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Avon	Posted - 2005.02.04 12:50:00 - [31] Originally by: Saine Edited by: Saine on 04/02/2005 12:06:23 Originally by: Ardilien Did you even play Doom 3? The scores this game got are a joke at best! It's the perfect example where scores got bought or at least hype influenced the score badly. Cronicles of Riddik > Doom 3 but it didn't got all the advertisement. With all due respect you're stating an opinion, not a fact, therefore your argument is invalid. In your opinion... ______________________________________________ Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience.
Lallante	Posted - 2005.02.04 14:19:00 - [32] SCAN BOTH REVIEWS IN PLEASE :) Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
Thyro	Posted - 2005.02.04 14:25:00 - [33] Edited by: Thyro on 04/02/2005 14:25:56 Originally by: Lallante SCAN BOTH REVIEWS IN PLEASE :) That is against Copyright
Brede Cleary	Posted - 2005.02.04 14:26:00 - [34] Reviews are opinions. Opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one. Well, except for Amarr peeps. They hatch from slime eggs.
Saine	Posted - 2005.02.04 14:48:00 - [35] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Saine Edited by: Saine on 04/02/2005 12:06:23 Originally by: Ardilien Did you even play Doom 3? The scores this game got are a joke at best! It's the perfect example where scores got bought or at least hype influenced the score badly. Cronicles of Riddik > Doom 3 but it didn't got all the advertisement. With all due respect you're stating an opinion, not a fact, therefore your argument is invalid. In your opinion... Touche To say that one game is better than another game is an opinion. To use that opinion to base an argument on - that advertising buys scores - is therefore invalid. It is also untrue. Advertising revenue funds the operation of a magazine, it does not dictate editorial policy. In the same way magazines market games, but they do not dictate game design. The FACT is that only exclusivity 'buys' coverage and as a consequence the irony is that editorial coverage negates the need for advertising. By way of an example, if Mag A runs an exclusive review of FPS 3, the publisher will probably advertise more in Mag B in order to cover all bases. I'm sure some websites/mags will offer scores as part of a coverage deal, but never in my personal experience have I heard of any instances. Call me naive... I probably am. If you want my OPINION, Doom 3 >> Ridd1ck. But, hey, just my opinion
Weebear	Posted - 2005.02.04 15:16:00 - [36] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Joshua Calvert Check out FHM - it's about 14 pages of advertisements before you actually get to the content of the magazine. Then there's 2-page advert's every 5 or 6 pages of content with the back pages of the magazine filled with adverts about male grooming/fashion. Never noticed the adverts in FHM.... Never noticed the content =) mmmm pictures ----------------------- Honor and Serve!
Erty	Posted - 2005.02.04 17:39:00 - [37] I think some of you people's views on gaming magazines may be a bit off. For example swedish PC Gamer decided not to review HL2 at Valve in the US to be able to have the review in their november magazine or whatever when Valve requested that they should put a HL2 picture on the cover. Instead they waited until the game came out and then reviewed it. Anyway yeah I feel that lots of magazines are hyping EVE _a lot_, especially PC Zone and swedish PC Gamer. And that's good :) This is my signature.
Sokudo	Posted - 2005.02.04 17:49:00 - [38] To be honest, despite the bugs, why shouldn't they? CCP have done a great job on the game. True, there are some REALLY annoying bits in the game (name-sorting hangers and cans being the latest), but it's very playable. Aside from the loss of CCP's net access last night for a brief time and tiscali deciding to do something at their end for 15 minutes the other night, I've had no problems since the latest patch - not one CTD. Before that, I've had regular CTDs. So CCP are listening and they're working to solve the bugs...
Demarcus	Posted - 2005.02.04 18:12:00 - [39] I have been playing for a week. I have encountered no bugs, and only seen the server crash twice both within an hour last night (less than 5 minuted each time). A reviewer wouldn't have spent much more time playing than I and probably wouldn't notice either. And really people this game is FLAWLESS compared to WoW, EQ (EQ Mac would go down unannounced for over 5 hours at a time on peak Saturday hours), EQ2, etc. etc. so keep the whining to a minimum. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
Betamax II	Posted - 2005.02.06 03:58:00 - [40] Originally by: Saine Originally by: Avon Originally by: Saine Edited by: Saine on 04/02/2005 12:06:23 Originally by: Ardilien Did you even play Doom 3? The scores this game got are a joke at best! It's the perfect example where scores got bought or at least hype influenced the score badly. Cronicles of Riddik > Doom 3 but it didn't got all the advertisement. With all due respect you're stating an opinion, not a fact, therefore your argument is invalid. In your opinion... Touche To say that one game is better than another game is an opinion. To use that opinion to base an argument on - that advertising buys scores - is therefore invalid. It is also untrue. Advertising revenue funds the operation of a magazine, it does not dictate editorial policy. In the same way magazines market games, but they do not dictate game design. The FACT is that only exclusivity 'buys' coverage and as a consequence the irony is that editorial coverage negates the need for advertising. By way of an example, if Mag A runs an exclusive review of FPS 3, the publisher will probably advertise more in Mag B in order to cover all bases. I'm sure some websites/mags will offer scores as part of a coverage deal, but never in my personal experience have I heard of any instances. Call me naive... I probably am. If you want my OPINION, Doom 3 >> Ridd1ck. But, hey, just my opinion Stuart Campbell would disagree. He's written for every mag going and as a result of whistleblowing the cash for scores method employed by certain large publishers can now no longer find work in that industry. Or so he says.
Alexis Machine	Posted - 2005.02.06 04:19:00 - [41] I never understood why people even pay attention to reviews. It's like watching the movie critics on the news channels. But, it's good and free (unless it's a marketing stunt, in which case, it's about time) advertizing and people that've never heard of Eve before seeing the review might consider trying it out. And that's always a good thing. If CCP can optimize the servers. And improve the most noticable bugs. ----------------sig---------------------------- Dtai'kai'-dte sa-de nau'gkon dtain'aun bpi-de. if you don't wake up, i'll have to stop kissing you. all that flailing has made you sleepy. you rest while i untie you. stay here until they find you. My hand made mannequin. i won't let them get you. they'll know you're mine by the fingerprints on your throat. isn't she lovely? isn't she wonderful? like the *****s that we are, swatting flies from the wounds we design.
Dawson	Posted - 2005.02.06 05:35:00 - [42] Edited by: Dawson on 06/02/2005 05:34:59 i would of thought it would of done better, considering Ex made me come back 2 the game after over 6 months out. Ambassador Admiral of the Blue Join BSC
Valentine Keen	Posted - 2005.02.06 10:36:00 - [43] Originally by: Alexis Machine I never understood why people even pay attention to reviews. It's like watching the movie critics on the news channels. You can't try out every game and you can't watch every movie, so how else do you filter down the number to pick a select few you do have time for? Yes, a review is just an opinion, but people are guided by opinions all the time. It's one way in which we can attempt to sort the good from the dross, even if the results aren't 100% reliable. If we didn't we'd miss the good stuff from playing/watching all the rubbish.

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