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Mazer
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.03.04 08:00:00 -
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On numerous occasions I've been in a fleet that was ready to engage another fleet and one side ends up running away or disengaging because "we're going to get hotdropped", or "they out-gun us", or "we don't have anything to counter their ECM/Logi". I think EVE needs to introduce a matchmaking system that allows players to challenge others or sign up for "PVP slots" in a predetermined manner that makes it fair for both sides. These opposing fleets could have access to a temporary deadspace pocket that only allows those on the list. I'm tired of playing the "ship-up" game, or having people worrying about if we're going to get dropped on. I'd just like to PVP and test my fleet vs. another fleet without taking into account the "fairness" of the fight that so many people worry about.
You could have different brackets; frigs, cruisers, etc... or do a system similar to the alliance tournament. I'm all for the random encounters and leroying into the great unknown but I wouldn't mind just signing up for a fight sometime and blowing the hell out of some ships without somebody leaving system because one side doesn't feel like they have a fighting chance.
There's no satisfaction without action. Win or lose, its better to fight than to have not fought at all. 
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Imigo Montoya
Hysterically Unforgiving
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.03.04 08:48:00 -
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I do like the idea of a matchmaking style feature - more pew pew means more ships go boom which is always good. Exact details of how this is worked out would be up to CCP, but EVE is built around the construction and destruction of ships.
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Baaldor
Igneus Auctorita
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.03.04 11:21:00 -
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Oh god no, get on the test server if you want to test your fleet fits.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.03.04 12:00:00 -
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A "matchmaking system" has nothing to do with EVE fleet combat, or piracy, or suicide ganking, or roaming gangs,or etc etc.
If you want to organize "arena stile" duels you can start a matchmaking service for interested players or lobby the Assembly Forum to get an "Arena" feature where players enter combat for prizes (it could be a nice unique feature for low sec, back alley blood sports) but it should in no way touch the oher forms of combat.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.03.04 12:05:00 -
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No, that would go against everything EVE is.
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Tyrehl
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.03.04 14:30:00 -
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HAahahahahahahaha, hell no
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Miasmic Truth
In Pennae of Mors
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Posted - 2011.03.04 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: Miasmic Truth on 04/03/2011 15:14:01
I think itĘs a great idea, this doesnĘt eliminate or change the rest of the game as the others seem to think, just a tournament style fights, maybe team and single ranking system to go along with it. If you try to warp out or go out of range while the fight is in progress you go pop.
It would be a way for people to really test their skills without worry about 10 more of their friends jumping in suddenly to slaughter you. That part of the game is all well and good and I am not saying change a thing about that, but itĘs not satisfying. Also as mentioned it would definitely stimulate the ship Destruction/Building cycle.
Also it will give you a chance to pvp without having to spend 4 hours trying to find one or two ships to actully fight.
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Max Kolonko
Caldari
Worm Nation
Ash Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.04 16:07:00 -
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errrr.... no?
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4C 4F 5645
Rogue Drone Systems
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Posted - 2011.03.04 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: 4C 4F 5645 on 04/03/2011 16:13:56
It's a horrible ideea, there should never be instances in EvE. You might as well be asking for separate servers  .
EvE is about PvP for a reason and with consequences. Fights that don't matter have no place in it, that's what Sisi is for.
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Centri Sixx
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Posted - 2011.03.04 16:24:00 -
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Okay, but for consistency ban the alliance tournament, and the 4x4 one at Fanfest.
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Miasmic Truth
Minmatar
In Pennae of Mors
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Posted - 2011.03.04 17:33:00 -
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If the fight doesnĘt matter to you then why do you care you donĘt have to participate? ItĘs not game breaking in anyway its just creating one more venue for pvp.
People are not going to stop pirating in low sec, care bears are not going to stop flying through it. So what exactly is the problem? Saying Hey thatĘs a bad idea is rubbish, if you think itĘs a bad idea explain yourself or donĘt bother, and further what does any of that have to do with WOW?
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.03.04 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Bagehi on 04/03/2011 17:44:13
Then form an arena fight. Nothing to stop you. CCP doesn't have to put anything new in the game to do this.
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Oen''Gus
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Posted - 2011.03.04 18:20:00 -
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There's something called test server especially for that. Don't make this game like world of warcraft please!
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Jaik7
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Posted - 2011.03.04 21:35:00 -
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try starting a channel that is specificly designed to hook up duelists/gangs. no new feature needed.
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Maximus Trollus
Amarr
The Village Idiots
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Posted - 2011.03.04 21:49:00 -
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the shortbus to WoW is just waiting around the corner, if you hurry you might still catch it...
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Jaik7
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Posted - 2011.03.04 22:02:00 -
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i apologize for on behalf of everyone for the rage against "wowtards", whether they want me to or not. we don't want this feature because it is too much like the combat system in other mmos.
other mmos tend to be designed so that only consensual combat is allowed through use of a challenge system like you are proposing. people are scared that this new idea would take away the total immersion that people love about eve. its hard to explain.
in eve online, you are at risk every minute of every hour that you happen to be outside of the station. this makes it feel real to the participants. i don't know why, but we seem to like being threatened with mortal terror.
eve online sells itself on being "unscripted". the duels you propse smell like a script.
most of all, we're scared that if this gets inserted, then it will eventually become the only way to pvp, because enough people cried. i know YOU are not suggesting that, but you are opening the door for someone else to.
i canot support your idea. i apologize for the rude guys who share my point of view, though i do not excuse their actions.
is it so hard to keep a civil tone guys?
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.03.04 22:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Jaik7
is it so hard to keep a civil tone guys?
A bit... yes. When you hear the same idea over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again (even though we have a well known, very efficient 3rd party search function (Eve-search!)) the urge to flame/bait/ridicule/explode someone becomes nigh irresistible.
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Maximus Trollus
Amarr
The Village Idiots
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Posted - 2011.03.04 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: ShahFluffers
Originally by: Jaik7
is it so hard to keep a civil tone guys?
A bit... yes. When you hear the same idea over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again (even though we have a well known, very efficient 3rd party search function (Eve-search!)) the urge to flame/bait/ridicule/explode someone becomes nigh irresistible.
spot on...
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Artius
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Posted - 2011.03.05 02:59:00 -
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Edited by: Artius on 05/03/2011 02:59:47
I agree with jaik
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Mazer
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.03.05 03:01:00 -
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I've read all the replies and I understand where a lot of people are coming from as far as the immersion factor goes and how this would foul all of that up. I guess I'm just tired of being bored when I log on because nobody's willing to fight or a fleet so overpowers another that nothing happens. I realize there's a lot more I could do on my part to sate my boredom as some suggested, and I just might try to start something such as an arena channel.
Obviously some people have very strong feelings about this game. For all the trolls and WoW haters that posted; there seems to be no gap in maturity level between you and the average teenager who does play WoW.
I appreciate all the people that were civil.
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