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Hemp Invader
Self Proclaimed Elite Griefers and Gankers
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Posted - 2011.03.21 20:56:00 -
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Why? Because he is spamming jita local saying that he gives a free plex for every voter.
Have i fallen into his scam/exploit? NO
This should be forbidden and a drastic measure should apply. This person with such a low moral standard should not get into the CSM, just sayin'.
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Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos Word of Chaos Undivided
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Posted - 2011.03.21 20:59:00 -
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The Office of Special Projects will be looking into these Allegations and Appropriate Action will be determined and dispensed once the Quarterly Budget Meeting is finalized... next Tuesday.
~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~
Tiericide |

Marija Vanszar
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.21 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Marija Vanszar on 21/03/2011 21:01:29 LOL just logged my JIT alt in:
APPROVED: Boratz > 15 Free 30 day GTC left, convo <url=showinfo:1376//874265450>Darius III</url>
BTW: are Mass emails allowed??
Check this out: Hi,
I'm writing to you because you've participated in significant discussions on the forums, so I'm pretty sure you care about the future of the game.
The CSM elections will end soon, and I'd like to encourage you to take a minute and vote. The bigger the turnout, the more seriously CCP will take the CSM.
I've been a member of the previous 4 CSMs (ie, CSM 2, 3, 4 and 5), as such I've helped carry your message and represented you with CCP. As a player with experience and interest in all areas of the game, from industry to lowsec, wormholes, etc. I've been a constantly unbiased voice in the CSM. Yet I've earned the respect of my fellow CSM members, no matter where they originated from. You can find positive comments and endorsments from known names such as Mynxee, Larkonis Trassler, T'Amber, Vuk Lau, Mazzilliu, Trebor, the Eve Tribune, etc. I have a proven track record of efficiency and consistency.
This time more than ever, the CSM needs players who are not aligned with large groups, but rather it needs people with experience, knowledge, intelligence and the ability to work harmoniously with others, so please vote!
You can learn more about me here: http://www.rooksandkings.com/meissa/
To vote for me, just click on this link: http://bit.ly/fxB5qP
And thank you very much for taking the time to participate.
Sincerely,
Meissa Anunthiel
PS: If you forward this mail to your friends, I would appreciate it. PPS: Should you consider the unsolicited nature of this message offensive, my apologies, there is just too much at stake this time around.
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Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.21 21:01:00 -
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This was already getting dull in C&P, and now you have to drag it here?
INBM&/ORL
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Myra2007
Millstone Industries
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Posted - 2011.03.21 21:02:00 -
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He should be made chairman or whatever they call it. --
Originally by: Professor Slocombe
I will only buy tickets if the prize is your stuff and you leave Eve. Forever. You irritating self obsessed cretin.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.03.21 21:05:00 -
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Scamming to get votes. Sounds like a true eve pilot to me.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.03.21 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: Barakkus on 21/03/2011 21:11:12
Originally by: Marija Vanszar Edited by: Marija Vanszar on 21/03/2011 21:01:29 LOL just logged my JIT alt in:
APPROVED: Boratz > 15 Free 30 day GTC left, convo <url=showinfo:1376//874265450>Darius III</url>
BTW: are Mass emails allowed??
Check this out: Hi,
I'm writing to you because you've participated in significant discussions on the forums, so I'm pretty sure you care about the future of the game.
The CSM elections will end soon, and I'd like to encourage you to take a minute and vote. The bigger the turnout, the more seriously CCP will take the CSM.
I've been a member of the previous 4 CSMs (ie, CSM 2, 3, 4 and 5), as such I've helped carry your message and represented you with CCP. As a player with experience and interest in all areas of the game, from industry to lowsec, wormholes, etc. I've been a constantly unbiased voice in the CSM. Yet I've earned the respect of my fellow CSM members, no matter where they originated from. You can find positive comments and endorsments from known names such as Mynxee, Larkonis Trassler, T'Amber, Vuk Lau, Mazzilliu, Trebor, the Eve Tribune, etc. I have a proven track record of efficiency and consistency.
This time more than ever, the CSM needs players who are not aligned with large groups, but rather it needs people with experience, knowledge, intelligence and the ability to work harmoniously with others, so please vote!
You can learn more about me here: http://www.rooksandkings.com/meissa/
To vote for me, just click on this link: http://bit.ly/fxB5qP
And thank you very much for taking the time to participate.
Sincerely,
Meissa Anunthiel
PS: If you forward this mail to your friends, I would appreciate it. PPS: Should you consider the unsolicited nature of this message offensive, my apologies, there is just too much at stake this time around.
Probably the only person running deserving of getting elected tbh and I don't even know them. I got the same mail and replied with my "Why I'm not voting" spiel, got a well thought out and expressed response, and a good one too. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Eternum Praetorian
True Creation
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Posted - 2011.03.21 21:21:00 -
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Can we list the achievements of past CSM's?
Maybe there is something awesome they have done for the community that I am not aware of? If so perhaps I will start voting. If not, then meh...
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.03.21 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Can we list the achievements of past CSM's?
Maybe there is something awesome they have done for the community that I am not aware of? If so perhaps I will start voting. If not, then meh...
As you wish. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |

Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.03.21 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 21/03/2011 21:50:35
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Can we list the achievements of past CSM's?
Maybe there is something awesome they have done for the community that I am not aware of? If so perhaps I will start voting. If not, then meh...
They will be quick to point out stuff in the previous patch notes but those changes were going to be done regardless if the csm was around or not. That something was done that also happened to be on the ginormous list of things the cms wants done is simply convienient for ccp to have a nice marketing gimmick to point to for interviews and such.
As in: Hey Look Gaiz! We(ccp) did something the csm wanted(even though we(ccp) were going to do it anyways) so they do have a valid role!!! Vote now!! 
Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Can we list the achievements of past CSM's?
Maybe there is something awesome they have done for the community that I am not aware of? If so perhaps I will start voting. If not, then meh...
As you wish.
Example #1: "The skill-training queue was a CSM initiative."
Yes, because no one in the entire time eve has been around has suggested that ccp impliment a skill queue. Ever. 
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2011.03.21 22:00:00 -
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How naive and/or literally (and tragically) ******ed does one have to be to think that a PLEX is worth a CSM vote? The fact that this issue has multiple threads in C&P, and now in General as well means that not only are normal Eve players fecking stupid, but that there is far, far, FAR too much ISK available in game, to the extent that it's apparently believable that a PLEX is a worth a vote in a system where thousands upon thousands of votes get cast.
I hate you all and I hope you hurf in flaming car durf
Yeah well. 
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Hemp Invader
Self Proclaimed Elite Griefers and Gankers
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Posted - 2011.03.21 22:05:00 -
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We know CSM has been a good influence over the game untill now.
The question is, will that good influence still be here with these low level morals that some CSM candidates show? Or will the candidates throw isk around in hopes of a free trip to Iceland?
We should focus towards those 2 questions and answer them as honestly as we can.
In my opinion, this kind of moral should be banned by CCP as it does not support the healthy development of this game.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.03.21 22:10:00 -
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Does it matter? No.
Out of the last (well current really) CSM I hear we are now up to 3 who have quit the game. One of whom apparently said he wasn't interested in playing "Second Life in Space".
CCP do what they want. Their company, their choices.
The CSM is there for CCPs (PR) benefit, not the players playing experience, although the current CSM were bloody-minded enough to say "Enough!" so fair play to them.
Ultimately its a sideshow CCP can shut down as and when they choose.
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.03.21 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: Taedrin on 21/03/2011 22:22:43
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 21/03/2011 21:50:35
Quote: As you wish.
Example #1: "The skill-training queue was a CSM initiative."
Yes, because no one in the entire time eve has been around has suggested that ccp impliment a skill queue. Ever. 
And that somehow marginalizes the other 6 examples... how?
Actually, CCP ORIGINALLY stated that they would NEVER implement a skill queue because of fears that it would enable character farming. When CCP eliminated ghost training, CCP PrismX promised that he would *try* to get a skill queue implemented for us if he was allowed to. However, nothing more was heard on this front. It wasn't until the CSM brought it up that CCP was actually convinced to implement it.
Also, the CSM has given CCP the OPPOSITE of positive PR. They have made the most noise against CCP's intentions to increase profits through microtransactions and also made a huge outcry when they felt that CCP was ignoring them. IIRC, both of these events resulted in CCP issuing an apology of sorts and changing their policies. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.03.21 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Hemp Invader We know CSM has been a good influence over the game untill now.
The question is, will that good influence still be here with these low level morals that some CSM candidates show? Or will the candidates throw isk around in hopes of a free trip to Iceland?
We should focus towards those 2 questions and answer them as honestly as we can.
In my opinion, this kind of moral should be banned by CCP as it does not support the healthy development of this game.
CCP should only ban players for NDA shenanigans...like some of the ones that have gone on in the past...which is likely to happen again if Darius is elected, and probably the only reason he's running. Don't perma ban them though, just a month or so... - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2011.03.21 22:22:00 -
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Oh we vote, right cause all I see at the top of these forums is a stupid banner for 'new forums-coming soon!'.
--WIS/Incarna/Ambulation where microtransactions come to play, and uh bars.-- |

Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.03.21 22:36:00 -
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Edited by: Meissa Anunthiel on 21/03/2011 22:38:13
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu They will be quick to point out stuff in the previous patch notes but those changes were going to be done regardless if the csm was around or not. That something was done that also happened to be on the ginormous list of things the cms wants done is simply convienient for ccp to have a nice marketing gimmick to point to for interviews and such.
As in: Hey Look Gaiz! We(ccp) did something the csm wanted(even though we(ccp) were going to do it anyways) so they do have a valid role!!! Vote now!! 
Let me reuse a bit of text I wrote in reply to one such comment:
Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel
The CSM is not responsible for coming up for new ideas nobody had before, that would be preposterous. What we do is read the forums and talk to people, separate the wheat from the chafe, provide CCP with items and reasons for the inclusion of these items. CCP gets back to us with guesstimates of development time so we can make better requests in terms of cost vs return, just like them. CCP is not a monolithic bloc, there's groups competing for resources, just like many companies. As such the CSM is used by teams internally to lend weight to their request (ie, "see, the CSM requested this too"), which in turn makes the things we request more likely to happen. CCP does read the forum but you know that it's hard to get reasonable arguments out of people, not even taking into account the fact that forums are the voice of the vocal minority.
And plese stop with the "free trip to Iceland", I've been there a bunch of times, I haven't seen anything but the CCP offices. Also, sitting for 8-9 hours of continuous meetings after meeting is gruesome work... Each hour the teams talking to us change, they're fresh, we're not... It's no vacation. That's not even taking into account the time we take during the rest of the time to read forums, answer player queries and requests, spend time in our own CSM meetings.
If I had to charge the time spent on CSM stuff, those would be the most expensive holidays I've ever been on, and not a single geiser or whale picture to take back home for it. ----- Member of CSM 2, 3, 4, 5. Running for CSM 6 http://www.rooksandkings.com/meissa/ Click here to vote for me! |

