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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.04 23:23:00 -
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Apologies but this bond has already been filled in-game. However, the reserve list is still open for 15 bil.
Introduction.
Good Evening to everybody. I'm looking to raise 15-billion isk in a 3-month bond for my Jita station trading. The bond will pay 15% interest per month and if it does well, I will hope to pay out some kind of bonus again to my investors.
Performance audit will hopefully be carried out by Varo Jan, subject to enough api data being successfully downloaded since last Saturday.
By way of introduction/re-introudction, I am a Jita station trader and an Objectivist - I'm a big fan of Ayn Rand and free-market capitalism. I find markets fascinating and almost all of my in-game time is spent analysing or trading in Jita markets. I've recently taken up small-scale frigate pvp to relax from market combat.
Outline Past Loans Past Audits Failed Bond NAV Business Plan
Outline
15 Bil Bond 3 month duration 15% interest Purpose - Jita station trading
Past Loans
1. 750mil - 1 bil repaid, VV audited 2. 1bil - 1.3 bil repaid. Varo Jan audited. 3. 2bil - 2.62 bil repaid.. Bond repayment was late, 1.6 bil repaid as compensation for total 4.22 bil repayment. Audited by Lord Arbalest. 4. 4bil - 7.2 bil repaid over 3 months, of which 1.4 bil was a bonus payment. Audited by VV.
Audits
4 previous audits, viewable in the links above.
Failed Bond
Bond 3 failed due to computer malfunction and was repaid 7 months later. A compensation offer and apology was accepted by my investors.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.04 23:25:00 -
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Reserved for NAV and investor details
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.03.04 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Liberty Eternal
4 previous audits, viewable in the links above.
Someone has to say it.
4 offers, 3 auditors... SCAM, auditm collateral, Ji Sama alt!!!
Good luck though.
P.S. No, I'm not available for an audit. Nothing against you, just don't have time.
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Mistress Reina
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Posted - 2011.03.04 23:42:00 -
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2b transfer
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.04 23:44:00 -
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2 bil received.
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Saidin Thor
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Posted - 2011.03.04 23:57:00 -
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Iskies transferred. Put them in the vault and hope they breed!
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.04 23:59:00 -
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Isk received, thanks Saidin.
& lol - I paid a billion isk for this audit and none of you are waiting for it!
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Saidin Thor
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Posted - 2011.03.05 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Saidin Thor on 05/03/2011 00:26:27 No worries, I'm definitely interested in the results of the audit, and it would definitely play a part in any future investing. That said, scamming this venture would be stupid, and you seem smart enough to see that. The only real risk I perceive for this bond is some outside influence suddenly changing something, which wouldn't be shown in an audit anyways.
~edit~ fixed because I accidentally a word.
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Strrog
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.03.05 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: Strrog on 05/03/2011 02:43:27 Good day LE
Will log and send iskies.
2 billion sent.
GOOD LUCK
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.05 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Strrog Edited by: Strrog on 05/03/2011 02:43:27 Good day LE
Will log and send iskies.
2 billion sent.
GOOD LUCK
Thanks Strrog, confirming receipt of 2 billion isk.
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Myra2007
Millstone Industries
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Posted - 2011.03.05 04:22:00 -
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Not to be rude but is this a parody thread? --
Originally by: Professor Slocombe
I will only buy tickets if the prize is your stuff and you leave Eve. Forever. You irritating self obsessed cretin.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.05 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Myra2007 Not to be rude but is this a parody thread?
Nope. Check the links, they all work 
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John Galt
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Posted - 2011.03.05 05:10:00 -
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Thanks for looking after my money while I'm gone in basic.
10b sent
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.05 05:17:00 -
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Any time John, confirming receipt of 10 bil.
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Strrog
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.03.06 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Myra2007 Not to be rude but is this a parody thread?
This is not a parody thread... go post that in EVEBANK... where i am still trying to fish out something of my 6 bill.
LE I heard you got a problem with an auditor he is not reachable at this time, its fine just keep it posted.
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.03.06 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Misty McGinnity on 06/03/2011 23:07:51
Originally by: Liberty Eternal Isk received, thanks Saidin.
& lol - I paid a billion isk for this audit and none of you are waiting for it!
