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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.03.22 23:26:00 -
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I would also like to order 1,000 rigged drakes. Considering that I am buying in bulk, you'll give me a 15% discount on jita price, right?
I look forward to the contract.
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Malcorian Vandsteidt
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Posted - 2011.03.22 23:32:00 -
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Also since this Forum is apparently full of trolls interested in drama More then actual Marketing Individuals, (Unless it's chribba, Grendal or another of that group making the post)
I'll be heading my efforts more in game then on here. Because obviously this isn't the Professional arena I had once thought it to be.
If your reading this and a re a mature marketer and would like to discuss civilized business, Join me in my Corps Public channel. I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have or talk with you about pretty much anything.
The funny thing about this forums is, You all have no trouble giving money to the real scammers, you basically just hand it over to them. Whereas you tear apart the people actually trying to run a business.
I find this in particular.. Hilarious. As I am sure If I was a scammer you'd already given me the 25 Bil without blinking.
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Malcorian Vandsteidt
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Posted - 2011.03.22 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: Malcorian Vandsteidt on 22/03/2011 23:34:30
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.03.22 23:35:00 -
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ITT: Butthurt Naive 15 year old nerd tries to get 25b for drake/isotope selling business
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.03.22 23:36:00 -
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Can I still get those drakes?
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Atima
Minmatar House of Marbles
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Posted - 2011.03.22 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Malcorian Vandsteidt Also since this Forum is apparently full of trolls interested in drama More then actual Marketing Individuals, (Unless it's chribba, Grendal or another of that group making the post)
I'll be heading my efforts more in game then on here. Because obviously this isn't the Professional arena I had once thought it to be.
If your reading this and a re a mature marketer and would like to discuss civilized business, Join me in my Corps Public channel. I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have or talk with you about pretty much anything.
The funny thing about this forums is, You all have no trouble giving money to the real scammers, you basically just hand it over to them. Whereas you tear apart the people actually trying to run a business.
I find this in particular.. Hilarious. As I am sure If I was a scammer you'd already given me the 25 Bil without blinking.
I find your logic flawless. Its a shame you don't seem to be as honest as Shar Tegral. You should have given back that T2 BPO you borrowed 3 years ago and poasted about it.
If this was the case I would happily pledge everything I own to this investment; 400 ( Four Hundred ) Interstellar Kredits
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2011.03.22 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Malcorian Vandsteidt Edited by: Malcorian Vandsteidt on 22/03/2011 21:29:18
Originally by: Loraine Gess
Originally by: Malcorian Vandsteidt Edited by: Malcorian Vandsteidt on 22/03/2011 21:17:39
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Well mr super spy "I'll get the dirt on you!" (hilarious) it seems you really are just an idiot afterall. I can't believe the effort you put into these posts, considering you're not going to get a single isk for it all. Reputation grind? 25billion isk (which you're "not asking for" it's really you doing US a favour!) Awesome.
So I used to be a spy, Gather intelligence and do all sorts of other things, Lots of people do, it's a good living, I ran an industrial corp for a year or so also, and was a director in several alliances. I don't see what any of this has to do with my Current Forte in marketing.
I have never scammed anyone. I have never stolen Corporate Assets, or Alliance Assets.
That being the case I can not see any reason for your posts other then to "attempt" to hinder my success in the future with slander. Which you will Fail at because my success is based on my own actions, not on others investments. Of course, if your a competitor I understand completely, It's a a bit low to post on an IPO Business thread however.
Ego blimp spotted! Hint bro: You ain't getting 25 billion based on your past record. You won't even get 1 billion.
Also, anybody mention that the out if he goes AFK the shareholders are supposed to elect a new CEO, but they won't total even 5% of the shares?
What it says in laymen's terms is that a vice CEO will be appointed to the corp as soon as I can find one, so that in the case of my AFK absence the corporation will not fail.
The 5% of corporate worth is if I ever decide to step down from CEO and appoint a new one. And this has nothing to do with shareholders, it's simply my golden parachute retirement fund and applies to the corp whether it has investors or not.
You apparently didn't read the part about me giving all of my personal assets to the corporation to help start the venture.
So. You get 5% of the investors isk if/when you decide to step down?
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I would like to take this opportunity to announce a fresh new IPO of a brand new corporation:
Cheyenne Social Club.
I have yet to incorporate it but that will happen shortly after you good folks cough up some isk.
