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Randay	Posted - 2005.02.03 10:18:00 - [1] IT SUCKED! 100 FIX fleet waiting on pz gate, 80 STAIN fleet jumped in, and the all lag broke loose. Hostiles didnt show up on overview for minutes. Modules would not activate and locking would not go through. I had a 1 second lock time and a 2 second RoF and I got on only one kill mail at the end of the fight :/. Im sure it was much more worse for stain guys, Im guessing alot of them didnt even load! So, this will be turning into another one of those CCP fix teh lag threads now sorry for the people who dont want to read it Anyway maybe tomorrow will be lag free, gl hf to everyone and respect for jumping in on a larger fleet.
Moah	Posted - 2005.02.03 10:22:00 - [2] so we need a new thread every day. who cares, its always the same... you camp 9C 24/7, se jump in, we fight, end of story... Fancy.
AvanCade	Posted - 2005.02.03 10:57:00 - [3] Originally by: Randay IT SUCKED! 100 FIX fleet waiting on pz gate, 80 STAIN fleet jumped in, and the all lag broke loose. Hostiles didnt show up on overview for minutes. Modules would not activate and locking would not go through. I had a 1 second lock time and a 2 second RoF and I got on only one kill mail at the end of the fight :/. Im sure it was much more worse for stain guys, Im guessing alot of them didnt even load! So, this will be turning into another one of those CCP fix teh lag threads now sorry for the people who dont want to read it Anyway maybe tomorrow will be lag free, gl hf to everyone and respect for jumping in on a larger fleet. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA beaten at your own friggin' game. 99 friends in ships : 10billion ISK 80 enemies in ships : -8billion ISK beaten at your own game: priceless
m0jo	Posted - 2005.02.03 11:06:00 - [4] Yeah i was there cloaked above the fix fleet, and in gang with SE. Once the order to jump in came i noticed a minute later the gang went from 85 down to 60 something. Guess alot of ppl dropped. Lag was horrible, but I guess that is what you can expect from having 200 ships fighting each other.
Serena Greyskull	Posted - 2005.02.03 11:07:00 - [5] It must be frustrating that no thread has been about you Avancade as you seek to be seen in every thread that not even involve you or your corporation. Sorry to say but Shinra aint of any interest for the masses in EVE.
Shin Ra	Posted - 2005.02.03 11:24:00 - [6] Seriously tho, there is no need to keep posting a new thread every day. Just have a FIX vs Stain - February thread and post everything in there. ----------------------------------------- Heinky> Dont mix eve with rl it can be bad for your health
Light Angel	Posted - 2005.02.03 11:46:00 - [7] I think CCP must set a extra servernode for the battlefields. Reduce the lag.... i hope. Greetz
Light Darkness	Posted - 2005.02.03 11:46:00 - [8] Agreed. Its a nice idea. ----------------------------------------- *[- V -]-Fleet Admiral*
Temi	Posted - 2005.02.03 11:49:00 - [9] Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: Randay IT SUCKED! 100 FIX fleet waiting on pz gate, 80 STAIN fleet jumped in, and the all lag broke loose. Hostiles didnt show up on overview for minutes. Modules would not activate and locking would not go through. I had a 1 second lock time and a 2 second RoF and I got on only one kill mail at the end of the fight :/. Im sure it was much more worse for stain guys, Im guessing alot of them didnt even load! So, this will be turning into another one of those CCP fix teh lag threads now sorry for the people who dont want to read it Anyway maybe tomorrow will be lag free, gl hf to everyone and respect for jumping in on a larger fleet. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA beaten at your own friggin' game. 99 friends in ships : 10billion ISK 80 enemies in ships : -8billion ISK beaten at your own game: priceless why does everyone use that ** theme for a ** reply? Spelling errors ahoy..