Tell me something, what % of your bond profits was that 1b isk, would seem you spent 3 months trading very hard only to hand it all over (1b isk) to an "lolauditer".
tbh to invest 1b in an audit, which is a half measure at best is pretty stupid way to spend isk, considering the size of the bond you issued.
edit: grammar
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Cheque Please
Hot Like Mexico
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Posted - 2011.03.06 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Misty McGinnity Edited by: Misty McGinnity on 06/03/2011 23:07:51
Originally by: Liberty Eternal Isk received, thanks Saidin.
& lol - I paid a billion isk for this audit and none of you are waiting for it!
Tell me something, what % of your bond profits was that 1b isk, would seem you spent 3 months trading very hard only to hand it all over (1b isk) to an "lolauditer".
tbh to invest 1b in an audit, which is a half measure at best is pretty stupid way to spend isk, considering the size of the bond you issued.
edit: grammar
shh, he's one of them roleplayers. Don't tap the glass.
(just messin with you Liberty ) --- RL Meeting w/ Chribba
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.03.07 01:46:00 -
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Honestly 1b for an audit? 
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.07 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Misty McGinnity Honestly 1b for an audit? 
It's a performance audit, which is a time-consuming job and quite a bit more complicated than it might first sound [not everyone has the skill sets]. Anyway, I apologise for the delay, I assume Varo just has some other priorities to deal with right now so all I can do is wait.
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.03.07 03:27:00 -
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Edited by: Misty McGinnity on 07/03/2011 03:27:46
Originally by: Liberty Eternal
Originally by: Misty McGinnity Honestly 1b for an audit? 
It's a performance audit, which is a time-consuming job and quite a bit more complicated than it might first sound [not everyone has the skill sets]. Anyway, I apologise for the delay, I assume Varo just has some other priorities to deal with right now so all I can do is wait.
Please give a % of your take on the last bond Vs the 1b for the audit.
in other words, where did this 1b come from? you already paid out 15% on top of the principal, surely this audit can't have come from your earnings over & above the 15% interest?
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.07 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Misty McGinnity
Please give a % of your take on the last bond Vs the 1b for the audit.
in other words, where did this 1b come from? you already paid out 15% on top of the principal, surely this audit can't have come from your earnings over & above the 15% interest?
From my final accounts
Source: EVEWalletAware, Tranquility, this thread
Trading Accounts
Total Purchases: 276.8 billion Total Sales: 301.2 billion
Trading Profit: 24.4 billion
Non-Trade Expenses
Loan Interest: 3.2 billion Audit: 1 billion Phlanthropy: 1.5 billion Ships: 250 mil PVP Character: 3 billion PLEX: 1 billion Implants & Skillbooks: 300 mil
Total Non-Trade Expenses: 10.25
NAV Statement
Stock: 100 mil Sell Orders: 5 Bil Cash: 7 Bil Alt Character: 3 Bil Ships: 450 mil
Total NAV: 15.5 billion Starting NAV: 2 billion
Net profit
As increase in NAV: 13.5 billion
So 7.4% is the answer to your question
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.03.07 03:33:00 -
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how many accounts do you have?
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.07 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Misty McGinnity how many accounts do you have?
I have 2 accounts.
Main account: Liberty Eternal, alts are Liberty Child and Skynet2030
Second account: Major Deninard, purchased pvp character called Maximus Kentai on 26th February, and an unskilled alt called Zara Aideron.
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.03.07 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: Liberty Eternal
Originally by: Misty McGinnity how many accounts do you have?
I have 2 accounts.
Main account: Liberty Eternal, alts are Liberty Child and Skynet2030
Second account: Major Deninard, purchased pvp character called Maximus Kentai on 26th February, and an unskilled alt called Zara Aideron.
2? but you only had 1 audited by VV here from your bond 4:
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I agreed taking an audit about the available data off Liberty Eternal, the Investors knowing in advance how he had an interruption of game play for some months (which led to a delayed bond pay back) and that he is in possession of one account as of now.
begs the question.
what is the birthdate of the 2nd account's characters, not the ones you bought, in particular this one: Major Deninard, with whom you bought the PVE account.
can you provide eveboard links of all of these characters? to prove there birthdates are after your last audit?
will both accounts be included in the current audit?
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Major Deninard
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Posted - 2011.03.07 04:05:00 -
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Edited by: Major Deninard on 07/03/2011 04:07:07
Posting on Major Deninard to confirm I own him.
