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MiaWallas
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Posted - 2011.03.16 04:35:00 -
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Hey Guys,
I know that in some variations this has been discussed a lot, but I just need one final confirmation please.
There is also one awesome guide around on how to repair faction standings, but again, it assumes you have at least one faction higher than -5.
Assuming IĈm in a situation where both Amarr and Caldari factions are close to -10, I can still run lvl 1 Q0 agents to raise that back to -4.9 and then run some epic arcs to help it further right?
So effectively there canĈt be a situation that existed some years ago where you could get yourself into position where no corrective action was possible anymore.
Am I correct?
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Helen Hunts
Gallente
Red Dragon Mining inc
Red Dragon Industries
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Posted - 2011.03.16 04:50:00 -
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Query: Are the standings you quote taking into account the Diplomacy skill?
If you haven't trained Diplomacy to 5 yet, there's an easier time for you. (If you've got it to 5, and are still close to -10 standings.... ouch.)
Still, for the Amarr, there's the Ammatar sub-faction which gets you a foot in the door there.
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.03.16 05:12:00 -
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Confirmed you can run L1Q0 agents for infinity and beyond and repair faction with anybody.
Anybody with level 1 storyline agents, anyway (I'm looking at you, CONCORD!)
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MiaWallas
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Posted - 2011.03.16 05:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
Confirmed you can run L1Q0 agents for infinity and beyond and repair faction with anybody.
Anybody with level 1 storyline agents, anyway (I'm looking at you, CONCORD!)
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Pocurk
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.03.16 05:58:00 -
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I must shamefully admit i ran alot of misions for Minmatar back in the day.
My standings with amarr had gone to -9.8 or something like that - not incl. social skills.
I managed to get my standings including social skills to -4.9 BUT .... and it's a big but to me...it takes quite alot of lvl 1 missions. I have tried to block out exactly how many, but i have looked it up :
Rough math based on those numbers : 29 storylines run x 15 missions to get those storyline = 450 missions.
I advise you to look long and hard into who and where to run those missions from - you need to know if security status factors in on storyline missions givin, as they vary a bit in standin gains. Get a few different ships that can do the missions fast and in one go, so you dont have to spend time refitting and coming back to stations with missions half complete and then turn your brain of for a few weeks (i used a covert ops, as i ended up running couriers through low sec, a mining cruiser, and a t2 frig for combat missions).
Then get it over with - it wasnt fun for me,at all. Im happy that i did do it tho, as i can now enter Amarr space which is a huge percentage of high security space.
Good luck.
Regards,
Pocurk
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Tournament Cat
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Posted - 2011.03.16 06:29:00 -
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Forget the faction standings for a moment and hook up with someone, or pay someone who runs LvL4 missions for the faction you want to repair.
Wont be long b4 you have high enough standing with the single agent that you can work for the agent yourself, no matter what your faction standing.
You then have a lvl 4 agent to work for, makes repairing your faction standing a lot quicker than messing about with lvl 1s.
In short you dont need good faction standings to work for a single agents. Just good standing towards that agent.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2011.03.16 06:38:00 -
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Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 16/03/2011 06:42:04
Well, first of all, train up Diplomacy to level 5.
As for doing the level 4 Epic Arcs for the Factions that you have negative standings with, you'll need to get the Faction standing above -2.00 as well as grind Corporation standing to above +6.80 to access the high level agents. For the level 1 Epic Arc, you'll need to have all Faction standings above -5.00 to freely access their space.
Also to access any regular agent above level 1 quality 0, you'll need -2.00 or higher Faction standing.
In defense of the Faction Standing Repair Plan which I wrote, the first half of the Event Agents listed are level 1 quality 0 and are available to everyone. Each agent mission will give a Faction standing gain. The reason I suggest starting with the highest negative Faction above -5.00 is so you don't have to worry about NPC Navy's attacking you all the time. It will also help raise the lower negative Faction standing.
I also pointed out in the 'Plan' that you'll have to grind up the standings to above -5.00 with regular agents. After you get one of the 'Unfriendly' negative Factions above -5.00, it'll be real easy to raise the standings.
The 'Plan' is the quickest way to raise negative Faction standings that I know about.
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MiaWallas
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Posted - 2011.03.16 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tournament Cat
In short you dont need good faction standings to work for a single agents. Just good standing towards that agent.
I thought if your faction is under -2, it doesn't matter how high is your standing with the agent. He/She will still not talk to you. Has this changed recently? |
GyokZoli
Caldari
Sanctum of Citizens
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Posted - 2011.03.16 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: MiaWallas
Originally by: Tournament Cat
In short you dont need good faction standings to work for a single agents. Just good standing towards that agent.
I thought if your faction is under -2, it doesn't matter how high is your standing with the agent. He/She will still not talk to you. Has this changed recently?
Yes. Maybe a year ago.
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RadioControlled
Joint Empire Squad
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Posted - 2011.03.16 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: GyokZoli
Originally by: MiaWallas
Originally by: Tournament Cat
In short you dont need good faction standings to work for a single agents. Just good standing towards that agent.
I thought if your faction is under -2, it doesn't matter how high is your standing with the agent. He/She will still not talk to you. Has this changed recently?
Yes. Maybe a year ago.
And no as well. Level 1 agents with quality 0 or below will always allow you to work for them. Higher quality and / or level agents will not, if your factionstandings are -2.0 or lower.
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Tournament Cat
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Posted - 2011.03.16 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: MiaWallas
Originally by: Tournament Cat
In short you dont need good faction standings to work for a single agents. Just good standing towards that agent.
I thought if your faction is under -2, it doesn't matter how high is your standing with the agent. He/She will still not talk to you. Has this changed recently?
TBH unfortunatly I didn't know about the " -2 " mechanic, so I can't answer if it is still the case or not.
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Chubrub
Soza Innovations
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Posted - 2011.03.17 01:37:00 -
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raising faction standings is a pain, ive got reasonably low gallente standings and i dont really want to let it drop further, but i dont really want to work on it either.
time to pick up a selection of interesting looking frigates and try some things out for funsies really, as blitzing those lvl 1's is gonna be the only way to do it, and its gonna take a LOT of em :(
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.21 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Chubrub
raising faction standings is a pain, ive got reasonably low gallente standings and i dont really want to let it drop further, but i dont really want to work on it either.
Sisters of EVE storylines are good way to fix Gallente. They don't hurt Amarr/Caldari standing very much, unlike the big drops for Gallente or Minmatar storylines.
Sisters of EVE LP store stuff (probes and launchers) also sell well.
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