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Del Vikus Minmatar Intergang	Posted - 2011.03.15 16:36:00 - [1] Hi guys, I've finally got Recon 5 trained up and am looking to take my Rapier out for a spin. I'm likely to be flying solo in lowsec for the next few weeks. I'm going to be flying a pretty standard setup: 720s, cloak, probe launcher, webs, disruptors. Any suggestions for strategy? Most of the guides on the topic I've seen are pretty outdated. Thanks in advance.
Jaik7	Posted - 2011.03.15 16:58:00 - [2] del, i'm not sure how much action you'll get in that kind of ship. most of the guys i see try to avoid engaging something like a rapier, which is a common cynoship due to bonuses. the t1 version, bellicose, is like a cruiser typhoon. it can do just about anything. also, it's cheaper. i'd pick that for solopvp before i picked a rapier. if you want to use the recons, then you might want to try the huginn, it has more combat related bonuses and it is a lot less scary because people will not immidiatly associate it with a hotdrop. the above suggestion is for lowsec roaming, looking for a fair fight. if you want to go and raid nullsec alliances and see if you can scoop a few hulk kills, the rapier is your ship. just keep an eye out for bubbles and watch the system info for mining and you'll probably find so many targets you'll wish hulkageddon was still accepting entries.
Karl Planck Walt Disney Productions	Posted - 2011.03.15 17:06:00 - [3] Rapier is a hard one in low sec. Rapiers are good at killing frigs and slowing crap down. Ive seen quite a few combat scanner rapiers, but your not going to find many solo frigs in low sec that are at a scannable position, most will be on a gate, which you won't be able to engage at most of the time. They are great in gangs, but you might want to try another race for good recon solo. I have had a lot of success in a pilgrim and have HEARD of people having success with a falcon. In regards to the first reply, don't go for a non-cloaky recon for solo pvp. Your never going to get fights you want and you will always attract a blob ------------------------------------------------- Don't debate with morons. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Del Vikus Minmatar Intergang	Posted - 2011.03.15 17:28:00 - [4] Thanks for the thoughtful replies guys, I appreciate the advice.
Zyress	Posted - 2011.03.15 19:48:00 - [5] Don't get ballsy and jump the first Drake you see, the first solo kill I ever had was when a Rapier jumped my drake after I came thru a gate, about 6 volleys and he was historical. I've thought about roaming about in a Rook, I've heard they were a good solo boat, I've also heard its a well known fact and not many ppl will engage.
Machiavelli's Nemesis Angry Mustellid	Posted - 2011.03.15 22:41:00 - [6] My totally unhelpful recommendation is drop the rapier and go for a loki with the immobility driver sub. You can make a loki do the same thing as a rapier while spitting out twice the damage. :)
Daneel Trevize Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2011.03.15 23:51:00 - [7] Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 15/03/2011 23:51:43 Which sadly still isn't all that much, and you'll be wanting to be deep in falloff (or yeah use arties), could take a while.
Widemouth Deepthroat	Posted - 2011.03.16 00:35:00 - [8] Solo rapier I would suggest just setup bubble camp (t2 for quick anchor/deanchor times or cheap t1) and pop frigs/hauler that get caught. Sabre is better though.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.03.16 04:08:00 - [9] Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat Solo rapier I would suggest just setup bubble camp (t2 for quick anchor/deanchor times or cheap t1) and pop frigs/hauler that get caught. Sabre is better though. Pretty much this TBH.. Most recons lack the needed punching power to get the job done in a timely manor against same size ship hulls or bigger. If you are going for the Rapier it's probably best to just go for soft targets. The Pilgrim is really the best choice if trying to hunt big stuff. Yet even the Pilgrim has lackluster DPS and gets most of it's killing power for neuting a active tank and is pretty much useless against missile boats. I did once kill a belt ratting Drake in a Arazu, but it took a hell of a long time and I was pretty well capped out the entire fight.