Originally by: Misty McGinnity
2? but you only had 1 audited by VV here from your bond 4:
begs the question.
what is the birthdate of the 2nd account's characters, not the ones you bought, in particular this one: Major Deninard, with whom you bought the PVE account.
Birthdate is 6th February 2011, after the audit you refer to which was posted on 6th December 2010.
Originally by: Misty McGinnity can you provide eveboard links of all of these characters? to prove there birthdates are after your last audit?
Liberty Eternal Liberty Child Skynet2030
Major DeninardCreated 6th February 05:51:00 Maximus Kentai Traded Feb 26th, see link Zara Aideron
I mentioned here
Originally by: Libert Eternal Second Account
I opened a second account two days ago. This will be a Gallente-based trader and pilot. I will put up his name once he is finished moving around sorting things out.
Originally by: Misty McGinnity will both accounts be included in the current audit?
It's a performance audit so the second account will only be very briefly looked at because all my financial trading occurs on Liberty Eternal which is where the emphasis will be.
In the event that the performance audit doesn't cover the second account satisfactorily, I will be happy to get it fully audited as a second audit.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.07 04:11:00 -
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Edited by: Liberty Eternal on 07/03/2011 04:11:44 please ignore, double posted instead of editing
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.03.07 04:14:00 -
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tbh, i think you should have the 2nd account fully checked & audited. as you have stated that it is a gallente trader
even though audits can very easily be circumvented, and are a half measure at best.
thanks for your answers.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.07 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: Misty McGinnity tbh, i think you should have the 2nd account fully checked & audited. as you have stated that it is a gallente trader
Good point, I'll see how the audit comes back and if it's insufficient I'll do that.
Originally by: Misty McGinnity
thanks for your answers.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.08 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Liberty Eternal on 08/03/2011 02:08:59 Just a quick update as unfortunately I've still not heard from Varo Jan. I'm working on the assumption that Varo has other priorities to deal with and so I'll wait until the end of the week and if there's been no progress, I will seek an audit from a different auditor.
I've evemailed my investors to update them. I've started trading and I will calculate interest payments from Friday 4th March.
Investors
Mistress Reina - 2 billion Saidin Thor - 1 billion Strrog - 2 billion John Galt - 10 billion
Interest Schedule
1. Monday April 4th - 2,250 mil payment 2. Wednesday May 4th - 2,250 mil payment 3. Saturday June 4th - 2,250 mil payment + Repayment of Bond
Interest Due per month
Mistress Reina - 300 mil Saidin Thor - 150 mil Strrog - 300 mil John Galt - 1,500 mil
Terms & Conditions
Waiting for Audit:
Investors may take back possession of their isk while waiting for the audit to be set up if they wish to.
Early withdrawls:
Investors may withdraw some or all of their isk at any time without penalty or fee if they need to, and will be paid interest calculated up to the day of withdrawl. A few hours or at most a day or two will be required to trade out of any position.
Audit & Security:
If at any time during the life of this bond an investor requests an audit or security check, they may do so and I will happily have a third party carry one out.
Data Release:
At the end of this bond I will publicly release all of my trading data.
Known Auditor Check:
Any established auditors who wish to check my accounts may take my full api at any time.
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.03.08 03:19:00 -
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tbh, i wouldn't let that nerd (varo jen)go anywhere near your accounts.
he is all over Brock's thread whilst ignoring you & this audit.
What does that tell you? hes too busy being a butthurt nerd, than helping you out.
--> get another auditer or better yet don't bother with it, you started already so who cares.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.08 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Misty McGinnity tbh, i wouldn't let that nerd (varo jen)go anywhere near your accounts.
he is all over Brock's thread whilst ignoring you & this audit.
What does that tell you? hes too busy being a butthurt nerd, than helping you out.
--> get another auditer or better yet don't bother with it, you started already so who cares.
Calling someone a nerd is a compliment, not an insult 
Varo evemailed me an hour ago and he is looking into some software problems. I've made a contractual commitment to my investors regarding the audit and one or two delays aren't a major issue as long as we get there in the end.
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.03.08 03:45:00 -
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contractual?, lighten up champ its a video game 
i said "Butthurt nerd", big difference.
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.03.10 05:51:00 -
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so hows that contractual agreement coming along?
has vero jen put his head in the sand?
