the way they now operate? That they would side in a fight with an active slaver to destroy someone who disagrees with their choices? Is that how monumental your ego has become?
Ok, let me put it like this. Where is your proof? Also, do you not thinkg that we do not take security checks on our prespective recruits? Khanjohn has been gone from the fight for quite a while before he joind our ranks. He has already engaged in combat with us against the slavers in the CVA and AMAX. Not exactly the way an 'active slaver' would operate. Even if this is not enough proof for you that he is one of us now, then sooner ot later, time will prove you wrong.
As for what the Ushra'Khan has become... it is still what it has always been. We look after our own, and Khanjohn is one of ours now. Threatening you in any way is nothing to do with you disagreein with us and everything to do with defending the honour of one of our own. A concept I am sure you must know something about, however thin that knowledge may be.
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Posted - 2005.02.06 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: Mariah Lawsara on 06/02/2005 12:36:11
Let me ask you something Nero Scuro, friend of absolutely no-one because all he knows is how to **** everyone off, Do you absolutely know anything about me? Have you bothered to actually do a background check as to who or what I am?
Let me tell you a few details about myself. I used to be an Amarrian holder, but after the way I saw my people treat people from other races, I wanted to distance myself from my Amarrian heritage.
To do that, I had to stop being Amarr. My mind may still be that of an Amarrian holder who remembers her past, but it was transferred to the body of a dead Ni-Kunni slave. I did not wish to be enslaved in the cancer that was the Amarr, and thus I transferred my mind.
One of the first things I did to distance myself from Amarrian belief was that I purchased all the slaves that was being sold in all three Minmatar Republic regions before the era of the Exodus began, and I gave them all to Khaldorn of Freelance Unincorporated. I freed thousands of Minmatar that day and I have never looked back since. I finally joined the freedom fighters to continue in the hope that one day my people would understand that they cannot keep taking the freedom of other people.
How dare you try to judge me simply because I am Amarrian. You are nothing more than a racist pig, worthy of contempt from no-one, not the Minmatar, not the Gallente, not the Amarr, and probably not even from your Caldari. You disgust everyone else more than I probably disgust you, and the sooner you are removed from existence to protect the honour of both myself and my Minmatar friends, then the happier everyone else will be, even my Amarrian enemies...
Racism has no honour in this world, Nero Scuro. Remember that...
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Posted - 2005.02.06 14:00:00 -
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KhanJohn and Mariah Lawsara,
You have both been swayed by the sweet words of Devil and thus fallen into his snare. I do not hate or condem you, that is a matter for God. Rather I pity you both that along the way you have strayed.
I will remember you each night in my prayers. I will pray that God touch you and open your eyes to the true path. I will pray that you find your way back home where you belong.
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Posted - 2005.02.06 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: KhanJohn on 06/02/2005 14:17:37
Religion has been used as an excuse for centuries of war and torture, you can continue brother edward to follow your teachings which have made you as good as being blind, ddeaf and dumb to reality but do not dare pray for me as i have no need for prayer from another murderer like myself, i was once like you following the tradiotionalist way of religion, a relic from the darkest ages of the empire, do you still wear those silly robes, still pray to your emperor as if he is any better than you? a man entombed upon a golden throne, nothing but an idol kept alive by the many machines and chemicals pumped into his body...is that what you truly believe is holy?
At least when i die i will have finally fought for something i believe in and that wasnt programmed into my psyche from birth, Prayers of devotion, Inquisitors to route out heresy? is this the life you wish to lead? follow like a sheep and be slaughtered by our gunfire as one as well....
For me its not just about freeing of a people we have taken and then murderered, abused and pillaged, its about being an example to all Amarrans that there is a better way than following books intended for darker, older times. If it means my death to be that example then so be it...but lies and prayer will never be tolerated by myself ever again....