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.16 05:29:00 - [10] Originally by: Zyress Don't get ballsy and jump the first Drake you see, the first solo kill I ever had was when a Rapier jumped my drake after I came thru a gate, about 6 volleys and he was historical. I lol'ed. Quote: I've thought about roaming about in a Rook, I've heard they were a good solo boat, I've also heard its a well known fact and not many ppl will engage. No, people won't engage not because it's a good soloboat but because 90% of the time the encounter ends with the Rook warping the **** off. The other 10% of the time you die and look stupid.
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.16 08:09:00 - [11] Rapier isnt really for solo, more of a support vessel, same as huginn. Also, they are both kind of squishy. and YES I have seen solo pvp rapiers before, but if you do not know what you are doing. expect to replace a lot of shiny hulls. Id probably start with frigates or cruisers til you actually figure out what you are doing. Guns don't kill people. onowait.
Gender AncestryBloodlin	Posted - 2011.03.16 09:41:00 - [12] I was wondering guys, i was thinking of training for a huggin. The main point is that my corp lives in 0.0 and we have bubbles around our gates, from time to time a neut/red comes through in a fast (often cloacky) ship trying to haras us. So the question is could a huggin kill something like a stabber/cynabal solo (webbing it in a bubble and orbiting it with an MWD)?
Soldarius Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.03.16 10:27:00 - [13] Little advice: combat recons, while having good resists, tend to still be squishy. Check your bonuses and cater to those. Ex: Went to SiSi and jumped into a Rook. Went to FFA for T2 cruisers and got insta-neuted by a Curse. Literally. Instantly. He had crap dps. But once his drones got to me, I could do **-all about it and had to warp, or if in point range, rely on a flight of small ECM drones to gtfo. If you really want to get some useful experience in a recon, go to the test server and try it there. You'll get all sorts of good PvP and it'll cost you bupkis. Originally by:** CCP Shadow ...I cannot guarantee (my) sobriety or decency.
The Tzar Quam Singulari Session Changes	Posted - 2011.03.16 13:00:00 - [14] Pilgrim or Rook imo
NoLimit Soldier	Posted - 2011.03.17 01:21:00 - [15] Rook and Curse are the two MAIN solo recons. A boss recon can solo BC and below unless ganged up on. Rapier you won't kill anything but cruisers and frigs dumb enough to hang around past your 5 second lock timer.
Del Vikus Minmatar Intergang	Posted - 2011.03.17 13:47:00 - [16] Thanks for the no-flaming responses. :) Constructive advice: I haz it
Holdout	Posted - 2011.03.17 14:14:00 - [17] Edited by: Holdout on 17/03/2011 14:14:45 Fly an expensive officer fit battleship.
Del Vikus Minmatar Intergang	Posted - 2011.03.17 14:59:00 - [18] Originally by: Holdout Edited by: Holdout on 17/03/2011 14:14:45 Fly an expensive officer fit battleship. I guess I did have that coming.
Holdout	Posted - 2011.03.17 18:32:00 - [19] Originally by: Del Vikus Originally by: Holdout Edited by: Holdout on 17/03/2011 14:14:45 Fly an expensive officer fit battleship. I guess I did have that coming. I was only kidding. Don't do that.
Ka Jolo The Tuskers	Posted - 2011.03.22 06:19:00 - [20] Edited by: Ka Jolo on 22/03/2011 06:20:25 Blaster Arazus are also popular for solo PVP. The real problem even with the popular solo PVP recons is that much of the time what looks like solo PVP really isn't, and recons end up not being cost-effective when compared with T1 battlecruisers.
Ventro69 Caldari Manson Family Corcoran State	Posted - 2011.03.22 12:27:00 - [21] Edited by: Ventro69 on 22/03/2011 12:27:23 Not reading all that, so if it's been mentioned before, just ignore me. S*** the 720's for 425's and if you can, rather use a Pilgrim. Edit: S-w-o-p is now a swear word?????