Eternum Praetorian
True Creation
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Posted - 2011.03.21 23:05:00 -
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Then why do you do it?
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Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.03.21 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Then why do you do it?
Because I don't go to iceland for vacation, I go there to make this game I like better... ----- Member of CSM 2, 3, 4, 5. Running for CSM 6 http://www.rooksandkings.com/meissa/ Click here to vote for me! |

Max Torps
Nomadic Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.03.21 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Then why do you do it?
Because I don't go to iceland for vacation, I go there to make this game I like better...
Best Q&A ever. Starfleet Comms Podcast Your journey through the Eve Universe! |
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Azureite
Amarr Special Forces Operation Detachment Delta The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.03.21 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hemp Invader Have i fallen into his scam/exploit? NO
Suuuuure you haven't 
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Ginger McBallgazer
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Posted - 2011.03.21 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Then why do you do it?
Because I don't go to iceland for vacation, I go there to make this game I like better...
you just got my 10 votes
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Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.03.22 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger McBallgazer
Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Then why do you do it?
Because I don't go to iceland for vacation, I go there to make this game I like better...
you just got my 10 votes
Many thanks, I do need them... ----- Member of CSM 2, 3, 4, 5. Running for CSM 6 http://www.rooksandkings.com/meissa/ Click here to vote for me! |

Gloria Stitz
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Posted - 2011.03.22 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Can we list the achievements of past CSM's?
Maybe there is something awesome they have done for the community that I am not aware of? If so perhaps I will start voting. If not, then meh...
As you wish.
* The skill-training queue was a CSM initiative.
Really? , this idea has been around since launch, csm input =0
* The CSM helped the players give CCP a corporation-wide wake-up call in the summer of 2010, resulting in CCP allocating more resources to supporting and improving old content.
outcome =0
* The recent removal of learning skills was implemented almost exactly as the CSM suggested.
Again, been around since day 1, csm input =0
* CSM and player pressure about performance issues encouraged CCP to create a special group, Team Gridlock, dedicated to the "War on Lag".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA war FOR lag more like
* CSM crowdsourcing and prioritization efforts resulted in many CSM-sponsored game fixes being released in Incursion, and the allocation of Team BFF to the task of "fixing potholes" during the current development cycle.
Too many meaningless buzzwords to make any sense of this ****
* CSM lead the effort to ensure than any micro-transactions added to EVE would be limited to vanity items.
CSM sould have stopped this altogether, micro-transactions = crap this isn't zero, its negative
* CSM encouraged CCP to implement staged release plans, as was used in Incursion and will be used with Incarna.
CCP realised at last that they aren't good at releasing lots of changes at the same time - then said the csm helped them figure this out?
p.s. 'encouraged' ?
csm is like gaddafi's cabinet
utterly pointless
------------- 'Don't try to learn Eve all at once, otherwise your brain will explode' - Albert Einstein ------------ |

Elzon1
Caldari Shadow Boys Corp White Angels.
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Posted - 2011.03.22 01:21:00 -
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Quote: And please stop with the "free trip to Iceland", I've been there a bunch of times, I haven't seen anything but the CCP offices. Also, sitting for 8-9 hours of continuous meetings after meeting is gruesome work... Each hour the teams talking to us change, they're fresh, we're not... It's no vacation. That's not even taking into account the time we take during the rest of the time to read forums, answer player queries and requests, spend time in our own CSM meetings.
If I had to charge the time spent on CSM stuff, those would be the most expensive holidays I've ever been on, and not a single geiser or whale picture to take back home for it.
Indeed, some think of the CSM as something like this: Linkage
Of course some of us actually read the CSM minutes and I wish more did the same. Its not about just throwing your ideas at CCP and ban hammering any bad suggestions CCP gives you. Its really about knowing the mechanics behind EVE as well as knowing what is resonably possible for CCP to do. The more both parties understand each other's limitations the less wasted breath there will be in such discussions. Its when newb CSM members get in and start spewing nonsense ideas/suggestions that things turn sour. There are things sour on CCP's side as well in that developmental resources have already been allocated and it can be hard to get any good suggestion/idea somewhat into the development process.
This is why we need more people like you in the CSM to provide balance and at least some insight into what would actually happen from a players perspective when certain mechanics are put into the game. And I'm sure you push for action against bots and rmt just as much as the next guy. However, if I don't see or hear anything of significant substance about what CCP is doing about such activities during fanfest: I am disappoint
I had voted for you before you sent that mail 
I hope you get reinstated to the CSM, you are needed.
I don't know where, I don't know when... but something awful is going to happen xD |