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Posted - 2005.02.06 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: KhanJohn
Edited by: KhanJohn on 06/02/2005 14:17:37
Religion has been used as an excuse for centuries of war and torture,
As has sex, money, technology and everyother thing you can imagine. War and torture do not need an excuse to occur. All man is born into sin and through God we can rise above that nature.
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you can continue brother edward to follow your teachings which have made you as good as being blind, ddeaf and dumb to reality but do not dare pray for me as i have no need for prayer from another murderer like myself
You say my faith blinds me, eyt is it you that is blind to reality laying the balme for mankinds vices upon the shoulders of religion alone when the TRUE blame for this lies on mankind.
You call me a murder and yet I have never taken a life. In war I leave my opponents in their pods. Life is a gift from God and I do not have the right to take that gift from another, only God can. If you have murdered then you must repent but do not put your crimes upon my shoulders.
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i was once like you following the tradiotionalist way of religion, a relic from the darkest ages of the empire, do you still wear those silly robes, still pray to your emperor as if he is any better than you? a man entombed upon a golden throne, nothing but an idol kept alive by the many machines and chemicals pumped into his body...is that what you truly believe is holy?
What I believe is Holy is the Word and Spirit of the Most High God. You speak of my faith to an idol yet you have by your own actions and using your words traded one idol for another. The Minmitar cry for freedom and the abolishment of slavery. As they cry this they take captives in their petty tribal wars and then sell them to Amarr merchants as slaves to make money to continue their petty tribal wars. As they hold these people for sale NONE of the laws that promise fair treatment of a slave in Amarr are observed. We spend millions of ISK in medical treatment to help this people recover from the autrocities performed on them by Minmitar!
You have traded your faith in the true God for faith in a word that those crying it do not believe in. You seek to abolish an action that those crying out against it profit most from it secretly.
Which is the worst sin Brother, to call a thing evil and still do it in secret or to openly do a thing and call it good? God will judge.
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At least when i die i will have finally fought for something i believe in and that wasnt programmed into my psyche from birth, Prayers of devotion, Inquisitors to route out heresy? is this the life you wish to lead? follow like a sheep and be slaughtered by our gunfire as one as well....
When you die you will have fought for nothing because the things you fight for do not exist. The very people you fight to free seek to enslave themselves. After your fight is done and your earthly reward made you will then face eternity in punishment for rejecting God. You will feel good for a season but eternity will have you in torment.
Brother look around you. The true sin is the way the Minmitar people treat their own. They not only take slaves but they treat them with cruelty and abuse. Tha Amarr take those slaves and heal them. They educate them and then give them a chance to know God. Through service to God and the Amarr they earn their freedom. Something their own people stole from them and would never let them have back.
To use your own words...
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Posted - 2005.02.06 17:39:00 -
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Fine, Mariah, if what you say is true (and I don't see anybody disputing it, so...) then I'm sorry for accusing you of being Amarrian. But...
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Racism has no honour in this world, Nero Scuro. Remember that...
You call racism against AMARRIANS bad!? The greatest racists to ever exist? 'People' who commited genocide against NUMEROUS races? 'People' who enslaved countless more? You accuse me of being racist to the Amarr - fine, I take it as a compliment.
And since when do you become honorless for hating the honorless?
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Posted - 2005.02.06 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: KhanJohn on 06/02/2005 20:13:54
Edited by: KhanJohn on 06/02/2005 20:08:41
Edited by: KhanJohn on 06/02/2005 20:08:02
only base my arguments upon what is known to be true brother, was it not our people who initiated the atack on the minmitar in the first place, was it not based upon religion??? or the superior mindset our race seems to belive it has??? Im glad you have never podded someone maybe there is one more decent fellow more than me but still i wonder whether escorting slaves or supporting the use of drugs and methods that kill slaves means you are a murderer anyway even if you do not pull the trigger???