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.10 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Misty McGinnity so hows that contractual agreement coming along?
has vero jen put his head in the sand?
You're very keen for someone who doesn't like audits Are you secretly angling for a job as an auditor?
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.03.10 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Liberty Eternal
Originally by: Misty McGinnity so hows that contractual agreement coming along?
has vero jen put his head in the sand?
You're very keen for someone who doesn't like audits Are you secretly angling for a job as an auditor?
nope just trolling our mate ;0
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Krythas
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Posted - 2011.03.10 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: Misty McGinnity so hows that contractual agreement coming along?
has vero jen put his head in the sand?
OMG ! He's an emu now ??
You and your Aussie pets !
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.03.11 01:09:00 -
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Edited by: Misty McGinnity on 11/03/2011 01:11:02
Originally by: Misty McGinnity so hows that contractual agreement coming along?
has vero jen put his head in the sand?
breaker was "contracted" later then vero & has finished his audit here: Linkage
suggest you use him, this vero jeb guy is too slow imo.
edit: & it only cost 200m not the forementioned 1b
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.03.14 00:27:00 -
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bump still no "contractual" audit.
is this happening or not?
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.14 00:30:00 -
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Dear Varo, it seems that you don't enjoy auditing me the way you used to. Just recently, you've hardly been communicating with me at all - I'm worried about the bond, I need you around to help me raise it. The investors miss you, we hope that whatever you're doing, it makes you happy. If you're going to leave, I'll have to move on and try to find someone else - please don't be hurt. I hope you think of me - we can make this work, but we need to communicate more so I know where our [business] relationship is heading.
Yours,
Liberty
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.03.14 00:34:00 -
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Hey Liberty, I heard Varo hasn't been over in a while and well..
I have a couch if you need it my friend, just until you pull yourself together. I know how this is and I just want to tell you that I'm here for you. We'll hit the chats and find you a nice auditor, you'll see.
You're too good for him anyway.
-Tutskii
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.03.14 00:40:00 -
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Troll win
Flawless victory!
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Companion Qube
Minmatar Electron Conservation Inc
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Posted - 2011.03.14 06:21:00 -
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Does anyone else find it terribly interesting that "John Galt" is providing the lion's share of the investment funds? I mean, seriously, did none of you put 2 and 2 together? |

Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2011.03.14 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Companion Qube Does anyone else find it terribly interesting that "John Galt" is providing the lion's share of the investment funds? I mean, seriously, did none of you put 2 and 2 together?
Who is John Galt?å
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.03.14 06:56:00 -
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let me google that for you .jpg
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Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2011.03.14 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Misty McGinnity let me google that for you .jpg
I take it you missed the link in my post?
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.03.14 07:16:00 -
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ah huh, i see you have hidden a link behind an obscure ASCII symbol.
do you feel clever now or more nerdish?
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2011.03.14 07:34:00 -
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Edited by: Cyaxares II on 14/03/2011 07:40:29
Originally by: Companion Qube Does anyone else find it terribly interesting that "John Galt" is providing the lion's share of the investment funds? I mean, seriously, did none of you put 2 and 2 together?
If Liberty got an alt in TTI, he has to post his answers to the application questionnaires asap for great lulz.
edit: couldn't find the questionnaire on their site, so here it is.
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Petyr Baelich
Valar Morghulis. Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.03.14 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Cyaxares II Edited by: Cyaxares II on 14/03/2011 07:40:29
Originally by: Companion Qube Does anyone else find it terribly interesting that "John Galt" is providing the lion's share of the investment funds? I mean, seriously, did none of you put 2 and 2 together?
If Liberty got an alt in TTI, he has to post his answers to the application questionnaires asap for great lulz.
edit: couldn't find the questionnaire on their site, so here it is.
You have to click on the "apply now" button and it sends that to you. App works well for filtering the people they want in their corp, as all apps should. TTI is one of the oldest corps in EVE, going strong since day 1 of beta.
For what it's worth I know both LE and JG and they're not the same person. LE hasn't even applied to TTI, (although he's a frequent guest in their public channel) as far as I know and I still run their website/forums so I see all apps.
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Alain Kinsella
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.03.16 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: Petyr Baelich
You have to click on the "apply now" button and it sends that to you. App works well for filtering the people they want in their corp, as all apps should. TTI is one of the oldest corps in EVE, going strong since day 1 of beta.