heavyg	Posted - 2005.02.03 12:38:00 - [10] Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: Randay IT SUCKED! 100 FIX fleet waiting on pz gate, 80 STAIN fleet jumped in, and the all lag broke loose. Hostiles didnt show up on overview for minutes. Modules would not activate and locking would not go through. I had a 1 second lock time and a 2 second RoF and I got on only one kill mail at the end of the fight :/. Im sure it was much more worse for stain guys, Im guessing alot of them didnt even load! So, this will be turning into another one of those CCP fix teh lag threads now sorry for the people who dont want to read it Anyway maybe tomorrow will be lag free, gl hf to everyone and respect for jumping in on a larger fleet. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA beaten at your own friggin' game. 99 friends in ships : 10billion ISK 80 enemies in ships : -8billion ISK beaten at your own game: priceless Oh dear avancade, what a shame you still dont get it do you? /sarcasm on OK ill be honest here, I am tomb's alt. I have uber powers and a direct link to the servers. I do have a "FIX for teh win" module I load on my ibis, when i think we may loose i hit it and it reduces everyone but FIX fps to 1, at the same time it searches for everyone who is not in the same gang as me and then randomly disconnect 50% of them. This of course leaves FIX pilots with a +100fps and only 50% of the targets to shoot at. I may be selling modifed versions of this module for the right price. /sarcasm off On serios note kudos to SE for engaging, short lived fight this time but heh you cant have everything.
siim	Posted - 2005.02.03 12:52:00 - [11] this is why I avoid blobs
Hast	Posted - 2005.02.03 12:58:00 - [12] Originally by: heavyg on serios note kudos to SE for engaging, short lived fight this time but heh you cant have everything. SE didnt pwn Fix didnt pwn Lag pwned
CopeLand	Posted - 2005.02.03 13:06:00 - [13] Edited by: CopeLand on 03/02/2005 13:07:26 Edited by: CopeLand on 03/02/2005 13:05:57 What a nice game experience. I jump with my fleet. i wait up to 10 minutes in departure system, then i finally see im in destination system(9CG) but i see nothing not even my ship, another 5-10minutes and i finally get screen up... and im in warp to somewhere, im guessing away from gate, but no.. i find out im already in warp back to gate where not a single one of my 80+ gangmates are, but only the entire enemy fleet... nothing more to say really lets just say im a battleship short, thank you ccp for this happy experience
heavyg	Posted - 2005.02.03 13:10:00 - [14] Originally by: Hast Originally by: heavyg on serios note kudos to SE for engaging, short lived fight this time but heh you cant have everything. SE didnt pwn Fix didnt pwn Lag pwned Agreed hast, CCP for teh win
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.02.03 13:24:00 - [15] do we need a new thread for every day? if that was the case for PA then these forums would have died from having so many threads My vids and random stuff
ScoRpS	Posted - 2005.02.03 13:43:00 - [16] Edited by: ScoRpS on 03/02/2005 14:02:51 Originally by: MAXSuicide do we need a new thread for every day? Yes so that we dont need to wade through the masses of pages filled with uber crap from noobs with opinions that dont mean nuthin in the big picture and huge quotes just to put a smiley at the bottom with a few words.
ScoRpS	Posted - 2005.02.03 13:47:00 - [17] Edited by: ScoRpS on 03/02/2005 14:08:22 If Stain Empire were honest about their goals then we might get somewhere, as it is they keep changing the goal posts and as such always claiming victory no matter wat happens.(apart from lag this time)
ScoRpS	Posted - 2005.02.03 13:59:00 - [18] And furthmore we are simply FIX we have turned to no one for help but ourselves, Stain has a whole convoy of so called independant corps that help and with the size of stain i didnt think they needed help, perhaps they are scouting for new pvp corps to join them and using fix to test them out?
Hast	Posted - 2005.02.03 14:13:00 - [19] maybe we are just after fun? and you fix dudes should get of your high horse... you proved that in local last night... your high horse must feel really stupid with you guys sitting on it...