I have not swapped one idol for another more a swap from one belief that is a lie to another that is a truth, a statement i belive in is that we as a race do not have rights to abuse another sentient lifeform under the guise that we are somehow purifying its soul for the next world, the Minmitar are not livestock to be abused they have rights and souls which may not be defined by any one god or greater power of our own choosing
Biological evolution of life is generally accepted by most scientists. While all accept that intelligent life exists (Not Only Amarran), many may be at odds with the assumption that Amarrans are ensouled, or uncertain as to what it may mean. Science has never agreed with religion at the best of times but Amarrans believe that Science and Religion go hand in hand with one another to claim superior technology and superior religion.
Now for the science and religion i believe in...
Most animals and plants found on amarr have hive or group souls. These souls orchestrate the behavior of these life forms so that they all act much alike, and (in the case of animals) their actions are heavily driven by fear. For example, the Growling pattern of all "Slaver dogs" when faced with a potential threat (e.g. someone walking by) is almost identical. Upon death, the group soul governing the actions of these non-ensouled creatures simply withdraws. The others of its type are almost unaware that one of their group has died and will carry on regardless of it, their souls do not mourn the death but they do fear a smell a sight or a sound of death not becuase they understand what it is simply becuase they are not use to it.
Such creatures experience little "choice" since their actions are dictated by the external group soul. Their evolution is slow because it is throttled by their limited ability to make choices. Animals are usually creatures (or prey of creatures) of the "fang and claw". Fear is required as a means of survival, for without it, they would likely starve, or be eaten. Fear is a primordial Instinct both intelligent life forms and Non ILF's form...
At some particular place and time in the galaxy, the conditions are right on the physical plane to ensoul a creature governed by a group soul on the spiritual plane. Perhaps the formation of an ILF is required by a greater purpose or power (God) so the collective choices and their consequences, experienced by many species, can be integrated and synthesized by the greater purpose or power, some would say an evolution of the spirit which can affect the physical plane. This can occur only when ILFs co- operatively accept one another. However, this integration is effectively impossible for the group spirit because fear has governed its experiences on the physical plane hence the physical plant can not afect a change in the spiritual plane. Something, for some reason, selects a species and re-programs or re-organizes its group soul which eventually becomes the core of its "personality". As Amarrans we belive we can affect the soul of others and enlighten them to the way of god or greater power yet we on the physical plane have no understanding of the spiritual plane although we all have a connection to it, we belive as a people that we are affecting the ILF's soul. But an interferance in the "physical plane" will never affect the soul on the "soul plane". In conclusion forcign a physical entity that is an ILF to go against its given personality will never be complete eventually the physical entity will revert to its pre programmed personality that is not to say the minmitar wont follow the Amarran way just that as an ILF they form their own ideas and conclusions like us hence opression and slavery and so called reprogramming centres will never affect the soul and purify it ready for what you belive is the greater power when you cannot comprehend god yourselves, to try to do so is beyond all understanding...or in other words impossible
as for me being punished for eternity that is what you believe not a fact.
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Posted - 2005.02.06 20:12:00 -
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continued from above...
You also seem to forget brother i lived in Domain and in Sarum for a long time, treatment of all people all over the galaxy could be better the same problems that affect Domain affect everywhere else the difference being choice...
Fewer people are becoming increasingly ôsuccessfulö and wealthy while a disproportionately larger population are also becoming even poorer.
There are many issues involved when looking at galatic poverty and inequality. It is not simply enough (or correct) to say that the poor are poor due to their own doing or forced enslavement by other (or their government's) bad governance and management. In fact, you could quite easily conclude that the poor are poor because the rich are rich and have the power to enforce unequal trade agreements and laws that favor their interests more than the poorer people/empires.
anyway the hour is late and i have much work to be done, i will end with what i believe and you will believe what you believe see you on the battlefield.