Daneel Trevize Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2011.03.22 12:51:00 - [22] Swap
Ombey Black Aces Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2011.03.22 13:59:00 - [23] Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat Solo rapier I would suggest just setup bubble camp (t2 for quick anchor/deanchor times or cheap t1) and pop frigs/hauler that get caught. Sabre is better though. Pretty much this- find a two gate system with a nice big gap between gates. Set up bubble and wait. When local goes up by one and the gate you're on doesn't flash, game on. Keep spamming DScan, as soon as something appears, you have time to decide if you want to hit it (decloak), or avoid it (stay cloaked). That way, you don't have a decloak timer to deal with. Have fun, but bring spare bubbles and move a bit. People tend to get riled with drag bubbles on their patch. 2d EveMaps\|My blog
Kuhn Arashi Caldari Wrecking Shots Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.03.22 19:51:00 - [24] For a cloaky recon, I agree with previous posts, pilgrim is very good at this. if you want to try the non-cloaking versions. both the Curse and the Rook have some nice bite to them on top of their Ewar capabilities ________________________________________ Fanfest 2011 contest fit: Caracal Please vote/comment, thanks
DR BiCarbonate	Posted - 2011.03.23 04:05:00 - [25] curse or pilgrim, rapier sucks solo, no dps huginn is decent only if you have great skills(very skill intensive, AWU 5) a rook with HAMs is pretty beast too
luvmehard	Posted - 2011.03.23 10:43:00 - [26] Originally by: Daneel Trevize Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 15/03/2011 23:51:43 Which sadly still isn't all that much, and you'll be wanting to be deep in falloff (or yeah use arties), could take a while. You can use HAMs on a Loki, darling
Daneel Trevize Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2011.03.23 11:08:00 - [27] Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 23/03/2011 11:20:14 At most 4 of them, with just a 25% RoF bonus. Leaving 3 gun slots. But wait, this is recon thread and HAMs means not the cloaky dps SS, so that's either 1 midslot left after the mwd, point, bonused web for a shield tank (active or passive) or going armour/sig tanked. Go armour you say? Ok that's 1 less high for a gun. And jesus the CPU issues trying to pack a decent tank or any dps mods then. And the guns have no optimal, falloff or tracking bonus. It gets expensive trying to make things fit. [Loki, Max HAMs?] Damage Control II Imperial Navy Energized Magnetic Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Imperial Navy Armor Explosive Hardener Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Domination Warp Disruptor Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization Valkyrie II x4 Vespa EC-600 x4 You can fit 1 launcher dps rig, with 1.5 cpu left. If you go 4 720s + 2 HAMs for more cpu, see lack of bonuses, 50 less dps with a gyro not a bcu, you don't really want to depimp the long point or tank and 0.2 PG so no projectile dps rigs without a PG one.
luvmehard	Posted - 2011.03.23 11:28:00 - [28] Edited by: luvmehard on 23/03/2011 11:29:29 Armor tank? Range should be your tank on the HAM Loki. And agility, ability to GTFO. Same as with the Rapier, you have to carefully choose your targets. No cloak though. [Loki, This perhaps?] Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Republic Fleet 10MN MicroWarpdrive Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Large Shield Extender II Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, EMP M Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Medium Core Defence Field Extender II Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Warrior II x5 Vespa EC-600 x4 Hornet EC-300 x3 edit: wrong ammo
Daneel Trevize Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2011.03.23 11:35:00 - [29] Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 23/03/2011 11:37:49 Half the tank and just 1 web. I'd be tempted to go PG SS, 100mn AB + FC SS, depimp the BCUs and upgrade to 425s. It's 1 sec more agile just trying to warp, plus a counter to scrams. Khanid webs would best match your point range and still be 60%, but not sure if they can be found.
luvmehard	Posted - 2011.03.23 12:18:00 - [30] Those guns are against drones only. Maybe frigs that manage to get close.

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