ScoRpS	Posted - 2005.02.03 14:16:00 - [20] Edited by: ScoRpS on 03/02/2005 14:25:00 Edited by: ScoRpS on 03/02/2005 14:18:46 Hast you obviously have not read the Mass to FiX stand thread yet (wich u have posted in).....dont make me qoute all of that thread, go read it then comment who is on high horse, ps we aint in stain empire chukkin it hard but for the record i think we know we cant
AvanCade	Posted - 2005.02.03 14:36:00 - [21] Originally by: ScoRpS And furthmore we are simply FIX we have turned to no one for help but ourselves, Stain has a whole convoy of so called independant corps that help and with the size of stain i didnt think they needed help, perhaps they are scouting for new pvp corps to join them and using fix to test them out? Yes, Shinra is on Stain trial as well. If we pass, we get the Paragon Soul region for our own. We only have to fly under Stain tag then, but hey, we get a region for a bit of PVP.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.02.03 16:16:00 - [22] hmm....seems a lot of people realised things about FIX i was blurting about long time ago... ooo well :) keep fighting.. and please dont make 'FIX VS SE Feb 3rd' thread ... we really dont need it... My vids and random stuff
Alowishus	Posted - 2005.02.03 16:38:00 - [23] It's perfect. FIX, little brother of FA, has the exact same tactics. Sit in one system 24/7 with huge blob. You guys really are ub3r, I don't think I can take it. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
S3VYN	Posted - 2005.02.03 16:42:00 - [24] Originally by: Alowishus It's perfect. FIX, little brother of FA, has the exact same tactics. Sit in one system 24/7 with huge blob. You guys really are ub3r, I don't think I can take it. You guys whine a lot for an attacking squad. BTW - Welcome to our battlefield, welcome to our terms. If you don't like our battlefield OR our terms please find another. If we ever invade SE space you guys are free to use whatever tactics you deem necessary to defend your assets. If any FIX pilots complain I will personally bean them with a nerf bat. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
Alowishus	Posted - 2005.02.03 16:53:00 - [25] I don't care what tactics you use, I'm just pointing out the irony. FA did the same thing. I avoid your blob nonesense. I was in your space a few nights ago looking for fights but I couldn't get a single FIX to engage me, instead they all continued toward 9C. Finding fights that aren't blobs is really difficult in Eve, when I see an enemy I engage them no matter what the odds are, all your guys do is run home to the blob. It's a legit tactic, it's just very vaginal. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2005.02.03 16:55:00 - [26] Originally by: S3VYN Originally by: Alowishus It's perfect. FIX, little brother of FA, has the exact same tactics. Sit in one system 24/7 with huge blob. You guys really are ub3r, I don't think I can take it. You guys whine a lot for an attacking squad. BTW - Welcome to our battlefield, welcome to our terms. If you don't like our battlefield OR our terms please find another. If we ever invade SE space you guys are free to use whatever tactics you deem necessary to defend your assets. If any FIX pilots complain I will personally bean them with a nerf bat. One of your pilots started this thread about "lag". You guys shouldnt whine when you see lagging your opponent as a valid tactic and the last you should even talk about is "omg the lag" because you are looking hypocritcal. If fix wants to decrease the lag, use smaller fleets & dont use blobs. You will find more fights with SA and a better game environment. If you dont want to do that because "in our home we fight on our terms" please stfu and stop making threads whining about lag.
Evecrumble	Posted - 2005.02.03 16:58:00 - [27] Edited by: Evecrumble on 03/02/2005 16:59:31 Edited by: Evecrumble on 03/02/2005 16:59:05 "CRIPPLE FIGHT"
Baun	Posted - 2005.02.03 17:13:00 - [28] Originally by: m0jo Yeah i was there cloaked above the fix fleet, and in gang with SE. Once the order to jump in came i noticed a minute later the gang went from 85 down to 60 something. Guess alot of ppl dropped. Lag was horrible, but I guess that is what you can expect from having 200 ships fighting each other. Keep in mind that there is a new bug where gang randomnly drops. As an example, right before the racers came through on sunday about 1/3rd of our gang (~80) simply lost gang. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Serena Greyskull	Posted - 2005.02.03 17:34:00 - [29] lol this thread is funny. Next time we se the SE blob form up and move into our space we will just have to logg so we dont lag them.
AvanCade	Posted - 2005.02.03 18:28:00 - [30] Originally by: S3VYN Originally by: Alowishus It's perfect. FIX, little brother of FA, has the exact same tactics. Sit in one system 24/7 with huge blob. You guys really are ub3r, I don't think I can take it. You guys whine a lot for an attacking squad. BTW - Welcome to our battlefield, welcome to our terms. If you don't like our battlefield OR our terms please find another. If we ever invade SE space you guys are free to use whatever tactics you deem necessary to defend your assets. If any FIX pilots complain I will personally bean them with a nerf bat. Yet your pilots where complaining about the lag as well...