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Posted - 2005.02.07 00:27:00 -
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Science has nothing to do with religion. This is how it has been and how it always has been. Religion relies on the soul, while science relies on the mind. While both sides have their uses, it is the soul which wins in the end. You claim that is it impossible to imbue true belief into a person just by causing actions on their physical group, but you are mistaken and this is where all your nice speech falls down. What of the Ni-Kunni? Aren't they as worshipful as the rest of the Amarr? And the Udorians? They suffered enslavement too and yet they are here among us, even managing to become one of the Noble Houses of Amarr. And you wish to tell me that these people don't believe? Of course they do! Our entire Empire relies on the belief of these people, so to claim that their enslavement had nothing to do with their spiritual enlightenment is pure idiocy.
You are nothing more than a traitor, KhanJohn. You have turned your back on the people that have supported you for your entire life, the people that put you in a pod, the people that have ensured that terrorists like the ones you are helping do not kill innocent traders. You claim that the Amarr have created atrocities, but the terrorists you fight with now have done more and worse. I can account for that. My own race killed by enraged Brutors. Freedom is a poison to the mind and you have just swallowed the bottle, traitor. May your festering corpse be burned for neverending ages once the Apocalypse comes and may your soul scream for evermore as God righteously punishes you for your sickening sins.
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Posted - 2005.02.07 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
You call racism against AMARRIANS bad!?
Yes actually
Do I call the swift execution of slavers like you wrong though? No. Be it Amarrian, Mini,ita, Gallante or Caldari, I'll kill them all, and keep on killing them. As your Empire and the Khanid Kingdom currently support the slave trade, it's only natuaral that your empire is our main target.
Don't take it personally, just blame your trading laws... or lack there of to fall in line with the rest of the galaxy.
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Posted - 2005.02.07 02:55:00 -
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Um, Ashe Raven, I'm Caldari. The Caldari State does NOT support slavery. Neither do I. I should know, I have 40 former slaves currently taking resident in my hangars in Nonni that I cannot transport to their respective homes because I will be shot at by the State if I do.
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Posted - 2005.02.07 03:56:00 -
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Nero, the state is not anti slavery, merely anti slave trade. We wholeheartedly support Amarrians and their traditions.
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Horatio Cain
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Posted - 2005.02.07 03:59:00 -
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Speak for yourself Kyle. The State officially does not condone slavery. It is a matter of opinion among citizens of the State regarding their feelings about the Amarr Empire.
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.07 04:48:00 -
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I said that the State does not support slavery, not that it was anti-slavery.
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Posted - 2005.02.07 19:06:00 -
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Edited by: Darius Shakor on 07/02/2005 19:09:00
Yet one of your biggest state corporations developed transcranial microchips and sold them to Khandid so they can use them to subdue slaves without Vitoc.
Very non-supportive.
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.02.07 19:21:00 -
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And they also developed Vitoc, but that's another story.
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.07 19:45:00 -
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That was an independant corporation. The Caldari State Military will blow away anyone transporting slaves.
So yeah, very non-supportive, all in all.
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Posted - 2005.02.07 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Shakor
Edited by: Darius Shakor on 07/02/2005 19:09:00
Yet one of your biggest state corporations developed transcranial microchips and sold them to Khandid so they can use them to subdue slaves without Vitoc.
Very non-supportive.
Like most Caldari corporations, they develop the technology. They don't really care what's done with it, as long as the sale is made.
When the deal with the Khanid Kingdom went bust, it was because they couldsell them for more isks/more volume to the Gallente. I hear T-chips are quite popular there, still.
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.02.07 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
That was an independant corporation. The Caldari State Military will blow away anyone transporting slaves.
So yeah, very non-supportive, all in all.
Yep. The corporations are owned by mega-corporations and the mega-corporations own the state. Yep, very supportive.
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.07 22:30:00 -
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The mega-corporations do NOT own the State! That is a vicious lie propagated by underhand Gallente corporations in an attempt to lower public relations with the State. The mega-corporations work hand in hand with the State to keep the Caldari people where they have always been - at the forefront of all technological and military breakthroughs.
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Posted - 2005.02.07 23:09:00 -
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Brother Mort,
I am loath to correct a Brother of the Faith but there is a misconception within your statement. The state does not own the Mega-Corporations, rather the Corporations own the state.