Eternum Praetorian
True Creation
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Posted - 2011.03.22 02:24:00 -
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Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 22/03/2011 02:26:00 OK Meissa Anunthiel I voted for ya.
Now CSM people, maybe give us some PVP without the blob. Mkay?
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Valari Nala Zena
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.03.22 02:59:00 -
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Since the majority of EVE doesn't vote (especially empire), scamming people into voting is a good way to get a free plane ticket.
Darius will come out on top too, you'll see, i'd bet a plex for it!
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Kilhu Emmek
Minmatar Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.03.22 04:25:00 -
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Meissa knows more about the mechanics of the game than anyone, probably including some of the devs. All you have to do is review Meissa's forum posts to see who you should vote for. --
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Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos Word of Chaos Undivided
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Posted - 2011.03.22 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kilhu Emmek Meissa knows more about the mechanics of the game than anyone, probably including some of the devs. All you have to do is review Meissa's forum posts to see who you should vote for.
I've never heard of her (him?) until this election. /shrug
On topic about the CSM: I've had more development impact alone than all the CSM sessions put together.
~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~
Tiericide |

Hemp Invader
Self Proclaimed Elite Griefers and Gankers
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Posted - 2011.03.22 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Azureite
Originally by: Hemp Invader Have i fallen into his scam/exploit? NO
Suuuuure you haven't 
No, I haven't. I would give you my chat logs but everyone knows they can be faked. In fact I was the one wanting to scam him, to give me the plex first and vote for someone else later :).
In these conditions a vote for CSM is useless and i shall vote for none.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2011.03.22 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Hemp Invader
Originally by: Azureite
Originally by: Hemp Invader Have i fallen into his scam/exploit? NO
Suuuuure you haven't 
No, I haven't. I would give you my chat logs but everyone knows they can be faked. In fact I was the one wanting to scam him, to give me the plex first and vote for someone else later :).
In these conditions a vote for CSM is useless and i shall vote for none.
You shall be the source for lolz, and you sir, truly are.
♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/ |

Hemp Invader
Self Proclaimed Elite Griefers and Gankers
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Posted - 2011.03.22 09:16:00 -
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As long as i'm the n1 source, it's ok with me :)
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leich
Amarr bish bash bosh
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Posted - 2011.03.22 09:49:00 -
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He is rooks and kings.
Therfore should be banned from CSM.
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.03.22 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk Scamming to get votes. Sounds like a true eve pilot to me.
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Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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raknor bile
Gallente Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.03.22 10:06:00 -
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Ok so i voted and he sent me the plex. THIS IS NOT A SCAM.
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Gavjack Bunk
Gallente Genos Occidere Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.03.22 10:44:00 -
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If you're prepared to have your vote bought, you should be equally prepared to have your vote stolen.
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Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.03.22 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: leich He is rooks and kings.
Therfore should be banned from CSM.
I'm curious as to why you think that? We don't smack, we make nice videos, we fight outnumbered 2:1 or 3:1.
If anything, the attitude, knowledge and skill we display should be reason to vote, not the opposite. ----- Member of CSM 2, 3, 4, 5. Running for CSM 6 http://www.rooksandkings.com/meissa/ Click here to vote for me! |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2011.03.22 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Alpheias on 22/03/2011 11:12:48
Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel
Originally by: leich He is rooks and kings.
Therfore should be banned from CSM.
I'm curious as to why you think that? We don't smack, we make nice videos, we fight outnumbered 2:1 or 3:1.
If anything, the attitude, knowledge and skill we display should be reason to vote, not the opposite.
Listen to yourself, your reasoning is the very reasons people shouldn't vote for a bunch of clownshoe like you (and indirectly, r&k) for csm.
Nice videos? Surely you mean, "videos where we chase after the Zen of uptightness, with the narration of David Attenborough-wannabes"?
♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/ |

Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.03.22 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 22/03/2011 11:17:10
Do not vote for CSM candidates that spam local chat in game. That is what I do, block and do not vote for them.
PS: Miilla for CSM
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.03.22 11:32:00 -
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I don't like people buying votes because I have enough of it in RL.
I also don't like those who jump all over high sec spamming to vote them.
Finally I don't like those who mass mail, it's actually forbidden by CCP Terms Of Service.
So, what CSM candidate does not fall in the 3 above and still has a vague idea about how EvE works?
Auditing | Research | 3rd Party | Collateral Holding | EvE RL Charity |
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Eternum Praetorian
True Creation
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Posted - 2011.03.22 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 22/03/2011 11:52:30
Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel
Originally by: leich He is rooks and kings.
Therfore should be banned from CSM.
I'm curious as to why you think that? We don't smack, we make nice videos, we fight outnumbered 2:1 or 3:1.
If anything, the attitude, knowledge and skill we display should be reason to vote, not the opposite.
Actually when I have encountered Rooks and Kings in low sec you guys smacked like little babies. Just saying.
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.03.22 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Val'Dore The Office of Special Projects will be looking into these Allegations and Appropriate Action will be determined and dispensed once the Quarterly Budget Meeting is finalized... next Tuesday.
Shame all the good replies never get credit, well done .
Im not Bismaru, im better! |

