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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 11:22:00 -
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So it's got bonuses for hybrids and drones...
Yet in PvP you never see Dominix using it's gun slots. It's usually Energy neuts and drone link augmentors.
And in PvE the hybrid turrets generally serve as a damage support for your drones.
What's the point of having Hybrid bonuses? Why not give it a bonus to Energy Destabilizers or up it's drone bonuses. Maybe give it more drone damage or allow the use of one or two extra drones?
I'm interested in other peoples thoughts on the subject. And please...I want to see a constructive conversation on this. Try to tone down the flaming.
Thanks.
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Dazram Two on 06/03/2011 11:29:34
Originally by: rampro Edited by: rampro on 06/03/2011 11:27:09 http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/45951-Sheild-Dominix-1300dps.htmlnullDrone augs in pvp ? thats a nono , its so good cuase its versatile :) a bonus to nuets would be bordering on the rediculous .
Why would you use a blaster fit dominix when you can use a hyperion or a megathron and get better results?
What I'm saying is the dominix focus is undeniably it's drone superiority and I'm questioning the relevance of its hybrid bonus.
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Patient 2428190 A PvE Domi should be using its hybrid bonus, as it is the best performance reason to use it over a 125m3 bandwidth drone cruiser.
And what about a PvP one?
There are clearly more effective options available for a PvP domi than a PvE one.
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Dazram Two on 06/03/2011 11:43:08
Originally by: rampro Ur fighting an active tank fit nuets , u need rr fit rr , u need dps fit guns...............
Removing the hybrid bonus and uping drone damage bonus negates the need for guns.
Thus allowing you to keep your DPS and allow for more flexibility in your high slots for all situations, pvp and pve.
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: rampro then it becomes op
Not really. Just makes it more vulnerable to Energy Transfers and Smartbombs.
If anything it becomes less powerful, as it's weaknesses are more amplified.
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Dazram Two on 06/03/2011 11:54:18
Originally by: rampro Dominix is fine :)
A matter of opinion I suppose.
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sai Hai
Originally by: Dazram Two Edited by: Dazram Two on 06/03/2011 11:43:08
Originally by: rampro Ur fighting an active tank fit nuets , u need rr fit rr , u need dps fit guns...............
Removing the hybrid bonus and uping drone damage bonus negates the need for guns.
Thus allowing you to keep your DPS and allow for more flexibility in your high slots for all situations, pvp and pve.
I agree. Even when I use guns, I usually end up using ACs because of damage types and grid req.
ATM drone ships suck hard compared to others. Any gun or missile specced ship is better then drone ship. Even Amarr drone ship like Curse is better then any other Gallente ship.
You make a good point. I do love my artillery fit myrmidon.
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: VannyDaCruz Dazram, I want to know your experiences in PVPing with a dominix. Most PVP dominixes, especially solo ones, use guns. There are times where medium blasters are used, and times when large electrons are used, and times when they are used in conjunction with the neuts. You have no idea what you are talking about and will get flamed down hard, and you will keep defending each and every post until the amount of naysayers will simply overwhelm your thread.
The Dominix is already the most versatile battleship in the game and borderline OP in solo and small gang situations, there is no need to take away its large hybrid bonus, it will ruin its PVE viability as well as many PVP fits.
"Yet in PvP you never see Dominix using it's gun slots. It's usually Energy neuts and drone link augmentors." I will quote you so you cannot ***** out and argue different and unrelated subjects:
The Dominix should NEVER fit drone link augmentors in PVP, and they more often than not use hybrid guns. You either 1. Live in a bad lowsec area with newbie pvpers, 2. Live in a carebear highsec/nullsec, 3. Just ran into bad domis. Stop defending yourself, you just look silly.
Congratulations. You're the first to flame and offer non-constructive feed back. 
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: VannyDaCruz Edited by: VannyDaCruz on 06/03/2011 12:15:23 Dazram, I want to know your experiences in PVPing with a dominix. Most PVP dominixes, especially solo ones, use guns. There are times where medium blasters are used, and times when large electrons are used, and times when they are used in conjunction with the neuts. You have no idea what you are talking about and will get flamed down hard, and you will keep defending each and every post until the amount of naysayers will simply overwhelm your thread.