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.02.03 18:30:00 - [31] dont think he was talking about lag cade... My vids and random stuff
S3VYN	Posted - 2005.02.03 18:43:00 - [32] Edited by: S3VYN on 03/02/2005 18:44:52 Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: S3VYN Originally by: Alowishus It's perfect. FIX, little brother of FA, has the exact same tactics. Sit in one system 24/7 with huge blob. You guys really are ub3r, I don't think I can take it. You guys whine a lot for an attacking squad. BTW - Welcome to our battlefield, welcome to our terms. If you don't like our battlefield OR our terms please find another. If we ever invade SE space you guys are free to use whatever tactics you deem necessary to defend your assets. If any FIX pilots complain I will personally bean them with a nerf bat. One of your pilots started this thread about "lag". You guys shouldnt whine when you see lagging your opponent as a valid tactic and the last you should even talk about is "omg the lag" because you are looking hypocritcal. If fix wants to decrease the lag, use smaller fleets & dont use blobs. You will find more fights with SA and a better game environment. If you dont want to do that because "in our home we fight on our terms" please stfu and stop making threads whining about lag. Smaller fleets? What... you want us to start telling our people who are in our systems to log off so YOU can have a more "fun" game experience? Um... lemme think about that... no. Querious is where we are, it's where we play the game. We're here whether you are or not and tbh, when SE and co isn't here lag isn't a problem. So I submit to you that it is SE who is using lag tactics. After all, we're here 23/7 with no problems whatsoever, however, when 70 or 80 of you guys show up all of a sudden the servers can't handle it. See how that works? ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
heavyg	Posted - 2005.02.03 18:44:00 - [33] cummon guys You bring 80 ships, and you whine about lag and how may ships we have, be real, you want smaller fleets stop sending 80 ships in then. We will reply with equal or about the same. While you send large fleets we will meet with large fleets. What would the whiners like? Ill tell you what, they would be happy to send 80 ships to be met by 10 frigs and a cruiser. This is not meant as a slight on the majority of the fine SE pilots but simply at the ones who whine about lag all the time.
Diamond Dog	Posted - 2005.02.03 19:26:00 - [34] Originally by: heavyg cummon guys You bring 80 ships, and you whine about lag and how may ships we have, be real, you want smaller fleets stop sending 80 ships in then. We will reply with equal or about the same. While you send large fleets we will meet with large fleets. What would the whiners like? Ill tell you what, they would be happy to send 80 ships to be met by 10 frigs and a cruiser. This is not meant as a slight on the majority of the fine SE pilots but simply at the ones who whine about lag all the time. I'd be quite happy with smaller engagements.. tbh.. Having fought way too many 150+ ship fights I have come to the conclusion that smaller fleets are much more enjoyable.. Since you guys incist on fighting in 9cg I'm afraid we're forced to bring 80ships ________________________________________
Tgaru	Posted - 2005.02.03 19:26:00 - [35] Edited by: Tgaru on 03/02/2005 19:27:33 No matter how hard SE tries or how many irrelevant posts people have to wade through from Shinra, at the end of the day, most people see Stain as the aggressor in someone elses backyard in this conflict. The fact is, if SE could put a decent enough chain on ATUK, and eschewed their own "boredom driven" imperial tendencies, then there would be no conflict as we see it today. But despite constant indirect references by SE themselves to the above very much being the truth, I'm sure Hast will come by soon and tell you it's all false because I'm an alt :)
Mrissa Easeah	Posted - 2005.02.03 19:34:00 - [36] Originally by: Tgaru Edited by: Tgaru on 03/02/2005 19:27:33 No matter how hard SE tries or how many irrelevant posts people have to wade through from Shinra, at the end of the day, most people see Stain as the aggressor in someone elses backyard in this conflict. The fact is, if SE could put a decent enough chain on ATUK, and eschewed their own "boredom driven" imperial tendencies, then there would be no conflict as we see it today. But despite constant indirect references by SE themselves to the above very much being the truth, I'm sure Hast will come by soon and tell you it's all false because I'm an alt :) Yeah, unfortunately, you aren't helping much because of that very reason. :/ I kinda cringe every time I see the 'alliance/corp' info missing from a character, because of that. Both for or against me. The same goes for my own people who, with good intentions, sometimes blow an otherwise golden opportunity to shoot down a flame's fallacy by adding to the problem. shrugs Its a free forum, everyone who has a voice is entitled, even the anonymous.