This is the weakness and depravity of the Caldari state. It is about the profit of the corporation and the accumulation of individual wealth, not about the good of the people..
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Posted - 2005.02.08 02:02:00 -
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Ihave to admit it
The Amarr and Caldari sur have a unique way of tactifully changing the subject.
*Returns to discuss the construction of Malafor's Armageddon with his inventive Amarrian wingman. He turns again and smiles*
On that note, may I introduce my new engineer, Malafor, one of the most inventive Amarrian's I have ever had the pleasure of inducting into my small corp. May his lasers cut you in two, may his knoledge blind you, may his honour free many.
Amarrains in the fight for freedom we're once few and far between, now they are becoming many. The tide is turning, we are coming for our people, they will be free.
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Posted - 2005.02.08 03:35:00 -
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The Holy Scriptures fortold of the falling away of the faithful.
A sign for you shall be that the faithful will begin to lose their way. They will trade their freedom for the bondage of sin and join those that have fled from the face of God.
However do not dispair, for this is one of the signs that the time is near for the people of God to take their rightful place as the children of God and rule by his side.
The tide is not turning, it does as tides always do, it flows out before the large rush back in.
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Posted - 2005.02.08 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Brother Edward
Brother Mort,
I am loath to correct a Brother of the Faith but there is a misconception within your statement. The state does not own the Mega-Corporations, rather the Corporations own the state.
This is the weakness and depravity of the Caldari state. It is about the profit of the corporation and the accumulation of individual wealth, not about the good of the people..
No connection is needed, Brother Edward, for your words are exactly what I said. I suggest you read my post again.
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Posted - 2005.02.08 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kostantin Mort
No connection is needed, Brother Edward, for your words are exactly what I said. I suggest you read my post again.
My Brother I beg your forgiveness. As we wade through the sin that abounds in these places trying to spread the light, my eyes are blurred by the darkness.
I will spend more time in prayer and fasting that I might be better prepared to bring the light inot the darkness.
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Posted - 2005.02.08 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Brother Edward
A sign for you shall be that the faithful will begin to lose their way. They will trade their freedom for the bondage of sin and join those that have fled from the face of God.
However do not dispair, for this is one of the signs that the time is near for the people of God to take their rightful place as the children of God and rule by his side.
Any man can write a bok that will cover many possibilties. I see no bondage in freedom, no sin in caring for the well being and betterment of those less fortunate than ourselves. No greed giving all that I have to the poorestof our galaxy.
A subtle mirror to your own way of life.
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Posted - 2005.02.08 13:11:00 -
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Blind fools
That text was in reference to the Khanid, not the Matari, at least thats what my priests had me believed.
It angered them greatly when I Became a Khanid ciziten. Angered them more when I denounced the faulse God on the Golden Throne.
There is only one God, My king, Khanid.
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Posted - 2005.02.08 13:12:00 -
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Bloody fools the lot of you.
Can't even agree on your own scriptures
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.02.08 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Counsulut
Blind fools
That text was in reference to the Khanid, not the Matari, at least thats what my priests had me believed.
It angered them greatly when I Became a Khanid ciziten. Angered them more when I denounced the faulse God on the Golden Throne.
There is only one God, My king, Khanid.
And it angers me greatly that you call us fools while you obviously have NO idea what God is. The Emperor is not God! He is merely the leader of our noble Empire, chosen by God to rule the people of Amarr. Not even the Khanid believe that their king is a God.
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Posted - 2005.02.08 14:47:00 -
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I belibe that God resides in him and is therefore closer togodhood that your pretender could ever be, wayward brother
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.08 15:06:00 -
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I feel it is my duty to end your childish arguement, amusing though it is to laugh at you both. You have no God, souless little men, there is only the Maker and The Maker does not favor either of you.
Now go be good little children and go play on the highway in front of oncoming haulers. You'll be doing the universe a great service.