My business plan is mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble and that should be more than sufficient for this purpose. I propose 1,000,000,000 shares for 1 million isk each which should be more than sufficient for my purposes.
Oh and if I ever decide to step down I get 5% right off the top for my "retirement".
Thank you.
Oh God thank you. Did I say thank you? I'm sure I remembered to thank each and every one of you that is even now sending me isk.
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Naya Sky
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Posted - 2011.03.22 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Atima Its a shame you don't seem to be as honest as Shar Tegral.
How could you possibly expect someone to be as honest as Shar Tegral. What were you thinking??
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Malcorian Vandsteidt
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Posted - 2011.03.23 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: Malcorian Vandsteidt on 23/03/2011 00:21:15
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So. You get 5% of the investors isk if/when you decide to step down?
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I would like to take this opportunity to announce a fresh new IPO of a brand new corporation:
Cheyenne Social Club.
I have yet to incorporate it but that will happen shortly after you good folks cough up some isk.
My business plan is mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble and that should be more than sufficient for this purpose. I propose 1,000,000,000 shares for 1 million isk each which should be more than sufficient for my purposes.
Oh and if I ever decide to step down I get 5% right off the top for my "retirement".
Thank you.
Oh God thank you. Did I say thank you? I'm sure I remembered to thank each and every one of you that is even now sending me isk.
No I do not take 5% of the investors isk. I take 5% of the corporations worth. And this happens whether or not the corp has ANY investors at that point in time.
I mean seriously no offense but can you all really not ****ing read? Half of the garbage you all are posting on this thread has absolutely NOTHING to do with anything I've said here. It's you all are a bunch of preschoolers who do not understand basic english and have a comprehension level of 2.
I mean really, And you Zheta.. I mean you suprise me, i thought you were above all of this garbage. I guess I was wrong.
I honestly do not believe any of you even read the IPO, even half way through. Which is really sad honestly because there ar a lot of good ideas in it.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.23 00:25:00 -
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Step away from the hubris and put down the bond value
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.03.23 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Malcorian Vandsteidt
No I do not take 5% of the investors isk. I take 5% of the corporations worth. And this happens whether or not the corp has ANY investors at that point in time.
I mean seriously no offense but can you all really not ****ing read? Half of the garbage you all are posting on this thread has absolutely NOTHING to do with anything I've said here. It's you all are a bunch of preschoolers who do not understand basic english and have a comprehension level of 2.
I mean really, And you Zheta.. I mean you suprise me, i thought you were above all of this garbage. I guess I was wrong.
what did you honestly expect? did you really think you were going to get investors for 25b?
many have pointed out to you why your IPO is full of obvious holes. If you are unsure of such simple things such as "drakes" the ordinary investor would assume your going to buy 25b worth of magic isotope beams & climb the beanstalk
normally were not here to wipe your ass when you make a boo boo, in this case ill make an exception coz i can see sh** running down your leg.
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2011.03.23 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Malcorian Vandsteidt
No I do not take 5% of the investors isk. I take 5% of the corporations worth. And this happens whether or not the corp has ANY investors at that point in time.
.. Which would be 5% of investor's isk also you plonker.
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Naya Sky
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Posted - 2011.03.23 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Malcorian Vandsteidt 1. FICA is an Investment Corp which deals Primarily in POS fuels, As well as Ships, Fittings, Loans, and Private to Corporate Investments.
Your one man corporation has really reached an amazing success since it's foundation (2011.03.15).
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Galec
Gallente Freight Hauling Corp
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Posted - 2011.03.23 00:39:00 -
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Edited by: Galec on 23/03/2011 00:41:03 I have a huge eve related secret which nobody knows about (as far as I am aware at least, and also not neccesarily a 'bad' secret, but a substantial one none-the-less).
Tell everyone my secret and I will invest 5 Billion into your enterprise.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.03.23 00:43:00 -
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Edited by: Tutskii on 23/03/2011 00:44:20 You can never have enough threads for an idea this good.
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Malcorian Vandsteidt
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Posted - 2011.03.23 00:47:00 -
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Edited by: Malcorian Vandsteidt on 23/03/2011 00:53:57 Edited by: Malcorian Vandsteidt on 23/03/2011 00:51:52 Edited by: Malcorian Vandsteidt on 23/03/2011 00:51:24 Edited by: Malcorian Vandsteidt on 23/03/2011 00:48:19
Originally by: Naya Sky
Originally by: Malcorian Vandsteidt 1. FICA is an Investment Corp which deals Primarily in POS fuels, As well as Ships, Fittings, Loans, and Private to Corporate Investments.