Actually that's an impressive questionnaire, which I've now bookmarked. Reminded me of a similar one our old GM asked us to submit with new characters (It gave him guidance on what he could do to play with each character's morals, as well as get a good idea when each other's will clash).
Back on topic, wanted to wish LE luck on the latest venture. Always nice to see different methodologies work out - even if I don't agree with parts.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.16 19:13:00 -
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Thanks Alain.
John Galt has been in the game since Beta, he's not my alt.
Just an update on the performance audit - for private reasons Varo Jan has been unable to complete the audit. I've spoken to him and we decided to cancel the audit contract - Varo has returned all my isk and even a little bit extra as a gooodwill gesture, so I thank him for that.
I'm going to seek a performance audit with another auditor. Given how busy VV is and the almost complete lack of qualified auditors, I think realistically it may be April/May before it is actually up on the thread. I will keep my investors updated and update the thread when relevant. Please be patient! Unfortunately this is just one of those things 
Finally, I'd just like to say that it was not Varo's [or anyone's] fault. I still have confidence in VJ and will be happy to use him as an auditor again in the future just as soon as he is able to again.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.04.04 23:24:00 -
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All interest has been paid to investors.
I'm currently reviewing accounting methodology with a view to improving it, both in terms of data presentation and accuracy. This may lead to a slight delay in getting the figures up but I think the improvement will be worth it.
Company report will follow after the accounts are up.
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Strrog
Caldari Zero Excavations
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Posted - 2011.04.05 06:13:00 -
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Sorry i think i reported this thread by mistake lmao, attn moderators do not do anything here.
Just wanted to confirm the interest recieved of 300 mill.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.04.05 22:19:00 -
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Thank-you for confirming Strrog. Just as a side-note, I would have liked John Galt to confirm the large interest sum paid, however he is away on basic army training so I don't think he will be able to.
As noted above, I've been reviewing my accounts to improve them and make them more accurate. Making accurate accounts is more challenging than one might think, so here are my notes for improvement so far:
Improvements and changes in account system -
1) I'm moving to a monthly calendar account system for my trading accounts. This will be easier to write-up, more accurate and historically verifiable and consistent because I can check more easily through EVEWalletAware history if I just divide into calendar months. I currently take the accounts at intervals set by the interest payment dates - ie 4th Feb-4th March, etc - this is needlessly confusing, particularly as I sometimes took the data half-way through the day, chopping off some of the transactions and thus throwing the figures.
2) I will be combining all data from 4 EVEWalletAware data stores - Liberty's personal journal, Free Market Blue Team and two account alts, to give a combined figure. This will be easier to do on a calendar basis, and I will put up historical records of the trading accounts for reference. I previously left out some of the smaller figures for speed - I will now include them all for accuracy.
3) I will give separate Main accounts and Trade accounts from now on. I previously tried to combine them in different ways but this is virtually impossible because NAV statements are taken in a different way, at a different time, and to a lower degree of accuracy than trading figures.
Non-trade Expenses and contract trades will be placed on the Main accounts. Final figures for expenses and turnover will be given on the Main accounts.
4) All profit figures from now on will be given only as NAV increase. "Trading profit" is unreliable and impossible to calculate accurately because I can't take historical NAV statements with complete accuracy. I will no longer be trying to give a figure for "trading profit"
5) I will introduce some performance statistics to allow analysis of the business and weak/strong points that may be of interest. These will be tax/fees, number of markets traded in, Capital employed, profitability, order spaces utilised. I will add or remove performance statistics depending on how things work out.
The main change is the movement to a calendar/monthyl system - this creates a little data crossover but will make things easier from now on. 
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.04.05 22:24:00 -
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Trading Accounts for March 2011. Covers March 1st to March 31st 2011, source EVEWalletaware.
Notes: For this month's figures [ie March] several days of trading at the beginning of the month are be included that were also included in the last bond.
In addition, several days of trading that have so far occurred in April will not be put on to the trading accounts until April's figures are put up next month. It's just a lot easier to do it this way, and it makes historical comparison/accuracy a lot easier as well.
Trade Purchases 126,608,875,767 isk
Trade Sales 129,999,086,711 isk
Balance +3,390,210,943
This is the tradng figure for the month of March and it includes all market transactions undertaken and includes my two alts and alt corporation.