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These little children, Ineednot remind you, share the biggest playgrounds in the galaxy combined.
If anything, thet to me is evidence enough that we are God's favoured. You got got second prize, if that after your loss in the Gallante war, remember your place.
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Posted - 2005.02.08 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Brother Edward on 08/02/2005 15:33:59
Originally by: Counsulut
I belibe that God resides in him and is therefore closer togodhood that your pretender could ever be, wayward brother
The Holy Scriptures say;
"In the fullness of time there will arise those that claim to be God. They will try to upsurp the power that I have given to the people of Amarr. Do not be decieved, there is but one true and Holy God. All others are pretenders sent by yhe enemy to draw your from your faith."
The Amarr people do not believe that the Emperor is God. Rather they believe he speaks for God as a prophet. Your misguided beliefs are fortold in the Holy texts. Come brother, return to the light before your path leads you to destruction and damnation.
As for Nero attempt at minor insults and petty arguments is amusing, like watching my youngest argue over who should have the toy. When you have matured enough to discuss matters please feel free to join this discourse..
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Posted - 2005.02.08 16:35:00 -
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Our LOSS!? We ground the pathetic little Gallente into dust. All they got for their effort was Caldari Prime, which I would rather not have given it's close proximity to THEIR homeworld.
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As for Nero attempt at minor insults and petty arguments is amusing, like watching my youngest argue over who should have the toy. When you have matured enough to discuss matters please feel free to join this discourse..
Pah! All your 'discourse' is about is who is more wrong. I'll save you the effort - you are BOTH incorrect. Your Golden God is nothing more than thinly veiled excuses for wholesale genocide.
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Posted - 2005.02.08 18:02:00 -
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Nero, you are nothing more than a small bumbling child, trying to pretend that your words have any meaning or sense. You claim the State has morality, yet I see none. The only true morality is that of God, and only through his teaching can we have a united galaxy. The Amarr are strong, they will always be. The empire shall never crumble as long as the belief in God remains, for that has been written in the scriptures and that shall be our future. It matters not if our eventual triumph happens in my generation or the next, but rest assured that your soul will forever dread the day it said the things you have spoken.
True guidance comes from God, and only from him we can learn what is good and bad, not the Gallante to which you obviously aspire to. The State couldn't care less about slaves, the terrorists or anything else concerning the Minmatar or the Amarr. Don't fool yourself that they do.
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Posted - 2005.02.08 18:58:00 -
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Congratulations are in order for you KhanJohn, an Amarri who has the vision to see the error in his ways. I sincerely hope your motives are pure and resolute in purpose, and your targets are worthy of obliteration.
Vengeance and retribution can be a powerful emotion; just don't forget what your new allies fighting for. 
Glamour Bunnies Entertainment Corporation
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.08 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kostantin Mort
Nero, you are nothing more than a small bumbling child, trying to pretend that your words have any meaning or sense. You claim the State has morality, yet I see none. The only true morality is that of God, and only through his teaching can we have a united galaxy. The Amarr are strong, they will always be. The empire shall never crumble as long as the belief in God remains, for that has been written in the scriptures and that shall be our future. It matters not if our eventual triumph happens in my generation or the next, but rest assured that your soul will forever dread the day it said the things you have spoken.
True guidance comes from God, and only from him we can learn what is good and bad, not the Gallante to which you obviously aspire to. The State couldn't care less about slaves, the terrorists or anything else concerning the Minmatar or the Amarr. Don't fool yourself that they do.
That sounds more like you are trying to convince YOURSELF, fool.
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We ground the pathetic little Gallente into dust.
Yeah, real aspiring. I'm really getting into their drug-laced good-books with comments like that, aren't I?
And as for me saying the State is anti-slavery - when did I say this? When did I say that the State (or myself, for that matter) cares about the Minmatar? I simply hate YOU, filthy Amarrian. There is morality in that, morality that everyone BUT the Amarrians see.