Your one man corporation has really reached an amazing success since it's foundation (2011.03.15).
I founded the corporation for this "Public" Venture. My Main however is a 2006 Character. And this one is a 2008 Character.
The age of my Corp is not relevant to the age of my Characters. So it's a 1 man operation. So is Misyify Tradeing, and I could name several others on this thread who have one man corps for investing. It is not a new thing really. What makes their ideas and efforts better then my own? Nothing. They've simply been around longer and done more Frorum waring then me. That's it.
If it's the amount value of the shares I am selling, Then don't buy all 25k.
You all are claiming I am a scam or do not know what I am doing, or a ****** or any number of other things but NONE of you are actually will to test it. Because if you did, And you turned out to be wrong, you'd look like a fool, and your credibility would be shot. (Which you will, because you are wrong).
To be honest even if I was planning on any type of scam, at this point I would be more interested in see you trolls choke on your own words then scamming you. Because the destruction of your characters reputation is now worth Far far more to me then a measly 25 Billion.
So yes this corp will succeed, and this Corp will gain Notoriety.
Go ahead buy my shares if you want to put your knowledge and money where your mouth is, You can talk all you want, but it's your actions that gain you notoriety. So put your ISK where your mouth is, and well see who looks like an ass and a Fool at the end of the year.
Flame all you want, this is my last post on this thread. I have work to do.
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2011.03.23 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Malcorian Vandsteidt herpderp
Yeah, because the sensible thing for someone who thinks you're a scammer to do would be to give you isk to prove it .. lol.
Train wreck gets better and better. Go on mr super spy, notoriety is yours for the taking? :D
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Sue Ayano
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Posted - 2011.03.23 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Caldariftw123
Originally by: Malcorian Vandsteidt herpderp
Yeah, because the sensible thing for someone who thinks you're a scammer to do would be to give you isk to prove it .. lol.
Train wreck gets better and better. Go on mr super spy, notoriety is yours for the taking? :D
Don't talk to him in that tone!! He will find some dirt on you and destroy you!
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.03.23 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Malcorian Vandsteidt Hey ***gots, My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, ******ed, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world.
Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any *****? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.
Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; **** was SO cash). You are all ***gots who should just kill yourselves.
Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It's me and my *****
obamaposteditagain.jpg
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2011.03.23 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Galec Edited by: Galec on 23/03/2011 00:41:03 I have a huge eve related secret which nobody knows about (as far as I am aware at least, and also not neccesarily a 'bad' secret, but a substantial one none-the-less).
Tell everyone my secret and I will invest 5 Billion into your enterprise.
You're Lady Spank's alt!
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Comor Dunathis
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.03.24 09:15:00 -
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So you're a corp spy, but you never scammed anyone? Didn't you naturally scam them into trusting you, in order to spy on them?
Wonder if this Ponzi scheme corp will buy drakes in Jita for 27m instead of the lowest price of 30m... Sounds like another scam to me
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Galec
Gallente Freight Hauling Corp
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Posted - 2011.03.24 17:16:00 -
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Edited by: Galec on 24/03/2011 17:18:05 I do believe tht he isn't trying to decieve anyone though.
He spelled it out clearly in his proposal and confirmed it.
He's only releasing 2.5% of the total shares of his corp which will initially be valued at 25B total. He makes it clear that should he decide to up and quit at any time, that he'll be entitled to 5% of the corp's TOTAL worth, so twice what the initial will be raising. So in reality, when he quits a day after fundraising closes, he not only takes your money, but the other private investors (himself) will end up owing him an additional 25B. Obviously in the event that he quits, it will indeed be him that shoulders that greatest amount of personal debt (payable to himself).
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Roelof Kremer
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Posted - 2011.03.24 19:52:00 -
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hi Malcorian
this one is not going well.
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Roelof Kremer
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Posted - 2011.03.24 20:05:00 -
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Edited by: Roelof Kremer on 24/03/2011 20:06:05 well.
lets say malcorian get's the 25 bill investment.
the corp will hold the 25 bill + 1.5 bill from his own assits. thats 26.5 bill $$. 5% of the 26.5 bill = 1.325 bill. When he retire he gets 1.325bill. So he will lose 0.175 bill. at the end.
A private invester will take over the corp. And I know Malcorian hase privite investors.