Please note that the trading balance does not really mean a lot, it is included for reference.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.04.05 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Liberty Eternal on 05/04/2011 23:22:56
Main Accounts for month of March
Covers March 1st to March 31st 2011. Sources: EVEWalletAware and Tranquility Server [wallet journal, contract history].
Expenses
Non-Trade Expenses
PLEX for Japan [4 PLEX + 200mil] 1,628,000,000 Level 5 Personal Learning Implants 537,570,000 PLEX for account subscription 349,900,000 Character Transfer costs [2PLEX] 700,000,000 Character Value write-down 400,000,000 Loan Interest Payments 2,350,000,000
Total Non-Trade Expenses 5,965,470,000
Trade Expenses
Trade Purchases 126,608,875,767 isk Contract - Item Purchases 129,976,000 [70 mil of which sent through player donation] Contract - Fees and Rewards 3,019,800 Broker's Fees 345,860,934 Sales Tax 95,059,607
Total Trade Expenses 127,182,792,100
Total Expenses for March 133,148,262,100
Income
Non-Trade Income
Character Sale 2,600,000,000 Audit Fee Refund & Goodwill Payment - 1,100,000,000 Small loan interest - 10,000,000
Total Non-Trade Income - 3,710,000,000
Trade Income
Trade Sales 129,999,086,711
Total Trade Income 129,999,086,711
Total Income 133,709,086,711
Net Profit 560,824,000
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.04.06 00:11:00 -
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NAV Statement at 00:01 GMT on April 6th 2011.
Source: Tranquility Server, Wallet and Item box data, EVEboard - will update stock values when EVEcommander account is reactivated
Active Assets
Cash 10,016,945,852 Market Escrow 10,015,109,840 Sell Orders 9,508,222,128 Stock for Trade 3,000,000,000 [nominal estimate] Personal Ships 1,500,000
Net Asset Value - 32,541,777,820
NAV Increase from last NAV statement [exc loan]
NAV figure for net proft 1,000,000,000
Liabilities
Loans due at bond end 16,000,000,000 Interest Liabilities due by bond end 4,800,000,000 Plex due by bond end [2 units] 700,000,000 [est] Audit fees due by bond end 1,500,000,000 [est]
Total liabilities due by bond end 23,000,000,000
Current NAV minus Liabilities 9,541,777,820
Note on Passive Assets [not counted as NAV]
Character Value Liberty Eternal [nominal; will never be sold] 3,475,853,750 Implants plugged in 150,000,000 [est] Implants waiting to be plugged in 537,570,000 Non-trade stockpiles [ie dispersed] 200,000,000 [est] Skill book value [injected] source: Eveboard 312,279,500
Passive Assets Total 4,675,703,250
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.04.06 00:25:00 -
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Ok - the nerd-binge is over. I will put the account history data up next month as there is enough info up for now. This will just be a brief summary of historical data, but re-formatted for a calendar-monthly history.
Same goes with the performance stats - main thing is that the format change went ok this month, I'll develop it and hopefully find a way to summarise and reduce the info for next month.
Company Report
Trade performance this month was average. Mainly because I took about a two-week break from trading to avoid burnout. I was hoping to take a two-week break between bonds but this one got started with a life of its own so I missed the chance. There was also the bond changeover which always slows down trading for about a week.
Thus, trading was slow for the month as a whole. Trade turnover was 6 billion less than for February. Gross profits [which I now realise there is no figure for ] were only around 6 billion for the month.
This would have been ok, but there were uusual expenses this month - 1.6bil plex for japan, 500 mil for lvl 5 trading implants, a 1.1 billion expense and write-down for the sale of Maximus Kentai, and finally loan interest jumped up to 2.35 due to the larger bond value.
Additional Investor for 1 billion isk
I've taken on an additional investor for 1 billion isk, taking the bond value up to 16 bil. Hian Yammamotto is the investor, a friend from in-game who was looking for an investment on MD. I couldn't find a good one that was available so took the isk myself as it was a friend and only 1 billion. Hian's interest conditions are the same as everyone else's, except that this month only 10% was paid instead of 15% due to late entry.
Next Month
I've been experimenting and improving my trade system and next month I hope to see an increase in turnover, hopefully a large increase in trading profits and a massive reduction in expenses. This should combine to boost my NAV by 5-10 billion if all goes well.