ALL races have banned slave trading. I think that proves my point...
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Brother Edward
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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
ALL races have banned slave trading. I think that proves my point...
This is not correct, the Amarr and the Ammatar have niether done this...
As for hateing the Amarr, it is common for people to hate what they fear or do not understand...
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:21:00 -
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This is not correct, the Amarr and the Ammatar have niether done this...
The Amarr are not a race. They are... animals... And Ammatar are their lackeys, they'll do whatever the Amarr tell them to. So they don't count, what with having no free-will.
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:40:00 -
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Nero, you are behond hope or reason. May God have pity on your soul.
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Brother Edward
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Posted - 2005.02.08 22:13:00 -
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Brother, Nero is to be pitied. hatred is bred in ignorance and fear. He fears what he does not understand. He hides this ignorance out of a desire to now look ignorant. As such he attacks because he cannot defend.
We should have pity on him just as we do for children or animals or the village idiot. We should pray for his soul to be saved and ignore his ramblings. He is to be pitied and tolerated as he is obvious not fully able to comprehend all that he is hearing.
Nero know that you are still a child of a loving God, no matter the mental limitations you possess. Know that he loves you and there ia purpose for your existance. Embrace the love of God and find peace, walk with God and perhaps even find wisdom...
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.02.08 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Brother Edward
Nero know that you are still a child of a loving God, no matter the mental limitations you possess. Know that he loves you and there ia purpose for your existance. Embrace the love of God and find peace, walk with God and perhaps even find wisdom...
He is not Amarr. Thus your god does not love him.
It's really not hard to understand. Amarr are the chosen people, others are not 
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Mariah Lawsara
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Posted - 2005.02.08 23:35:00 -
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Edited by: Mariah Lawsara on 08/02/2005 23:35:33
You know Nero, seeing the way you act, you act a hell of a lot more Amarrian than you do Caldari...
1) You believe in a higher diety, just like an Amarrian (This 'Maker' guy that nobody else has heard of...).
2) You believe that anyone who doesn't believe in this so-called 'Maker' is souless and does not deserve his favour, just like an Amarrian.
3) You are racist and hate everyone that belongs to a particular race or culture that isn't your own, just like an Amarrian.
4) You think your race is all-powerful and is the greatest empire of the 5 empires, just like an Amarrian.
5) You get annoyed when people want to prove you otherwise, just like an Amarrian.
Are you sure you're not an Amarrian trapped in a
Caldari's body?
I still accept your apology though, at least that's one thing you have over my race, at least you apologise when you're finally proven wrong...
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Counsulut
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Posted - 2005.02.08 23:50:00 -
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You have got appriciate the irnoy
What the Amarrian empire lacks in Amarrians, they more than make up for with Cladari sympathiers.
We Khanid are true Amarrian through and through, even our slaves know their place. Doriam would do well to learn from our example
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Brother Edward
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Posted - 2005.02.09 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mariah Lawsara
2) You believe that anyone who doesn't believe in this so-called 'Maker' is souless and does not deserve his favour, just like an Amarrian.
This is not true, ALL men of every race has a soul, for God made them ALL. They do deserve His favor and His grace but to recieve them they must accept him.
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3) You are racist and hate everyone that belongs to a particular race or culture that isn't your own, just like an Amarrian.
Again an untruth, you attribute your condition to all Amarr and miss the trueness of our faith. We should HATE no one, only evil is to be hated. How can we hate them and still hope to save them?
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4) You think your race is all-powerful and is the greatest empire of the 5 empires, just like an Amarrian.
This is only partically true. We are not "all powerful", only God is. However we are the greatest of the Empires, the oldest and largest.
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5) You get annoyed when people want to prove you otherwise, just like an Amarrian.
Again you place a falsehood and try to display it as a general truth. Why should I or any Amarr be annoyed that they are proven wrong on a matter, we are but human and will make mistakes. It is through mistakes that we learn and grow. God uses our mistakes to teach us lessons we need to better serve him. Annoyed? I rejoice when I leanr more and it allows me to draw closer to God.