Diamond Dog	Posted - 2005.02.03 19:35:00 - [37] Originally by: Tgaru Edited by: Tgaru on 03/02/2005 19:27:33 No matter how hard SE tries or how many irrelevant posts people have to wade through from Shinra, at the end of the day, most people see Stain as the aggressor in someone elses backyard in this conflict. The fact is, if SE could put a decent enough chain on ATUK, and eschewed their own "boredom driven" imperial tendencies, then there would be no conflict as we see it today. But despite constant indirect references by SE themselves to the above very much being the truth, I'm sure Hast will come by soon and tell you it's all false because I'm an alt :) Yes you're an alt.. Grow a pair and post with your main. Meanwhile I so do enjoy FIX trying to tell the other people in the EVE universe how to look at the matter.. "Most see Stain as the agressor" In FIX most definatly but the rest of the eve population? I can pretty much say that you guys don't have a clue about that since I highly doubt that FIX got a mail from every last corp/alliance ingame telling them they think SE is in the wrong.. My point is don't present something as a fact if you can't back it up /me flames the silly alt. /DD ________________________________________
Tgaru	Posted - 2005.02.03 19:38:00 - [38] Originally by: Diamond Dog Since you guys incist on fighting in 9cg I'm afraid we're forced to bring 80ships I think it's somewhat inaccurate to suggest FIX wishes any of these hostilities at all. They are just protecting their home. But to show you that as the Master of Alt-ness, I'm here to help you out, let me suggest you attack Shinra. I can guarantee you that small groups of four to 10 of them will rush up into your space at any given point and LOGOFF. At that point you can camp their logoff area and nab them when they log back in and reconstitute the smaller sized groups you've said you prefer fighting :) Don't bother sending my a check. My advice is free
Tgaru	Posted - 2005.02.03 19:44:00 - [39] I'll just comment that there are some that like to follow alliance politics who are not a member of either of the sides fighting each other. This is all very interesting to me because of how obvious it is to me that 90% of this is just one side being bored and so trying mightily to justify its actions within some logical framework. It's silly. That's all :) I don't mean to instigate or inflame although I can feel the angst of those who are being silly about all this as they try to hide behind their rationales.
Diamond Dog	Posted - 2005.02.03 19:56:00 - [40] Edited by: Diamond Dog on 03/02/2005 19:56:35 Originally by: Tgaru Originally by: Diamond Dog Since you guys incist on fighting in 9cg I'm afraid we're forced to bring 80ships I think it's somewhat inaccurate to suggest FIX wishes any of these hostilities at all. They are just protecting their home. But to show you that as the Master of Alt-ness, I'm here to help you out, let me suggest you attack Shinra. I can guarantee you that small groups of four to 10 of them will rush up into your space at any given point and LOGOFF. At that point you can camp their logoff area and nab them when they log back in and reconstitute the smaller sized groups you've said you prefer fighting :) Don't bother sending my a check. My advice is free OHNOES! How did I miss that... Clearly not being a gutless alt has clouded my vision. that is all.
Mrissa Easeah	Posted - 2005.02.03 20:06:00 - [41] Edited by: Mrissa Easeah on 03/02/2005 20:06:25 [edited for horrible grammer, bleah] DD, just ignore him. Since he's an alt, and everyone can see it, you don't need to constantly point it out all the time. Unless his points are utterly valid, he needs no help from you to discredit them. I've pointed it out myself, and we're on opposite sides of the battlelines, and if you want to have a discussion, or make a point for the readers of this thread, I'm more than up to the task of hearing you out.