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Saidin Thor
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Posted - 2011.04.06 00:40:00 -
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Also confirming interest payment for this month.
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Saidin Thor
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Posted - 2011.05.02 00:01:00 -
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Confirming receipt of interest for the month of April.
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Strrog
Caldari Zero Excavations
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Posted - 2011.05.03 03:47:00 -
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confirming 300 mill interest received
Also would like to bring to attention that previous thread ID did not work had to find the thread manually and update link to the thread.
cheers
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.05.09 01:01:00 -
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Thanks Strrog - link re-sent.
Accounts were delayed this month as I transferred data to a google docs sheet here
Accounts are not fully accurate as some data remains to be entered, but they suffice to give a good impression for now as I don't want to wait any longer. Will finish off during the week.
Trade volume passed 200 billion isk turnover in the month of April, however profits remained low due to high expenses. Main aim for May is to get expenses down while increasing trade turnover safely past the 200 bil mark.
Also, a full performance audit has been arranged and VV is taking data as we speak. Audit is due to be up before this bond ends on June 4th 
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.06.04 09:55:00 -
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Edited by: Liberty Eternal on 04/06/2011 09:59:45 Thank you to all my investors and other participants in this bond, which has now completed and repaid successfully.
Trading was good but not exceptional - a small 5% bonus has been added to the 15% normal interest.
Repayments
Eventurer 2 bil + 20% = 2.4 billion Hian Yammamotto 1 bil + 20% = 1.2 billion John Galt 10 bil + 20% = 12 billion Saidin Thor 1 bil + 20% = 1.2 billion Strrog 2 bil + 20% = 2.4 billion
Total of 16 bil + 20% = 19.2 billion
Thanks once again to you all - performance audit from VV should be up on thread later today/tonight.
Same with all accounts and trade data release.
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Saidin Thor
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Posted - 2011.06.04 14:10:00 -
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Confirming receipt of principal + 20% interest.
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Hian Yammamotto
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Posted - 2011.06.04 20:09:00 -
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Confirming receipt of principal + 20% interest for both Hian and John.
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Strrog
Caldari Zero Excavations
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Posted - 2011.06.04 22:09:00 -
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Ya I am here to confirm principal plus 20% for last month paid in full.
Still waiting on the spot in the June bond ! :)
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Neem Karoli
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Posted - 2011.06.05 01:40:00 -
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I have 2 billion id like to invest send me an ingame message
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.06.05 15:14:00 -
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VV is currently stuck with some software problems that are delaying the audit publication.
However, the accounts and trade data release have been update:
Balance Sheet: Google Docs link
Income Statement: Same google docs, different tab
Daily Trade Graph: Same google docs, different tab
Market Data Release: Same google docs, different tab
Notes: Income statement is not accurate as there is no software that allows me to calculate the cost of sales - data given is for ssales and purchases turnover, and profit figure is difference between them
Markets Tab - this is trade data release for my main markets [2bil+ in sales] and gives purchases/sales figures for 68 markets - again, profit is not possible as I can't easily calculate cost of sales [as opposed to overall purchases]. Figures are for 3 calendar months March, April and May.
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Rafia Landras Audeles
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.05 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Liberty Eternal VV is currently stuck with some software problems that are delaying the audit publication.
However, the accounts and trade data release have been update:
Balance Sheet: Google Docs link
Income Statement: Same google docs, different tab
Daily Trade Graph: Same google docs, different tab
Market Data Release: Same google docs, different tab
Notes: Income statement is not accurate as there is no software that allows me to calculate the cost of sales - data given is for ssales and purchases turnover, and profit figure is difference between them
Markets Tab - this is trade data release for my main markets [2bil+ in sales] and gives purchases/sales figures for 68 markets - again, profit is not possible as I can't easily calculate cost of sales [as opposed to overall purchases]. Figures are for 3 calendar months March, April and May.
Your links are broken.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.06.05 15:31:00 -
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Sorry about that - the 4th one had a typo. Just repaired them and tried them all, they should all work fine now.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.05 15:46:00 -
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Liberty you got mail.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.05 22:34:00 -
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The audit is available in full graphical form at this location.
In the next hours, the investment will be imported in the Public Investments Archive and a stripped down EvE forum version of the audit will be posted.
