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Brandy Miner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.26 22:31:00 -
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I am a hulk pilot that has never been out of an npc corp. I have good standings everywhere.
I have 2.281 mil skill points, plus 322,525 unallocated. I'm not sure if they can be transfered without being used first, so the buyer can let me know where they want them used before transfer.
My wallet will be empty when transferred, and I will have no assets worth mentioning.
I will pay all transfer fees as per CCP rules.
Bidding starts at 1 bil, with a 2 bil buy out.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Brandy_Miner
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General Bud
Lonely Pea in a Pod
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Posted - 2011.09.26 22:39:00 -
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Ill start ya out at 1 bil but offer is only good for a couple hours as i am actively looking for a miner alt. |
Brandy Miner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.27 13:44:00 -
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Thank you for the Bid.
Did I mention I have 4 of the 5 + 3's in my head?
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General Bud
Lonely Pea in a Pod
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:41:00 -
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i noticed yes :) |
kingrebelf
BOAE INC BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:54:00 -
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1.2 bil b/o contact me in game. will buy your hulk too if you got one |
Brandy Miner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.27 17:34:00 -
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Thank you for your offer. If I do not get a better one within 24 hours, I will contact you to arrange for payment. |
kingrebelf
BOAE INC BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:39:00 -
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ok but i may buy another before then. i'm logging on now if you want to get it done. |
Brandy Miner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:18:00 -
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A hulk pilot is worth closer to 1.5 bil. Plus I got over 300k skill points you can put anywhere you want. Get a bit closer to my buy out, and I'll let you have your way with me now. :)
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kingrebelf
BOAE INC BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:37:00 -
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"hulk pilot" is a broad term. This is just barely able to fly the hulk. No t2 lasers or refining skills. 1.3b is final offer and it's only good until I find another.
bid is 1.3 b/o
edit: I didn't mention the attributes. |
Cpt Jack Hinken
The Black Pirates
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:57:00 -
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***RETRACTED*** |
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Brandy Miner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.27 21:18:00 -
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I will be sold for 1.3 bil if there is not a better offer in 24 hrs. I understand thet Kingrebelf reserves the right to retract this bid if he finds a character he likes better in that time. |
Raendel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.27 21:25:00 -
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1.4 billion. |
kingrebelf
BOAE INC BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.09.27 21:36:00 -
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yea 1.5 if you throw in the hulk. |
Brandy Miner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.27 22:15:00 -
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I know I'm a low end Hulk pilot, but please don't forget the unalicated skills that are available.
The best Offer I have so far is 1.3 bil from Kingrebelf (no items included)
I will lower my buy out to 1.5 bil (no items included) if I can get it done today. |
Raendel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.27 22:32:00 -
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1.6 with Hulk, available immediately. |
Brandy Miner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.27 23:04:00 -
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If you must have the hulk, I can do it for 1.7 mil |
Raendel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.27 23:19:00 -
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Are you joking? You'll "throw in" a Hulk for an additional .2 billion.
I could buy the Hulk myself for that price.
A normal Hulk pilot is worth around 1.5 bil. But your Hulk pilot is not normal. It is vastly under skilled. The 300k unallocated skill points do not make up for this.
Sorry, you pushed your luck a little too hard there. Just on the fact alone that you're obviously trying to rip people off I'm withdrawing from these negotiations. |
Brandy Miner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.27 23:46:00 -
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I'm not trying to rip people off, I'm trying to get the best price I can. It is certainly your right to decide I'm too high, just like it's my right to decide you're too cheap.
Retraction noted.
I will be sold for 1.3 bil if there is not a better offer in 21 hrs. I understand thet Kingrebelf reserves the right to retract this bid if he finds a character he likes better in that time. |
Raendel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.28 00:40:00 -
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Obviously you're trying to get as much ISK as you can - but that doesn't negate the fact that it's a rip off. In fact that is the prime motivation for ripping people off - to get as much money as you can for a deal. Nice try attempting to hide behind the "it's all just a matter of perspective" cliche.
You can bandy all the rhetoric you want, but it won't change a crap deal into a good deal, and lines such as "getting the best price you can" doesn't hide the fact that what you're offering is a rip off. Instead of trying to weasel your way out of it with rhetoric, try explaining why what you're offering is not a rip off.
Oh wait you can't.
Good day. |
Brandy Miner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.28 00:43:00 -
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You mad bro?
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Justin Credulent
Candelleon Angels
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Posted - 2011.09.28 00:49:00 -
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go back to 4chan where memes are still cool |
Brandy Miner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.28 01:12:00 -
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For anybody that hasn't done the math.
1 plex is selling for around 400 mil right now
It takes 4 months to train a pilot that can barely fly a Hulk (I'm barely over that) It costs $20 (abut 533 mil isk) to transfer a character.
Therefore, I have 4 plexes (1.2 bil) plus $20.00 (533 mil) invested to train and transfer this character. That's 1.733 bil.
Please explain to me how 1.5 bil rips you off.
Oh, that's right, you can't.