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2005.02.03 22:01:00 - [42] Originally by: S3VYN Smaller fleets? What... you want us to start telling our people who are in our systems to log off so YOU can have a more "fun" game experience? Um... lemme think about that... no. One of your pilots started this thread to whine about HIS / OUR "fun" game experience. You wont see that making smaller fleets means "telling ppl to logoff". Tho its understandable you have comprehending issues.... Quote: Querious is where we are, it's where we play the game. We're here whether you are or not and tbh, when SE and co isn't here lag isn't a problem. So I submit to you that it is SE who is using lag tactics. After all, we're here 23/7 with no problems whatsoever, however, when 70 or 80 of you guys show up all of a sudden the servers can't handle it. See how that works? The serverspace doesnt belong to you as much as you might claim the territory ingame. Again, your pilot complained about the lag.... Furthermore saying over and over "there is no lag if you dont come here" is a silly argument and we both know it. If you wanna act like a defiant lil spoiled teenager who didnt get his way (politically) and tries now deliberately to either annoy everyone else or tries to spoil everyone elses fun as much as possible, be it. Just spit your venom on your own forums, ccp nor anyone else shares your view on lag. If you are that desperate that you need to claw yourself to it the you really have my pity. Your mainargument and answer anyone suggesting to take steps so BOTH sides can play rather then follow a slideshow is to "go away and there wont be lag" which is in itself a rather childish statement. Evenmore once you start to understand that YOUR ALLIANCEM8 started this thread so please stfu with this "just go away please" argument....
S3VYN	Posted - 2005.02.03 22:05:00 - [43] Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: S3VYN Smaller fleets? What... you want us to start telling our people who are in our systems to log off so YOU can have a more "fun" game experience? Um... lemme think about that... no. One of your pilots started this thread to whine about HIS / OUR "fun" game experience. You wont see that making smaller fleets means "telling ppl to logoff". Tho its understandable you have comprehending issues.... Quote: Querious is where we are, it's where we play the game. We're here whether you are or not and tbh, when SE and co isn't here lag isn't a problem. So I submit to you that it is SE who is using lag tactics. After all, we're here 23/7 with no problems whatsoever, however, when 70 or 80 of you guys show up all of a sudden the servers can't handle it. See how that works? The serverspace doesnt belong to you as much as you might claim the territory ingame. Again, your pilot complained about the lag.... Furthermore saying over and over "there is no lag if you dont come here" is a silly argument and we both know it. If you wanna act like a defiant lil spoiled teenager who didnt get his way (politically) and tries now deliberately to either annoy everyone else or tries to spoil everyone elses fun as much as possible, be it. Just spit your venom on your own forums, ccp nor anyone else shares your view on lag. If you are that desperate that you need to claw yourself to it the you really have my pity. Your mainargument and answer anyone suggesting to take steps so BOTH sides can play rather then follow a slideshow is to "go away and there wont be lag" which is in itself a rather childish statement. Evenmore once you start to understand that YOUR ALLIANCEM8 started this thread so please stfu with this "just go away please" argument.... I didn't realize you spoke for CCP and the entire populous of EVE outside of FIX. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2005.02.03 22:09:00 - [44] well it might be news to you but the entire community doesnt enjoy lag. According to ccp lag is furthermore not an implemented gamefeature but sadly something which comes due to technical difficulties and can lower ppls fun on this game. Regardless their efforts to decrease this fundecreasing factor... Or do you disagree with those points ?
S3VYN	Posted - 2005.02.03 22:13:00 - [45] Originally by: Kcel Chim well it might be news to you but the entire community doesnt enjoy lag. According to ccp lag is furthermore not an implemented gamefeature but sadly something which comes due to technical difficulties and can lower ppls fun on this game. Regardless their efforts to decrease this fundecreasing factor... Or do you disagree with those points ? It might be news to you, but SE and co routinely brings 80 ships to Querious, thus causing said lag by combining their forces with those of FIX, who have been in Querious for some time. Lag is something that neither party is responsible for, but both parties share in the responsibility of. To accuse one party of "causing lag" or "attempting to use lag as an advantage" is silly. No one wants lag, but the unfortunate fact of the matter is that EVE is a server and client code intensive application and lag is inevitable, whether it be network OR hardware lag. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
Hast	Posted - 2005.02.03 22:17:00 - [46] Originally by: S3VYN Originally by: Kcel Chim well it might be news to you but the entire community doesnt enjoy lag. According to ccp lag is furthermore not an implemented gamefeature but sadly something which comes due to technical difficulties and can lower ppls fun on this game. Regardless their efforts to decrease this fundecreasing factor... Or do you disagree with those points ? It might be news to you, but SE and co routinely brings 80 ships to Querious, thus causing said lag by combining their forces with those of FIX, who have been in Querious for some time. Lag is something that neither party is responsible for, but both parties share in the responsibility of. To accuse one party of "causing lag" or "attempting to use lag as an advantage" is silly. No one wants lag, but the unfortunate fact of the matter is that EVE is a server and client code intensive application and lag is inevitable, whether it be network OR hardware lag. meh how long are you going to continue saying this? if you can come up with a better way of attacking a 120man fleet with drones deployed on a gate I guess you can just go push the win button now... so you want us to go away? well, its not working... we will just find another way to attack you I hope.