It's suggested to look at the Vahrokh.com version since it has zoom for the graphics and much more.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.05 23:56:00 -
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Consulting
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Performance audit report for Liberty Eternal business proposal
This is Vaerah VahrokhaÆs analysis as of 2011-06-05 08:00 EvE Time. NEISIN code: GFTTIXXBO052. Official discussion: link to investment prospectus.
Public Audits Record (PAR) for this investment: backlink.
Tools used
EvE Wallet Aware jEveAssets EvEMeep EvE Asset Manager Vahrokh.com custom version of EvE Income Analyzer Eve Trader MicrosoftÖ Excel« Blender 3D => LuxRender Paint.NET => Bolt Bait Pack, DPY Plugins, MadJik Pack, Vandermotten Effects
Forewords about the Audit
Liberty Eternal is an high sec trader. He has succesfully started and completed the bond GFTTIXXBO052. By Liberty Eternal directions, this is a publicly disclosed performance report. Item names have not been removed.
Since the audit has been commisioned after the bond publication, market graphs only include historical data stored by the API from March 29 onwards. Assets data is a snapshot with no historical data so it may only include data from May 4 onwards. Since on May 4 the bond was already running, the first market snapshot includes the Investors capital.
May 4 assets and balance
(*) This amount includes the Investors principal for a total of 15B and interest. (**) This amount includes the Investors principal plus interests plus other liabilities.
Estimated grand total: 19.663 Billion ISK
Right before end of bond assets and balance
(*) This amount includes the Investors principal for a total of 15B and interest. (**) This amount includes the Investors principal plus interests plus other liabilities.
Estimated grand total: 30.659 Billion ISK
The above evaluations were made by using The Forge prices as reference.
Performance analysis
The following are some numbers about how the bond proceeded:
- Top value item bought for resale: 24.626B in buy orders, yielded to 25.388B sales.
- Broker fees paid: 1.045B. Total transaction taxes paid: 0.443B.
- Number of market transactions made: 56,130 (buy 13,141, sell 42,989).
- Total market turnover, including taxable income: 953.705B.
- Best markup per item: 137%, average for the top 10 items is 63%.
- The Investee traded 710 kinds of items. Total gross income has been 501.674B. Total gross expenses have been 452.030B. Total capital moved has been 953.705B. Gross profit has been 49.644B.
- NAV increase from the beginning of this audit to end of bond: 9.996B. This means that thanks to the bond, the Investee managed to increase his NAV by 156%.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.05 23:59:00 -
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Markets analysis
Follows a number of graphs that give a visual representation to the numbers above. The full size version is available by clicking on the pictures (only on the PAR web site). On the EvE forum, a thumbnail is shown, plus a link to the full resulution graph.
Graphs key: green = profit, red = loss, yellow = gross sales.
Daily sales amount, profits and losses Due to limitations of the software, the graph covers the last 30 days of the bond.
Full resolution graph
Top gross profit items The graph below shows the top gross profit items. Taxes are not calculated.
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Top most profitable products The graph below shows the top most profitable items in absolute value. The indicated efficiency is based on gross profit. I.e. the top item shows 143% (1.43), the performance analysis section above shows the net value: 137%.
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Top 15 most profitable products The graph below shows the top 15 most profitable items in absolute turnover value.
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Top most profitable stations The graph below shows the top most profitable stations.
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Top turnover markets The following graph shows the top turnover markets. All the values donÆt take into account taxes.
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Best selling items per station This graph shows the best selling items per station
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Trading hours This graph shows the trading hours and volume.
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Selling speed The following graphs show the selling speed for the top items. Each item has a line showing how many sold per given period.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.06 00:02:00 -
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Disclaimers
Due to stringent EvE API limitations, although the information provided to you on this document is obtained or compiled from sources believed to be reliable, Vahrokh Consulting cannot and does not guarantee the accuracy, validity, timeliness, or completeness of any information or data made available to you for any particular purpose. This Auditor is actively and passionately against any breach of privacy, in particular regarding in game mail API access. Therefore no information will ever be gathered and no audit will ever be released that will contain any element found by eavesdropping someone else's private communications. Neither the information nor any opinion contained in this document constitutes a solicitation or offer by Vahrokh Consulting or its affiliates to buy or sell any securities, assets or services.
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