NP
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LT1
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Posted - 2011.03.24 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Malcorian Vandsteidt
1. This could be a scam
Gosh, that's good to know.
A risk at 100% probability is a fact - not a risk :)
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Galec
Gallente Freight Hauling Corp
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Posted - 2011.03.24 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Roelof Kremer Edited by: Roelof Kremer on 24/03/2011 20:06:05 well.
lets say malcorian get's the 25 bill investment.
the corp will hold the 25 bill + 1.5 bill from his own assits. thats 26.5 bill $$. 5% of the 26.5 bill = 1.325 bill. When he retire he gets 1.325bill. So he will lose 0.175 bill. at the end.
A private invester will take over the corp. And I know Malcorian hase privite investors.
NP
RK
It clearly states that the corp, as a whole, is comprised of 1,000,000 shares. He's valuing the shares for the IPO at 1,000,000 ISK per and releasing 25,000 to the 'public'. This implies a 1,000,000 ISK/per value on the remaining 975,000 shares which he will hold. He stated clearly that he would take 5% of the TOTAL value of the corporation upon 'quiting'.
Case closed.
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.03.24 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Galec
It clearly states that the corp, as a whole, is comprised of 1,000,000 shares. He's valuing the shares for the IPO at 1,000,000 ISK per and releasing 25,000 to the 'public'. This implies a 1,000,000 ISK/per value on the remaining 975,000 shares which he will hold. He stated clearly that he would take 5% of the TOTAL value of the corporation upon 'quiting'.
Case closed.
cool, hey im in the market for some new land, can you come do some conveyancing work for me? i badly need a lawyer.
btw: OP abandoned this thread 2 days ago, wtf are you nerds doing in here arguing about shares? lmao
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Malcorian Vandsteidt
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Posted - 2011.03.25 08:39:00 -
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Edited by: Malcorian Vandsteidt on 25/03/2011 08:40:31
Originally by: Roelof Kremer
hi Malcorian
this one is not going well.
No, Not really worried about it.
I'll try again in a few months when I have a "Large" list of clients that can vouch for me. hell by then though I wont even need to post on here I'll just email all the clients.
Either way everyone makes money.
To the guys arguing about my shares.
* I don't keep any shares. Nor do I own any. * Corp total worth is Corp liquid Assets + Physical Assets. If and when I retire the corp this is what I take 5% of. I gave everything I owned to the corp. I am not going to leave it and have 0 assets and 0 ISK to show for my work and have to start off like a noob to regain wealth. I think 5% is a fair amount. But then I don't plan on leaving it either, but your supposed to include things like that in a proper IPO statement.
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Galec
Gallente Freight Hauling Corp
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Posted - 2011.03.25 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Malcorian Vandsteidt Edited by: Malcorian Vandsteidt on 25/03/2011 08:40:31
Originally by: Roelof Kremer
hi Malcorian
this one is not going well.
No, Not really worried about it.
I'll try again in a few months when I have a "Large" list of clients that can vouch for me. hell by then though I wont even need to post on here I'll just email all the clients.
Either way everyone makes money.
To the guys arguing about my shares.
* I don't keep any shares. Nor do I own any. * Corp total worth is Corp liquid Assets + Physical Assets. If and when I retire the corp this is what I take 5% of. I gave everything I owned to the corp. I am not going to leave it and have 0 assets and 0 ISK to show for my work and have to start off like a noob to regain wealth. I think 5% is a fair amount. But then I don't plan on leaving it either, but your supposed to include things like that in a proper IPO statement.
So what's the purpose of the 975,000 devalued shares? To dilute the dividend?
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Galec
Gallente Freight Hauling Corp
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Posted - 2011.03.25 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Misty McGinnity
Originally by: Galec
It clearly states that the corp, as a whole, is comprised of 1,000,000 shares. He's valuing the shares for the IPO at 1,000,000 ISK per and releasing 25,000 to the 'public'. This implies a 1,000,000 ISK/per value on the remaining 975,000 shares which he will hold. He stated clearly that he would take 5% of the TOTAL value of the corporation upon 'quiting'.
Case closed.
cool, hey im in the market for some new land, can you come do some conveyancing work for me? i badly need a lawyer.
btw: OP abandoned this thread 2 days ago, wtf are you nerds doing in here arguing about shares? lmao
I'm not licensed to work in Internet Spaceship Land, look up First Eve Title Co.
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