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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.08.30 07:31:00 -
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With modular designed POS systems force fields really had to go and some of the ideas like armor repair units sounded kind of cool.
As to limiting the size of a POS anywhere, why? I mean yeah if someone has a monster POS in a C1 it will suck to bring down but at the same time that person or those poeple are paying for the upkeep of a monster POS.
Artificial limits anywhere like that or limiting the size allowed for different class worm holes is just stupid. As it grows so does the bill so if you want to pay 10 bill a month in fueling cost so be it, you should be allowed.
It would mean that people would have huge POSs in their base systems and it would also occur in null and in lo-sec where people wanted a permanent home and where willing to pay for it.
Besides the limiting comment on C1-C4 Whs the comment I didn't like was when he stated that people want a bigger POS for their corp and then an even bigger one for their Alliance. Now this in its self is good I should be able to change ownership from personal to corp and then the corp should be able to change it to an alliance asset but the POS structure should not contain anything where in order to use that module you HAVE to make it a corp or Alliance asset.
Hell if I am paying for it I should easily be able to choose who I want to be able to use it whether that be corp mates, alliance guys or just people I have set to blue.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.08.31 03:05:00 -
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Personally as a resident of one of the lower class wormholes, it sickens me that they would want to limit what types of towers we can use.
I chose a corp in a lower category because I like small gang PvP and find capital warfare crap.
If with the New POS setup coming out, I am not able to have my new "Home' as I would like it and would become an easy target for people who felt like kicking me out. Well what is the point? I might as well go live in lo-sec or Null where although I can get my POS hot dropped but I can also defend it to my hearts content.
Stuffing up C1-C4 Wormholes just because you cannot attack the POS with capitals is insane.
We are getting the new POS system no matter what and that means no force fields, to this we will adapt to but limiting us is crap, and as to the ability to support corporations I normally don't run anoms or harvest Ladar sites in my own system thats what other peoples space is for
Making C1-C4 Wormholes different because they are popular is just nuts, they are popular because they work. They work for everyone who doesn't want to be in a Large corp. They work for people who don't want to be in a Null sec sized blob and they work for people who want to be involved in combat and not as an also appearing in capital combat.
Maybe the question should really be why are the lower wormholes more popular than the C5 and C6, maybe it is the C5 and C6 that needs altering?
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.09.04 09:16:00 -
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XxRTEKxX wrote:Restricting pos sizes based on class of the wormhole is a bad idea. If we get stuck with medium and small pos', then our "lower" class systems should give a large pos equivilant bonus to our pos' pg and cpu.
Why should a high class get caps and large towers and we get stuck with less? Because we are the lower class in wormhole society right?
Yes all the rest of EvE will be able to get what ever kind of New POS they wish to afford but not us peasants.
Maybe we should sit on the Hi-sec side of wormholes asking passers by, "Want your shoes shined governor?"
Either that or ask if our POSs can look like huts, so at least we will look like we are being treated.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.09.05 00:55:00 -
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Excluding everything all I can see happening with longer timers is
1) Group A lis living in a wormhole
2) Group b decides to take over said wormhole and puts up a tower
3) Group B reinforces group A's tower
4) to try and remove them Group A reinforces group B's tower
Now with the long timers this will just go on for several weeks to a month until
5) group C sees 2 reinforced POS towers and decides that they might like the wormhole
So eventually group A and B leave the wormhole broke from the loss of ships and inability to do anything and then Group C starts making its self comfortable until Group D comes along.
The whole process while nice to have a safer home in matters of time it also means that if anyone put up another POS in your system you are both screwed.
And as to limiting the size of POS towers...It is just insane, if you limit any part of EvE like that it would be a ghost town, except Hi-sec as most of them would not notice...
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Posted - 2012.09.05 08:42:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:I don't mind if Two Step wants to nerf the hell out of lower class wormholes, so long as he does his "job" and tells CCP that pretty much everyone except him DOESN'T want that :)
I honestly can't see anything good coming out of nerfing lower class wormholes. All I see happening is the depopulation of the lower classes, fewer people in wormhole space in general, and the remaining ones moving into ever growing huge alliances (because good luck establishing a c5/c6 home if you're a solitary small corp). Two Step, you have to look at both sides of this, not just people (both big and small entities) wishing to evict people from lower classes, but also people who wish to live in lower classes. Why would ANYONE ever move into a lower class wormhole if the system effects are worse, the isk is pathetic AND they have a horrific limitation put on their defenses (a limitation not even high sec has)?
It seems to fly in the face of the "risk vs reward" thing we have going in EVE. Higher risk for higher rewards. Except apparently in lower class wormholes, where you want higher risk and lower rewards. Dumb.
Maybe CCP decided to do away with Lower class wormholes because they were not close enough to Null Sec. And through the NDA they figured out the best way to depopulate it and Two Step got to give us the news.
Hell it maybe a whacky theory but it actually makes more sense than the truth
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.09.05 13:31:00 -
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Is Two step in reality just an alt of Lord Zim, you be the judge
Lord Zim wrote:NPC alts should stay away from posting, forever.
Two step wrote:Please post with your main.
Well its either an alt or he wants to join Goonswarm
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Posted - 2012.09.05 13:39:00 -
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Meytal wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Maybe it's time to let the whole POS size issue die. If we work on the principle that the majority rules, then Two Step's views can be discounted and we should trust that CCP have people on staff that agree with our opinions on the matter. Personally, I "trust" that CCP doesn't consider w-space and those of us who live here to be on equal footing to Nullsec. I really don't expect that CCP will debate among themselves how changes they make for the benefit of Nullsec will affect us, that's why they have the CSM. When they make comments or suggestions and ask for input, if Two Step says it's all good for w-space, they won't stop to ask him whether that is his own viewpoint or that of his constituents. And rightly so. That's what elected representation is all about. Collectively, we elected Two Step to represent our needs and fight for us in the eyes of CCP, and he is failing to do so. We have few choices other than putting someone else on the CSM next time to hopefully represent us more faithfully. I'm not even sure trying to go around Two Step to address CCP directly would work. Meanwhile, we must keep trying to break through Two Step's thick skull in the hopes that he may yet start doing the job for which he was elected.
May I suggest the CSM Chairman Hotline
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=148337&find=unread
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Posted - 2012.09.05 23:19:00 -
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Two step wrote:
Being elected to the CSM doesn't obligate me to answer each and every post someone makes. I choose which things I want to respond to, and I am saying that I am *choosing* not to respond to alt posts. I'm sorry if that makes you mad, but that is what I am choosing to do. As was pointed out before, do you really think you will get a response from an elected official if you send them mail with an obviously fake name and address?
If folks don't want to reveal their identity in public, they should feel free to eve mail or convo me.
Ok on a serious note from me.
You were Elected to the CSM by accounts not mains or alts. People get one vote per account not per main.
So the fact that someone is asking you a question by an alt still means that there is an account behind it, and subsequently a valid person.
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