S3VYN	Posted - 2005.02.03 22:21:00 - [47] Originally by: Hast Originally by: S3VYN Originally by: Kcel Chim well it might be news to you but the entire community doesnt enjoy lag. According to ccp lag is furthermore not an implemented gamefeature but sadly something which comes due to technical difficulties and can lower ppls fun on this game. Regardless their efforts to decrease this fundecreasing factor... Or do you disagree with those points ? It might be news to you, but SE and co routinely brings 80 ships to Querious, thus causing said lag by combining their forces with those of FIX, who have been in Querious for some time. Lag is something that neither party is responsible for, but both parties share in the responsibility of. To accuse one party of "causing lag" or "attempting to use lag as an advantage" is silly. No one wants lag, but the unfortunate fact of the matter is that EVE is a server and client code intensive application and lag is inevitable, whether it be network OR hardware lag. meh how long are you going to continue saying this? if you can come up with a better way of attacking a 120man fleet with drones deployed on a gate I guess you can just go push the win button now... so you want us to go away? well, its not working... we will just find another way to attack you I hope. I'll say it as long as I'm called on to do so. I'm not going anywhere, I have lots of time, I type 196 wpm and it's my job. It isn't our job or perogative to let you "win", so yeah, if you don't like what's happening find an alternative solution, best suggestion I've seen yet. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2005.02.03 22:24:00 - [48] Originally by: S3VYN ... I will blame it on your lack of experience that you keep repeating over and over obviously untrue "facts". CA and SE/ATUK/XF had far bigger battles and were able to "war" each other for a year without running into the problems you are having. As i posted above, 2 40man vs 40 fleets would be more likely to fight in 2 systems then 2*80. Neither does deploying drones help the lag. Just fyi your "alliance" has more then 1 solarsystem unless you want to correct the map Lag is a known factor in the game, tho most players (apparently ure not one of them) seem to understand that for enjoying the game its in both sides interest to reduce it to a playable amount.
empire nublette	Posted - 2005.02.03 22:29:00 - [49] Edited by: empire nublette on 03/02/2005 22:29:42 Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: S3VYN ... I will blame it on your lack of experience that you keep repeating over and over obviously untrue "facts". CA and SE/ATUK/XF had far bigger battles and were able to "war" each other for a year without running into the problems you are having. As i posted above, 2 40man vs 40 fleets would be more likely to fight in 2 systems then 2*80. Neither does deploying drones help the lag. Just fyi your "alliance" has more then 1 solarsystem unless you want to correct the map Lag is a known factor in the game, tho most players (apparently ure not one of them) seem to understand that for enjoying the game its in both sides interest to reduce it to a playable amount. here, have a cookie
Meridius	Posted - 2005.02.03 22:34:00 - [50] How about you morons stop blobbing the server to doom? You know eve is buggy + patch day was just a few days ago yet you still have to sit in one place, camp, and then moan about 200ships in one system causing lag. Fixing lag on this scale isn't an easy thing, it's not going to go away with a magical fix lag button. BUHU. ________________________________________________________