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Justin Credulent
Candelleon Angels
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Posted - 2011.09.28 01:24:00 -
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some problems with what you said:
you can train a hulk pilot with a buddy invite to yourself + 1 plex to activate it to full account. this will grant 51 days of play time. see this link to see how a hulk pilot can be trained in just under 51 days.
plex is not selling for 400 million isk, not even in backwater stations. plex is about 360 million, give or take.
add 65 million from +3 implants and skillbooks for hulk pilot and you're looking at 425 - 500 million isk to train a hulk pilot in about 50 days.
50 days = 1.66 months, not 4 months.
im not going to outright accuse you of scamming, but what youre saying doesnt add up to what actually is the reality of the matter. |
General Bud
Lonely Pea in a Pod
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Posted - 2011.09.28 01:26:00 -
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sorry im just gona LOL@that trash and move on good luck to whoever cops up 1.5bil for this
*edit im gona have to agree with justin |
Justin Credulent
Candelleon Angels
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Posted - 2011.09.28 01:26:00 -
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Quote:im just gona LOL@that trash and move on good luck to whoever cops up 1.5bil for this |
Raendel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.28 01:32:00 -
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Damn, someone got smacked. |
Sierra Golf
Adena Leiksha
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Posted - 2011.09.28 02:03:00 -
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Brandy Miner wrote:For anybody that hasn't done the math.
1 plex is selling for around 400 mil right now
It takes 4 months to train a pilot that can barely fly a Hulk (I'm barely over that) It costs $20 (abut 533 mil isk) to transfer a character.
Therefore, I have 4 plexes (1.2 bil) plus $20.00 (533 mil) invested to train and transfer this character. That's 1.733 bil.
Please explain to me how 1.5 bil rips you off.
Oh, that's right, you can't.
Ummm ... with your math ... I think you need to run the numbers again ... and maybe use a calculator this time.
IF 1 plex sells for 400m, and IF you had 4 of them, would this not be 4 x 400m = 1.6bn? 4 x 300m = 1.2bn.
Also, I agree with some of the other posts. I have trained a hulk pilot and brought a 2nd for 1.1bn. It's easy to train for them and certainly doesn't take 4 months. Remap + Implants = Not 4 months.
That being said, good luck with you sale and bump. |
Brandy Miner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.28 03:48:00 -
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Justin Credulent wrote:some problems with what you said: you can train a hulk pilot with a buddy invite to yourself + 1 plex to activate it to full account. this will grant 51 days of play time. see this link to see how a hulk pilot can be trained in just under 51 days.
That's a nice guide. Thanks for that. It does indeed cut the training time in half.
Justin Credulent wrote: plex is not selling for 400 million isk, not even in backwater stations. plex is about 360 million, give or take.
And this is total crap. There is exactly one plex in contract right now at 350 mil and it's in an auction that hasn't finished. The real price is much closer to 400 mil than it is 360
Justin Credulent wrote:
add 65 million from +3 implants and skillbooks for hulk pilot and you're looking at 425 - 500 million isk to train a hulk pilot in about 50 days.
50 days = 1.66 months, not 4 months.
im not going to outright accuse you of scamming, but what youre saying doesnt add up to what actually is the reality of the matter.
So if we add it all up again, using your training time which is obviously possible, and a more realistic 390 mil plex cost (excluding buddy account but including $20.00 fee to transfer) We get about 1.2 bil actual cost. Obviously being able to jump right in and use the character without waiting 1.66 months should be worth something, right?
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Brandy Miner
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.28 03:52:00 -
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Sierra Golf wrote:
Ummm ... with your math ... I think you need to run the numbers again ... and maybe use a calculator this time.
IF 1 plex sells for 400m, and IF you had 4 of them, would this not be 4 x 400m = 1.6bn? 4 x 300m = 1.2bn.
Also, I agree with some of the other posts. I have trained a hulk pilot and brought a 2nd for 1.1bn. It's easy to train for them and certainly doesn't take 4 months. Remap + Implants = Not 4 months.
That being said, good luck with you sale and bump.
Insert blushing face here. :) I'll sharpen up on my third grade math, and I have noted the less than 2 month training guide. |
Raendel
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.28 04:29:00 -
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Quote:Justin Credulent wrote:
plex is not selling for 400 million isk, not even in backwater stations. plex is about 360 million, give or take.
And this is total crap. There is exactly one plex in contract right now at 350 mil and it's in an auction that hasn't finished. The real price is much closer to 400 mil than it is 360
You're really good at being misleading. However, there's places other than contracts to purchase PLEX. In Rens they're going for around 370.
Factor in the $20 transfer fee and you're looking at 800-900 million, not 1.2 billion... nice try...
Transfer fee isn't even supposed to be a factor... isn't it CCP rules that the seller pays the transfer? Converting the transfer cost into ISK and tacking that onto your asking price... isnt' that making the buyer pay the transfer?
Tut tut.
Anyway Brandy, you'll probably have better luck selling this character if you don't argue with the entire forum and **** people off with your ignorance. Just sayin'. |
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