The Dominix is already the most versatile battleship in the game and borderline OP in solo and small gang situations, there is no need to take away its large hybrid bonus, it will ruin its PVE viability as well as many PVP fits.
"Yet in PvP you never see Dominix using it's gun slots. It's usually Energy neuts and drone link augmentors." I will quote you so you cannot ***** out and argue different and unrelated subjects:
The Dominix should NEVER fit drone link augmentors in PVP, and they more often than not use hybrid guns. You either 1. Live in a bad lowsec area with newbie pvpers, 2. Live in a carebear highsec/nullsec, 3. Just ran into bad domis. Stop defending yourself, you just look silly.
EDIT: Also, the reason why my retaliation sounds flamey is because you are not looking for "why does it have a hybrid bonus", but you are looking for "I know I am right that hybrids suck, and thus you either agree with me or I'll quote you and tell you you are wrong".
If by removing the hybrid bonus, you can fit other guns and not worry about not having the bonus for them. (e.g lasers and projectiles)
I don't see the problem really.
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: VannyDaCruz Edited by: VannyDaCruz on 06/03/2011 12:19:27 What answer are you looking for then? People are disagreeing with you and you don't care. You say that the hybrid bonus is not relevant, and people are saying that it is because they fly it or see people flying it often or have experience in it. You just reply with "no".
The fact of the matter is that the hybrid bonus is used - what else do you want to know?
"Why would you use a blaster fit dominix when you can use a hyperion or a megathron and get better results"
This is wrong. You cannot.
The point, which you apparently missed, is that if you remove the hybrid turret bonus and replace it with something else, like say an increase in drone damage, that only leaves the ship with more versatility.
Someone might can use a dominix and have good drone skills but have no skills what so ever in hybrids and instead in say, lasers. Thus missing out on the hybrid bonus.
So by removing hybrid bonus and upping drone damage bonus some, it allows for more flexibility in the high slots and making the domi more accessible.
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: VannyDaCruz Edited by: VannyDaCruz on 06/03/2011 12:21:28 Edited by: VannyDaCruz on 06/03/2011 12:19:27 What answer are you looking for then? People are disagreeing with you and you don't care. You say that the hybrid bonus is not relevant, and people are saying that it is because they fly it or see people flying it often or have experience in it. You just reply with "no".
The fact of the matter is that the hybrid bonus is used - what else do you want to know?
"Why would you use a blaster fit dominix when you can use a hyperion or a megathron and get better results"
This is wrong. You cannot.
"If by removing the hybrid bonus, you can fit other guns and not worry about not having the bonus for them. (e.g lasers and projectiles)
I don't see the problem really."
You can say this about ANY ship that isn't minny. Half the ships in game with a freaking game end up using autos/arties, and yet you dont complain about them? Arty Abaddons? Auto Myrms? So what? Pulse baddons and hybrid myrms are just as viable.
The answer for a Myrmidon is quite clear. It's a drone boat with flexible high slots.
Why can't the same be done with the Dominix then?
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 14:06:00 -
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I know this idea will probably get shot down, but I'm going to throw it out there anyway.
What about remove ALL it's current ship bonuses and give it the ability to field 5 fighters perhaps?
What about a bonus that reduces the CPU and Power needs for a drone control unit?
A bonus that increases range on Energy Vamp/Destablizers?
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: To mare a bonus to AFK missioning will never happen get over it.
Please point to where I said I wanted this.
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Dazram Two
Originally by: To mare a bonus to AFK missioning will never happen get over it.
Please point to where I said I wanted this.
Here: Quote: Why not give it a bonus to Energy Destabilizers or up it's drone bonuses. Maybe give it more drone damage or allow the use of one or two extra drones?
Whether it was your intention or not, that's what you suggested.
I never specifically stated I wanted the bonuses to benefit AFK missioning. If they do, then it's simply a side effect I didn't intend.
But please. Show me where I said " I want a bonus to afk missioning."
(pro-tip: I didn't)
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Dazram Two
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Posted - 2011.03.06 17:39:00 -
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Ahhh forget it.
I'll try another forum where people are actually open minded when it comes to new ideas.
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