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I still accept your apology though, at least that's one thing you have over my race, at least you apologise when you're finally proven wrong...
And you end with yet another untruth and over generalization. After all what is repentance but saying we are sorry?
Sister Mariah, you have allowed the devil to whisper in your ears and you have eaten of the lies told about our people. You accept them at face value now, accept the supposed good that others offer at face value as well. You want to world to believe that generalizations about others are false and wrong but about Amarr are correct. The corruption of your soul mares the beauty God has given you.
Repent before God and turn away from your attacks upon your people. Return to God and embrace his forgiveness. Time is short and soon your heart will be to hard and you will be unable to accept the love God is offering.
Mariah, it is time to come home......
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.09 10:52:00 -
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1) You believe in a higher diety, just like an Amarrian (This 'Maker' guy that nobody else has heard of...).
As do all Caldari.
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The matter was solved during the Morning of Reasoning, when during a morning meeting of the Chief Executive Panel the warmonger corporations forced the CEOs of the other corporations to perform the Tea Maker Ceremony. The CEOs had to drink poisoned tea; if the Maker looked favorably upon them they would be saved, otherwise their crimes would be confirmed by their deaths. They all died and the warmonger corporations (the current mega corporations) split the assets of the fallen corporations between them and escalated to total war.
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DUI BET
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Posted - 2005.02.09 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: DUI BET on 09/02/2005 12:21:40
Originally by: Nero Scuro
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The matter was solved during the Morning of Reasoning, when during a morning meeting of the Chief Executive Panel the warmonger corporations forced the CEOs of the other corporations to perform the Tea Maker Ceremony. The CEOs had to drink poisoned tea; if the Maker looked favorably upon them they would be saved, otherwise their crimes would be confirmed by their deaths. They all died and the warmonger corporations (the current mega corporations) split the assets of the fallen corporations between them and escalated to total war.
Nero, you bloody idiot!
That 'Maker' wasn't referring to some higher deity! That 'Maker' was referring to the guy who made the poisoned tea, the TEA MAKER! You honestly thought that some guy who created poison tea for corporation CEOs was some kind of God?? If the Teamaker looked upon the CEO favourably, then they would not have been given poisoned tea, they would only think they had been given poisoned tea.
How can you be Caldari if you thought it was referring to a higher deity??
My god...I can't believe this idiocy, someone call a doctor...
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.09 17:00:00 -
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(OOC -  Whoops, did I ever screw up there... Dammit! I wanna Caldari God, though! Makes hating things easier...)
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.02.09 17:25:00 -
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(( Funny thing about Caldari is that they need no real reason to pick on others, they're spiteful buggers with a mild case of xenophobia  )
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.02.09 17:55:00 -
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( Funny thing about Caldari is that they need no real reason to pick on others, they're spiteful buggers with a mild case of xenophobia )
(OOC - Good point, good point... But seriously, is there any OTHER God out there in EVE that hates Amarrians? Or is there way to twist the Amarr God into hating Amarrians? C'mon, throw me a bone. =P)
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2005.02.09 18:22:00 -
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(OOC:Well, you could always start a cult, Sansha Kilokevin or whatever his bloody name is did...)
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.02.09 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
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( Funny thing about Caldari is that they need no real reason to pick on others, they're spiteful buggers with a mild case of xenophobia )
(OOC - Good point, good point... But seriously, is there any OTHER God out there in EVE that hates Amarrians? Or is there way to twist the Amarr God into hating Amarrians? C'mon, throw me a bone. =P)
(OOC - You could join the Blood Raiders, but I don't think that's quite what you got in line. I think you are doing fine as it is, taking a anti-Amarr stance from the view of a staunch Caldari patriot. Keep up the good work!)
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.02.09 21:19:00 -
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(ooc: you have a caldari God. He is a dualistic entity known as ISK and The State. :P)
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