Graic Valente
Gallente Valente Galactic Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.03.22 12:41:00 -
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Thanks for letting me know about this candidate and on further investigation his position.
6 votes for Darius III.
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Reonetii
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.03.22 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Marija Vanszar Edited by: Marija Vanszar on 21/03/2011 21:01:29 LOL just logged my JIT alt in:
APPROVED: Boratz > 15 Free 30 day GTC left, convo <url=showinfo:1376//874265450>Darius III</url>
BTW: are Mass emails allowed??
Check this out: Hi,
I'm writing to you because you've participated in significant discussions on the forums, so I'm pretty sure you care about the future of the game.
The CSM elections will end soon, and I'd like to encourage you to take a minute and vote. The bigger the turnout, the more seriously CCP will take the CSM.
I've been a member of the previous 4 CSMs (ie, CSM 2, 3, 4 and 5), as such I've helped carry your message and represented you with CCP. As a player with experience and interest in all areas of the game, from industry to lowsec, wormholes, etc. I've been a constantly unbiased voice in the CSM. Yet I've earned the respect of my fellow CSM members, no matter where they originated from. You can find positive comments and endorsments from known names such as Mynxee, Larkonis Trassler, T'Amber, Vuk Lau, Mazzilliu, Trebor, the Eve Tribune, etc. I have a proven track record of efficiency and consistency.
This time more than ever, the CSM needs players who are not aligned with large groups, but rather it needs people with experience, knowledge, intelligence and the ability to work harmoniously with others, so please vote!
You can learn more about me here: http://www.rooksandkings.com/meissa/
To vote for me, just click on this link: http://bit.ly/fxB5qP
And thank you very much for taking the time to participate.
Sincerely,
Meissa Anunthiel
PS: If you forward this mail to your friends, I would appreciate it. PPS: Should you consider the unsolicited nature of this message offensive, my apologies, there is just too much at stake this time around.
Funny thing is, he posted this email to me too, or should I say to another alt (or main depending on how you view it) that I haven't posted on the forums with for years, so either he reads old old posts or he somehow has some inside way of knowing who my main is, versus who I mostly post with.
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Plasmatiq
Caldari Malicious Destruction
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Posted - 2011.03.22 13:11:00 -
[45]
You pay attention to jita local 
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Valari Nala Zena
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.03.22 13:23:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Terms of Service You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.
Sending excessive e-mails is a ToS violation, petition Rules & Policies -> Harassment.
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bitters much
Nekkid Inc.
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Posted - 2011.03.22 13:32:00 -
[47]
Edited by: bitters much on 22/03/2011 13:32:47
Originally by: raknor bile Ok so i voted and he sent me the plex. THIS IS NOT A SCAM.
He gave me my plex also after I voted for him, NO SCAM
One Darius ( as CSM ) to rule them all.
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Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.03.22 13:58:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Valari Nala Zena
Originally by: Terms of Service You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.
Sending excessive e-mails is a ToS violation, petition Rules & Policies -> Harassment.
Indeed, hence why I cleared the matter with GMs before sending messages.
But really, if you were offended, I'm sorry. It should be obvious the email wants to be informative in nature, not inflamatory. Most of the replies I received were "thank you" or questions. ----- Member of CSM 2, 3, 4, 5. Running for CSM 6 http://www.rooksandkings.com/meissa/ Click here to vote for me! |

Baneken
Gallente The New Knighthood Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.03.22 14:26:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Reonetii
Funny thing is, he posted this email to me too, or should I say to another alt (or main depending on how you view it) that I haven't posted on the forums with for years, so either he reads old old posts or he somehow has some inside way of knowing who my main is, versus who I mostly post with.
Your finished contracts are open for all to see, don't have to be a genius to figure out a main if you have a regular supply traffic via contracts to/from your alt. Also if you bought a character from the bazaar mr. google knows it.
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Darius III
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Posted - 2011.03.22 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I don't like people buying votes because I have enough of it in RL.
I also don't like those who jump all over high sec spamming to vote them.
Finally I don't like those who mass mail, it's actually forbidden by CCP Terms Of Service.
So, what CSM candidate does not fall in the 3 above and still has a vague idea about how EvE works?
Confirming that I am that candidate.
Confirming that I am a suicide ganker with over 1 trillion isk in suicide ganks
Confirming that I NEVER EVER BOUGHT VOTES.
Confirming that I OFFERED TO BUY VOTES
Confirming That Those I offered to give PLEX to For their vote-will NEVER receive them (cold dead hands).
Confirming that CCP likes my style AS I GOT MORE PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE NOT VOTED WITHOUT ME (*SMIRK*) HAVING SCAMMED THEM INTO VOTING.
Sorry for the trillion threads I SWEAR NOT ONE IS ME OR MY PR AGENT(S). Read the Non Banned non locked C+P thread to see how I infuriated so many people and trolled them to a froth.
Literally: ME "Please do not make forum post" Him: "Someone already did make forum post." ME: Please dont make second one-it would crush my campaign." LOLZ 999 Darius threads and not one out of my camp. LOLZ Sorry CCP MODS 
Win lose or draw- I kept my only election promise-"to have fun with the election process."
I do love you guys. PROTIP> OP WAS SCAMMED BY ME OUT OF MY VOTE: looking thru logs. This whole thread is by a liar about FAILED TO "SELL" his vote about a suicide ganker, fraudster, pirate and known troll. HE IS WORSE THAN HAN SOLO FROM STAR TREK
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance

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Posted - 2011.03.22 14:51:00 -
[51]
Moved from General Discussion
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Hemp Invader
Self Proclaimed Elite Griefers and Gankers
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Posted - 2011.03.22 15:23:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Hemp Invader on 22/03/2011 15:23:16
Originally by: Darius III
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha PROTIP> OP WAS SCAMMED BY ME OUT OF MY VOTE: looking thru logs. [/quote
You mean these logs:
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Channel ID: -20142248 Channel Name: Private Chat (alone) Listener: Hemp Invader Session started: 2011.03.21 15:44:11 ---------------------------------------------------------------
[ 2011.03.21 15:44:14 ] Hemp Invader > hai [ 2011.03.21 15:44:18 ] Darius III > o/ [ 2011.03.21 15:44:20 ] Hemp Invader > give me a plex and i'll vote for you [ 2011.03.21 15:44:32 ] Darius III > http://www.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=405 vote here, paste the message you get afetr ballot is cast [ 2011.03.21 15:44:39 ] Darius III > I will give you plex [ 2011.03.21 15:46:49 ] Hemp Invader > plex first and vote after :P [ 2011.03.21 15:47:07 ] Darius III > good day then sir o/ [ 2011.03.21 15:47:22 ] Hemp Invader > but if you give plex now [ 2011.03.21 15:47:29 ] Hemp Invader > i vote with 2nd account [ 2011.03.21 15:47:53 ] Darius III > after IU get the text I give the plex nothing more nothing less [ 2011.03.21 15:48:26 ] Hemp Invader > well good day to you scamming sir [ 2011.03.21 15:48:33 ] Hemp Invader > hope you lose
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Awesome Possum
Original Sin. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
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Posted - 2011.03.22 15:59:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Valari Nala Zena
Originally by: Terms of Service You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.
Sending excessive e-mails is a ToS violation, petition Rules & Policies -> Harassment.
excessive evemails means a lot of mails to YOU, not one mail to a bunch of people... you ****ing moron. ♥
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Corporal Punishment08
NosWaffle Nostradamus Effect
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Posted - 2011.03.22 16:26:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk Scamming to get votes. Sounds like a true eve pilot to me.
Epic! _____________________________________ Real men corpse tank. |

Chris Bartlett
Caldari C.R.M Productions BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.03.22 18:37:00 -
[55]
Confirming that Darius III gives PLEX for votes. He also gives a wicked reach-around.
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Valari Nala Zena
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.03.22 20:52:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Valari Nala Zena on 22/03/2011 20:52:42
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Valari Nala Zena
Originally by: Terms of Service You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.
Sending excessive e-mails is a ToS violation, petition Rules & Policies -> Harassment.
excessive evemails means a lot of mails to YOU, not one mail to a bunch of people... you ****ing moron.
So by your logic, if you send 50k mails one to each player, it wouldn't be excessive? HAHAHAH!
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Issler Dainze
Minmatar Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2011.03.22 20:58:00 -
[57]
I know I would never do anything similar while running for a CSM seat, but I have to say spamming and scamming are the sort of shenanigans I've come to expect in Eve.
I can only hope it really didn't net any votes, but there are those that play Eve assuming "you'll never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the average Eve player".... ;-)
Issler Dainze
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Darius III
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Posted - 2011.03.22 21:20:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Issler Dainze I know I would never do anything similar while running for a CSM seat, but I have to say spamming and scamming are the sort of shenanigans I've come to expect in Eve.
I can only hope it really didn't net any votes, but there are those that play Eve assuming "you'll never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the average Eve player".... ;-)
Issler Dainze
I stole HUNDREDS OF VOTES by scamming scrubs. And Hundreds more voted for me becasue they approved. 
Also: The Game o/
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FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.22 22:54:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Darius III
Confirming that I NEVER EVER BOUGHT VOTES.
Guys, this is totally a lie. I voted for Darius and he sent a PLEX to each of my accounts that I voted with. He's just trying to maintain his scammer-cred, but tell your friends that you will definitely get a PLEX for each vote you give to Darius. ------------------------------------------------
Hohohoho, Mister Finn, you're going to be Mister Finnagain! |

Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.03.23 00:51:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Valari Nala Zena So by your logic, if you send 50k mails one to each player, it wouldn't be excessive? HAHAHAH!
The TOS refers to the player. Singular. By their terms, fifty thousand mails to one player is certainly excessive, but one mail to one player? Hardly. The number of players receiving that one mail is irrelevant.
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DoPlanet
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Posted - 2011.03.23 01:44:00 -
[61]
Isnt this CSM thing a scam to make us hope issues listed "match questions" ( http://match.eve-csm.com/step_2.php ) will actually be solved properly ? If a candidate gains scammed votes, those votes are not based on the candidate actual agenda on issue solving. If CCP turns a blind eye to vote scamming, i draw the logical conclusion that it doesnt give a flying beep about http://match.eve-csm.com/step_2.php and the page its better off deleted, so we dont waste anymore time deciding a REAL vote, the best scammer will win anyway...
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Awesome Possum
Original Sin. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
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Posted - 2011.03.23 02:04:00 -
[62]
Originally by: DoPlanet so we dont waste anymore time deciding a REAL vote, the best scammer will win anyway...
Welcome to politics.
Btw, those issues you listed.. that list was created by a private individual, and is on a private website. Not CCP endorsed. ♥
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DoPlanet
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Posted - 2011.03.23 02:18:00 -
[63]
Edited by: DoPlanet on 23/03/2011 02:21:34 Facebook, Eve Online, March 9 : "Want to ride the wave of internet democracy, but don't have time to wax your board? http://match.eve-csm.com/ provides a helpful shortcut for those without time/inclination to read forums, listen to podcasts or visit CSM candidate sites"
So, i should just ignore Eve Online on Facebook ? :) Anyway the main ideea still stands... The reasons for casting the votes should matter to CCP
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Naecuss
Minmatar Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.03.23 03:34:00 -
[64]
I got my plex too, top man. "Riding high on Lucifer's Spokes just keep on rolling n rolling." |

Josef Huffenpuff
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.23 03:42:00 -
[65]
Its irrelevant whether its a scam or not. Offering an in-game item (ie a PLEX) for an out of game reward or service (ie your vote) is a violation of the Rules Of Conduct and the EULA. This makes his candidacy invalid, and exposes him to the ban hammer ...
Good Luck mate
Quote: 6 You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of anything in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items
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Awesome Possum
Original Sin. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
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Posted - 2011.03.23 04:19:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Josef Huffenpuff Its irrelevant whether its a scam or not. Offering an in-game item (ie a PLEX) for an out of game reward or service (ie your vote) is a violation of the Rules Of Conduct and the EULA. This makes his candidacy invalid, and exposes him to the ban hammer ...
Good Luck mate
Quote: 6 You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of anything in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items
that's a crap interpretation, and services such as killboards and eoh poker point to it being worth nothing more than crap. ♥
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Darius III
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Posted - 2011.03.23 05:00:00 -
[67]
6 You may not market, sell, advertise, promote, solicit or otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of anything in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.
otherwise arrange for the exchange or transfer of anything in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.
anything in the game or other game services unless it is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.
is for in-game sales of in-game services or items.
in-game services or items.
in-game
Election is in game, thus your opinion is null.
I am just trying to be like HAN SOLO from STAR TREK, a vagabond and smuggler.
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NeoShocker
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.03.23 06:41:00 -
[68]
"Han Solo from Star Trek" ... ****ing LOL, even on comms, its still funny Darius, <3 u.
At least the votes are put to use rather than unused. Better results for CCP graphical charts yes? :O ----------------------------------- Peace through power! |

Hemp Invader
Self Proclaimed Elite Griefers and Gankers
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Posted - 2011.03.23 09:35:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Hemp Invader on 23/03/2011 09:38:14
Originally by: Darius III HAN SOLO from STAR TREK
Can someone please crank up the originality in this thread, this guy has used the same line twice in this thread alone and god knows how many times on teamspeak.
Also, back to the point, you sir want to gain an out of game service by advertising an in game service (trip to iceland vs plex). Tell me how you're any different from the people that sell isk on e-bay or on isk-bank.ru.
And for god's sake don't fall into the NC philosophy and blob us to death with the same ending line Mr. HAN SOLO.
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DoPlanet
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Posted - 2011.03.23 12:15:00 -
[70]
Originally by: NeoShocker At least the votes are put to use rather than unused. Better results for CCP graphical charts yes? :O
Better to have unused votes than votes given away for other reasons than the candidate's agenda. Once again CCP shows me how full of crap they are.
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Khory Thunderstar
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:23:00 -
[71]
Welcome to EVE
Scamming is part of the game
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DoPlanet
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Posted - 2011.03.23 14:41:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Khory Thunderstar
Scamming is part of the game
Scaming is part of the game and i do like it. However, I wasnt aware that scaming is part of the way CCP handles gameplay changes/issue fixing. Allowing scamed votes = Dont giving a beep about real players decisions.
On PLEX for Good: Japan, CCP says: CCP regards any scamming attempts surrounding this effort to be morally reprehensible and they will be met with swiftest action So, it is possible, even though scaming is, like you say, "part of the game". So, CCP doesnt think that stealing CSM votes would be "morally reprehensible". So, why i shouldnt say "Bu||sh|T" when i read things like: "EVEæs most valuable person, the player." in the devblogs ? I only ask to treat scaming as part of the game. You scam elections, you're caught and dont denie it? Good, you're out. Sounds like a pretty good game concept to me.
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NeoShocker
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.03.23 17:59:00 -
[73]
Edited by: NeoShocker on 23/03/2011 18:04:27 DoPlanet, perhaps I can assure you. Knowing darius, I know he will take CSM position seriously. I agree what scamming to get votes is very questionable, at best, lame and CCP should respond on this issue since a CSM represents the eve players. And really, I don't like cheaters either.
Then again, to YOU, generally a CSM is "honest", "kind natured", and take things "seriously". Do Darius fit those description if he's elected CSM? To my opinion, yes, along that he may (or maybe will ...) troll, so maybe not so serious. :O Scamming, suicide ganking, is just a hobby thing for him, but he's not a liar. If he is, I wouldn't respect him as much as I respect SCOOTER1.
Sure, he finds loopholes within CCP policy/rules. But he doesn't hides them like those guys in mag wormhole and exploiting with the negative bonus for gunnery systems or PL using the delayed local exploit. He ask GMs if its allowable or not to be sure. Station contract scamming is one of them. If that doesn't make him honest, I don't know what.
TBH, I don't know when exactly he started trolling/scamming and stuffs, but I noticed he's doing that since half a year ago. An evolved pokemon Darius III since taking over Geminate. He was only the nice and fun guy to hang out with to just suicide gank people. Probably he's taking the fun factor to another level. ----------------------------------- Peace through power! |