S3VYN	Posted - 2005.02.03 22:39:00 - [51] Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: S3VYN ... I will blame it on your lack of experience that you keep repeating over and over obviously untrue "facts". CA and SE/ATUK/XF had far bigger battles and were able to "war" each other for a year without running into the problems you are having. As i posted above, 2 40man vs 40 fleets would be more likely to fight in 2 systems then 280. Neither does deploying drones help the lag. Just fyi your "alliance" has more then 1 solarsystem unless you want to correct the map Lag is a known factor in the game, tho most players (apparently ure not one of them) seem to understand that for enjoying the game its in both sides interest to reduce it to a playable amount. What facts are you disputing? That there were 80 SE and co ships attacking 9CG? I'm not clear on how, with 150 or so ships in local, you can blame lag on anyone in particular, yet you do. It also ***s me up to see someone accusing people of blobbing. Again, go fight somewhere else if you don't like the odds/tactics/server behavior. We don't want you guys attacking us, feel free to leave whenever you like points to the door* and don't let the doorknob hit you in the ass on the way out. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
Boldyn	Posted - 2005.02.03 22:42:00 - [52] Edited by: Boldyn on 03/02/2005 22:42:50 ok, to sum it all up and end this. 1. Yes, lag sucked, we all had it, no fun. 2. We live here, whoever wants to join gang in their own home system may do so. We don¦t ask people to log off, other people do that much better... 3. Whoever mentioned how we behaved in local, let¦s not forget how you left local...including the poor Raven pilot who coouldn¦t get back online for like 1 hour, I wonder how he got home.. And yes, I agree, let¦s just keep going on the original february thread. Regards
Diamond Dog	Posted - 2005.02.04 00:00:00 - [53] Edited by: Diamond Dog on 04/02/2005 00:01:04 Originally by: Mrissa Easeah Edited by: Mrissa Easeah on 03/02/2005 20:06:25 [edited for horrible grammer, bleah] DD, just ignore him. Since he's an alt, and everyone can see it, you don't need to constantly point it out all the time. Unless his points are utterly valid, he needs no help from you to discredit them. I've pointed it out myself, and we're on opposite sides of the battlelines, and if you want to have a discussion, or make a point for the readers of this thread, I'm more than up to the task of hearing you out. Alts that talk out of their arse annoy me :¦ I really don't wanna go into that he said she said crap that the FIX propaganda maschines been posting on the forums.. Personally I prefer to do the fighting ingame. ________________________________________
Hast	Posted - 2005.02.04 00:11:00 - [54] Originally by: S3VYN I type 196 wpm and it's my job. I betcha I can press f1- f8 faster than you can type 196words
Diamond Dog	Posted - 2005.02.04 00:14:00 - [55] Originally by: Hast Originally by: S3VYN I type 196 wpm and it's my job. I betcha I can press f1- f8 faster than you can type 196words That's Sig material lol ________________________________________
Isonkon Serikain	Posted - 2005.02.04 19:53:00 - [56] Edited by: Isonkon Serikain on 04/02/2005 19:54:44 Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: Randay IT SUCKED! 100 FIX fleet waiting on pz gate, 80 STAIN fleet jumped in, and the all lag broke loose. Hostiles didnt show up on overview for minutes. Modules would not activate and locking would not go through. I had a 1 second lock time and a 2 second RoF and I got on only one kill mail at the end of the fight :/. Im sure it was much more worse for stain guys, Im guessing alot of them didnt even load! So, this will be turning into another one of those CCP fix teh lag threads now sorry for the people who dont want to read it Anyway maybe tomorrow will be lag free, gl hf to everyone and respect for jumping in on a larger fleet. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA beaten at your own friggin' game. 99 friends in ships : 10billion ISK 80 enemies in ships : -8billion ISK beaten at your own game: priceless Can we bring a saucer of milk for this fussy kitty?
General Martock	Posted - 2005.02.05 11:23:00 - [57] Originally by: Light Angel I think CCP must set a extra servernode for the battlefields. Reduce the lag.... i hope. Greetz Yup.. i'm down with that idea.. it'd make fleet battles a lot easier for a lot of peeps 'I love the smell of napalm in the morning'
Phyre	Posted - 2005.02.05 14:35:00 - [58] Hmm, it's been 6 posts since S3YVN has posted. I'm beginning to get worried about him :( Should someone call his house? Something has happened to him, I bet :( He's never gone this long without posting :(

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