Arthur Miller
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.03.23 22:38:00 -
[74]
Almost thought Darius got booted from CSM
GGRRRR TROLLLAGE 
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.03.24 03:51:00 -
[75]
Ankhsemptampkah spammed mission hubs saying to vote for her to keep level 4s in empire. Darius is doing more or less the same thing. ---
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amarri victari
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Posted - 2011.03.24 12:05:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Suitonia Ankhsemptampkah spammed mission hubs saying to vote for her to keep level 4s in empire. Darius is doing more or less the same thing.
sootnia is a witch !
burn her!
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.03.24 12:11:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 24/03/2011 12:11:35
Originally by: Darius III
Election is in game, thus your opinion is null.
While it is understandable you would want a defence, CCP has never given any indication that the CSM was "in game". In fact, the demand that participants have to provide their real name, sign an agreement that effects the player and not the avatar (see Larkonis gate) and pretty much all communication from CCP strongly indicates that the CSM has nothing to do with "in game" at all.
Of course, if you or anybody else are breaking the EULA is up to CCP to decide.
-- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Lorebook - Mysteries of W-space |

krytan
Amarr Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.03.24 23:16:00 -
[78]
D3 should be king of the CSM as he can dibble a basketball with either hand...cos he's amphibious!
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The Jackhammer
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.03.26 00:37:00 -
[79]
I got my PLEX ... AND I didn't wind up voting for Darius III ... REVERSE Scam 
Mmmmm,
The Jackhammer
Banners and Signatures by: Kalen Vox
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Darius III
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Posted - 2011.03.26 18:00:00 -
[80]
Thanks again. It was YOUR VOTE AND VOTES LIKE YOURS that put me over the top. You been had.
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Doddy
Excidium.
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Posted - 2011.03.26 20:18:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Baneken
Originally by: Reonetii
Funny thing is, he posted this email to me too, or should I say to another alt (or main depending on how you view it) that I haven't posted on the forums with for years, so either he reads old old posts or he somehow has some inside way of knowing who my main is, versus who I mostly post with.
Your finished contracts are open for all to see, don't have to be a genius to figure out a main if you have a regular supply traffic via contracts to/from your alt.
Private contracts?
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DoPlanet
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Posted - 2011.03.29 00:44:00 -
[82]
Originally by: NeoShocker Edited by: NeoShocker on 23/03/2011 18:04:27 DoPlanet, perhaps I can assure you. Knowing darius, I know he will take CSM position seriously. I agree what scamming to get votes is very questionable, at best, lame and CCP should respond on this issue since a CSM represents the eve players. And really, I don't like cheaters either.
Then again, to YOU, generally a CSM is "honest", "kind natured", and take things "seriously". Do Darius fit those description if he's elected CSM? To my opinion, yes, along that he may (or maybe will ...) troll, so maybe not so serious. :O Scamming, suicide ganking, is just a hobby thing for him, but he's not a liar. If he is, I wouldn't respect him as much as I respect SCOOTER1.
Sure, he finds loopholes within CCP policy/rules. But he doesn't hides them like those guys in mag wormhole and exploiting with the negative bonus for gunnery systems or PL using the delayed local exploit. He ask GMs if its allowable or not to be sure. Station contract scamming is one of them. If that doesn't make him honest, I don't know what.
TBH, I don't know when exactly he started trolling/scamming and stuffs, but I noticed he's doing that since half a year ago. An evolved pokemon Darius III since taking over Geminate. He was only the nice and fun guy to hang out with to just suicide gank people. Probably he's taking the fun factor to another level.
You dont get it :) My problem is with CCP for allowing it, not with Darius, good for him for thinking of this scam AND getting away with it. Darius may or may not take the CSM position seriously, with or without assurances, i dont care. Allowing scammed votes is a big sign of "we dont care" from CCP's part. I already explained why.
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Chib
Drunken Wookies BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.03.29 07:46:00 -
[83]
how many politicians deliver false promises in order to be elected? all of them!
just politics to me ---------------------------------------------
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Darius III
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Posted - 2011.03.30 12:35:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Chib how many politicians deliver false promises in order to be elected? all of them!
just politics to me
Just to clarify things here a bit. I REALLY *WILL* give a PLEX to any of my supporters. Just meet me in an Orca at the Static complex in Oijanen. I will be ejecting TWO PLEX per Orca that shows up today. Just convo Darius III when you are in Airaken and ready. I will get there within minutes to deliver the goods as promised. This is a GENUINE OFFER not a scam. I give you my solemn word as CSM Elect (alternate5). Be there to get your TWO FREE PLEX TODAY!
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